yugijedi wrote:

NC at SV changes is necessary

CoLouRed GlaZeE wrote:

A new modder ;w; M4M

[General]
Offset: 538 is best. Offset I have is from Chloe's ranked set, it's the same mp3 file

[Normal]
00:10:368 (3,4,1) - Please separate them.No
00:27:210 (3) - Put it here. x: 328 y: 200. Mine's better
00:28:263 (4) - Please ctrl+> and put it here x: 52 y: 296. The back of their set. ^ ^ No, mine's best
00:48:965 (5) - I don't think it looks good. Can you pull it back again? No

[Hard]
AR-0.1. Nope
DS???? But you can not do it. I think DS must be consistent. Not for a Hard

[Luminosity]
WoW this jump hahahaha. hahahaha.
OD-0.5? qwq Nope

Good map, good luck

yugijedi wrote:

yasoras Insane

00:11:596 (7,1) - triplet? come on that's an insane ok

NC at SV changes is necessary I did that right q_q

CoLouRed GlaZeE wrote:

[Yasora's Insane]
00:10:719 (5,6,7) - Try use blanket. So 00:11:421 (6,7) - move to x: 188 y: 352. no hehe

MkGuh wrote:

Just one thing i want to say: Yasora's diff is missing video

UndeadCapulet wrote:

MkGuh wrote:

Just one thing i want to say: Yasora's diff is missing video

/sigh
i had a feeling that was going to happen
fixed, thanks

Yasora wrote:

pfft~ I'm sorry lol

jonawaga wrote:

Hey~ M4M on this queue. Feel free not to mod back if this isn't so helpful.
Nevermind, I started this before you closed it. Thanks for posting anyway, sorry about that, real busy right now ;c

Normal

1. 00:24:052 (3) - Curve this like this or this. Goes against my intentions with that slider. The long held note demands a long straight slider imo
2. 00:40:894 (2) - Make it so the red tick happens 00:41:951 - here or 00:41:772 - here. Not a bad idea, but DS alongside the way these sliders are currently arranged makes that rather impossible (and honestly I don't really want to do that here anyway, part of me feels deliberately not emphasizing beats with slider elbows is the right to be doing idk my brain works in weird ways sometimes)
3. 00:46:508 (2) - Same idea as ^^^, make the red tick happen 00:46:859 - here. Fixed this one though
4. 01:05:105 (1,2) - Fix the blanket, if this is a blanket. If not, make it look less like a blanket. Made it look less like a blanket

Hard

1. 00:02:649 (6) - Curve this out a bit more to fix the blanket. This one's fine I think
2. 00:04:052 (2) - Move this a bit lower, if you do, move all 00:04:052 (2,3,4,1) - this the same amount lower. Nope, not a fan of completely straight paths like that, just a stylistic preference
3. 00:07:736 (5,6,7,8) - The overlap of 5 and 8 looks unintentional, please fix it. It's definitely intentional
4. 00:48:965 (3) - I don't think the slider should start here. Try starting the slider 00:48:789 - here, like this. Giving more emphasis to the instrumental here, stacking the start of a vocal note on top of a slider needed for instrumental emphasis also gives off a vocal hold effect (it may end up a weaker hold but it's a better rhythm in the long run imo)
5. 01:04:754 (8,1) - Fix blanket, the end is too far out. Made it look less like a blanket and to better show it's supposed to be a completely seamless flow into 2

Extra

1. 00:17:912 (2) - Stack this on top of 2 instead of under 1. Not too sure what you're suggesting, but regardless I definitely want 2 stacked under 1's tail
2. 00:21:421 (5,1,2) - Place 5 and 2 a bit farther away from the purple 3,or stack it. Did something similar (overlapsss)
3. 00:40:368 (2) - Stack this on top of 2 instead of under 1. Same as before, I definitely want it there, I'm deliberately emphasizing the slidertails, it's a pretty common practice to do so

I hope this helps. Good Luck~!!

jonawaga wrote:

Yasora's Insane

1. Fix the tags. Look at this.
2. 00:25:631 (9,1) - Fix blanket, and stack 9 on top of 1. If this isn't a blanket, then make it look less like a blanket. no blanket and it fine for me hehe
3. 01:13:351 (8,1) - Stack 8 on top of 1. no
4. 01:28:965 (4) - Remove this, there isn't a sound here. the vocalist still let out her sound

1. Around 00:55:807

1. 00:04:754 (4) - clap
2. 01:05:807 (3) - you need finish here

1. 00:13:701 (5) - stack sama 00:12:824 (3) - (tail)
2. 00:28:438 (9) - normal? gantikan samplesetnya jadi Auto (soal ny g ad suara drum tu)
3. 00:58:438 (5) - clap ny buang dong
4. 01:04:052 (5) - ^
5. 01:09:666 (5) - ^

1. 00:09:315 (3) - the slider speed must be 1x
2. 00:45:807 (3) - stack with 00:45:456 (1) -
3. 01:19:140 (1) - it should be on blue tick, rather than using a note with a slider that reaches at yellow tick

-Hakurei- wrote:

hi. from your queue

[The spot for Preview Timing]

1. Around 00:55:807 No thanks

[Hard]

1. 00:04:754 (4) - clap Fixed
2. 01:05:807 (3) - you need finish here Sounds good

[Extra]

1. 00:09:315 (3) - the slider speed must be 1x Fixed
2. 00:45:807 (3) - stack with 00:45:456 (1) - No
3. 01:19:140 (1) - it should be on blue tick, rather than using a note with a slider that reaches at yellow tick Not what I'm looking for

GL!

LucaSA4 wrote:

Hello , you are the next from my modding queue! Late, but it's there!

• Normal

  00:03:351 (1) - I think this spinner is too short for a Normal, unexperienced players may die here It should be fine
  00:10:368 (3,4,1) - Isn't this DS inconsistency? Stacking in Normals is fine
  00:22:298 (3) - It's not 100% parallel with 00:21:245 (2) - Tried my best to fix it
  00:48:965 (5) - This slider is kinda odd o rly
  01:24:052 (4,1) - This overlap doesn't feels good No, it's amazing
  01:27:210 (4) - ^ Changed

• Hard

  00:39:842 (1) - This blanket is tinely off, if you look the approach circle, the end of the slider is a bit off uhh this blanket is pretty much perfect
  00:58:263 (6) - Blanket off (if this isn't a blanket nvm) It's fine

• Extra

  00:37:561 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - This is a bit hard to read for a Insane of 4.8 (No it's not Extra, it's Insane!!) No, it's not Insane, it's Extra!! CS5, OD9, very high spacing, tricky to read patterns, etc. Everyone knows difficulty rating is broken and flawed. Especially if you compare the difficulty of this map to any other set of this song, this is way harder than the usual "Insane".

Sorry for small modding, good mapset, GL. That's it

HappyRocket88 wrote:

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General

1. According to the spread, you might need an Easy diff in your mapset as same happened in this ranked version My Normal difficulty fits the difficulty requirements of an Easy difficulty, so an Easy is not needed
2. You can make the normal "harder" to fix the gap between the hard and the normal. hmm I think the gap is fine?
3. You can include this in tags: added, thanks
   
   SPOILER

   エメ eme aimerrhythm 2nd Season opening type-moon フェイト/ステイナイト DefSTAR RECORDS notes aniplex saber ufotable Hisashi Koyama Kenji Tamai Shogo Ohnishi

Normal

1. 00:17:386 (1,2) Personally I dislike overlaps in Easier diffs. Personally I like overlaps in Easier diffs.
2. 00:27:210 (3,4) ^ The flow here isn't good too. I wouldn't recomment to set a downbeat in this part. I'd rather emphasize the white big tick The flow here is very good because I'm teaching new players about slider leniency. The player will want to linger over the 4 as long as possible, similar to how the vocals linger into the next downbeat (and as you can see, the 4 slider is mapping the vocals). The overlap here serves to keep the vocals from feeling like they stand alone; the vocals are connecting the downbeat to the ending of the measure, that's all they do. So, I've connected the 4 slider to the 3 slider with an overlap. The repeat snaps the player back into the direction they were traveling originally, the same way the vocals snap the downbeat into place, after the long held notes finished trailing off.
3. 00:20:193 (1,2) Ugh... this doesn't feel to be good in this normal. Try to make a symmetric pattern between these two sliders. 00:20:193 (1,2,3) - are all aligned together (also symmetries are gross )
4. 00:40:894 (2) Fix this slider shape. I don't know, try something more common to see in normal diffs to improve the readability in the whole diff. Maybe you can try this: Your design creates too much movement for what this part of the song calls for, with all the curving around. I've tried to make sliders that "feel" like the song, not so much sliders that look nice
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 00:48:965 (5) Same. Again too much movement for me.
   
   SPOILER

   
6. 00:53:877 (1) I think a 1/4 slider would fit better here. Like this: Not a bad idea, but I'm not too big a fan of it because it causes the vocals to come across as disjointed from the instrumental. I'll think about, but I'll probably stick with just a circle
   
   SPOILER

   
7. 01:10:017 (4,1) Bad overlap. Try to make the (1) slider more curve. Nope, I like this
8. 01:12:122 (3,4,1,2) The flow here isn't good for normal players. Try something more intuitive. 3,4 is fine, I do similar things throughout the diff. 4,1 is also fine, flow comes back the other direction because of a new downbeat. I adjusted the 1,2 flow to make it less "harsh"

Hard

I like this hard a lot Nothing to complain about this diff. yay

Sorry I can't mod "extras" Even knowing the random jumps you manage on it. that's fine


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-Kanzaki wrote:

General :

• 
  
  00:17:386 - 00:39:842 - At this section use the same drum clap hitsound at the objects that you used your other custom softclap. That drum clap fits better. Too noisy imo, I'd rather the softer clap for the slow parts
  
  For extra diff the overlaps and some stacks are really be all fur coat and no knickers (I just find this idiom on the internet lol.) lol
  
  Widescreen support on in every diff expect the extra diff fix it. oops

Hard :

• 
  
  01:27:210 (9) - I don't recommend that much reverse maybe use 2 normal sliders here. hmm it's fine
  
  00:05:339 (1) - this one should start at 00:05:456 is it unsnapped or something? 1/6 snap
  
  00:55:924 (1) - ^ - 00:55:982 ^
  
  00:16:508 (6) - add circle not a bad idea, but i'd rather the slowdown effect of the reduced singletap at this point
  
  00:43:701 (2) - change here 00:43:701 (2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/iL8R0/3b5d73f958.jpg again, that's nice and all, but this part's really slow, i don't want that much clicking
  
  00:46:508 (2) - and here feels some empty as well try this 00:46:333 (2,3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/iL91a/6dc6d3a9e5.jpg ^
  
  00:48:614 (1,2) - change this to only a 1/4 slider sound better. i agree
  
  01:23:877 (8) - NC at here and dont NC 01:24:754 (1) I see what you're saying, but I'd rather NC on the finish/downbeat

1. 00:27:736 - Adding a note here is highly recommended, although I see you are following the drums, but both 00:27:386 (1,2) - are following the ringing sounds and the drums, and it makes the pattern a bit awkward. If you want to emphasize the drums more than the ringing sound, then make 00:27:561 (2) - a 1/4 slider, and this way the ringing sounds won't be ignored but the drums are emphasized by pressing on them.
2. 00:43:351 (2) - Ctrl + G would be cool, emphasizes the ringing a bit better and creates a nicer pattern with consistency from before.
3. 00:47:736 (3) - Remove whistle from head, feels unnecessary.
4. 00:53:175 (1,1,1) - This is overdone, the drums are not that strong, I warn you that this pattern might relate to a disqualification if you keep it.
5. 00:53:877 (1,2) - In relation to the previous note, a huge jump like before would fit here much more.
6. 00:55:748 (1) - I don't think putting a note on the singer's voice when she's inhaling is a good idea.
7. 01:27:736 (1) - Unnecessary overmap.
8. 01:28:789 (1) - Some kind of finish is recommended.

1. 00:08:789 (7) - Blanket could be improved a bit.
2. 00:48:789 (2) - The whistle on head on this slider doesn't sound fitting that much, try to find some other hitsound.
3. 00:53:877 (1,2,1,2,3) - The spacing change is absurd, especially because the diff is relatively easy, please be more considerate with the spacing changes here.
4. 01:27:561 (2,1) - The 1/12 tick between them is a bit too small.. Also I am pretty sure that there's nothing on 01:27:561 (2) - 's end. The huge jump is unexpected and doesn't play that well.
5. 01:28:965 (4) - This note feels a bit forced, the map should end on a relatively strong note, or before. Which is 01:28:789 (3) -, if you do that, please add a finish as well.

Avishay wrote:

As requested,

[Extra]

1. 00:27:736 - Adding a note here is highly recommended, although I see you are following the drums, but both 00:27:386 (1,2) - are following the ringing sounds and the drums, and it makes the pattern a bit awkward. If you want to emphasize the drums more than the ringing sound, then make 00:27:561 (2) - a 1/4 slider, and this way the ringing sounds won't be ignored but the drums are emphasized by pressing on them. yes, i agree, 2's a 1/4 slider now
2. 00:43:351 (2) - Ctrl + G would be cool, emphasizes the ringing a bit better and creates a nicer pattern with consistency from before. I prefer mine because the vocals have started up and I tend to use flow reversals to denote new vocal lines/pickups. I also like how the ringing is being "echoed" by the sliders aiming in the same direction.
3. 00:47:736 (3) - Remove whistle from head, feels unnecessary. Removed
4. 00:53:175 (1,1,1) - This is overdone, the drums are not that strong, I warn you that this pattern might relate to a disqualification if you keep it. I've reworked them to better fit the drums
5. 00:53:877 (1,2) - In relation to the previous note, a huge jump like before would fit here much more. I disagree, in my opinion that would defeat the finality of these drums, all of the instrumental ceases here
6. 00:55:748 (1) - I don't think putting a note on the singer's voice when she's inhaling is a good idea. I really love this
7. 01:27:736 (1) - Unnecessary overmap. there's a grace note here
8. 01:28:789 (1) - Some kind of finish is recommended. Changed all these to drumclaps

Most of these are suggestions, but please read and think through with them, I think they can really help, good luck.

HappyRocket88 wrote:

Ehhh nobosy has shooted a star yet. GG

Let's do this

Mackenzie wrote:

General

1. make sure all your diffs have the same tags
2. video is missing in Yasora's Insane

Normal

1. 00:10:368 (3,4) - i know you are trying to do something creative but please,do you expect a 100k rank player to read this,the over lapping really made it tough to read,space it out :/ no fun allowed...changed pattern
2. 00:17:386 (1,2) - same as above,try avoid overlaps in lower diffs if possible, overlaps may cause a disqualification nothing wrong with this, a back-and-forth motion is very intuitive and natural, and most of the sliderhead is visible so I see no reason to change
3. 00:28:263 (4) - ^ I will never change this for reasons previously mentioned in this thread, don't feel like typing that long paragraph out again
4. 00:48:965 (5) - this looks kinda ugly imo it's fine for me
5. 01:18:438 (3,4) - 1/4 in this kind of bpm is fine, but please use ds, its still fast for normal uhhhh ds is on???? and slider leniency makes this rly easy lol
6. 01:28:263 (1,2) - please what do you want from me .-.

Hard

1. 00:05:339 (1) - weird timing here, not sure if its 1 1/8 beat earlier should be 1/6 snap
2. 00:11:070 (1) - i would say its too much of overlapping almost half of the hit circle by using the slider slide hmm I don't see your problem with this? it's not really hard to read, approach circle is right there; and slider leniency keeps the cursor hovering over the hitcircle for a very long time so this is pretty easy
3. 00:39:842 (1) - i dont think its snapped in the right place fixed
4. 01:01:947 (9,1) - spacing here is too big for the whole diff fixed
5. 01:27:210 (9) - i suggest this rhythm here, http://puu.sh/j75qF/c6c1505234.jpg ,the reverse you used is extended way to much, and its breaking the music feeling,also skipped the 1/6 rhythm, the rhythm above have more that kind of feeling and it well kept the 1/6 rhythm from skipped definitely better

Extra

1. 00:12:298 (2,3) - ds here is too small, and because of that the flow is kinda bad here, suggest larger the ds i don't really see what your problem is here??
2. 00:12:824 (4,1) - whats that, not a nice looking pattern imo aesthetics aren't important, i need these sliders for the specific cursor motion i'm looking for, where the player feels inclined to travel the entire length of these sliders instead of relying on slider leniency
3. 01:19:140 (1,2) - whats that rhythm,how about let the slider end at 01:19:491 that point and avoid the overmapping,sounds much better imo woops, the sliderend was supposed to be silenced here, but i need the click on this note so the next jump is snappier, like how i do in the kiai
4. 01:24:754 (1) - ^ ^
   
   
   
   I noticed that you mapping style is strongly effected by skystar when i saw the patterns at kiai,but tbh i dont really suggest new mappers to learn from skystar because his style and patterns are very hard to use,
   My advice for your future modding: don't tell new mappers to avoid a certain style or technique, how will they ever learn if they never try? If a new mapper is taking ideas from a certain style, it's because that's the style of map they like playing, and it's the style of map they aspire to create. Instead of saying "don't try it," explain to them ways they can improve, or tell them what exactly they're doing wrong. And if you can't do this, you have no real right to criticize.
   
   And for the record, I'm not so much influenced by Skystar, as I am influenced by people who were influenced by Skystar
   
   your patterns in kiai are lack of distance control,you dont know why are you putting the object where, yes, skystar do use large distance,but he knows how to control the distance,
   More or less everything I've placed is thought out with a clear goal in mind, I aim for specific, intuitive cursor motions as opposed to keeping spacing consistent or whatever it is you're generalizing. This should be clear by the fact that this kiai plays really well, at least in my opinion, and the opinions of other people, where some would even FC on sightread. Perhaps if you were to point out actual issues with the placement of notes in the kiai things might change. But with your overgeneralized (and a little insulting) statement of "things don't seem thought out," I have nothing to work off of, so nothing will be changed.
   
   this kiai btw, tbh, i just think that they are whole bunch of random notes. random notes in cs4 is fine, not in cs5
   high spacing with smaller circles has definitely worked in the past, see https://osu.ppy.sh/b/506520, https://osu.ppy.sh/s/187561, https://osu.ppy.sh/s/173614, sure I'll agree that low cs and high spacing is unconventional (and arguably suboptimal) but I think this song really calls for such an intense nature with ultra-specific snapping (also why I set hp at 8, for a more intense feeling)

good luck

1. 00:01:245 (3,4) - 1/2 slider would be cool here cuz theres a kind of pause in the music.
2. 00:12:298 (2,3) - Jump here would be more interesting imo, for the drum hit haha.
3. 00:33:000 (1,2) - This jump felt really random. 2 isn't really emphasized, yet you map a huge jump to it.
4. 00:35:807 (1,2) - Same thing here. 00:36:333 (3) - Slider 3 is a stronger drum beat. You could make 2 like a slider and create a larger jump onto 3. That would make more sense with the music.
5. 00:40:543 (3,4) - A large part of the repeat arrow is being covered. Kinda risky if you ask me .
6. 00:47:736 (3) - Why this shape :C. It just looks weird. Players will be forced to halt motion to play this repeat slider.
7. 00:50:368 (1,1,1) - Random big jumps ;c. They don't really emphasize much
8. 00:53:701 - Could map a circle here... leads into next point
9. 00:53:877 (1,2) - And then here, mapping a jump would totally fit. You've created a lot of momentum from 00:53:175 (1,1,1) - but then you just end it with a stack and it feels really anti climactic.
10. 01:28:263 (1,1) - No point NC'ing if you are just going to stack them. Though i would encourage making them jumps instead.

1. 00:00:894 (3) - Could make this a slider too. Clear beat at 00:01:070 - .
2. 00:28:614 (1,2,3,4) - This rhythm doesn't reflect the music very well... Specifically 00:28:965 (2) - . Slider end should be mapped to something imo. Vocals emphasize the note.
3. 00:51:421 (2,3) - Try Ctrl+G'ing this rhythm to make the drumhit on 00:51:772 - clickable.

1. 00:05:339 (1,1,2) - This is quite a large SV jump. Especially since this slider: 00:05:339 (1) - is Curved like a circle. It makes it seem even slower than it already is because of its shape. Theres a lot more slider-leniency for the player to cross. This creates a huge spike in SV that i don't think is suitable on Hard. I think SV 0.7 should be enough honestly. It'll feel like 0.5 to the player with the shape you have lol.
2. 00:10:368 (1,1) - Overlaps too much for me . Especially since you are using 1/4 spacing here, it'll be very difficult to read.
3. 00:55:924 (1) - This doesn't look like it's snapped right.. 1/12?

1. 00:08:965 (1,3) - This overlap is going to cause readability issues somewhere down the line.
2. 01:10:017 (4,1) - Might as well line them up properly.

monstrata wrote:

[Extra]

1. 00:01:245 (3,4) - 1/2 slider would be cool here cuz theres a kind of pause in the music. I agree
2. 00:12:298 (2,3) - Jump here would be more interesting imo, for the drum hit haha. nah, trying to keep thing tighter here
3. 00:33:000 (1,2) - This jump felt really random. 2 isn't really emphasized, yet you map a huge jump to it. In the context of the rest of the map, this is right, it aligns itself better with the rest of the jumps preceding it, even if the actual instrumental says otherwise; and besides, with this motion, most of the emphasis is on the triplet that follows
4. 00:35:807 (1,2) - Same thing here. 00:36:333 (3) - Slider 3 is a stronger drum beat. You could make 2 like a slider and create a larger jump onto 3. That would make more sense with the music. Stacking 00:35:982 (2) - over 00:35:456 (7) - makes the jump seem not as strong because it's a natural returning position. 00:35:807 (1) - is the beat with more emphasis here. It's what I did for the rest of the verse and it's what I'm doing here.
5. 00:40:543 (3,4) - A large part of the repeat arrow is being covered. Kinda risky if you ask me . ehh I think more than enough is visible, at least in testplays nobody's read this wrong
6. 00:47:736 (3) - Why this shape :C. It just looks weird. Players will be forced to halt motion to play this repeat slider. That was the idea but I think now I'd rather this part be seamless
7. 00:50:368 (1,1,1) - Random big jumps ;c. They don't really emphasize much They echo the keyboard and build into the instrumental that picks up on the next downbeat
8. 00:53:701 - Could map a circle here... leads into next point no thank you
9. 00:53:877 (1,2) - And then here, mapping a jump would totally fit. You've created a lot of momentum from 00:53:175 (1,1,1) - but then you just end it with a stack and it feels really anti climactic. Alright, second time someone's suggested this, it's not too bad of an idea, I'll go through with it
10. 01:28:263 (1,1) - No point NC'ing if you are just going to stack them. Though i would encourage making them jumps instead. I think the stacking makes them snappier (not to mention easier to play out of the 1/6, lolol)

Kiai time is just weird for me. Slow sliders just don't match with the huge jumps you've given this section. Why? Because a lot of momentum is lost when you go to play these sliders. This creates a really jerky feeling between snapping to your CS 5 notes, and playing out these sliders. For me anyways, this doesn't fit for song like Brave Shine. The song is not trying to be aggressive...thats.. that's the point.. this song is incredibly grandiose and powerful in my opinion (especially if you've ever heard any other Aimer song, it's like she's screaming her lungs out here lol). Slow sliders don't "lose" momentum, they store it, and transfer that into the highly spaced jumps. These highly spaced jumps are vital for the grand nature I'm looking for, and the slow sliders complement that by creating a proper balance of fast/slow easing motions, which both assists in playability, and reflects how the song balances heavy drum hits with long vocal holds.
And to show that my reasoning is right, everything is very straightforward and easy to snap to. Sure, I suppose it doesn't "flow" in the traditional sense of "my brain is turned off and I'm FC'ing lel", but it flows in the sense that every motion is logical and intuitive, even if moderately technically challenging.
And yes, I do realize that I am being overly prideful and arrogant. I think I did a very good job capturing the essence of this song, but I guess nobody else agrees the song is as powerful as I think it is ;w;

[Hard]

1. 00:05:339 (1,1,2) - This is quite a large SV jump. Especially since this slider: 00:05:339 (1) - is Curved like a circle. It makes it seem even slower than it already is because of its shape. Theres a lot more slider-leniency for the player to cross. This creates a huge spike in SV that i don't think is suitable on Hard. I think SV 0.7 should be enough honestly. It'll feel like 0.5 to the player with the shape you have lol. There's nearly a 1/1 empty gap before this, that's plenty for SV change readability, and slider leniency mixed with the curve makes this very easy to play. If this does come off as particularly slow like you say, it only makes the downbeat release feel stronger. No change.
2. 00:10:368 (1,1) - Overlaps too much for me . Especially since you are using 1/4 spacing here, it'll be very difficult to read. This is fine, slider leniency results in the player hovering over the second sliderhead basically forever. In my opinion osu needs more reading-oriented patterns in lower diffs anyway, how else will people ever learn how to actually read?
3. 00:55:924 (1) - This doesn't look like it's snapped right.. 1/12? 1/12 indeed, and this is definitely right, it's snapped to vocals

Nice to see a normal-looking diff. lol

[Normal]

1. 00:08:965 (1,3) - This overlap is going to cause readability issues somewhere down the line. In what way? These are just stacked notes, plenty of other maps do this kind of thing, this is like the least reading-intensive reading-based pattern I've ever used in a Normal diff, lmao..
2. 01:10:017 (4,1) - Might as well line them up properly. whoops, fixed

Well, this Normal plays more like an Easy with some 1/4's put in... But rhythmically, it's too easy compared to Hard. Note density drops so much. The only time you use 1/4 in Kiai are: 01:06:158 (2,3) - | 01:18:438 (3,4,1) - and neither involve actually clicking every 1/4. All clicks are 1/2 spaced so intensity isn't there either. I really think you'll need a diff in between the current Normal and Hard because the difficulty gap is too large. Yeah, I was worried about this, RC says in order to forego an Easy diff, the Normal needs to be a borderline Easy, but then balancing the rest of the spread becomes a huge pain... I may mess around a bit with this Normal, but I don't think the note density increase to Hard is too drastic atm, I've certainly seen similar jumps

Good luck

monstrata wrote:

Tbh I think you're overthinking the song, but to each their own huh?. Good luck with this set.

Mackenzie wrote:

Yasora's Insane

1. 00:54:403 (1,2,3) - if you are following the vocal, then use some hitsound that actually fits the vocals like the default soft hitnormal ok
2. 00:55:982 (1) - i think its better to follow the drum in the background rather than following the vocal,its has louder volume and its more easy for players to mention them,your hitsound here fits that better too um i think i will follow the vocal here..
3. 01:28:965 (4) - there is no sound if i remove this it will like something missing :'(

monstrata wrote:

[Yasora's Insane]

1. 00:00:894 (3) - Could make this a slider too. Clear beat at 00:01:070 - .
2. 00:28:614 (1,2,3,4) - This rhythm doesn't reflect the music very well... Specifically 00:28:965 (2) - . Slider end should be mapped to something imo. Vocals emphasize the note.
3. 00:51:421 (2,3) - Try Ctrl+G'ing this rhythm to make the drumhit on 00:51:772 - clickable.
   ok.. changed all

Yea idk about these SV changes. Could at least NC for the SV changes to make them more readable but meh...

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Hello, M4M from my queue.
Please, reply to this mod and tell me why you didn't change without saying "it's my style" or "there are already ranked maps with the same kind of pattern" or other reasons like this.

Normal

1. 00:10:368 (3,4) - This is really uncomfortable to play for a beginner, this is the easiest diff of the mapset, and assume beginners will play it. The reason why it is uncomfortable is that these sliders are too much curved and it forces the beginner to do circular motions and a beginner doesn't really master it, because when you're a beginner you don't really master your mouse, right ? These sliders should be less curved. I don't think beginners should have any trouble here tbh. If you look at the sliderball here, there's so much leniency that you can actually just move in a straight line all the way to the end. And I believe that players should be taught about slider leniency from the very beginning, as it can make the transition into harder maps much easier to grasp. I may still change this in the future, since this was kind of a rough fix from a previous arrangement, but for now I'd like to keep this
2. 00:17:386 (1,2) - This is really ugly and flow breaking because (2)'s head is at the middle of (1) and the beginner will probably hit (2) too early and won't finish (1) correctly and probably get a 100. And that could be really misleading, and also, try to get rid of this overlap. I agree completely, thank you for the detailed explanation regarding what makes this tricky and uncomfortable. Rearranged these slider placements.
3. 00:27:210 (3,4) - same scenario as ^ I disagree with this, though. I've already typed up a long paragraph about why I think this arrangement is straightforward and why I want to keep it, let me copypaste it real quick:
   
   

   UndeadCapulet wrote:

   The flow here is very good because I'm teaching new players about slider leniency. The player will want to linger over the 4 as long as possible, similar to how the vocals linger into the next downbeat (and as you can see, the 4 slider is mapping the vocals). The overlap here serves to keep the vocals from feeling like they stand alone; the vocals are connecting the downbeat to the ending of the measure, that's all they do. So, I've connected the 4 slider to the 3 slider with an overlap. The repeat snaps the player back into the direction they were traveling originally, the same way the vocals snap the downbeat into place, after the long held notes finished trailing off.

   Expanding on this further, the vast majority of the hitcircle is visible, and there's little object density in this area, which makes focusing on the overlapped approach circle pretty straightforward. I really don't want the player finishing the 3 slider fully, because the instrumental is sort of tapering off, in a sense (I don't think I explained that well but whatever). So unless this single overlap is a genuine unrankable issue (and it really shouldn't be imo), I really want to be stubborn here and keep this as is, because in my opinion, any other arrangement here will only serve to lower the quality of this map. I believe that "tricky to read" patterns are not bad, even in lower difficulties; one of the main reasons people dislike unorthodox mapping styles in higher diffs is because they find the maps to read, but that's only the case because those players were never given the opportunity to learn how to read when they were learning the game.
4. 01:13:526 (1,2) - and ^ I agree here, changed this one, and 01:14:579 (2,3) - but here I want to keep this because I like the multiple flow reversals, and I don't really want the player completely playing the 01:14:579 (2) - slider back to the beginning, I think things resolve better this way. This isn't very difficult imo because of how much leeway the repeat has, the player should be able to focus on 3's approach circle just fine.

Hard

1. 00:13:351 (5,6,7) - The transition from 5 to 6 is uncomfortable to play because, everyone (and i said everyone) doesn't really move to (5)'s end when playing, and the player could click on (6) too early. I just mean, there is an unintentional slowdown, and it could be better if you move (6) downward and more on the right, that means you should unstack it from 00:12:824 (3) - Breaking off of that slider is completely intentional. The near-antijump at this part leads to 00:13:351 (5,6,7) - having the same emphasis as 00:12:824 (3,4,5) - , with the small gap to the circle followed by the jump to the slider. It also makes 00:13:701 (6,7) - feel slightly stronger than 00:13:175 (4,5) - because of the repeated left-right jump motion, which fits the music well. I don't think players will click too early here tbh, everything at this point is in beat, there shouldn't be any real issue
2. 01:27:210 (9,1) - It could be better if there is more distance between these sliders, because there is a different gap between 01:27:561 (1,2) - and 01:27:210 (9,1) - (1/6 and 1/4). And these sliders have the same spacing visually and that could be misleading. This was the intention, actually, I thought playability would be easier if the motion was just a smooth graze across the sliders, since sliders have no hiterror I thought it'd be better that way. But I see no harm in changing this so the spacing differs, so I've changed it.

Extra

1. 01:14:754 (1,2,3) - This pattern is really uncomfortable to play, the antijump between 00:23:701 (4,5) - makes the player get a sudden sliderbreak if he doesn't know the pattern and that's not fun at all to play things you should know or memorize to be able to play them properly. Looks like you copied the wrong notes lol, I think I understand which part you're referring to, though. I don't think the 4,5 antijump was the real issue, though, I think it was the 3,4,5 angle that made this uncomfortable. I've fiddled with it a bit, it's much better now I believe
2. 00:33:526 (5,6) - this is like flow breaking when you're playing it, you don't really expect a reversed slider here, because the reverse arrow is half covered, and the motion is the other direction and the player needs much aim to be able to play it properly. Let me give you an example of what i mean :
   Your current pattern looks like this when playing (of course this example is overdone).
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   So, It could be better if you do something smoother like this instead Yeah, I'm not really sure what you were trying to show with that first image?? But anyway I don't believe this part takes much skill, the sliderball is always overlapping the sliderhead so you can pretty much hold over the head the whole time (which is what I hope the player does tbh). I've reworked the slider design to make the repeat more noticeable, just to be safe, but I don't think there should be any issue with the actual playability of this part :
   
   SPOILER

   
3. 00:42:122 (3,4) - I don't really get your point about emphasis here, these sliders 00:41:421 (1,2,3) - are enough spaced, and the last one 00:42:473 (4) - looks like an antijump on a powerful note, and this sounds counter intuitive. Consider adding more distance between them. These sliders are all following vocals, as well as that weird guitar(?) sound that echoes. The 4 slider is obviously the weakest in this case, as it holds the weakest vocal and has the quietest instrumental echo. If you're talking about the white tick slidertail, and saying that's the stronger beat, well, that's part of the reason the 00:42:824 (1) - slider is so much farther away
   
   I won't give suggestions for kiai because i know you will deny all of them, i will just tell me your opinions on it :
   I have the feeling that you're trying to do what HW did for her map called HELIX. HELIX definitely impressed me, and HW is a big influence in my mapping, but replicating HELIX is not actually my intention here. At a surface value I concede they are similar, but the object layouts have little in common, as the songs are completely different and really only share the fact that a low SV high CS high spacing gimmick can be applied to them.
   But i also have the feeling that you didn't really understand how she mapped it. Jumps are large and the low SV doesn't really help and it is really a pain to do "slowdown - jump - slowdown - jump - jump - jump - slowdown - miss". It is not really unrankable in few cases, but if you don't master what you did, it could be unrankable. Is it really a pain? That's not my intention ;w; things are supposed to be stressful but ultimately smooth, or to phrase into one word, "grandiose." I really hope you can maybe chat with me in-game to explain what's causing this experience to not properly deliver.
   And also, please, no OD9 because this song is too slow and it is also difficult to get a good accuracy because of the patterns you used. LOL yeah I slapped OD9 on here because I saw that most other CS5 maps had OD9, so I figured it was like a standardized convention. But yeah I've lately come to understand the real reason they use OD9, and this map does not fit that criteria, lol. Dropped OD to 8.
   And also HP8 is overkill for this BPM, use 7 or 6 instead please. ehh idk about this, HP8 is set with the idea that it helps build intensity during the chorus, like, "oh shit if I miss one of these tiny circles I'm gonna fail," though that should never really happen because I've never really seen somebody fail when they weren't going to fail with a lower HP anyway. Maybe I'm using HP incorrectly, in which case I will drop it, but for now I would like to keep the higher HP.

Good Luck ~