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[WIP] Pattern Based Mapsets For Training [06/29/18]

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ikzune
you know if someone really wanted to practise a specific pattern, deltamax :^)
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abraker
Argh, daltamax is dry mapset. I look down upon it.
ikzune
i hate the mapset to and i just practise what songs sound good whilst being fun to play but it is there :>
lenpai
Ey don't forget to add:
The Lost Dedicated
Sewing Machine
Angelic Layer
Epic Moon

For an insane jack level
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abraker
Include links because there are different versions. And make sure it's S-able.
Jinjin

abraker wrote:

[Finger Jackhammer]
Junjin's 4l EXTRA ;w;
pls
Fix it to Jinjin's 4K EXTRA D:
Jin Xero
You can use some songs from here: t/169457 if you wish
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abraker
Oh nice, I see some good ones in there! With that, I can start compiling the list for the 7k categories. :D
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abraker

Staiain wrote:

Any news on the DT PP front?
Hey! So that needs more attention. I've updated the list and made a Skillset Hall of Fame section to get this thread going. I'll try to update this section weekly. So put your DT on, and break a finger!
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abraker

iJinjin wrote:

Fix it to Jinjin's 4K EXTRA D:
Sorry for the typo and taking this long to fix it, I didn't notice the edit until now. :?
Resonnance

abraker wrote:

[Beat]
1) DJ Mashiro - Kira Kira Magical Power [Extra] <4.54*> -> <6.14*>
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/621755
this link doesn't work..
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abraker
Thank you, it's fixed!
ikzune
im still a bit confused about the point of even including star rating brackets, you should know by now star rating is very varied although it is accurate to a small degree still ._. but owell
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abraker
It's just to avoid the hassle of going to the beatmap and checking how hard it is. Some players might want to download the difficulty that best suits them, and downloading all in a row is not an efficient way of doing so. I took the star ratings from in game and not the website, so it should be accurate (unless the website's rating is the correct one o_o).

Actually I might be lying on that part. I'll check the star ratings I posted vs. in game star ratings and see if they are accurate. I'll need to fix that if not.

Edit:
The star ratings are fixed to match ingame star rating
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abraker
Bumping due to the number of updates since last post.
[Crz]Player
7) Si ra yee Si - Moon gate Delay Master [Beginner)]<6.18*> -> <8.8*>
o my map






[Beat Streams (lite)]


for lite users
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abraker
Yea great map ^.^ The link to it got broken, but I hope you don't mind if I reupload.

ATTan wrote:

[Beat Streams (lite)]
for lite users
Yea poor choice of wording. I changed it to just "Beat Streams" and the other is now "Alternation". I am not really familiar with the BMS/stepmania/etc terms. Any suggestions or maps I should consider adding?
AirOneBlack
I was looking for something similar... Thanks!
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abraker
This had enough changes since 3 months ago for another bump.
FoxTailTofu
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/292422
both Difficulty for burst maybe
I only can do Insane Srank
Hallowed only Arank
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abraker

FoxTailTofu wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/292422
both Difficulty for burst maybe
Nice map, added the Insane diff only. I like how it has rapid bursts within burst in the first part. Those streams can be counted as bursts since they are short and in middle of easy patterns, but then there are fast 1/8ths in the middle of that burst that may count as a sub-burst.

As for the Hallowed diff, it's hard to distinguish the bursts from the dense streaming.
-Kirisan-
this is so useful.. thanks xD
XeoStyle
Hey abraker,

I have created some 4k SV maps if you want (most of them are sightreadable and ~3*) :

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/299842
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/304512
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/314474
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/314482
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/331212

And a remake of Hurting For A Very Hurtful Pain with better SV/hitsound :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lz9tkc9lico0q ... n.osz?dl=0

Oh and a chordfest map too :

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/338122

Enjoy ! :D
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abraker
The first mapset is so good I wish it was ranked!
-Sandiwk-
very helpfull ty :D
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abraker
Time to bump this
Tappu
Thank you for this!

Looking forward to 7k aswell :)
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abraker
B-B-B-Bump!

Many new maps added
Jinjin


>Junjin
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abraker

Jinjin wrote:



>Junjin
fixed 。゚・ (>﹏<) ・゚。
Mankers
You are doing a great job by putting all that diffs in one place. However, I would like to ask you a favor. Could you make a zip archive with all the osz files? It would be easier and quicker to download :)
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abraker

Mankers wrote:

You are doing a great job by putting all that diffs in one place. However, I would like to ask you a favor. Could you make a zip archive with all the osz files? It would be easier and quicker to download :)
Ok, will do within the next week or two. Also do you think the actual beatmap folders will be better so that you won't have the beatmap processing thing everytime you want to update the pack? Any duplicates will simply not be copied that way as well.
johnmedina999
This might be too obvious, or maybe you omitted it on purpose, but I see you haven't included USAO - Miracle 5ympho X! Maybe everyone already has this map, but the newbies coming in to mania definitely don't, and I know it would've been useful when I was starting up.

This map includes a lot of different training exercises and can go in many different categories for 4k and 7k. It is personally one of my favorite maps and I implore you to add it if you wish!
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abraker

johnmedina999 wrote:

This might be too obvious, or maybe you omitted it on purpose... Maybe everyone already has this map
Yea kinda. I have been avoiding any popular maps in general, and it would take a really good ranked map or a really good well know map to get on this list as a result. I have been turning a blind eye to Peace Breaker, Japanese Transformation, Scales of Struggle, etc because I think most top ranking mania players already know of those. I think Miracle 5ympho X will gain more traction among the newbies again whenever it becomes loved.

Other than that, I have also kinda been avoiding mapsets made with various training patterns. Sounds counter intuitive considering that this is a selection of maps to train for by pattern, but for some reason it appeals to me more when there is one dedicated map that happens to be mostly of a certain pattern. This might be an unneeded comparison (and some may laugh), but I think of it as a synthetic diamond vs natural diamond kind of preference thing.
johnmedina999
Ah, I see. Well, that's alright.
I really appreciate you doing this. I need more practice on things like LNs and your list makes it easy to practice. Hope you keep up the hard work!

EDIT: By the way, Ryu* - I'm so Happy cannot be downloaded, only by osu! mirrors.
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abraker

johnmedina999 wrote:

EDIT: By the way, Ryu* - I'm so Happy cannot be downloaded, only by osu! mirrors.
Fixed

Mankers wrote:

You are doing a great job by putting all that diffs in one place. However, I would like to ask you a favor. Could you make a zip archive with all the osz files? It would be easier and quicker to download :)
You can now download all of the maps listed
>>> HERE <<<
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abraker
Lots of new maps added. Time for a bump!
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abraker
More maps added!
Chez
Wow, I forgot about this thread. I've actually been looking for something like this not realizing that it existed. Thanks for the bump. This thread is hella helpful.
deemoplayer47

abraker wrote:

johnmedina999 wrote:

Other than that, I have also kinda been avoiding mapsets made with various training patterns. Sounds counter intuitive considering that this is a selection of maps to train for by pattern
Ask good questions first.
Is it necessary to isolate each pattern onto their own beatmaps?
Which is better: training with a single (isolated) pattern, or training with various patterns at once with less exposure to each?
Which is better: training repeatedly on a single beatmap, or training on multiple beatmaps ("F2 is your friend")?
Good questions.

Based on my current knowledge, given how osu! is more like a physical sport than an eSport, players will learn better from playing multi-patterned beatmaps and playing multiple beatmaps at once, because of the simple fact that they're more difficult. Of course, there are some single-pattern beatmaps that are more difficult than some multi-patterned beatmaps, and they're probably deathstream or jump maps, but that's not to say that the difficulty of the maps you play determine how much you improve. To an extent, perhaps, specially in the case of multi-patterned beatmaps which are of less star difficulty than they're worth compared to single-pattern beatmaps; multi-pattern beatmaps might push players harder to achieve the same score/acc.

Yes, I'm serious, multi-patterned beatmaps are more difficult, because the types of patterns, amount of patterns, individual difficulty and individual durations, according to my current knowledge, psychologically affect how you play. It's even stronger when you're sightreading a map; I'm sure you'd even be prone to mindgaming (for example in low-level play, when flow is suddenly broken or the rhythm changes/gets complicated, or in high-level play, when odd patterns established by the beatmap are broken later on in a style similar to "conditioning" in fighting games). Playing multi-patterned beatmaps exposes you more often to these mental mistakes, allowing you to improve better in reaction, and of course, reading.

That said, osu! is more of a physical sport, and reading isn't the only valuable skill to refine, so people need reliable ways of not just measuring each aspect of overall playing strength (aim accuracy, hit accuracy, bpm/sv/note distance adaptability, stamina, etc) but also training aspects of play strength that you're weak in. Single-pattern beatmaps do better than multi-pattern beatmaps in this function.

Bottom line is that they're both important, and I thank you a lot for your work, personally because I prefer to train in a systematic one-by-one way. I just recommend you add multi-pattern beatmaps, too. :)
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abraker

deemoplayer47 wrote:

Bottom line is that they're both important, and I thank you a lot for your work, personally because I prefer to train in a systematic one-by-one way. I just recommend you add multi-pattern beatmaps, too.
That's what the maps under star rating on top are for.
marcolkh
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abraker
Added a few new maps and have more to add. I think this needs restructuring in format and pattern categorizations later on.
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abraker
Added a new Index Stream section
keremaru
bump because this is useful
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abraker
self reminder I need to update this
zaczacll
really useful man even the pattern can link with the photo. Thats fascinating.
K0j
It's called Inverse not Inverted. smh fucking scrub
Potatxo
Do you have any songs for staircasing practice?
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abraker
This list is being superseded by stuff in this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KVJUXHydvdSsbhxMYq9dCrIXr7D2QwjRGMuIOjJjWbc
Hoshimegu Mio
Wow.
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