Kajiura Yuki - Sis puella magica! [CatchTheBeat] · forum

MBomb

Topic Starter

MBomb 2015-06-11T15:31:58+00:00

Updated.

autofanboy

Elite Mapper / osu!trivium Champion

1,578 posts

Joined January 2011

autofanboy 2015-06-13T14:47:11+00:00

Mod Requested by - Magic Bomb - (M4M)

[

General]

Romanized Artist / Artist

For Romanized Artist, change it to Yuki Kajiura.
For Artist, change it to 梶浦由記 without a space in between.

Song Title
Change it to Sis puella magica! (Short Ver.).

Source
You might want to change it to 魔法少女まどか☆マギカ.

Tags
Add 梶浦, 由記 for the composer name.
Add Eri Itoh, 伊東恵里, 伊東, 恵里 as she is the vocalist of the song.
If you changed the source, then just add Puella Magi Madoka Magica back to the tags.

* The above points are based on the ranked version and some other sources via Internet.

[

Magic Girl's Cup]

Gameplay

00:22:749 (1) - You might want to make this to be more slanted so there are more movements, in this case the player just have to stand straight which is not too advisable.
00:33:695 (4) - ^

* Nice diff. I hardly can find any problems on this Cup.

[

Salad]

Difficulty

Increase CS to 3.4 or 3.5 for a gradual change between Cup, Salad and Platter, as CS 3.2 is just a minor difference with CS 3.
Since the Salad is too short, I think increasing HP to 5 is better than keeping it 4.5. However this is just optional suggestion.

Gameplay
It is too hard as a Salad. As there are way too many dashes (I FC'ed with ~35-40 dashes without counting the one in spinners). I highly recommend to nerf some of the jumps to make it easier. Note that Salad is just the diff that introduces the dashes, and it is short, so expect that beginner players will play this map, and they will not be able to FC this Salad because of the hard dashes. Some examples are given below for you to remove the dashes.
00:00:655 (1,1) - Even though the Salad is FC'able by a couple of tries by most of the players, I still think that prolonging the distance between the spinner and the first circle is essential, considering that there are several beginner players playing the diff. They will find the circle too hard to notice or being unable to catch up after spinning.
00:10:790 (2,1) - It is actually not a big problem but due to the waviness pattern in the spinner, beginner players might not be able to catch up or they dashed to the spinner earlier. Therefore you should move (1,2) together to x:272 to allow the players to prepare for the spinner, or just simply remove 00:10:790 (2) that works well in my opinion.
00:10:993 (1) - End the spinner earlier to give more preparation time the players to catch up the upcoming notes.
00:13:020 (1,2) - Remove the dash, it seems unnecessary to add that here.
00:16:263 (3,4,1) - Remove the dashes, or keep one of them. Beginner players will find this difficult as they dashed to the right but they might not be able to catch up by dashing back to left.
00:22:344 (4,1) - Too hard here for the beginner players. They might not be able to turn the direction and dash to the right. Simply trim down the distance here or remove the dash.
00:26:803 (4,5,1) - This is way too hard for the beginner players certainly! They have to dash consecutively so it is not recommendable.
00:43:020 (3,4,5,6,7) - I don't really like how (3,4,5) places, it will be too hard for the player to dash, and I know you want to add a little dash before the spinner, so maybe you want to take a look at this (add dash at last note instead).

[

Platter]

Difficulty

Change CS to 4 if you did changes on the Salad diff.
Change HP to 6 if you did changes on the Salad diff.

Gameplay
It contains too many HDashes here. Note that Platter is just a introduction for the HDashes, it is highly not recommendable to add HDashes every stanza changes except some notes that you want to emphasize like the one before the climax parts. Remove some of the HDashes. Some examples are shown below.
00:05:317 (6,1) - Remove the HDash, as it is not necessary at all.
00:07:749 (5,1) - ^
00:09:776 (6,1) - ^
00:14:641 (5,1) - ^
00:17:479 (5,1) - ^
00:19:506 (5,1) - ^
00:21:939 (5,6) - Oh the jump is way too large and it is hard to catch. Shorten the distance.
00:24:371 (5,1) - Remove the HDash.
00:25:182 (1,2) - Oh why...
00:26:803 (5,6) - Same as 00:21:939 (5,6)
00:29:641 (5,1) - Remove the HDash, and it is inconsistent for the HDash pattern here because you add HDash at (5) instead of the new combo (1). However the HDash is not necessary here so it is recommended to remove.
00:31:466 (4,1,2) - Seems like this part is too hard.
00:35:722 (4,5) - Reduce the distance.
00:36:938 (8,1) - Remove the HDash.
00:37:547 (2,3) - Either add back the HDash (not recommended) or move (3) to x:376, because it is inconsistent to not having a HDash here, so adding a HDash can keep the consistence ; moving (3) to x:376 can change the mindset of the players to not thinking that they are with same pattern.
00:38:560 (4,5,6) - Move this whole part if you did changes on the previous mod.

Good luck ranking the mapset.
-AFB

MBomb

Topic Starter

MBomb 2015-06-13T18:44:02+00:00

alienflybot wrote:
Mod Requested by - Magic Bomb - (M4M) - I'll do either tonight or tomorrow.

[ General]

Romanized Artist / Artist
For Romanized Artist, change it to Yuki Kajiura.
For Artist, change it to 梶浦由記 without a space in between.

Song Title
Change it to Sis puella magica! (Short Ver.).

Source
You might want to change it to 魔法少女まどか☆マギカ. - Denied all up until this point, as this map was ranked a long time ago, and so the metadata isn't completely accurate. I'm instead using the metadata for the recently qualified map (And will do unless it gets dqed for metadata reasons). However I will add this source to the tags.

Tags
Add 梶浦, 由記 for the composer name.
Add Eri Itoh, 伊東恵里, 伊東, 恵里 as she is the vocalist of the song. - Added these tags.
If you changed the source, then just add Puella Magi Madoka Magica back to the tags. - See source section above.

* The above points are based on the ranked version and some other sources via Internet.

[ Salad]

Difficulty
Increase CS to 3.4 or 3.5 for a gradual change between Cup, Salad and Platter, as CS 3.2 is just a minor difference with CS 3. - Changed to 3.4
Since the Salad is too short, I think increasing HP to 5 is better than keeping it 4.5. However this is just optional suggestion. - I would rather keep HP how it is.

Gameplay
It is too hard as a Salad. As there are way too many dashes (I FC'ed with ~35-40 dashes without counting the one in spinners). I highly recommend to nerf some of the jumps to make it easier. Note that Salad is just the diff that introduces the dashes, and it is short, so expect that beginner players will play this map, and they will not be able to FC this Salad because of the hard dashes. Some examples are given below for you to remove the dashes. - Just gonna point out, you were pressing dash button more than necessary by a long shot. I managed to FC with only 12 dashes, 35-40 is nowhere near needed.
00:00:655 (1,1) - Even though the Salad is FC'able by a couple of tries by most of the players, I still think that prolonging the distance between the spinner and the first circle is essential, considering that there are several beginner players playing the diff. They will find the circle too hard to notice or being unable to catch up after spinning. - I feel this is fine, the player is given 0.4 seconds after the spinner ends to react to the note, and due to the placement of the note, is always catchable after the spinner without dashing.
00:10:790 (2,1) - It is actually not a big problem but due to the waviness pattern in the spinner, beginner players might not be able to catch up or they dashed to the spinner earlier. Therefore you should move (1,2) together to x:272 to allow the players to prepare for the spinner, or just simply remove 00:10:790 (2) that works well in my opinion. - Instead of doing this, I moved 2 to the other side of 1.
00:10:993 (1) - End the spinner earlier to give more preparation time the players to catch up the upcoming notes. - Again, 0.4 seconds is plenty of time to react at this difficulty, remember this song isn't high bpm.
00:13:020 (1,2) - Remove the dash, it seems unnecessary to add that here. - You didn't need to dash for this, but moved it closer anyway to make it less awkward without dashing.
00:16:263 (3,4,1) - Remove the dashes, or keep one of them. Beginner players will find this difficult as they dashed to the right but they might not be able to catch up by dashing back to left. - Because 00:17:074 (4) - is 1/1 long, the player has enough time to react to the direction change before it happens.
00:22:344 (4,1) - Too hard here for the beginner players. They might not be able to turn the direction and dash to the right. Simply trim down the distance here or remove the dash. - Lowered distance slightly, kept dash though.
00:26:803 (4,5,1) - This is way too hard for the beginner players certainly! They have to dash consecutively so it is not recommendable. - The only dash here is from 5 to 1, there is no consecutive dashing.
00:43:020 (3,4,5,6,7) - I don't really like how (3,4,5) places, it will be too hard for the player to dash, and I know you want to add a little dash before the spinner, so maybe you want to take a look at this (add dash at last note instead). - I moved 5 a little bit closer as a lot of modders have pointed this out. However I did not add a dash to 7, I think this sound is too weak to add a dash.

[ Platter]

Difficulty
Change CS to 4 if you did changes on the Salad diff. - I made salad 3.4, so I'm keeping this as 3.8 for consistent spread.
Change HP to 6 if you did changes on the Salad diff. - I didn't.

Gameplay
It contains too many HDashes here. Note that Platter is just a introduction for the HDashes, it is highly not recommendable to add HDashes every stanza changes except some notes that you want to emphasize like the one before the climax parts. Remove some of the HDashes. - My mapping style for platters tends to have more hypers than most, at the expense of making them easy HDashes. Instead of being an introduction for them as in only having a few, I make it an introduction by having quite a lot, but easy ones.
Some examples are shown below.
00:05:317 (6,1) - Remove the HDash, as it is not necessary at all. - For the chime.
00:07:749 (5,1) - ^ - ^
00:09:776 (6,1) - ^ - ^
00:14:641 (5,1) - ^ - ^
00:17:479 (5,1) - ^ - ^
00:19:506 (5,1) - ^ - ^
00:21:939 (5,6) - Oh the jump is way too large and it is hard to catch. Shorten the distance. - This distance is easy to catch, even if you react slowly.
00:24:371 (5,1) - Remove the HDash. - Nope, for the chime.
00:25:182 (1,2) - Oh why... - Ok yeah idek why that was a HDash.
00:26:803 (5,6) - Same as 00:21:939 (5,6) - Yup, same response, this has a low enough required reaction time.
00:29:641 (5,1) - Remove the HDash, and it is inconsistent for the HDash pattern here because you add HDash at (5) instead of the new combo (1). However the HDash is not necessary here so it is recommended to remove. - This isn't inconsistent with the rest of the HDash pattern, as it is a HDash to 1, as it has been for the rest of the song, and not removed because of the chime.
00:31:466 (4,1,2) - Seems like this part is too hard. - This is fine, the player is given enough time to react.
00:35:722 (4,5) - Reduce the distance. - Reduced distance would break the flow here in my opinion.
00:36:938 (8,1) - Remove the HDash. - Nope, it's for the chime.
00:37:547 (2,3) - Either add back the HDash (not recommended) or move (3) to x:376, because it is inconsistent to not having a HDash here, so adding a HDash can keep the consistence ; moving (3) to x:376 can change the mindset of the players to not thinking that they are with same pattern. - This part is a weaker vocal than the HDashes earlier on, however stronger than the vocal of 2, and so it would make no sense to have the same distance here or a HDash.
00:38:560 (4,5,6) - Move this whole part if you did changes on the previous mod. - Nope.

Good luck ranking the mapset.
-AFB

Thanks for the mod!

Magic Girl

224 posts

Joined August 2013

Magic Girl 2015-06-14T07:30:25+00:00

alienflybot wrote:
Mod Requested by - Magic Bomb - (M4M)

[ Magic Girl's Cup]

Gameplay
00:22:749 (1) - You might want to make this to be more slanted so there are more movements, in this case the player just have to stand straight which is not too advisable. - Fixed
00:33:695 (4) - ^ - Fixed

* Nice diff. I hardly can find any problems on this Cup. Thanks \o

Thanks for modding

Magic Girl's Cup

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MBomb

Topic Starter

MBomb 2015-06-14T07:33:57+00:00

Updated.

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2015-06-14T11:50:20+00:00

random mod because im crazy

General

broken japanese words in Cup diff
meh
where is Insane's GD'er name in tags?

Cup

00:34:912 (1) - should has further spacing as the vocal feels louder x:80 would be good for me (if you agree so 00:36:128 (2) - move a little bit to left)
00:37:344 (3) - should has further spacing too, i'd say x:240 (if you agree so move 00:38:560 (1) - to x:320)

Salad

00:17:885 (1,2) - when you have movement from left to right and you repeat the flow again to (2), it doesnt feel good for lower diff like salad imo, i'd say ctrl+G (2) put at x:224 (if you agree 00:19:506 (3) - x:328 00:19:912 (4) - x:176)
00:20:722 (2) - just personal taste that i dont really like movement in this slider, i'd say make C-shape movement instead
00:26:803 (4,5,1) - that anti flow from (5) to (1), it doesnt feel suitable again in lower diff, make (1) has dash or place it at rightward (if you make (1) has dash, dont forget to make 00:28:020 (2) - with low normal spacing)

Platter

00:06:128 (2) - a little bit further imo, i'd move 3 grid left for this, also would be good having a far object for 00:06:533 - because the vocal?
00:10:993 - also this one has pitch vocal so i'd say jump too for this http://puu.sh/ionHs.jpg (if you agree, you better ctrl+g 00:11:398 (4) - for the flow)
00:13:425 (2) - nazi but i feel 1 grid left would make spacing more consistent?
00:15:452 (1) - make this has a little bit movement would make the flow nicer imo http://puu.sh/ionQI.jpg
00:43:020 (4) - for the ending, would be nicer to ctrl+g and move a bit to make it has dash to next object? as piano on stanza feels strong too

Rain

OD 8,6 because guideline says AR = OD
00:32:074 (3,4,5) - i do hate these jumps because they feel hard even i can catch them in testplay
00:17:074 (5) - i dont really like this distance because it suddenly different than other spacings i passed from begining until this point, i'd say ctrl+g and x: 384 to keep it more consistent
from 00:34:912 - until end, i feel really really need to add some HDashes, suitable parts for me to add HDashes : 00:34:912 - 00:39:777 - 00:43:425 - 00:42:209 - or 00:40:993 -

good luck

SUBSTAC9

288 posts

Joined May 2009

SUBSTAC9 2015-06-14T14:27:09+00:00

Xinely wrote:

Rain
OD 8,6 because guideline says AR = OD
00:32:074 (3,4,5) - i do hate these jumps because they feel hard even i can catch them in testplay
00:17:074 (5) - i dont really like this distance because it suddenly different than other spacings i passed from begining until this point, i'd say ctrl+g and x: 384 to keep it more consistent
from 00:34:912 - until end, i feel really really need to add some HDashes, suitable parts for me to add HDashes : 00:34:912 - 00:39:777 - 00:43:425 - 00:42:209 - or 00:40:993 -

all modding issue was fixed and re-new pattern was improved.
thank you very much

STAC's Rain

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Moeruattack

762 posts

Joined June 2014

Moeruattack 2015-06-15T01:12:10+00:00

MB pulled me again ><
Remodding lel.

STAC`s Rain
===========
Disable Widescreen Support, since no Storyboard. But if didn`t have, maybe cause I still using old map c:
00:32:277 - move a bit right, like x:256 or 264

Overall, I like this mapset c:
Give you free Kookiesu
===========

No Kookiesu for me

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-06-15T13:37:08+00:00

Random check on the new Rain diff, no kudosu please since I modded the other diffs recently, but first:

General Comments:

Check AImod for the Cup - I think there's been some unicode read/write error at some point since the unicode artist is listed as "æ¢¶æµ¦ ç”±è¨˜" instead of "梶浦由記", and the tags have suffered a similar problem

Rain:

It's already been mentioned, but may as well ask you to disable Widescreen Support as well, since there's no SB (and it should be consistent with the other diffs)
00:14:439 (4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is slightly awkward to play, since the spacing you have creates a stop/start flow that makes it easy to miss. I'd move (4,8) to x-440 and (6) to x-72 - this results in a more lenient pattern which is "walkable" with held dash
00:18:493 (2,3,4,5,6) - The change in jump distance between (4,5) is quite sudden. I'd move (4) to x-400 and (5) to x-296, as this gives you a more gradual buildup in jump size - (2,3) = 1.50x DS, (3,4) is 1.90x DS, (4,5) is 2.30x DS, and (5,6) is ~2.70x DS, giving an increase of +0.40x DS each time

Nice diff (:

MBomb

Topic Starter

MBomb 2015-06-16T16:37:11+00:00

Xinely wrote:
random mod because im crazy

General
broken japanese words in Cup diff - Fixed.
meh - I'll talk to MG.
where is Insane's GD'er name in tags? - Added.

Salad
00:17:885 (1,2) - when you have movement from left to right and you repeat the flow again to (2), it doesnt feel good for lower diff like salad imo, i'd say ctrl+G (2) put at x:224 (if you agree 00:19:506 (3) - x:328 00:19:912 (4) - x:176) - I changed, but instead of doing that, I kept the flow the same but reduced the distance between 1 and 2, so that it was obvious there is no dash, making it easier to not overdash.
00:20:722 (2) - just personal taste that i dont really like movement in this slider, i'd say make C-shape movement instead - Done.
00:26:803 (4,5,1) - that anti flow from (5) to (1), it doesnt feel suitable again in lower diff, make (1) has dash or place it at rightward (if you make (1) has dash, dont forget to make 00:28:020 (2) - with low normal spacing) - This was supposed to be a dash orz, fixed.

Platter
00:06:128 (2) - a little bit further imo, i'd move 3 grid left for this, also would be good having a far object for 00:06:533 - because the vocal? - Alright, done both.
00:10:993 - also this one has pitch vocal so i'd say jump too for this http://puu.sh/ionHs.jpg (if you agree, you better ctrl+g 00:11:398 (4) - for the flow) - Added a jump but in a different way to how you described, because that would get rid of the hyper.
00:13:425 (2) - nazi but i feel 1 grid left would make spacing more consistent? - Done.
00:15:452 (1) - make this has a little bit movement would make the flow nicer imo http://puu.sh/ionQI.jpg - Done.
00:43:020 (4) - for the ending, would be nicer to ctrl+g and move a bit to make it has dash to next object? as piano on stanza feels strong too - Done.

good luck

Thanks for the mod! Updated the rain too, although there are still mods to apply on that.

Magic Girl

224 posts

Joined August 2013

Magic Girl 2015-06-17T12:23:46+00:00

Xinely wrote:
random mod because im crazy

General
broken japanese words in Cup diff
meh - Will be fixed when I go to break... just gimme time when school stuff has calmed down then I'll hitsound whatever I can zzzz...
where is Insane's GD'er name in tags?

Cup
00:34:912 (1) - should has further spacing as the vocal feels louder x:80 would be good for me (if you agree so 00:36:128 (2) - move a little bit to left) - Fixed
00:37:344 (3) - should has further spacing too, i'd say x:240 (if you agree so move 00:38:560 (1) - to x:320) - Fixed

good luck

Thanks for modding

Magic Girl's Cup

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Edit: Since I'm up now anyway Imma sleepily mod the Rain because why not.

STAC's Rain

00:10:790 (2) - Move a little close to 00:10:587 (1) , the jump feels too big and it looks like a sudden transition from the smaller jumps before it even though the song doesn't really call for the jump. (x:216 is my suggestion)
00:19:506 (5) - Consider moving to x:224 making them hypers which in this case are easier to catch here and flow better imo.
00:22:141 (1,2,3) - Consider moving these closer to each other, the jumps are again a sudden transition and are really hard to follow.
00:25:182 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - I know there's the piano in the background but I don't think they need these jumps, either make some of them hypers or move them closer.
00:28:628 (1) - Consider moving to x:272
00:31:871 (2) - Consider moving to x:264
00:39:777 (1) - Consider moving to x:96

Sorry for the sloppy mod, sleepy atm but I hope this helps..

Kurokami

osu! Alumni

4,024 posts

Joined February 2010

Kurokami 2015-06-17T13:58:32+00:00

Spectator wrote:

Platter
00:00:655 (1) - The spinner here shouldn't be placed before herited timing point. Change offset to -358 so it might not be unrankable
Don't forget to change offset before ranking, as current offset is unrankable(in other words, having a spinner before herited point.)

This is actually wrong and though it already applied needs to be changed back. Why you suggest to follow something which is not exist? There is nothing unrankable about having note before the first main beat. If you want an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacrusis If you still not believe me or just want to be sure ask Shiro (he is the #2 timer in osu! after all). There are several maps ranked in the near past with notes before the first main beat, these shows its not unrankable (you modded them as well

).

Anyway, the real offset is 3290

MBomb

Topic Starter

MBomb 2015-06-17T14:43:35+00:00

Updated and changed offset, but I'll try to avoid getting any more mods for now, until SUBSTAC9 has applied mods.

SUBSTAC9

288 posts

Joined May 2009

SUBSTAC9 2015-06-19T04:51:37+00:00

I have busy in my bussiness, so sorry for my lately replied.

murutattack wrote:
Disable Widescreen Support, since no Storyboard. But if didn`t have, maybe cause I still using old map c: ok
00:32:277 - move a bit right, like x:256 or 264 fixed

Overall, I like this mapset c:
Give you free Kookiesu thank you

JBHyperion wrote:
Rain:

It's already been mentioned, but may as well ask you to disable Widescreen Support as well, since there's no SB (and it should be consistent with the other diffs) ok, I checked from above modding
00:14:439 (4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is slightly awkward to play, since the spacing you have creates a stop/start flow that makes it easy to miss. I'd move (4,8) to x-440 and (6) to x-72 - this results in a more lenient pattern which is "walkable" with held dash fixed
00:18:493 (2,3,4,5,6) - The change in jump distance between (4,5) is quite sudden. I'd move (4) to x-400 and (5) to x-296, as this gives you a more gradual buildup in jump size - (2,3) = 1.50x DS, (3,4) is 1.90x DS, (4,5) is 2.30x DS, and (5,6) is ~2.70x DS, giving an increase of +0.40x DS each time ok fixed

- Magic Girl - wrote:
STAC's Rain

00:10:790 (2) - Move a little close to 00:10:587 (1) , the jump feels too big and it looks like a sudden transition from the smaller jumps before it even though the song doesn't really call for the jump. (x:216 is my suggestion) fixed
00:19:506 (5) - Consider moving to x:224 making them hypers which in this case are easier to catch here and flow better imo. I'd make as a simple flowing so don't change in this pattern.
00:22:141 (1,2,3) - Consider moving these closer to each other, the jumps are again a sudden transition and are really hard to follow. ok, I changed to new pattern that isn't walk with dash and maybe it's easy for playing.
00:25:182 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - I know there's the piano in the background but I don't think they need these jumps, either make some of them hypers or move them closer. The Piano rhythm make them to jumping I'll change to make them easy to jumping so I won't make them to closer.
00:28:628 (1) - Consider moving to x:272 fixed
00:31:871 (2) - Consider moving to x:264 fixed
00:39:777 (1) - Consider moving to x:96 fixed

Thank you Very much

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MBomb

Topic Starter

MBomb 2015-06-19T15:15:11+00:00

Updated.

DragonSlayer96

418 posts

Joined July 2012

DragonSlayer96 2015-06-25T01:14:59+00:00

Cup

For consistency, add a spinner at the beginning like the other three difficulties

other than that, I do not see anything wrong

Salad

For consistency with NC, I would suggest that you turn 00:05:317 (4) - into two circles so you can keep it so every NC is on the chime (though I think you have the slider because of the vocals though ;-; )

00:05:317 (4) - if the above suggestion is not taken, I would suggest you move this closer to 3 because the vocals do soften a bit so i feel the distance should also
00:22:749 (1,2) - you can add a bigger jump between the two of these because "He" is really stressed and has the chime on 1 also.
00:27:614 (1,2) - same essense as above
00:30:452 (2) - why not make this slider lay down a tad bit more to help accent the vocal it is covering?

Platter

This is actually really hard for me to mod from how you map it (mainly issue with hypers to me). I would prefer that the hyper fruit itself had the chime to it, not the note you are hyper dashing to because - to me - it would accent the hypers a tad bit more

Also, how did you let mg to agree to have her pic as the background

MBomb

Topic Starter

MBomb 2015-06-27T15:42:25+00:00

DragonSlayer96 wrote:
Salad
For consistency with NC, I would suggest that you turn 00:05:317 (4) - into two circles so you can keep it so every NC is on the chime (though I think you have the slider because of the vocals though ;-; ) - In this difficulty I was just having a new NC every "line" of the song.

00:05:317 (4) - if the above suggestion is not taken, I would suggest you move this closer to 3 because the vocals do soften a bit so i feel the distance should also - This distance is already small.
00:22:749 (1,2) - you can add a bigger jump between the two of these because "He" is really stressed and has the chime on 1 also. - That's why the emphasis is on 1, not 2, with the jump.
00:27:614 (1,2) - same essense as above - ^
00:30:452 (2) - why not make this slider lay down a tad bit more to help accent the vocal it is covering? - Done.

Platter
This is actually really hard for me to mod from how you map it (mainly issue with hypers to me). I would prefer that the hyper fruit itself had the chime to it, not the note you are hyper dashing to because - to me - it would accent the hypers a tad bit more - I want the emphasis to be on the note, not on the note after the strongness.

Also, how did you let mg to agree to have her pic as the background

Thanks for the mod! Updated.

Magic Girl

224 posts

Joined August 2013

Magic Girl 2015-07-01T00:13:25+00:00

DragonSlayer96 wrote:
Cup
For consistency, add a spinner at the beginning like the other three difficulties - Fixed, as much as I didn't want it but meh

other than that, I do not see anything wrong

Also, how did you let mg to agree to have her pic as the background - Because I was the one who got the bg owo

Thanks for modding, added more hitsounds to the diffs too. ~~Bomb wake up already~~

~~The rain's offset is still the old one might wanna fix that~~

Here we go

MBomb

Topic Starter

MBomb 2015-07-01T05:54:32+00:00

Updated.

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,019 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2015-07-08T00:45:50+00:00

[General]

The dark purple combo colour isn't that good, specially when it's on grapes, as it blends too much with the left side of the BG, which is dark purple. I suggest using a lighter shade of purple, like this

[Magic Girl's Cup]

While everything is catchable without dashing, I think the combination between Circle Size and the spacing used in some parts gives this diff a lot more movement than what the atmosphere of the song suggest, specially for a Cup. Try using CS2.5, for both reducing the spacing a bit and increasing the gap between Cup - Rain (1.3 CS difference between Cup and Rain feels a bit short)
00:04:506 (2,3,4) - Maybe you can reduce the distance here so the beggining of the song isn't that rough? Try x around 456 for 00:04:912 (3) - and x around 336 for 00:05:317 (4) -
00:07:344 (3,4,1) - This could also have a little less distance. I tried x:448 for (3), x:304 for (4) and x:144 for (1) and it felt nice.
00:21:127 (1,2,3,1) - This was the place to use a little more distance, specially on 00:22:344 (3,1) - . It would really make those stronger vocals stand out!
00:27:209 (3,1) - Same, this could have a bit more distance to emphasize the vocal at (1)
00:33:695 (4,1,2,3) - If you could just reduce the distance a bit, specially to (1), it'd be great I think!

[Salad]

There are some specific patterns that feel a bit too hard for a Salad, and even more considering the relatively high CS. I suggest you change the CS to 3.
00:15:857 (1,2,3,4) - I suggest you move this to x:48. This pattern is a bit surprising considering the previous slider goes to the right, so making it a bit easier to reach wouldn't hurt.
00:26:803 (4,5,1) - Ew, no, this is the main pattern I mentioned previously. Change it for some of easier variation like you used on 00:21:939 (3,4,1) - and on 00:31:668 (3,4,1) - .
00:33:493 (3) - Moves this a bit to the left to balance the distances (not necessarily equal them). It will look better.

[Platter]

Change CS to 3.6 to balance the spread, if you changed on previous diffs.
00:06:533 (3) - Move to x:144 to make it slightly easier to catch.
00:07:344 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - Ctrl+H this whole section? This is to add some distance on 00:06:939 (4,5) - and 00:10:993 (3,4) -
00:21:939 (5,6) - It's not thaaaaaaat close to becoming an hyperdash, but if it's catches you off guard it will be a sure miss. Maybe you can move 00:21:939 (5) - to x:336 to make the jump a bit shorter and because symmetry.
00:26:803 (5,6) - On this one you could make a double hyperdash by moving (5) to x:144 and (6) to x:352
00:28:829 (4,5,1) - The distances on here feel a bit forced, maybe reduce them a bit.
00:31:669 (1,2) - Hyperdashes again :3?
00:34:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I know what you wanted to do here, but the small distance spacing on 1/1 patterns doesn't play out that good. I suggest you Ctrl+H 00:35:722 (4,5,6,7) - , then move (4) to x:400 and (8) to x:112

[STAC's Rain]

00:03:290 - It feels weird that you end the spinner here, where there's a strong vocal. I suggest you shorten the spinner a bit and add a fruit on this beat to emphasize it.
00:09:777 (4) - The angle of this slider feels weird when it's played after 00:08:966 (2,3) - . I think you can make it a bit more horizontal (like this) so it's a bit more consistent.
00:14:439 (4,5,6,7,8) - This feels a bit exaggerated for what the song is calling to, at least for me. I suggest you move 00:14:641 (5,7) - to x:280 and 00:14:844 (6) - to x:120 to reduce the distances a bit while keeping the idea.
00:22:141 (1,2,3) - This can have a bit more distance, to emphasize the vocals. Try moving (2) to x:184.
00:24:169 (3,4) - The hyperdash here feels weird, as it's on one of the weakest beats on this part. I suggest you do something like this:
SPOILER

SUBSTAC9

288 posts

Joined May 2009

SUBSTAC9 2015-07-08T09:31:19+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
[STAC's Rain]
00:03:290 - It feels weird that you end the spinner here, where there's a strong vocal. I suggest you shorten the spinner a bit and add a fruit on this beat to emphasize it. deleted spinner and added first beat at 00:03:290 .
00:09:777 (4) - The angle of this slider feels weird when it's played after 00:08:966 (2,3) - . I think you can make it a bit more horizontal (like this) so it's a bit more consistent. yeah, fix by your suggestion.
00:14:439 (4,5,6,7,8) - This feels a bit exaggerated for what the song is calling to, at least for me. I suggest you move 00:14:641 (5,7) - to x:280 and 00:14:844 (6) - to x:120 to reduce the distances a bit while keeping the idea. changed to new pattern.
00:22:141 (1,2,3) - This can have a bit more distance, to emphasize the vocals. Try moving (2) to x:184. fixed.
00:24:169 (3,4) - The hyperdash here feels weird, as it's on one of the weakest beats on this part. I suggest you do something like this:
SPOILER
fixed.

Thank you very much

SPOILER

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Magic Girl

224 posts

Joined August 2013

Magic Girl 2015-07-08T23:30:15+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
[Magic Girl's Cup]
While everything is catchable without dashing, I think the combination between Circle Size and the spacing used in some parts gives this diff a lot more movement than what the atmosphere of the song suggest, specially for a Cup. Try using CS2.5, for both reducing the spacing a bit and increasing the gap between Cup - Rain (1.3 CS difference between Cup and Rain feels a bit short) - Fixed
00:04:506 (2,3,4) - Maybe you can reduce the distance here so the beggining of the song isn't that rough? Try x around 456 for 00:04:912 (3) - and x around 336 for 00:05:317 (4) - - Fixed
00:07:344 (3,4,1) - This could also have a little less distance. I tried x:448 for (3), x:304 for (4) and x:144 for (1) and it felt nice. - Fixed
00:21:127 (1,2,3,1) - This was the place to use a little more distance, specially on 00:22:344 (3,1) - . It would really make those stronger vocals stand out! - Fixed
00:27:209 (3,1) - Same, this could have a bit more distance to emphasize the vocal at (1) - Fixed
00:33:695 (4,1,2,3) - If you could just reduce the distance a bit, specially to (1), it'd be great I think! - Fixed

Thanks for modding

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MBomb

Topic Starter

MBomb 2015-07-09T12:03:16+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
[General]
The dark purple combo colour isn't that good, specially when it's on grapes, as it blends too much with the left side of the BG, which is dark purple. I suggest using a lighter shade of purple, like this - Done.
[Salad]
There are some specific patterns that feel a bit too hard for a Salad, and even more considering the relatively high CS. I suggest you change the CS to 3. - Done.
00:15:857 (1,2,3,4) - I suggest you move this to x:48. This pattern is a bit surprising considering the previous slider goes to the right, so making it a bit easier to reach wouldn't hurt. - Only moved 1,2, because of 3 being a stronger note than 1 and so a higher distance being fitting here.
00:26:803 (4,5,1) - Ew, no, this is the main pattern I mentioned previously. Change it for some of easier variation like you used on 00:21:939 (3,4,1) - and on 00:31:668 (3,4,1) - . - Changed this around a bit.
00:33:493 (3) - Moves this a bit to the left to balance the distances (not necessarily equal them). It will look better. - Done.
[Platter]
Change CS to 3.6 to balance the spread, if you changed on previous diffs. - Done.
00:06:533 (3) - Move to x:144 to make it slightly easier to catch. - Done.
00:07:344 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - Ctrl+H this whole section? This is to add some distance on 00:06:939 (4,5) - and 00:10:993 (3,4) - - Done.
00:21:939 (5,6) - It's not thaaaaaaat close to becoming an hyperdash, but if it's catches you off guard it will be a sure miss. Maybe you can move 00:21:939 (5) - to x:336 to make the jump a bit shorter and because symmetry. - Done.
00:26:803 (5,6) - On this one you could make a double hyperdash by moving (5) to x:144 and (6) to x:352 - I initially thought about this, but thought it may be too difficult, but it looks fine to me.
00:28:829 (4,5,1) - The distances on here feel a bit forced, maybe reduce them a bit. - Feels fine to me.
00:31:669 (1,2) - Hyperdashes again :3? - Fine, just for you ;3
00:34:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I know what you wanted to do here, but the small distance spacing on 1/1 patterns doesn't play out that good. I suggest you Ctrl+H 00:35:722 (4,5,6,7) - , then move (4) to x:400 and (8) to x:112 - Changed this around a bit, but not exactly how you said, I prefer this way.

Thanks for the mod!

Spectator

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

1,780 posts

Joined February 2011

Spectator 2015-07-19T06:22:04+00:00

STAC's Rain

00:25:587 (6,7,8,9,10) - the jumps here don't fit the best as vocal is weak here. I'd reduce the distance slightly
00:27:412 (4,5) - The jump here is very harsh. At least there should be a hdash imo
00:37:344 (1) - How about moving this to x:110 for the consistency of distances?
00:43:223 (4,5) - These notes can be moved to about x:340. It makes the movement a bit better actually

SUBSTAC9

288 posts

Joined May 2009

SUBSTAC9 2015-07-20T11:34:56+00:00

Spectator wrote:

STAC's Rain
00:25:587 (6,7,8,9,10) - the jumps here don't fit the best as vocal is weak here. I'd reduce the distance slightly fixed
00:27:412 (4,5) - The jump here is very harsh. At least there should be a hdash imo fixed
00:37:344 (1) - How about moving this to x:110 for the consistency of distances? fixed
00:43:223 (4,5) - These notes can be moved to about x:340. It makes the movement a bit better actually done

Thank you very much Specsan

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MBomb

Topic Starter

MBomb 2015-07-27T14:56:34+00:00

Sorry for the delay, my computer broke for a few days. Updated.

Spectator

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

1,780 posts

Joined February 2011

Spectator 2015-07-28T03:31:17+00:00

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,019 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2015-07-28T03:40:06+00:00

Placeholder for a recheck :3

[

General]

Shouldn't Source be 魔法少女まどか☆マギカ? (got it from english Wiki, but I guess it's correct). I'm not good with this japanese stuff :^(

[

Salad]

00:04:100 (2) - Even though the jump fits, I think it's better to reduce this distance so you don't start right away with a jump. x:272 seems fine.
00:06:128 (1,2,3) - Maybe move this to x:368 so the first time it appears it isn't that harsh? I'd also move 00:06:533 (3) - to x:384
00:17:074 (4) - How about x:400 for this one?
00:25:182 (1,2,3) - Move to x:160? Somehow the distance feels weird to me.
00:28:020 (2,3,4) - Move this a bit closer to previous note?
00:32:885 (2) - Move this to x:240, it's better a bit closer to next note.
00:40:182 (3) - Reduce the distance with previous note. I get the idea, but it doesn't feel so good.
00:42:614 (2) - ^Same

[

Platter]

00:04:912 (5,6) - This flows bad. The slider to the right, then a jump to the right ending on a hyperdash to the left, it just plays akward. Since you can't move 00:05:317 (6) - to the left because it takes out the hyperdash, I suggest you move 00:03:290 (1,2,3,4) - to x:264 and 00:04:912 (5) - to x:424
00:06:128 (2,3) - How about x:248 for (2) and x:160 for (3) for a bit less movement after the first hyperdash?
00:13:425 (2,3) - x:232 for this?

[

Rain]

00:04:912 (5) - How about you Ctrl+G this and then move it to x:88? I think it flows a little bit better.
00:09:777 (4) - Move this around x:376 so the jump to this isn't that hard.
00:35:317 (6,3,3) - These all flow better if oriented to the same direction as the jump before them. Sooo, 00:35:317 (6) - Ctrl+H and move back to x:104, 00:36:533 (3) - Ctrl+H and move to x:400, 00:37:749 (3) - Ctrl+H and move to x:112.

MBomb

Topic Starter

MBomb 2015-07-29T15:23:01+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
Placeholder for a recheck :3

[ General]
Shouldn't Source be 魔法少女まどか☆マギカ? (got it from english Wiki, but I guess it's correct). I'm not good with this japanese stuff :^(- I took the source from the recently ranked map of the same song, so it should be fine.

[ Salad]

00:04:100 (2) - Even though the jump fits, I think it's better to reduce this distance so you don't start right away with a jump. x:272 seems fine. - Done.
00:06:128 (1,2,3) - Maybe move this to x:368 so the first time it appears it isn't that harsh? I'd also move 00:06:533 (3) - to x:384 - Moved the pattern, but kept 3 at x:400.
00:17:074 (4) - How about x:400 for this one? - Done.
00:25:182 (1,2,3) - Move to x:160? Somehow the distance feels weird to me. - I like this, and I think the dashes fit, so no changes.
00:28:020 (2,3,4) - Move this a bit closer to previous note? - Done.
00:32:885 (2) - Move this to x:240, it's better a bit closer to next note. - Done.
00:40:182 (3) - Reduce the distance with previous note. I get the idea, but it doesn't feel so good. - Reduced a bit more.
00:42:614 (2) - ^Same - ^

[ Platter]
00:04:912 (5,6) - This flows bad. The slider to the right, then a jump to the right ending on a hyperdash to the left, it just plays akward. Since you can't move 00:05:317 (6) - to the left because it takes out the hyperdash, I suggest you move 00:03:290 (1,2,3,4) - to x:264 and 00:04:912 (5) - to x:424 - Done.
00:06:128 (2,3) - How about x:248 for (2) and x:160 for (3) for a bit less movement after the first hyperdash? - Done.
00:13:425 (2,3) - x:232 for this? - x:240 instead

Thanks for the recheck!

SUBSTAC9

288 posts

Joined May 2009

SUBSTAC9 2015-07-30T08:59:39+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
[ Rain]
00:04:912 (5) - How about you Ctrl+G this and then move it to x:88? I think it flows a little bit better. OK
00:09:777 (4) - Move this around x:376 so the jump to this isn't that hard.fixed
00:35:317 (6,3,3) - These all flow better if oriented to the same direction as the jump before them. Sooo, 00:35:317 (6) - Ctrl+H and move back to x:104, 00:36:533 (3) - Ctrl+H and move to x:400, 00:37:749 (3) - Ctrl+H and move to x:112. nice Idea but I try to make new flow is better than.

thank you very much

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