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Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size)

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Mok
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Mok
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mercoledì 27 ottobre 2010 at 22:43:27

Artist: Kinya Kotani
Title: BLAZE (TV Size)
Source: Tsubasa Chronicle
Tags: CLAMP Lissette Lizbeth Armin
BPM: 130
Filesize: 19651kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Armin's Normal (3,95 stars, 139 notes)
  2. Hard (4,83 stars, 236 notes)
  3. Lissette's Easy (0,95 stars, 68 notes)
  4. Lizbeth's Insane (4,93 stars, 215 notes)
Download: Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size)
Download: Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size) (no video)
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First opening of the anime Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE.
[Lissette's Easy] (Guest's Easy) by Lissette.
[Armin's Normal] (Guest's Normal) by Armin.
[Hard] by me, tmokb93.
[Lizbeth's Insane] (Guest's Insane) by Lizbeth.
Some skins part from Lizbeth's skin, thanks!
Hitsounds for [Armin's Normal] by Garven <3.
Hitsounds by Lissette-chan <3, please enjoy!
Last edited by Mok , edited 42 times in total.
hime_nikki04
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hime_nikki04
I really like this song... Let's see...

Normal:
The sliders at 01:10:260 and 01:11:183 should last a beat longer.
Delete the single note at 01:14:876... it seems pointless.
The sliders at 01:21:799 and 01:23:183 should both last a beat longer.

Hard:
This seems too hard to just be a "hard" level...
The cluster of single notes at 00:49:722 should be spread out more.
The notes beginning at 00:52:953 are way too far apart.

Overall, amazing map! I really enjoyed playing this through... star ~
Lizbeth
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Lizbeth
Nice! I really like it <3
I'm working on my diff, I'll submit soon, (I haven't forgot =P)

star!
Lizbeth
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Lizbeth
Done <3
hope you like it!

About the hitsounds.. I use normal-hitnormal instead of soft-hitclap, Can you add it to the folder? =3

Download: Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size) (tmokb93) [Lizbeth's Insane].osu
Lissette
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Lissette
my diff

Download: Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size) (tmokb93) [Lissette's Easy].osu
Lissette
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Lissette
Hard +
00:22:260 (5) - separate a bit more from 4
00:27:799 - add note (whistle)
00:32:414 (7) - separate a bit more from 6 (see time line)
00:32:645 (1,2,3,4) - this sound a bit off, try this:00:32:760 (2) - move to next red tick, 00:33:106 (3) - move to prev blue tick (whistle) and 00:33:337 - add note (whistle)
00:34:030 - add note
00:45:337 (1) - remove this note
00:45:568 (1,2,3) - move these three notes half beat earlier (1 in red tick)
00:46:260 (1,1,1) - select them together and then reverse, so the first note is in the middle, easier to read
00:51:799 (6) - new combo
01:01:722 (3,4,5) - move 4 to 01:01:953 after 5, will be a 1/4 stream, cuz 1/8 stream is too hard to read @.@
01:21:337 (5) - separate away from 4 (see time line)
01:31:491 (1,2,3,4) - spacing? (see time line)
remember to fix spacing after change ^^

Normal
00:40:260 (4) - move to prev red tick (stack under prev slider end point)
01:03:106 (1) - make it end at 01:04:030 - then put finish in the middle point
01:10:953 - add note with finish
01:14:876 (5) - move to prev white tick

also here ara the normal hitsounds ><

Download: Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size) (tmokb93) [Normal].osu
Kecco
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Kecco
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Mianki
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Mianki
Suggestions on blue

Normal:

This diff needs some hitsounds. I'm not good at them, so not gonna suggest anything
01:03:106 (1) Either shorten this slider a tick and add reverse arrow, or make it a tick longer

Hard+:

Felt a bit twicthy, maybe easen some jumps?
00:27:799 Add circle here
01:00:106 (1.2.3.4.5.6) This pattern is kinda hard to see
01:12:568 (1) This slow slider was a bit random

Other diffs were fine
Star~
Mogsy
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Here since the beginning
Mogsy
Revived. Might mod this later.
Yuji Tokaji
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Yuji Tokaji
Hey,

[Overall]

- Add Lissette & Lizbeth in a tags box.

[Lissette's Easy]

- 00:59:645(3) : Finish it ?

[Normal]

- 00:43:722(1) : Start at 00:43:491 ?
- 00:44:645(1) : Start at 00:44:414 ?
- 00:45:568(1) : Start at 00:45:337 ?
- 01:12:106(4) : Move back to the white tick and Finish it ?
- 01:12:568(5) : New combo.

[Hard +]

- 01:27:568(2) : Finish it ?

[Lizbeth's Insane]

Great !


That's it.
Pretty song & map !
Star !
Mok
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Mok
Thanks! :D
Armin
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Armin
Ah si dicevo che l'offset è proprio bello da calcolare


non è vero
lovhin456
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lovhin456
Hi ~

General;
- Change the color of the spinner circle ??
- Add the name of the main characters to the tags ??
- Why doesn't all diff end at the same point ??

Lissette's Easy;
- 00:19:307 >> remove whistle, add finish
- 00:38:230 (4)(5) >> these two look bad stacked while playing, unstack them
- 00:49:769 >> would sound better if you put a slider that starts here and ends at 00:50:230
- 01:03:154 >> ... I think kiai time starts here
- If you changed the kiai time like I said ^, then move all notes from 01:03:615 to 01:10:077 to where the kiai time starts, you know move them in groups. (If you change the kiai time here, you have to change it in all diff.)
- If you did that ^, then add a note at 01:10:538
- Silence the last spinner completely ??

Normal;
- 00:51:154 >> wouldl sound better if it reversed at 00:51:615
- 00:53:00 >> would sound better if it reversed at 00:53:461
- Silence the last spinner completely ??

Hard +;
- I can't really mod hard, hard+ or insane but I'll try to do combo and sound mod.
- 01:37:307 >> move to 01:37:077
- 01:37:769 >> move to 01:37:307, then make it a slider that ends at 01:37:769 with finish
- 01:38:000 (1)(2)(3) >> make them gradually lower the sound so that (3) will be silenced

Insane;
- 01:22:307 >> 2 grids left
- Silence the last spinner completely ??

* Star ~
Lissette
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meow~

thanks for modding lovhin456, did some of your suggestions :3

Download: Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size) (tmokb93) [Lissette's Easy].osu
Lizbeth
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Lizbeth
Fixed <3

Download: Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size) (tmokb93) [Lizbeth's Insane].osu
Mok
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Mok
Moved to WIP :)
Armin
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Armin
towoku sorano

Download: Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size) (Mok) [tag4 impossible].osu
Mok
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Mok
Re-pended.
Garven
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Your hitsounded diff as requested. It's okay, but eh.

Don't forget the kiai mention as well~

And as a quick mod:

[Armin's Normal]
00:15:615 - There were two timing sections here from a different diff, but I deleted them for you. :P
01:14:461 (6) - Is this aligned where you intended?
01:14:461 - Did you mean to stop kiai here and restart it at 01:17:923 - ?
01:26:692 - Delete this break.

Download: Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size) (Mok) [Armin's Normal].osu
Mafiamaster
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Mafiamaster
Missing elements you need in the folder:
hitcircleoverlay
approachcircle
cursortrail

320kbps for an mp3 is unrankable. Reduce it to 256kbps. Offset may change.

The file sizes on "Senza titolo-1" and "spinner-background" are pretty big. Reduce the size so it's below 1MB.

[Hard +]
Remove the space between Hard and +.
00:49:769 (1,2) - Nazi: Move a tick down so the whole stream is even.
00:51:846 (6) - New combo?
01:01:722 (3,4,5) - What happened here?
01:26:692 (2,3) - Confusing spacing.
01:33:153 (3) - Move closer to 2?

[Insane]
00:56:692 (3) - Add a finish at the very end?
01:13:538 (7) - New combo.
Mafiamaster
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Mafiamaster
[Hard+]
01:29:461 (1) - Silence this spinner.

Change offset to 9,191. Resnap all notes and make sure that no notes are off.
Bob Lennon_old
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8-) star~~~~~~~
Mok
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Mok

Bob Lennon wrote:

8-) star~~~~~~~
Thanks :D
Mafiamaster
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Bubbled!
lovhin456
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lovhin456
Hey ~

Skin;
- Your comboburst have some not necessary tansparency, I fixed them
SPOILER


General;
- Umm, countdown for this song doesn't fit imo
- Lead-in of 500 for all diff ??

Lissette;s Easy;
- 00:37:344 (3,4,5) >> (4,5) are not stacked well under (3)
- 01:33:191 >> kiai time ends here, or make it end on the note you want, but end it on a note.

Armin's Normal;
- 01:03:191 >> kiai time starts here
- 01:33:191 >> kiai time ends here, or make it end on the note you want but end it on a note.
- Use the colors you have for easy, hard+ and insane for this diff. too

Hard+;
- Umm, make kiai time the same as normal, easy ??

Insane;
- No kiai time ??

:3

Last edited by lovhin456 , edited 1 time in total.
Mok
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Mok

lovhin456 wrote:

Hey ~

Skin;
- Your comboburst have some not necessary tansparency, I fixed them
SPOILER
[attachment=1:2dab2]comboburst-1.png[/attachment:2dab2]
[attachment=0:2dab2]comboburst-0.png[/attachment:2dab2]

General;
- Umm, countdown for this song doesn't fit imo
- Lead-in of 500 for all diff ??

Lissette;s Easy;
- 00:37:344 (3,4,5) >> (4,5) are not stacked well under (3)
- 01:33:191 >> kiai time ends here, or make it end on the note you want, but end it on a note.

Armin's Normal;
- 01:03:191 >> kiai time starts here
- 01:33:191 >> kiai time ends here, or make it end on the note you want but end it on a note.
- Use the colors you have for easy, hard+ and insane for this diff. too

Hard+;
- Umm, make kiai time the same as normal, easy ??

Insane;
- No kiai time ??

:3
Sorry but i think it is okay as it is, beacuse kiai time is the same everywehre, and the no kiai it's a liz's choise.
cesc
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cesc
Go Go Mok! :D
~star
Larto
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Larto
Overall:
The mp3 sounds terribly cut off at the end. Try to get a better one?

Lizbeth's Insane:
01:12:652 (5,6,1,2) - Don't overlap sliders like that.. while it's sort of readable here, it's just not a good idea in general and should be avoided.


Hard+:
The + in the difficulty name just looks silly. Mind removing it and just calling it Hard?
The spacing in 90% of this map is just hardly readable.. In the intro, I can't even quite figure out what you mapped to.
Spacing like this
00:11:268 (1,2,3) -
00:14:268 (1,2,3) -
01:20:960 (4,5) -
01:23:614 (1,2,3,4) -
just does not make sense at all. I don't mind crazy spacing if it actually suits the song. This doesn't.
Additionally, the map is terribly clustered as 90% of the notes are placed in the middle and close to the middle.
This, and the overall unreadableness of this map makes me almost want to nuke this.
Please, please, for the love of god, be more careful with your spacing in the future.
You can bitch at me for this post as much as you want, in case you do, but I'm just doing my job, and I've been doing it well for almost two years now, so...

Armin's Normal:
Fine, though the combos show some inconsistancies. That's probably for the sake of the patterns, so I'll let it fly.

Lissete's Easy:
Fine
Mok
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Mok
Uhps. Have forgotten to say that i've updated >.<
Jarby
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Jarby
Offset should be 10,114. You don't need to resnap, this just fixes the menu strobe/metronome. The kiai ends suddenly in all difficulties that have it except Easy. I think you should follow Lissette's lead and make the kiai time last until the end of the map (or at least until the last spinner).

Armin's Normal:

I really dislike the way it starts before all the other difficulties. The big break will only frustrate players that fail the map and need to retry several times to complete it.

Hard:

Raise hitsound volume, I feel it's far too subtle, particularly in the first section
00:12:768 (2) - 1/4 back, respacing. Doesn't make sense where it is at the moment.
00:17:844 (1) - As above. Also get rid of the silly jumps and arrange the new combos so you don't have three in a row pointlessly.
00:27:883 (8) - Spacing incorrectly. Should be half that distance apart from 7 or simply stacked on it.
01:01:576 (2,3,4,5,6) - Suddenly, the spacing decreased by half! That's really confusing, please change it.
01:18:421 - Maybe add a circle here? The spacing between 01:18:191 (3,4) led me to believe they would be 1/2 apart considering the previous combos. Adding a circle would help avoid confusion.
01:23:498 (1,2,3,4) - Horizontally flip, I'd say. The start of the combo overlaps with the previous combo and again leads you to believe the spacing is different.
01:25:114 (3,1) - Again with the overlapping combos and spacing misconceptions, just drag the entire blue combo down and the white combo up.
01:28:114 (1,2,3) - Very misleading spacing. You could stack the 2 at the start of 3 for an easy fix.
Lizbeth
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Lizbeth
Here you go~ ^^

Download: Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size) (Mok) [Lizbeth's Insane].osu
Mok
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Mok
Updated, Armin has chosen to leave his difficulty as it is, please understand.
Sakura
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[General]
White combo color can be blinding during kiai time, change it to something else please (and dont use gray combo color either if you were planning to change it to that)

[Lizbeth's Insane]
00:17:498 (1,2,3,4) - I'm quite doubtful if theese are reasonable jumps or not.
00:33:652 (1,2) - ^
01:23:498 (6) - Stack properly below the slider?

[Hard]
00:14:730 (3,1) - This jumps feel unintuitive, i recommend you reverse the combo (1) forms part of.
00:31:114 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I would prefer if theese were more symmetrical, you can still keep your stack if you use (5) as the middle point.
00:38:730 (2) - Patterns over the music? this slider makes zero sense to me musically, i recommend you rethink this section. Mok is changing this apparently.
01:08:499 (1,2) - Spacing too close i'd prefer if you swap theese 2 with a reverse selection, then make (2) into a new combo if you wish to keep this cross.
01:21:422 (5) - This Anti-Jump is really unintuitive

[Armin's Normal]
I recommend you use slider tick rate: 2 to fix some awkward ticks on some sliders
I would prefer if you started your map at the same spot as the other difficulties
Use the custom colors of the other diffs?

[Lissette's Easy]
00:37:344 (3,4,5) - I recommend you unstack (4,5) from this at least, since the stack not only is uneven but stacked notes at the end of sliders are like invisible for newbies.
Lissette
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Sakura Hana wrote:

[Lissette's Easy]
00:37:344 (3,4,5) - I recommend you unstack (4,5) from this at least, since the stack not only is uneven but stacked notes at the end of sliders are like invisible for newbies.
kk, kinda agree ^^

here is my fix, hehe I don't want to ruin symmetry *.*

PS: liked the new BGs and colors <3

Download: Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size) (Mok) [Lissette's Easy].osu
Lizbeth
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Sakura Hana wrote:

[Lizbeth's Insane]
00:17:498 (1,2,3,4) - I'm quite doubtful if theese are reasonable jumps or not. Gonna keep those
00:33:652 (1,2) - ^ Agree, Fixed
01:23:498 (6) - Stack properly below the slider? Fixed
Thanks for modding Sakura Hana ^^

Here's the fixed version <3

Download: Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size) (Mok) [Lizbeth's Insane].osu
gregar55
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Awesome map!
Star~
Diasios
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Diasios
Autoritaglia il "comboburst-0.png" usando photoshop o gimp visto che l'immagine ha una trasparenza non necessaria.

[Armin's Normal]

Rimuovi il countdown visto che è inutilizzato.
00:42:883 (2) - Fai finire questo slider sul tick rosso (00:43:114)
00:44:729 (6) - ^ (00:44:960)

[Hard]

Hai messo un pò troppe "New combo", cerci di eliminarne qualcuna.
Ti consiglio di rimuovere tutti (o quasi) gli jump, non mi piacciono sopratutto perchè credo che siano troppo esagerato se messi a confronto allo spacing che hai utilizzato normalmente (si vede dalla primissima parte della diff che hai scelto di mappare questa diff con una "piccola" distanza fra i cerchi, secondo me è meglio mapparla tutta seguendo questo stile senza troppi cambiamenti di spacing che, fidati, confondono parecchio)
Mashley
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Hard
Spacing on Hard is really inconsistent. Stuff like this:


Just doesn't seem right. Keep it consistent.
Mapping seems really enclosed to the centre. Spread it out more for extra variety.
00:33:076 (3,4,5) - Don't like how you stacked this
01:02:614 (1,2,3,1,2) - ^
00:45:422 (1,1,2,3,1,1) - Random and pointless jump. Also I don't like how many new combos there are here.
00:51:422 (5) - Another random jump
00:58:114 (4) - ^
01:02:614 (1) - ^
01:16:807 (1,1,1,1) - ^
01:09:653 (1,2,3,4,5) - Spacing is off (Did you even attempt to use distance snap?)

Other diffs are fine, just hard needs some work.
Louis Cyphre
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Louis Cyphre
[Lizbeth's Insane]
01:19:787 (1) - Confusion. How to guess where is start?

[Hard]
00:19:344 - finish hitsound
00:21:190 - ^
00:33:883 - 2 grids left
00:51:883 - remove new combo
00:55:575 - 1 grid up
01:08:498 - remove new combo
01:09:883 (3,4) - 1 grid left
01:10:114 - (5) - 2 girds left (stream would be perfect)
01:33:190 - remove finish

[Normal]
00:59:960 - may replace slider add spinner?
01:26:729 - add spinner?
Lizbeth
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Lizbeth

Louis Cyphre wrote:

[Lizbeth's Insane]
01:19:787 (1) - Confusion. How to guess where is start?
I don't understand, can you explain better? >.<
yeahyeahyeahhh
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yeahyeahyeahhh
irc modded. GL good sir.
Louis Cyphre
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Louis Cyphre
I don't understand, can you explain better? >.<
My mistake, sorry, This moment: 01:20:729


While playing, Slider start is hidden. Player won't know where is the begin starts in that slider, that's why it's confusion =/
Lizbeth
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Ok got it, I placed better

Download: Kinya Kotani - BLAZE (TV Size) (Mok) [Lizbeth's Insane].osu
mrtn
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bubbled
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Although the source is technically correct: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmaplist&s=4&r=0 ... 0&g=0&la=0 Source should be Tsubasa Chronicle for consistency with other ranked maps, sorry but i have to pop it, since maps should keep the same source as the rest of the ranked maps for consistency

also:

[Hard]
00:38:730 (1) - Slider isn't following the music
Firo Prochainezo
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Sakura Hana wrote:

Although the source is technically correct: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmaplist&s=4&r=0 ... 0&g=0&la=0 Source should be Tsubasa Chronicle for consistency with other ranked maps, sorry but i have to pop it, since maps should keep the same source as the rest of the ranked maps for consistency

also:

[Hard]
00:38:730 (1) - Slider isn't following the music
lolwut
Sakura
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Alright, an offset adjustment due to new mp3 and a new combo and BAM
Rebubbled~
Mafiamaster
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Missing clap was added on Insane.
Ranked.
Firo Prochainezo
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Yay, congratulations Mok!
lovhin456
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Congrats :3
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