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Azure_Kite
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Yes, you read right; For some reason, a group of us osu! members are making a Visual Novel all about osu! and it's members.

Since this is supposed to be for the community, I thought it'd be a good idea to hear your thoughts and possible ideas for the plot and style. hence this thread. Discuss.

Jarby
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Jarby
14:06 <Agent_Spin_Here> : Azure_Kyte, the story can be about who stole peppy's cake
14:06 <Agent_Spin_Here> : obviously
Nekoroll
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Nekoroll
Doesn't quite look like much "visual" for a "visual novel". :3 Who's doing the art? Haha.
Azure_Kite
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Azure_Kite
Note that it's not very complete at this point in time. Which is kinda the reason I'm asking for ideas

Although if anyone wants to do the art, by all means PM me and we'll see what we can do.
Faust
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Azure_Kyte wrote:

Yes, you read right; For some reason, a group of us osu! members are making a Visual Novel all about osu! and it's members.

Since this is supposed to be for the community, I thought it'd be a good idea to hear your thoughts and possible ideas for the plot and style. hence this thread. Discuss.

SPOILER
And then they all screamed "QUUEEEEEEEEEEEENNDAAAAAAAAAAANN" in sync.

The idea of an osu! VN is pretty amusing. Actually, I'm excited about it's potential as a novel. I'll give my ideas when I have some.
anonymous_old
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Throw in some music and make the graphics animated.

Add some circles and sliders and spinners, too.

And a HUD.
The_Priest_In_Yellow
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The_Priest_In_Yellow
Insanity system.

eg. Chaos;Head , Call of Cthulhu, Penumbra Overture, Eternal Darkness.

Basically what you're exposed to influences what you see/hear etc, to the point of deciding the available options.

Also, death by suicide.
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Azure_Kite
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strager wrote:

Throw in some music
Jar's already begun.

strager wrote:

and make the graphics animated.
ONScripter doesn't offer that much flexibility with sprites, but they'll at least be there.

strager wrote:

Add some circles and sliders and spinners, too.
Wait, is this a VN or a rhythm game?

strager wrote:

And a HUD.
Getting there. A basic Save/Load system's already implemented or something.
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Faust
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Faust

The_Priest_In_Yellow wrote:

Insanity system.
^ This.
Nachy
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Nachy

OH-SHI- wrote:

The_Priest_In_Yellow wrote:

Insanity system.
^ This.
That^
adam2046
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adam2046

The_Priest_In_Yellow wrote:

Insanity system.
And tentacles.
Lots of tentacles.
abalee
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abalee

adam2046 wrote:

And tentacles.
Lots of tentacles.
rofl
Nekoroll
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Nekoroll
^ That.

Mara
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Mara
Don't forget legs!

Also

death by suicide.
Loginer
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Half-assed weeaboo "translation" is a must to get that authentic VN feel.
Daru
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Daru
I'll help with the art.
AP's are over so I can actually do stuff now, though SAT II's and finals I still have to worry about...

Anyway, if anyone has title music, I kinda feel like making the OP.
adam2046
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Loginer wrote:

Half-assed weeaboo "translation" is a must to get that authentic VN feel.
Nii-san is a go.
Azure_Kite
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adam2046 wrote:

Loginer wrote:

Half-assed weeaboo "translation" is a must to get that authentic VN feel.
Nii-san is a go.
Do we have to? Reeeeeally?
Gens
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Gens
I'd like to see the osu! RPG thing finished, ohohoho
Bestelle
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Bestelle

The_Priest_In_Yellow wrote:

Insanity system.

eg. Chaos;Head , Call of Cthulhu, Penumbra Overture, Eternal Darkness.
God damn it. That reminds me, I need to get Eternal Darkness again. ...And Penumbra. Otherwise good idea.
Neo@lex
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Is there gonna be a route/ending system or is it gonna be more linear like Ryukishi07's stuff?
Also don't you dare use nii-san. Onii-chan is the only way forward.
Azure_Kite
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neo@lex wrote:

Is there gonna be a route/ending system or is it gonna be more linear like Ryukishi07's stuff?
Also don't you dare use nii-san. Onii-chan is the only way forward.
At the moment I'm thinking we'll use branches along the way. And I really don't want to use Japanese honorifics unless they fit with a member (people already use them on them, in other words.)
Faust
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We'll need to start thinking of the Protagonists somewhere along the way, or has it already been decided? It must need a certain degree of perspective.
Pokebis
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Pokebis
Is there a 31Gabe arc?
Bestelle
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Bestelle

Azure_Kyte wrote:

neo@lex wrote:

Is there gonna be a route/ending system or is it gonna be more linear like Ryukishi07's stuff?
Also don't you dare use nii-san. Onii-chan is the only way forward.
At the moment I'm thinking we'll use branches along the way. And I really don't want to use Japanese honorifics unless they fit with a member (people already use them on them, in other words.)
I call ztrot "onii-chan" if that counts.
Derekku
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Derekku
This...

looks promising...
Mashley
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Mashley
I should illustrate it.
And also there should be portal guns.
Loginer
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OH-SHI- wrote:

We'll need to start thinking of the Protagonists somewhere along the way, or has it already been decided? It must need a certain degree of perspective.
We could always take a few ideas from this thread.

Now, assuming this is a serious project, aim as low as possible. Trust me, I've seen hundreds of let's-make-a-vidya-game projects, and we will never finish a VN longer than 30 minutes. If it must be longer than that, split the game into smaller episodes, and make sure there's always a way to quickly wrap the story up, in case everyone suddenly loses interest.

Also, if anyone can come up with some good ideas, I'm willing to contribute artwork (rigid objects and indoor environments, can't be bothered doing anything more complex). And speaking of artwork, we should also agree on a specific art style and set of guidelines before doing this, or we'll just end up with an inconsistent mess.

Edit: One more thing.

Azure_Kyte wrote:

Yes, you read right; For some reason, a group of us osu! members are making a Visual Novel all about osu! and it's members.
I'd like to see a complete list of everyone who's working on it ATM, and what their roles are. Also, how long have you been working on it, and how much have you finished so far?
Wojjan
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TL NOTE: soraidora means slider.
Neo@lex
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Wojjan wrote:

soraidora

Wojjan wrote:

soraidora

Wojjan wrote:

soraidora

Wojjan wrote:

soraidora

Wojjan wrote:

soraidora
awp
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Azure_Kyte wrote:

strager wrote:

and make the graphics animated.
ONScripter doesn't offer that much flexibility with sprites, but they'll at least be there.
then make something that does
Azure_Kite
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Loginer wrote:

I'd like to see a complete list of everyone who's working on it ATM, and what their roles are. Also, how long have you been working on it, and how much have you finished so far?
So far, there are two current members, JarJarJacob doing the music and Myself doing the programming/writing. I'd be more than happy for Daru and yourself to help out, too. I'm thinking the Novel will have a slightly dark atmosphere, so I guess the art style will have an effect from that.

As for the VN, it's nowhere near complete, but most of the framework's there and ready to get it started. The Insanity System Tippy suggested sounds like an interesting idea, so that's also a possibility.

By group I probably should have said pair, but as usual, I'm terrible at properly explaining things.
Doomsday
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Doomsday
osu! VN? It'll be interesting to see how this turns out.
Daru
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Regarding consistency in the art, if we're going to have more then one person working on it, then we should have a person do a single step across all images.

For instance, we should have one person do all lineart and another do all coloring, rather then each person do coloring and lineart on half. With regard to backgrounds, we should get some stock photos of locations from around where we live, so we don't run into issues with using other people's images.

Also, if anyone has an FTP server or similar service/program where we can all upload files and updates, that would be nice.
Azure_Kite
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Daru wrote:

Regarding consistency in the art, if we're going to have more then one person working on it, then we should have a person do a single step across all images.

For instance, we should have one person do all lineart and another do all coloring, rather then each person do coloring and lineart on half. With regard to backgrounds, we should get some stock photos of locations from around where we live, so we don't run into issues with using other people's images.
Sounds logical; We might just work like this.

Daru wrote:

Also, if anyone has an FTP server or similar service/program where we can all upload files and updates, that would be nice.
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I'll look into setting one up. If anyone wants to let us use a temporary one, it'd be great too, for the time being.
Nekoroll
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Has an outline been somewhat established yet? Seems just like a lot of talk about how a VN would be a good idea, but little about the actual story or what's going to be involved and who's going to be in charge of what.

Who's the OCD planner up in here? We need some Excel spreadsheets and tables and shit. :D

I could do lineart, but I definitely need someone who has more experience with anatomy to help me out with double-checking sketches before finalization. Coloring is not really my thing but if there is no one to do it, I could chip in with base colors. Shadows are rather tricky for me especially on fabric folds.
Azure_Kite
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An Outline? Sure. A number of disasters/"accidents" occur around the world in pretty quick succession, which leads a number of osu! members to think something's up. Depending on the choices the player makes, events will influence the characters to believe that someone they know is causing it all. The question is, who, and why.

A couple of ideas I've thought about are the moon crashing into Perth and a world-wide power outage. Any more plot ideas are welcome.

also, OCD planner?
NoHitter
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The moon is moving away from Earth... not the other way around...
Nekoroll
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Azure_Kyte wrote:

An Outline? Sure. A number of disasters/"accidents" occur around the world in pretty quick succession, which leads a number of osu! members to think something's up. Depending on the choices the player makes, events will influence the characters to believe that someone they know is causing it all. The question is, who, and why.

A couple of ideas I've thought about are the moon crashing into Perth and a world-wide power outage. Any more plot ideas are welcome.

also, OCD planner?
Hehe that is more like a summarization. I meant an outline kind of like uhhhh (I wish I could tab in forums instead of spamming /list):

The osu!VN: Episode 1

1. OP sequence
  • a. Animation done by _____
    b. Score done by JarJarJacob
2. Main Menu
  • a. New Game
    b. Resume Game
    c. Gallery
    d. Options
    e. Exit
3. Prologue
  • a. 001.png - "Moving the cursor to the close button, peppy heard a loud crash from outside his window. | Puzzled, he stuck his head out the window and saw the craziest thing he'd ever seen."
    b. 002.png - "The moon, for that's what he thought it was, looked as if it had crashed into the centre of Perth. | People were screaming everywhere. It was anarchy."
    c. Blahblahblah info to set background of story and introduce major characters

In case of branches in story, it could possibly be something like this (ignore the stat changes if you don't plan on using one):

5. Blahblah
  • a. OH-SHI-_concerned.png - "What do you think will happen to us, peppy?"
    [list:6778e] - "Let's find a way out." [cha +1]
    [list:6778e] i. OH-SHI-_happy.png - "Yeah, good idea!"
  • - "We're going to die." [cha -1]
    [list:6778e] i. OH-SHI-_scared.png - "A-are we really?"
  • - "I don't know but look at this picture of my new desktop setup." [no change]
    [list:6778e] i. OH-SHI-_sad.png - "Now's not the tim--"
    ii. OH-SHI-_surprise.png - "Wow, you really cleaned it up!"
  • - Ignore OH-SHI- [no change]
    [list:6778e] i. OH-SHI-_sad.png - "....Why aren't you saying anything?"
I guess making that makes me an OCD planner. :< You know, someone who wants every detail down and perfect about a plan.
anonymous_old
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Azure_Kyte wrote:

Daru wrote:

Also, if anyone has an FTP server or similar service/program where we can all upload files and updates, that would be nice.
I'll look into setting one up. If anyone wants to let us use a temporary one, it'd be great too, for the time being.
It's called SVN/Git/Hg/CVS/whatever. SVN is probably simplest for your feeble minds.
Rena-chan
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Wojjan wrote:

TL NOTE: soraidora means slider.
Oh goddammit, I lol'd.
awp
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NoHItter wrote:

The moon is moving away from Earth... not the other way around...
It's more interesting if the moon moves toward the Earth. Tidal waves and earthquakes etc. Haven't you seen Mega Man?
Faust
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SPOILER

Nekoroll wrote:

Azure_Kyte wrote:

An Outline? Sure. A number of disasters/"accidents" occur around the world in pretty quick succession, which leads a number of osu! members to think something's up. Depending on the choices the player makes, events will influence the characters to believe that someone they know is causing it all. The question is, who, and why.

A couple of ideas I've thought about are the moon crashing into Perth and a world-wide power outage. Any more plot ideas are welcome.

also, OCD planner?
Hehe that is more like a summarization. I meant an outline kind of like uhhhh (I wish I could tab in forums instead of spamming /list):

The osu!VN: Episode 1

1. OP sequence
  • a. Animation done by _____
    b. Score done by JarJarJacob
2. Main Menu
  • a. New Game
    b. Resume Game
    c. Gallery
    d. Options
    e. Exit
3. Prologue
  • a. 001.png - "Moving the cursor to the close button, peppy heard a loud crash from outside his window. | Puzzled, he stuck his head out the window and saw the craziest thing he'd ever seen."
    b. 002.png - "The moon, for that's what he thought it was, looked as if it had crashed into the centre of Perth. | People were screaming everywhere. It was anarchy."
    c. Blahblahblah info to set background of story and introduce major characters

In case of branches in story, it could possibly be something like this (ignore the stat changes if you don't plan on using one):

5. Blahblah
  • a. OH-SHI-_concerned.png - "What do you think will happen to us, peppy?"
    [list:d2791] - "Let's find a way out." [cha +1]
    [list:d2791] i. OH-SHI-_happy.png - "Yeah, good idea!"
  • - "We're going to die." [cha -1]
    [list:d2791] i. OH-SHI-_scared.png - "A-are we really?"
  • - "I don't know but look at this picture of my new desktop setup." [no change]
    [list:d2791] i. OH-SHI-_sad.png - "Now's not the tim--"
    ii. OH-SHI-_surprise.png - "Wow, you really cleaned it up!"
  • - Ignore OH-SHI- [no change]
    [list:d2791] i. OH-SHI-_sad.png - "....Why aren't you saying anything?"
I guess making that makes me an OCD planner. :< You know, someone who wants every detail down and perfect about a plan.

Lol.

Also, I like the idea of the VN having a dark atmosphere to it. I could be of assistance if there's anything I can do to help.
Daru
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Daru

strager wrote:

It's called SVN/Git/Hg/CVS/whatever. SVN is probably simplest for your feeble minds.
Elaborate, please.
My feeble mind cannot comprehend the complexity of your suggestion. D:

Anyway, I can do lineart checking and coloring.
I can do some sketches as well, if they'd be any help to whoever wants to do lineart.

For art, we need:

Character Art
-- Sketching
-- Lineart
-- Coloring
-- Checking
Background
-- Reference
-- Lineart
-- Coloring
-- Checking
UI
-- Concept
-- Draft
-- Final

Also, with the whole "moon crashing into the earth" thing, I feel like that would be waaaay too high up there on the scale of natural distastes. I feel like if we let that happen, we'd be digging ourselves into a hole, plot-wise. The worldwide electrical failure, or simultaneous natural disasters of the plausible nature, I like better.
Jarby
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Jarby

Daru wrote:

Background
-- Reference
-- Lineart
-- Coloring
-- Checking
We can simplify this by just using filtered photos. Not sure if we have enough people contributing at the moment to have backgrounds drawn, anyway.
Nekoroll
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Nekoroll

JarJarJacob wrote:

We can simplify this by just using filtered photos. Not sure if we have enough people contributing at the moment to have backgrounds drawn, anyway.
I second this. Backdrops can be a pain, especially since structural backdrops have to utilize perfect lines to make it look at least halfway polished. Character art will be taking up a lot of time as is.
Daru
osu!painter
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Daru
It may sound like I want to do everything, but I actually kinda wanted to draw backgrounds.
It can be put, priority-wise, last, so we can just so filtered photos if I can't get to it or do it.
anonymous_old
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Daru wrote:

strager wrote:

It's called SVN/Git/Hg/CVS/whatever. SVN is probably simplest for your feeble minds.
Elaborate, please.
My feeble mind cannot comprehend the complexity of your suggestion. D:
  1. Click the top link. http://subversion.tigris.org/
  2. Read: This is the former website of the Subversion software project, which now calls subversion.apache.org home.
  3. Click the link.
  4. Read: Welcome to subversion.apache.org, the online home of the Subversion software project. Subversion is an open source version control system. Founded in 2000 by CollabNet, Inc., the Subversion project and software have seen incredible success over the past decade. Subversion has enjoyed and continues to enjoy widespread adoption in both the open source arena and the corporate world.
  5. Think: wtf is this?
  6. Visit Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svn
  7. Click top link (Apache Subversion).
  8. Read, clickgraph.
Iono; probably too difficult for you guys.
peppy
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Daru wrote:

Also, if anyone has an FTP server or similar service/program where we can all upload files and updates, that would be nice.
PLEASE GUYS, USE VERSION CONTROL.

you will thank me later.

it takes a bit of effort to setup but will pay off in the end. [lucky:a2ea7]tortoisesvn[/lucky:a2ea7] with a repo setup somewhere. if you can't figure out repo setup i can do that part.
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Pokebis
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Why does Gladi have three restrooms? Also is the Toilet an actual toilet you get to explore or is it just some foreign (to me a 'murcan) term for restroom?
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