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cranky - La Campanella : Nu Rave

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Evening
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Evening
Map - 4K / 6K : https://osu.ppy.sh/b/547808


Currently, the only concerning issue for me now is the snappings of the notes here ( timing issues ), so my query here is not only open up to mania BNs specifically

Planning to Bubble this if this issue gets fixed

Timing issues :
00:51:763 - TO 00:59:178 - | The main issue here is that the start of the vocal "chants" here is very subjective, so I'm currently not sure on how the mapper is supposed to map it so that fits well and feels accurate/correct when playing it, so I'm asking for suggestions on how this can be fixed or how else it can be mapped, if all suggestions here fail, this section should be left blank for the benefit of playability in the area of accuracy.

01:36:939 - Onwards | Some stuff here are not snapped to a very "nice" divisor, I suspect a slight inaccuracy on these notes, therefore this is an area of concern for me also

01:07:942 - TO 01:14:171 - | Personally, not sure about these notes here also

If there are any other areas of concern for this map, please do post also ~
Starry-
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1. The chants are subjective yes; technically where they are placed now is the start of the vocal sample, rather than the highlight. (And usually, being at the start of the sample is usually better, since you can't accurately map to the highlight). So in my opinion it's fine to keep them there, although if you're concerned I suppose you can just remove the LN's for the vocals.
Although it doesn't help considering the offset for that timing section is too early anyways, so it might feel a bit off because of that.

2. To be completely honest some of these notes have a really weird snap. Eg. 01:41:295 - Feels as if it should be on the 1/8 before it, 01:45:795 - Feels maybe it should be a tiny bit earlier. Despite the weird snap, if you can't meddle with some of the timing sections to make them seem more accurate, then using the closest snap to the real thing could possibly suffice. It's something better to bring up with a timing expert or QAT perhaps (although QATs aren't inclined to check the rankability of something, in this case perhaps they could help you a bit). Sorry, can't help much here.

3. 01:06:594 - to 01:07:942 - The layering of the kinda melody is really offsnap it seems. (looking at 4K MX for reference). Definitely isn't 1/3, that's all I can say.
I'm looking at a few DJMAX charts of this song on YouTube and it seems on the offsnap areas the bpm slows down (mapped to the melody).
for example.
Although the chart doesn't layer in both the drums and the melody, it seems really hard to map them both correctly.
I'd recommend to just mapping the drums in the area of concern in that case.

Sorry couldn't help much, hope more people can give their feedback!
Evening
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Evening

Starry- wrote:

1. The chants are subjective yes; technically where they are placed now is the start of the vocal sample, rather than the highlight. (And usually, being at the start of the sample is usually better, since you can't accurately map to the highlight). So in my opinion it's fine to keep them there, although if you're concerned I suppose you can just remove the LN's for the vocals.
Although it doesn't help considering the offset for that timing section is too early anyways, so it might feel a bit off because of that.

2. To be completely honest some of these notes have a really weird snap. Eg. 01:41:295 - Feels as if it should be on the 1/8 before it, 01:45:795 - Feels maybe it should be a tiny bit earlier. Despite the weird snap, if you can't meddle with some of the timing sections to make them seem more accurate, then using the closest snap to the real thing could possibly suffice. It's something better to bring up with a timing expert or QAT perhaps (although QATs aren't inclined to check the rankability of something, in this case perhaps they could help you a bit). Sorry, can't help much here.

3. 01:06:594 - to 01:07:942 - The layering of the kinda melody is really offsnap it seems. (looking at 4K MX for reference). Definitely isn't 1/3, that's all I can say.
I'm looking at a few DJMAX charts of this song on YouTube and it seems on the offsnap areas the bpm slows down (mapped to the melody).
for example.
Although the chart doesn't layer in both the drums and the melody, it seems really hard to map them both correctly.
I'd recommend to just mapping the drums in the area of concern in that case.

Sorry couldn't help much, hope more people can give their feedback!
Wasn't really expecting a reply to be honest, I'm rather delighted that someone replied ~
Anyways, nowsmart has read this and is currently poking people for this snapping problems, the video kinda helped actually, considering the measure lines at the end is directly snapped to notes, it is a clear indication that BPM change is required, will further look into the timing later on when i'm not busy

Thanks again Starry ~
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