ZenithPhantasm wrote:

Microsoft 1.1 has arguably one of the best sensors ever made. Why you would downgrade to all these other mice is beyond my comprehension.

Mouse Guide 2.0 wrote:

Microsoft WMO 1.1
-Sensor: STMicroelectronics OS MLT 04
-Weight: 72 grams (without the cord)
-Shape: Ambidextrous
-Coating: Standard plastic. Versions with matte or glossy aftermarket coating available for purchase.
-Buttons: 3
-Switches used for LMB and RMB: Slightly mushy in actuation. Does not feel as crisp as the standard omron switches found in most modern gaming mice. Some people mention that later versions have slightly better feeling switches. I myself have used many WMO 1.1 for a long time and never noticed a difference.
-Quality/ Design issues: The stock cord on the WMO is thick, heavy, and not very flexible. There can be "phantom scolling"/"scroll jump" where the mouse scrolls one click when moving it (typically WMO users unbind scroll). Often, when you slam the mouse down too hard on the mousepad after picking it up, the LMB or RMB might actuate.

The original Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical, a mouse that was produced without the intention of it being a gaming mouse. However, it has become somewhat of a classic gaming mouse. This is both due to the sensor performance, and it having no acceleration or prediction, but also because a lot of tournaments were won by well-known players with this mouse. In Quake, players like Cypher and Rapha have used it, and still used it recently to dominate Dreamhack winter 2013. In Counter Strike, a lot of players, (for example, Spawn, though not anymore) use the mouse. Another reason why people love this mouse is its extremely low weight

The downside to this mouse is that the max perfect tracking speed is rather low at only 1.0 m/s. However, it can be "overclocked" by increasing the USB sample rate, and the max perfect tracking speed increases to around 1.5 m/s when overclocked to 500Hz or more. You can find more info on how to do this here MORE . While the mouse is discontinued, original and re-coated *(but legitimate) versions continue to be available, mostly from China.

ZenithPhantasm wrote:

Mouse Guide 2.0 wrote:

Microsoft WMO 1.1
-Sensor: STMicroelectronics OS MLT 04
-Weight: 72 grams (without the cord)
-Shape: Ambidextrous
-Coating: Standard plastic. Versions with matte or glossy aftermarket coating available for purchase.
-Buttons: 3
-Switches used for LMB and RMB: Slightly mushy in actuation. Does not feel as crisp as the standard omron switches found in most modern gaming mice. Some people mention that later versions have slightly better feeling switches. I myself have used many WMO 1.1 for a long time and never noticed a difference.
-Quality/ Design issues: The stock cord on the WMO is thick, heavy, and not very flexible. There can be "phantom scolling"/"scroll jump" where the mouse scrolls one click when moving it (typically WMO users unbind scroll). Often, when you slam the mouse down too hard on the mousepad after picking it up, the LMB or RMB might actuate.

The original Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical, a mouse that was produced without the intention of it being a gaming mouse. However, it has become somewhat of a classic gaming mouse. This is both due to the sensor performance, and it having no acceleration or prediction, but also because a lot of tournaments were won by well-known players with this mouse. In Quake, players like Cypher and Rapha have used it, and still used it recently to dominate Dreamhack winter 2013. In Counter Strike, a lot of players, (for example, Spawn, though not anymore) use the mouse. Another reason why people love this mouse is its extremely low weight

The downside to this mouse is that the max perfect tracking speed is rather low at only 1.0 m/s. However, it can be "overclocked" by increasing the USB sample rate, and the max perfect tracking speed increases to around 1.5 m/s when overclocked to 500Hz or more. You can find more info on how to do this here MORE . While the mouse is discontinued, original and re-coated *(but legitimate) versions continue to be available, mostly from China.

winber1 wrote:

before i get silenced

winber1 wrote:

before i get silenced, i would like to thank the cast and crew for making this production possible.

also tablet masterrace.

also microsoft intellimouse explorer 3.0 masterrace, because i use it.

bigfeh wrote:

You won't get past shit tier if you have a bad mouse unless you're silvia (but his aim is shit anyways, his plays are click impressive)

heybrosup wrote:

bigfeh wrote:

You won't get past shit tier if you have a bad mouse unless you're silvia (but his aim is shit anyways, his plays are click impressive)

and this is based off of what? have you seen ekoro's mouse? it's mainly what you're accustomed to, a bad mouse that is not dysfunctional won't make you forever shit, just the player themselves will.

and shit aim? lol what's that make yours

bigfeh wrote:

heybrosup wrote:

Congratulations, way to be an ass and miss the fucking point of the post by light-years

I'll explain it to you in very, very simple language because you seem like the kind of person to have a cognitive disorder. Here goes

I only cited SilviA because he was the first to come to mind and is an exceptional mouse player. His mouse is also shit, which is why most of his best plays are click intensive as opposed to aim impressive.

Great hardware won't make you insta-cookiezi, but shit hardware can and fucking will severely limit your ability to aim (if your mouse/tablet is bad) and/or click (if your mouse/tablet/keyboard is bad). Your play will be affected if your mouse has significant acceleration, jitter, input lag, or is otherwise shit.

And on that note, when you say a player is shit at a specific skill (SilviA's aim is bad, I'm good at jumps, index is godly at streams (?)) you're comparing it to the rest of his skills and other players of same skill level

Was that clear enough for you or are you still confused?

heybrosup wrote:

I think you missed your own little remark where you can only be shit tier with a "bad" mouse, but it seems like you're fuming too much to think clearly
it only makes sense that you get aggravated so easily based on the way you write :^)

uberpancake wrote:

I don't think anyone really knows how many mouse only players there are. At lower levels they are pretty common but I find that they start to thin out quite a lot around the ranks where you start fcing insanes, and that most get stuck above 10k rank.

I do think that your playstyle can hinder your improvement but that's not to say that getting to a certain level is impossible. I mean there are like 7 mouse only players in the top 1k and pyonta even managed to sit in the top 100 for a while.

As for mouse the biggest difference I've felt has been between buttons on mice. I did change from laser to optical sensor at one point but felt no difference (might've made a difference I didn't notice though.)

I think that low sensitivity is a good idea for mouse only as the lower sens you use the less your clicks will impact your aim.

r1vera wrote:

uberpancake wrote:

I don't think anyone really knows how many mouse only players there are. At lower levels they are pretty common but I find that they start to thin out quite a lot around the ranks where you start fcing insanes, and that most get stuck above 10k rank.

I do think that your playstyle can hinder your improvement but that's not to say that getting to a certain level is impossible. I mean there are like 7 mouse only players in the top 1k and pyonta even managed to sit in the top 100 for a while.

As for mouse the biggest difference I've felt has been between buttons on mice. I did change from laser to optical sensor at one point but felt no difference (might've made a difference I didn't notice though.)

I think that low sensitivity is a good idea for mouse only as the lower sens you use the less your clicks will impact your aim.

Rukkk recommended me to buy an optical sensor, he said laser sensors are bad for osu, and talking about DPI/CPI i can't move down 1000 in my current mouse, it is impossible to do jumps on the screen, also i use fullscreen

r1vera wrote:

ZenithPhantasm wrote:

Microsoft 1.1 has arguably one of the best sensors ever made. Why you would downgrade to all these other mice is beyond my comprehension.

maybe you're thinking about the other version of 1.1, i had this one

XBossXLoveX wrote:

I USE THAT ONE TOO

bigfeh wrote:

XBossXLoveX wrote:

I USE THAT ONE TOO

YOU REALLY DON'T NEED TO USE CAPS THOUGH

Genki1000 wrote:

I see you posting a lot lately but why do you always sound so mad?

bigfeh wrote:

Genki1000 wrote:

I see you posting a lot lately but why do you always sound so mad?

lol literally burst out laughing

I don't know, really, maybe the wording I use? I'm a passive aggressive asshole too so that may be it

CuboidBeats wrote:

lol bigfeh

r1vera wrote:

please talk about topic ;_;

Noobsicle wrote:

i wonder if playing mouse only with two hands on the mouse is viable lol, right hand for aim, left hand for clicking
my mouse buttons are pretty difficult to alternate with so rip noobsicle can't mouse only bahahaha

Noobsicle wrote:

i wonder if playing mouse only with two hands on the mouse is viable lol, right hand for aim, left hand for clicking
my mouse buttons are pretty difficult to alternate with so rip noobsicle can't mouse only bahahaha

ZenithPhantasm wrote:

You would need to put tape over the sensor of one mouse.

bigfeh wrote:

This is actually an extremely interesting idea

but still, what would be the point? if you're gonna use two hands, why not go mouse + kb?

r1vera wrote:

I saw a video where someone played with 2 mouses, 1 for aim and other for click but i don't remember the title

bigfeh wrote:

r1vera wrote:

I saw a video where someone played with 2 mouses, 1 for aim and other for click but i don't remember the title

It's azer

Orthos wrote:

Also 800 DPI masterrace.

bigfeh wrote:

Orthos wrote:

Also 800 DPI masterrace.

bitchpls high cpi is best cpi