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Yuuzuki Tsubaki - midnight cookie [Osu|Taiko]

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Krfawy

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neonat
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2015-10-22 00:39 neonat: use 夕月椿 as the artist
2015-10-22 00:39 Alheak: official sources says "Tsubaki" written in romaji
2015-10-22 00:40 neonat: http://puu.sh/kSpN6.png
2015-10-22 00:40 Alheak: oh wait actually not
2015-10-22 00:40 Alheak: you're right
2015-10-22 00:40 Alheak: dam
2015-10-22 00:40 neonat: japanese ppl are tricky
2015-10-22 00:40 neonat: hue
2015-10-22 00:40 neonat: they like many names
2015-10-22 00:40 Alheak: yes
2015-10-22 00:41 neonat: 01:03:831 (4,5,6) - tbh very underwhelming for this portion of the song, just for you to think about
2015-10-22 00:41 neonat: i know the next part slows down
2015-10-22 00:41 neonat: but kinda slowed down before it actually happens I feel
2015-10-22 00:42 neonat: 01:14:158 (1,2) - I think a slowed slider that would cover over these 2 objects would have a better effect
2015-10-22 00:43 neonat: 01:25:306 - really gonna overlook this beat?
2015-10-22 00:43 neonat: omg this is a cut? man that's sad
2015-10-22 00:44 Alheak: yea
2015-10-22 00:44 Alheak: im a lazy fuck
2015-10-22 00:44 Alheak: it wasn't supposed to be serious
2015-10-22 00:44 Alheak: then full spread happened
2015-10-22 00:45 Alheak: changed what you pointed out
2015-10-22 00:46 neonat: in hard from loooking at it only I assumed that 00:33:012 (1,2,3) - was equal spacing and that caused them to look unqually spaced from each other's body
2015-10-22 00:47 neonat: but they weren't! and well since they aren't why not try and make them look more equally spaced from each other
2015-10-22 00:47 neonat: like eg. 00:33:012 (1,2) - their ends are pretty close
2015-10-22 00:49 Alheak: mhh
2015-10-22 00:52 Alheak: not sure if i follow you here
2015-10-22 00:53 Alheak: they already look kinda equally spaced but you want them to look even more equally spaced?
2015-10-22 00:54 neonat: maybe the middle slider more horizontal
2015-10-22 00:54 Alheak: okay
2015-10-22 00:54 neonat: 01:13:011 (3,4,5) - in advanced these supposed to be in a straight line?
2015-10-22 00:55 neonat: cuz i copied 01:13:339 (4,5) - over and over to overlap from 3 onwards and 4 and 5 aren't in a straight line from 3 lol
2015-10-22 00:55 Alheak: yes
2015-10-22 00:55 Alheak: welp
2015-10-22 00:56 Alheak: fixd
2015-10-22 00:59 neonat: 01:17:601 (1) - Easy the bend not so sharp pls, can barely see the bottom slider side
2015-10-22 01:00 Alheak: okay
2015-10-22 01:00 neonat: krfawy is fine with Normal having that much 1/2 triplets when Easy has none eh? Well I won't stop him from rebubbling, but maybe that's something he should note lol
2015-10-22 01:01 neonat: get him to double check himself the changed artist name too for his sake
2015-10-22 01:01 neonat: gd luck! o/ I'm done with my brief look through

I'll let Krfawy decide if he wants to straight away rebubble though. Also lol. We meet again
Krfawy
But I think it's ready so after a discussion with neonat I'm going to rebubble it once again.


#KRÓWCIA
neonat

Krfawy wrote:

But I think it's ready so after a discussion with neonat I'm going to rebubble it once again.


#KRÓWCIA
we did talk about it a little, but I did say the artist name is still not confirmed.....
Topic Starter
Alheak
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria#Metadata

Eastern artists must be written in the proper 'surname firstname' format (e.g. Japanese/Chinese/Korean). For artists which have a preferred romanisation, use this one. If you're unsure of your artist's name, then check previously ranked maps, Google, Wikipedia, or ask a BN for help.
Note the "For artists which have a preferred romanisation, use this one", "Tsubaki" is the official romanisation used for her songs, even though "夕月椿" (Yuuzuki Tsubaki) is her real name, which is how it is written in the official japanese metadata used for her songs.

So:
  1. Artist: 夕月椿
  2. Romanised artist: Tsubaki
is the correct form--

or so I'd like it to be, but according to Touhou Wiki, she apparently prefers to use "Yuuzuki Tsubaki" as her romanised name since 2013.




JBHyperion
Shouldn't the artist be Halozy? It's listed as track 08 on their 864 album with 夕月椿 / Tsubaki listed as vocal accompaniment - Halozy official website, VGMdb listing

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Tracks created by composers belonging to doujin circles should list the circle's name as the main composer. The sole exception to this is when a composer of a given circle is well-known enough by their own name. In this case, their own composer name may be used instead.
In this case, it's not even the composer (すみじゅん / sumijun) being cited as the artist, but the vocalist, so in my mind there should be no reason not to cite the source artist as the circle which Tsubaki is collaborating with, Halozy. This can be seen in other recent maps, e.g. here (Halozy, not 美里), here, here and every other Genryuu Kaiko map (again Halozy, not ほたる / Hotaru), etc.

Just throwing that out there, since I was mapping a CtB set for this anyway and it happened to catch my eye xD
Topic Starter
Alheak
That's because Tsubaki isn't a member of Halozy, just a guest, so it doesn't make much sense in my opinion to put Halozy as the artist since only sumijun from Halozy participated in the song.
But Hotaru is (was) a member, so it was justified to put Halozy as the artist for those songs.

Of course I'd prefer the opinion of someone more knowledgable in this kind of metadata issue to confirm, but this seems good enough.
neonat
Tsubaki is ENS, that so-called rule is stupid anyway. Tsubaki > Halozy anyway. ugh.
Also when it comes to listing the artist down, it's the Vocals, not the arrangement or composer, unless stated specifically on the spine.
pishifat
me when i want food but dont want to wake up my roommates

01:29:896 - there's no percussion stuff in the song yet you're using hardcore drum hitsounds. if you want to compliment the song, do it in a way that's not the same as when you had drum stuff since like the song is just different than those parts

easy
01:04:158 (4,1,2,1,2) - so you've got an sv change, which is fine, but then your spacing becomes something that could be confusing for scrubs. 4->1 and 1->2 are visually pretty similar, yet one's 1/1 and the other is 3/2. if you were to use higher spacing the slower sv section (like 1.2x) the issue would be nonexistent

normal
00:48:092 (4,5) - ending the strongest thing on a slidertail pleaseno. ctrlging those like 00:27:109 (4,5) - would be great
01:03:831 (5,1,2,1,2) - tbh kinda same thing as easy. even 1.1x would be fine
01:25:552 (1,1) - i know it's like only 1/2 away from the recommended recovery time but like usually maps get killed regardless of that. id prefer if you just use the same rhythm as easy but if you wanna risk it idc that much

advanced
00:15:552 (3) - 00:20:798 (3) - if you don't want to include 1/4 on this diff, just use 1/2 (which would be best). if you're okay with using 1/4, use 2 circles. don't use a blue tick 1/4 slider tho since it's like clicking on the weak thing + ignoring the strong thing + polarity ruined (since it plays like bleh) + ugh kill me just do it

hard
01:13:340 (4) - could you not put a slidertail on the climax of the buildup thing
if you wanna follow vocals you could do efdxzc or if don't care about vocals you could do fdfdfs or sdfdsf so many options better than slidertail on loud stuff

lunatic
00:27:109 (4) - 00:48:093 (1) - combo consistency tho

i dunno what the drama is about metadata, but if it's a big deal you can just fix it after a qat says it's wrong
Topic Starter
Alheak

pishifat wrote:

me when i want food but dont want to wake up my roommates

01:29:896 - there's no percussion stuff in the song yet you're using hardcore drum hitsounds. if you want to compliment the song, do it in a way that's not the same as when you had drum stuff since like the song is just different than those parts yeah, i went a bit overboard here, changed

easy
01:04:158 (4,1,2,1,2) - so you've got an sv change, which is fine, but then your spacing becomes something that could be confusing for scrubs. 4->1 and 1->2 are visually pretty similar, yet one's 1/1 and the other is 3/2. if you were to use higher spacing the slower sv section (like 1.2x) the issue would be nonexistent changed

normal
00:48:092 (4,5) - ending the strongest thing on a slidertail pleaseno. ctrlging those like 00:27:109 (4,5) - would be great changed
01:03:831 (5,1,2,1,2) - tbh kinda same thing as easy. even 1.1x would be fine changed
01:25:552 (1,1) - i know it's like only 1/2 away from the recommended recovery time but like usually maps get killed regardless of that. id prefer if you just use the same rhythm as easy but if you wanna risk it idc that much changed this part

advanced
00:15:552 (3) - 00:20:798 (3) - if you don't want to include 1/4 on this diff, just use 1/2 (which would be best). if you're okay with using 1/4, use 2 circles. don't use a blue tick 1/4 slider tho since it's like clicking on the weak thing + ignoring the strong thing + polarity ruined (since it plays like bleh) + ugh kill me just do it this was originally two circles but CB recommended me not to do that, tho he did not tell me to replace them by this so i think im just gonna keep those 2 circles like before

hard
01:13:340 (4) - could you not put a slidertail on the climax of the buildup thing
if you wanna follow vocals you could do efdxzc or if don't care about vocals you could do fdfdfs or sdfdsf so many options better than slidertail on loud stuff changed

lunatic
00:27:109 (4) - 00:48:093 (1) - combo consistency tho yep

i dunno what the drama is about metadata, but if it's a big deal you can just fix it after a qat says it's wrong

thanks for mod would you consider heart tho
pishifat
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LigerZero

neonat wrote:

Tsubaki is ENS, that so-called rule is stupid anyway. Tsubaki > Halozy anyway. ugh.
Also when it comes to listing the artist down, it's the Vocals, not the arrangement or composer, unless stated specifically on the spine.
why you not look beatmap tsubaki - kyun kyun tamaran inaba-tan.......?
Topic Starter
Alheak

LigerZero wrote:

why you not look beatmap tsubaki - kyun kyun tamaran inaba-tan.......?
this one is an old map, rules might have been different then, or not enforced as seriously as now.
pkk
congrats alheak! you did ittttt
Azer
I think this needs a +10 offset, although it could just be me.
Topic Starter
Alheak

Azer wrote:

I think this needs a +10 offset, although it could just be me.
it does indeed play a little better with this, though you're probably the first one noticing it, so I have no idea if this is really a big deal.

I guess QATs will have the final word about that
Azer
They can just apply an online offset, no need to DQ for that :P
LigerZero
done your map added to discography Halozy
Sonnyc
Uhh.. Spacing of hard in general such as 00:23:831 (1,2,3,4) - 00:31:700 (1,1,1,1) - or 01:04:158 (7,1) - in advanced could've been wayyyyyyyy more polished. Highly disappointed personally.

Grats with the rank anyways, and good luck with your future mappings.
Want_old_2
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Flan_Fan
good song!

[tasuke's Muzukaishii]

00:13:831 - consider changing this to a don
00:15:634 - maybe consider changing this note to a don? Personally it sounds better like that
00:18:913 - consider changing this to a don
00:20:880 - consider changing this to a don as well
00:25:470 - consider changing this stream from kdkkdkd to kdkddkd
00:28:913 - consider adding in a don
00:30:224 - ^
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