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BONNIE PINK - Ring A Bell (English Version)

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Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on November-17-10 at 9:41:59 PM

Artist: Bonnie Pink
Title: Ring A Bell (English Version)
Source: Tales of Vesperia
Tags: TOV Sallad4ever Dangaard
BPM: 94
Filesize: 21817kb
Play Time: 02:03
Difficulties Available:
  1. Dan's Hard (4.75 stars, 318 notes)
  2. Easy (1.88 stars, 119 notes)
  3. Hard (4.4 stars, 202 notes)
  4. Sallad's Normal (3.35 stars, 200 notes)
  5. Yunacat's Taiko (4.88 stars, 503 notes)
Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version)
Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Tales Of Vesperia FTW!

I had the Vesperia blues (I never finished the game and never I could get my hands on a copy ;W;)

I thank Sallad4ever and Dangaard and Yunacat for their diffs.
Haneii
♫ Why were we there back to back? Why were we there face to face? I must be the light when you're in the dark... ♪

~General~
00:48:624 – set preview point here?
Is the artist’s name supposed to be in caps lock?

~easy~
:O you didn’t map the beginning of the 2nd chorus?!!!!!! Doushite????
I can’t hear the hitsounds at all ;_;

~Hard~
01:26:922 (1) – make this spinner end at 01:29:156?
Once again I can’t hear any of the hitsounds (How cruel of you :P)
00:28:198 till the end of map - you stop using curves and arches... it made me :(

Since this is a wip, I shall be back for a remod once it goes into pending ;)

~Twinkle twinkle little star~
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun

Haneii wrote:

♫ Why were we there back to back? Why were we there face to face? I must be the light when you're in the dark... ♪

~General~
00:48:624 – set preview point here? Fixed
Is the artist’s name supposed to be in caps lock? Thanks, Fixed

~easy~
:O you didn’t map the beginning of the 2nd chorus?!!!!!! Doushite???? Maped lol
I can’t hear the hitsounds at all ;_; One tick up

~Hard~
01:26:922 (1) – make this spinner end at 01:29:156? Ok
Once again I can’t hear any of the hitsounds (How cruel of you :P) lol Fixed
00:28:198 till the end of map - you stop using curves and arches... it made me :( Added a few

Since this is a wip, I shall be back for a remod once it goes into pending ;) Thanks :)

~Twinkle twinkle little star~
Thanks Haneii
Sallad4ever
Here's my diff
Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Death_the_kid) [Sallad's Normal].osu
This song is cool in DT
Try playing this map with Double Time, it's fun ;)

Hope you like it :)
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Love it~
Sallad4ever
Hah!!
I knew it, the osb appears again xD

Please do the following
- open osb file
- copy all the lines below //Storyboard Sound Samples
- open Sallad's Normal in notepad
- paste the lines below //Storyboard Sound Samples
- save, remove osb file and full-submit

Also I notice the skin is very similar with the skin in ztrot's BACK-ON - Fly Away map, if you take it from there you should ask and credit him.
There will be trouble if you don't :o
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun

Sallad4ever wrote:

Hah!!
I knew it, the osb appears again xD. I didn't delete it the first time, I was in a rush xD

Please do the following
- open osb file
- copy all the lines below //Storyboard Sound Samples
- open Sallad's Normal in notepad
- paste the lines below //Storyboard Sound Samples
- save, remove osb file and full-submit

Also I notice the skin is very similar with the skin in ztrot's BACK-ON - Fly Away map, if you take it from there you should ask and credit him. I plan on asking
There will be trouble if you don't :o

Edit: Moved to pending, also added a different background to Sallad's diff.
Roddie
Hi :3

Blue: Suggestions.
Purple: Should be fixed in my opinion.
Red: Must be fixed.

IRC Modding for both Easy and Hard;

SPOILER
22:57 <Roddie> : i got a question
22:58 *Roddie is editing (Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version))[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/18732]
22:58 <Roddie> : on easy
22:58 <Death_the_kid> : Yeah?
22:58 <Roddie> : 00:47:347 -
22:58 <Roddie> : there should be a clap on that reverse arrow
22:59 <Roddie> : do u think?
22:59 <Death_the_kid> : It works better
22:59 <Roddie> : good
22:59 <Death_the_kid> : Thanks
23:02 <Roddie> : easy is all set
23:24 <Roddie> : on hard
23:24 <Roddie> : 00:45:133 -
23:24 <Roddie> : add clap on that reverse arrow
23:24 <Death_the_kid> : Sounds Great
23:26 <Roddie> : 00:47:347 (5, 6 ,7) -
23:26 <Roddie> : add clap on that reverse arrow on 5, add claps on both 6 and 7
23:27 <Roddie> : 00:52:453 (3) -
23:27 <Roddie> : add clap on end of slider
23:28 <Roddie> : 01:19:900 (2) -
23:28 <Roddie> : add clap on the beginning of that slider
23:29 <Roddie> : 01:26:283 (7) -
23:29 <Roddie> : add clap on beginning of slider
23:29 <Death_the_kid> : Done~
23:30 <Roddie> : 01:30:751 (4) -
23:30 <Roddie> : add clap on end of slider
23:31 <Death_the_kid> : 01:39:049-
23:31 <Death_the_kid> : Before you say it
23:31 <Roddie> : lol
23:31 <Roddie> : i was going 2
23:31 <Roddie> : i test it out a bit...
23:31 <Roddie> : i think there should be a clap
23:31 <Roddie> : on end of slider
23:31 <Death_the_kid> : Added at end though
23:32 <Roddie> : 01:52:453 (1) -
23:32 <Roddie> : move one grid left
23:32 <Roddie> : and fix spacing after
23:33 <Roddie> : 01:53:730 (3) -
23:33 <Roddie> : same thing
23:34 <Death_the_kid> : All fixed

Sallad's Normal:

00:32:666 (5)-I'm not sure if you leave this on purpose for it to be align with 1.
I would think you should move 5 one grid down. But that's your call.

00:42:879 (2, 3)-Move one grid up on 2. And move one grid down on 3.

Nice map. 8-)

Good luck getting this ranked again!

Star!
Yuji Tokaji
Hey,

[Easy]

Replace timing section : 69 047 => 69 049

- 00:56:283(5) : Remove 1 repeat ?

[Sallad's Normal]

Replace timing section : 48 622 => 48 624

- 00:41:922(6) : 1 grid down ?
- 00:42:560(1) : ^
- 01:12:241(1) : Delete, make it ( 01:12:241 - 01:12:560 ) and add a repeat ?
- 01:13:198(2,3,4) : Spacing. ( If you make a slider )
- 01:53:570(4,5) : Strange..

[Hard]

- 01:40:964(5) : 1 grid right ?


Okay, that's it.
Pretty map !
Star !
Sallad4ever
Fixed some (most of the nazi) :)

and this part : 01:53:570(4,5) : Strange..
I'm following the lyric so it's fine

Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Death_the_kid) [Sallad's Normal].osu
thx for the mod :D
Haneii
You need a "cursortrail.png" in the folder.
Make all the kiai time same on all the maps (I suggest the same as sallad's normal)

couldn't find anything else :P

~Twinkle twinkle little star~
aRiskOfRain
I think this is fine.
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun

DiamondCrash wrote:

I think this is fine.
Thanks for the no Nazi mod.
KLong977
Like the beatmap.
You got a Star!
Sallad4ever
after thinking it over and over and over and over again
I decide to unstack 01:53:570(4,5), stacking it do looks weird :o
Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Death_the_kid) [Sallad's Normal].osu
Krisom
Hey!

General-
Make the custom clap LOUDER.

Easy-
00:00:113 (1) - Finish
00:17:985 (5) - this one should be the new combo. Also, finish.
00:28:198 (1) - Finish
00:38:411 (1) - ^
00:46:070 (1) - ^
00:48:624 (1) - ^
01:16:070 (2) - Add a whistle at the end?
01:24:368 (2) - add a whistle?
01:59:475 (2)/01:56:922 (2) - place this ones at the center of the map? (use gird snap with distance snap off)
Good!

Normal-
I strongly suggest you to remove the SBed hitsounds. There was a discussion about this recently on one of andrea's maps and in the end it looks like SBed hitsounds are no longer nice
00:57:241 (2) - remove the clap or the finish at the end
01:38:092 (4) - ^

Hard-
00:00:113 (1) - Finish
00:02:347 (1) - Finish the end
00:28:198 (1) - Finish
00:38:411 (3) - ^
01:16:709 (4) - Whistle?
01:24:368 (1) - ^?


Great! you're improving a lot!

Star~
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun

Krisom wrote:

Hey!

General-
Make the custom clap LOUDER.

Easy-
00:00:113 (1) - Finish
00:17:985 (5) - this one should be the new combo. Also, finish.
00:28:198 (1) - Finish
00:38:411 (1) - ^
00:46:070 (1) - ^
00:48:624 (1) - ^
01:16:070 (2) - Add a whistle at the end?
01:24:368 (2) - add a whistle?
01:59:475 (2)/01:56:922 (2) - place this ones at the center of the map? (use gird snap with distance snap off)
Good!

Normal-
I strongly suggest you to remove the SBed hitsounds. There was a discussion about this recently on one of andrea's maps and in the end it looks like SBed hitsounds are no longer nicelol Sallad he noticed :P
00:57:241 (2) - remove the clap or the finish at the end
01:38:092 (4) - ^

Hard-
00:00:113 (1) - Finish
00:02:347 (1) - Finish the end
00:28:198 (1) - Finish
00:38:411 (3) - ^
01:16:709 (4) - Whistle?
01:24:368 (1) - ^?

Fixed everything

Great! you're improving a lot! :3

Star~
Sallad4ever

Krisom wrote:

Normal-
I strongly suggest you to remove the SBed hitsounds. There was a discussion about this recently on one of andrea's maps and in the end it looks like SBed hitsounds are no longer nice ah I knew this, if I'm not wrong it's on andrea's nightcore map. Well the thing is if I remove the SBed hitsounds it'll break my clap pattern and I really don't want that to happen, so if there's anything sounds weird on the SBed hitsounds please tell me and I'll fix it. I'll do anything to defend it
00:57:241 (2) - remove the clap or the finish at the end Done :3
01:38:092 (4) - ^ ok :>
Thx for the mod Krisom :)
Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Death_the_kid) [Sallad's Normal].osu
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
~Update~ (Redownload)

New MP3
New Video
New BG's
(All Thanks to Dangaard :3)
Dan's diff added
Moved to W.I.P.
Changed Offset


I think that's all :o
Sallad4ever
Increase the volume and remove some timing section

*Pow*
Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Death_the_kid) [Sallad's Normal].osu

To Dan : I'm waiting for your diff :)
Yunacat
I made a Taiko difficulty for this map. You can use it if you want, or you can leave it alone, that's up to you...
I just wanted to help because I love this song! :)

Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Death_the_kid) [Yunacat's Taiko].osu


I also made an image to represent like the other difficulties~ (Yay Flynn)


Dangaard
Here is a .zip, containing my difficulty, an additional custom hitsound and a .txt with the color codes for the other difficulties of yours. Also I changed offset to 82ms.
Sorry for the long wait :?

Download: DanDan.zip

Edit: fixed some spacing
Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Death_the_kid) [Dan's Hard].osu

Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Thanks Dan :)
Alright then moved to Pending
Also Redownload
Galkan
Oh fuck, star without even playing. This song is sooooooo cool. I'll check the map later and I hope you didn't screw up!
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun

Galkan92 wrote:

Oh fuck, star without even playing. This song is sooooooo cool. I'll check the map later and I hope you didn't screw up!
:P
Risx

Yunacat wrote:

I made a Taiko difficulty for this map. You can use it if you want, or you can leave it alone, that's up to you...
I just wanted to help because I love this song! :)

[attachment=1:3b945]Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Death_the_kid) [Yunacat's Taiko].osu[/attachment:3b945]


I also made an image to represent like the other difficulties~ (Yay Flynn)

SPOILER
[attachment=0:3b945]Flynn.jpg[/attachment:3b945]
You should check this out, it's a really nice Taiko map. Good addition to your current selection, since your maps don't make particularly challenging taiko maps.
Sakura
[osz File Scan!]
Everything ok here!

[General]
Remove countdown on all diffs as it doesnt even fit.

[Yunacat's Taiko]
01:49:852 (37) - And all other 1/4 streamed finishes i dunno, looks kinda odd to have them after a 1/4 stream even if the song is slow, since that means the player would have a hard time hitting double on them if anything.

[Dan's Hard]
Heh finally time to mod this dandan o/
---TIMING SECTION MOD----
SPOILER
All are ok
I'm not sure if i like the semi-linear-not so curvy sliders, but i guess it's your mapping style.
01:28:166 (1,2,3,4) - Could you rotate theese so that (1) is algined with the previous slider? i think it flows better.

[Hard]
00:07:741 (10) - Add hitsound whistle?
00:17:635 (8) - ^
00:27:209 (8) - ^ At the end of the slider.
00:38:379 (4,1) - Swap new combo?
01:40:613 (4,5) - Spacing too close. (There are way more of theese, i recommend you go through your map, sometimes the grid level combined with the spacing distance dont add up well and it causes theese errors, to fix them, move them 1 grid back (the ones too far) or 1 grid far (The ones too close) until the spacing is correct)

[Sallad's Normal]
00:09:320 (2,3,4) - Feels awkward considering you've been following the instruments until now, not that i mind but, maybe add a few extra notes following the instrument after theese 3?.
00:12:193 (2,3) - ^
00:19:852 (3,4) - ^
00:23:682 (1,2,3,4) - The shape you were trying here didnt work that well, looks really weird, try something else?
00:32:299 (4) - Align with the same angle towards (2) than (3) to (1) then fix the spacing of (5) after the change.
00:53:682 (1,2,3,4,5) - It looks really weird how you stacked 4 notes then a note is off, either stack all theese 5 notes or make a shape with them.
01:35:171 (3,4) - Spacing too close. (Nazi) Also, is the curving of 01:34:533 (1,2,3,4) intentional? or an accidental misalignment?

[Easy]
Pretty simple... but only that, i'd really would have loved to see more variation between the rythmic patterns rathern than (1/1)xN

[Overall]
Bah, all theese ToV things are making me regret not getting a 360 instead of a Wii, oh well...
Dangaard
I removed countdown and letterbox during breaks.

Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Death_the_kid) [Dan's Hard].osu
Sallad4ever

Sakura Hana wrote:

[Sallad's Normal]
00:09:320 (2,3,4) - Feels awkward considering you've been following the instruments until now, not that i mind but, maybe add a few extra notes following the instrument after theese 3?. I'm trying to make this diff with low density of notes that's why I avoid placing notes on every 1/2 beat
00:12:193 (2,3) - ^^
00:19:852 (3,4) - ^^
00:23:682 (1,2,3,4) - The shape you were trying here didnt work that well, looks really weird, try something else? failed orz, anyway changed to triangle pattern
00:32:299 (4) - Align with the same angle towards (2) than (3) to (1) then fix the spacing of (5) after the change. true the angle is too sharp compared to (2,3). Change (2,3,4) but still maintaining the position of (1) & (5)
00:53:682 (1,2,3,4,5) - It looks really weird how you stacked 4 notes then a note is off, either stack all theese 5 notes or make a shape with them. I want to give emphasize on 5 so I unstack it
01:35:171 (3,4) - Spacing too close. (Nazi) Also, is the curving of 01:34:533 (1,2,3,4) intentional? or an accidental misalignment? Fixed the nazi as for 01:34:533 (1,2,3,4) it is intentional :D
Thanks 4 the mod Saku~ :3
Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Death_the_kid) [Sallad's Normal].osu
Doomsday
Oh hey again :)

  1. Offset feels just a little late. I got Offset: 72
  2. Also, Sallad's Normal and Yunacat's Taiko both have different timing to the other difficulties. Really, all difficulties should have the same timing. Hopefully you're changing the offset to my offset anyway.
[EASY]

I couldn't see anything wrong, but one think I didn't like was how it sticks to 1/1 beats (basically, sticking to white ticks). It might be the easy way to make an easy, but you end up with a very boring one. You can still go onto red and blue ticks on an Easy to map to the music better. So long as there aren't any silly hard parts in there, It's all good. Sticking to white ticks stops it from following the music very well too. It's passable, But it could have been better. In your next easy, try mapping with the blue and red ticks too. you'll find it works better.

[SALLAD'S NORMAL]

01:53:522 (4,5) - This little spacing jump here confused me at first. I know you did it so it looked nice, but it doesn't play very well. Could you rearrange it so the spacing works AND it looks nice?

[HARD]

Again, like easy, This isn't mapped to the music very well, Primarily the lyrics. You mapped to the guitar and drums nicely, but on the lyrics, you just went for constant beats 1/2 away from each other, which got boring fast. The lyrics have some nice places where you could have some interesting patterns and hitsounds going on, so sticking to the lyrics more on this song would be awesome. As of yet, It's rather boring :( Apart from that, nothing technically wrong going on.

[DAN'S HARD]

00:14:762 (2,3) - I'm not keen on this jump. Feels very out of place to me.
00:24:655 (1,2,3) - ^ (Not as out of place as the last one, however)
01:54:336 (1,2,3) - Personally, I'd stack this on the beat before. How it is now, I actually went for it early and missed because of how it's 1/2 the spacing it should be.
01:59:443 (1,2,3) - ^

[YUNACAT'S TAIKO]

Play's nicely, and has some nice patterns, even though It might've mapped to the drums too much, Mapping to them a bit is fine, but Taiko tends to have it's own rhythm's to go along with it too. There was also a bit too many parts where you were stuck to constant 1/4 beats (lik at 00:10:597 (34,35,36,37,38,39)). These got boring over time. It could have used some more spice to liven it up these parts a bit.

It's a solid map, and Dan's 'n' Sallad's difficulties are nicely done, but easy and Hard leave a lot to be desired. It's not that there's much wrong with them. It's just that they are so boring since they ignore the funky lyrics and go for constant 1/2 beats or 1/1 beats. You really should consider mapping to the lyrics more. It would make the map much more interesting.

Due to Dan's and Sallad's maps, you get a star from me.
Dangaard
Ok, fixed most of what Sakura and Doomsday have mentioned. Using 72ms now. Also changed some slider shapes on my own.

Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Death_the_kid) [Dan's Hard].osu
Sallad4ever
happy30
- Add Yunacat to tags of all diffs
- Use 1 offset for all diffs, 72 sounds good to me


Sallad's Normal
00:35:178 (3,1,2,3) - Is this suposed to suggest a straight line? it isn't lineair.
01:30:710 (3) - Clean this slider a bit, (middle waypoint some grids down, endpoint maybe grid to left?)

Hard
Don't forget to resnap the green timing sections.

Go go finish the diff :3

Taiko
00:07:725 till 00:26:235 - I think some White-Blue-Red tick rhythm combinations would play nice, somehow the 1/2 stream doesn't feel good for me.
Dangaard
Why do I have to update my diff now? :o
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Let me fullsubmit when I get home ~
Sander-Don
Very nice map, star~ :3
Sallad4ever
Yunacat
Ok, I listened to what everyone said and did my best to update it! It's gained a good 60 or so notes! D: (Mostly because you all are right, I made it too simple, too easy, and therefore boring, so I added notes in between places to make it more--lively?) I changed the offset to what was suggested, and attempted to make up for what the suggestions/complaints about certain parts said (though I admit I wasn't entirely sure what to do with some parts)

I tried my best!! O:

And yay I see a Sander-Don in this thread! *pokes it*

Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Kiddo-Kun) [Yunacat's Taiko].osu
Yunacat
Updated again! D: (and sorry for the double post)

This time I removed a few finishes that were a part of 1/4 streams as I realized it wasn't allowed. Because of that I had to change the beginning too.

Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Kiddo-Kun) [Yunacat's Taiko].osu
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
Alright then! Let's get this ranked!
Lilac
No breaks. Man, that's harsh, even if the song's 94 BPM and 2 minutes duration.

[Hard]
-1 HP Drain?

[Dan's Hard]
Same as Hard, maybe. Difficulty is kinda leaning towards Insane. I'd rename it Insane. There's nothing really you can do that's more harder than that and plays well.

00:45:709 (3,1) - I found that to be very unfair.
01:49:539 (3,1) - ^ But I don't know. Maybe it's my playing skills. (Happens like 3 more times if you change it that is.)

It's all gravy.
arien666
Checking Taiko diff :3

[General]
BTW, you should add TAG 'Yunacat'...

[Yunacat's Taiko]
KARMA is better<<<JK
[Suggestion] OD -1?
If possible, set SV 1.4 please
01:49:220 - This Kiai end should be on 01:49:858



Okay.
I should give a star since I like BUMP OF CHICKEN - Karma ;_;
vincerio
very nice :3
Yunacat
Took all of the suggestions into consideration and I did change the OD because arien666 is right, and I didn't realize it was up that high. x:
That and the Kiai was definitely on the wrong point, so I fixed that too.
Also, changed the SV to 1.4 and I like that better now! :3

Download: Bonnie Pink - Ring A Bell (English Version) (Kiddo-Kun) [Yunacat's Taiko].osu


And yes KARMA is also an awesome song! If someone were to make the vocal version I'd love to make a Taiko for it! ;o; (I don't really want to map it out for OSU though...)
James2250
Remove countdown from every difficulty
Why not end final kiai time on white tick?
I don't think the first 3 difficulties need more than a 1 second lead-in but some people like them all to be the same so meh..
Some difficulties have letterboxing during breaks, some don't. Want to make that consistent? Wait there are no breaks...errr..nvm?

Easy:
Kind of high stats for an Easy, AR -1 at least
No problems with map

Every other difficulty looks good~
Nicely done (cough would bubble when bubbles finally go down)
Have a star
Alace
offset should be 82
72 is really too early
ztrot
feels fine to me bubbled good job
abalee
offset is a bit early for me too.
orioncomet
-popped for now, already talked with mapper-
yes, offset 82~
[me Alace abalee Dangaard and kioukiou.. lol]
feel free to poke me when you're done

EDIT: Rebubbled ~
Topic Starter
Kiddo-Kun
All fixed up ^^
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