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Florence + The Machine - Howl

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RandomJibberish
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 24 June 2010 at 17:33:12

Artist: Florence + The Machine
Title: Howl
Tags: Lungs
BPM: 130.01
Filesize: 5532kb
Play Time: 03:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.69 stars, 177 notes)
  2. Hard (4.75 stars, 405 notes)
  3. Normal (3.83 stars, 238 notes)
Download: Florence + The Machine - Howl
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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IF YOU COULD ONLY SEE
THE BEAST YOU MADE OF ME

RIP Matma's Easy
Last edited by RandomJibberish , edited 18 times in total.
Jarby
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I believe the BPM is 130.01. Or at least that's better than what you have currently. As for the kiai, it feels odd just stopping after the vocals. Perhaps you could simply have bursts there and kiai at the rest of the chorus.
00:37:304 - This break sort of "breaks" (:D) the flow of the map. It wouldn't hurt to map it.
01:21:375 - This break sort of "breaks" (:D) the flow of the map. It wouldn't hurt to map it.

Normal:

01:16:991 (1,2,3) - I think it would look better as a proper triangle.
02:55:054 (3,5) - The overlap here doesn't look good.
02:56:438 (5,1) - I don't like this spacing. Nothing like that had shown up in the map before this.
02:58:746 (3,5) - The overlap here doesn't look good.

Hard:

01:18:375 (2) - Fits better on a 1/3.
01:18:144 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Probably a good idea to lower this whole combo.
02:19:674 (5) - Fits better on a 1/3.

I really like this map <3
Teras
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Teras
Hey ;-)

Source: Add the album "Lungs" as the source.

[Normal]

Fine.

[Hard]

00:54:843 One grid left?
00:55:073 ^
00:55:304 ^

Sorry that I cannot mod properly for now. :(
Lots of exams to take care of at the moment. But I will come back to this.

Anyways, I think everything in this map looks fine already. So I guess that's a reason too why I don't find anything ^^.

So ,here is your star. ~
Gogo!
RandomJibberish
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RandomJibberish

Teras wrote:

Source: Add the album "Lungs" as the source.
The album is not the source. I'll add it to tags though :P

Moving those beats a grid left may preserve the spacing, but it breaks the repeating pattern and as is it isn't confusing in any way :/
Matma Rex
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Matma Rex

JarJarJacob wrote:

00:37:304 - This break sort of "breaks" (:D) the flow of the map. It wouldn't hurt to map it.
01:21:375 - This break sort of "breaks" (:D) the flow of the map. It wouldn't hurt to map it.
Especcially first of those two breaks. Really.

The dark side of the moon (:D) is choppy D:

Too lazy to mod this thru, but I played both diffs and they were great, so there's no point anyway <3

Also I might make an Easy. Might.

edit:
I will make Easy. And you have two .osbs.

Also I fixed the moon:

Last edited by Matma Rex , edited 2 times in total.
RandomJibberish
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But I like my four breaks ;_;

I might map them out laterz though

Fixing the moon for now
Matma Rex
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Matma Rex
I did it already, check the edit above ~
Matma Rex
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Matma Rex
So there.

It's damn awesome.

Download: Florence + The Machine - Howl (RandomJibberish) [Matma's Easy].osu
Asutarotto
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Asutarotto
Hello ;)

Pink words:You should fix this
Black words:Just suggestions
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[General]
Great moon SB~.
02:14:913 - 02:31:527 this part use soft hitsound may be better?


[Matma's Easy]
I think most of the spacing is 0.8x according to my observation,right?
But I have to tell you that some objects like
00:24:153 (1,2,1) 00:31:537 (1,2,1) 00:55:535 (1,1)
is not at this spacing.I know you snapped objects or did rotations in order to make it look more symmetric,
However,I strongly suggest you that you should NOT change spacing in easy diffs,or it may be unrankable,please note this.

[Normal]
00:34:306 (4,1) - jumps in Normal seem to be too hard
00:55:073 (4,1) - ^
01:16:995 (1,2,3) - ^

[Hard]
Sliders so fast! :? (haha,just keep them)
01:58:299 (1,2,3,4) - make these equal spacing?

Actually,except some spacing problems in Easy/Normal,this is quite a nice map,and I like the hitsound of it~ :D
+Star~
Matma Rex
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Matma Rex

no-7 wrote:

[Matma's Easy]
I think most of the spacing is 0.8x according to my observation,right?
But I have to tell you that some objects like
00:24:153 (1,2,1) 00:31:537 (1,2,1) 00:55:535 (1,1)
is not at this spacing.I know you snapped objects or did rotations in order to make it look more symmetric,
However,I strongly suggest you that you should NOT change spacing in easy diffs,or it may be unrankable,please note this.
You might have a point about 00:24:153 (1,2,1) and 00:31:537 (1,2,1), but these are parts with really strong steady rhythm, and whole Easy is mapped solely on white 1/1 ticks. You'd have to be really dumb to miss them only due to spacing.

I dont see any problem at all with 00:55:535 (1,1), however. The distance between these two is maybe 50% bigger than distance between 00:58:765 (1,2), and most of all, it's the slider - and I think that distance between end of slider and next note should be measured from the border of that yellow circle that you have to keep your cursor in - and this way it's perfectly okay. Not to mentioned the steady rhythm I talked about above, and the fact the next note is slider too, giving you much more time to hit it and get 300.

And most of all, I stand by my opinion that usually the difficulty name is the skill level required to pass a map, not to get perfect SS score on it.

Also, saying "unrankable" when you are expressing your own damn personal opinions is plain stupid. Stop it.


That's quite an essay I wrote there, huh.



edit: I found a little error myself.

Download: Florence + The Machine - Howl (RandomJibberish) [Matma's Easy].osu
RandomJibberish
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no-7 wrote:

[Normal]
00:34:306 (4,1) - jumps in Normal seem to be too hard
00:55:073 (4,1) - ^
01:16:995 (1,2,3) - ^
Not even AIMod says these are too hard for a normal. They really aren't.
[Hard]
01:58:299 (1,2,3,4) - make these equal spacing?
They are, it's a square :/
Powerdrone
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Powerdrone
I'm willing to say this is your best map so far.

I didn't notice a single thing wrong in any of the difficulties, besides that moon thing I already told you about.

STAR!
YGOkid8
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Increase hitsound volume to maximum. I can almost hear nothing :/

Matma's Easy:
- I got bored with the same patterns repeated over and over again. I smelled a bit of iNiS at the start, but eh. It might be just me, so feel free to leave it as it is.

Normal:
01:47:223 (1) - You had such pretty beats, until these sliders came along. They are ugly compared to the other ones you had. I recommended redoing these in a way that pleases people.
02:24:143 (1) - ^ Not as bad, but still makes me D: Why can't you just make it something like 02:31:527 (1) + others?
NotShinta
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Oh why not.
Frill
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You disregarded the rule.
3. Only maps in Pending map :(

But I do mod.

[General]

- delete osb file. and full submit
- Move to "Pending Beatmaps"

[Matma's Easy]

Fun.

[Normal]

01:39:724 - keep the kiai time.
02:38:796 - ^

[Hard]

01:39:724 - keep the kiai time.
02:38:796 - ^
03:16:062 - kiai time start here.

good map.

+Star
RandomJibberish
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Frill wrote:

You disregarded the rule.
3. Only maps in Pending map :(
Apologies, I thought it was pending and it is meant to be. Moving~

Also you obviously have no idea what an .osb does
YGOkid8
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RandomJibberish wrote:

Also you obviously have no idea what an .osb does
TheVileOne
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IRC modded.


Star.
wmfchris
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[hard]
0:55:535 (1) spacing, right 1 grid?

overall nicely spaced and nice SB
no need to give kd lol
RandomJibberish
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My sig wrote:

Please do not feed me stupid minute spacing adjustments
That particular suggestion messes up the symmety when it isn't confusing in the slightest as it is
Astom
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Nice :3
Star~~

PD: Fix timing points, they are out of time like by 13ms :P
m980
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[Matma's Easy]
Looks good

[Normal]
02:53:680 (1,2,3,4) - Straight out of Hell Raiser :p

[Hard]
00:51:843 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It's clear you're going for 4-way symmetry. But it's not perfectly symmetrical.
00:59:227 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same with the repeats
02:37:527 (5,6,7,8,9) - I don't know what you're going for here, but it's ugly like hell.

What is gradient.png and tree.png used for? They don't appear to do anything at all.

I'll check back tomorrow. Post in this thread telling me whether you're going to follow my suggestions or not.

Did I mention that THIS IS AWESOME!
RandomJibberish
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The gradient and tree go behind and in front of the moon so the moon goes behind the tree. That has been messing up sometimes so I've full submitted what I have now to make sure.

Fixed everything else though.

[Normal]
02:53:680 (1,2,3,4) - Straight out of Hell Raiser :p
lolinspiration

Thanks.
m980
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K that's cool.
Larto
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Okay, I'm not popping, but this Easy is terrible.
You mapped like 25% of this. The rest is nothing but copypasta. Go ahead, get it ranked, but not with me and not without my hatred.
I'd even map a good Easy for you.
m980
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Larto wrote:

Okay, I'm not popping, but this Easy is terrible.
You mapped like 25% of this. The rest is nothing but copypasta. Go ahead, get it ranked, but not with me and not without my hatred.
I'd even map a good Easy for you.
I'd like a reply from Jibberish for this. If you replace the Easy, I'll gladly replace the bubble (That is, if you choose to). Doing that will probably be faster that waiting for someone else.
Matma Rex
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If you guys really hate my Easy that much, feel free to delete it, Jibberish.
RandomJibberish
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I don't mind it much myself, but it does have a lot of repetition.

I don't really want to delete it and make my own, but I probably will since people don't seem to like it like this.

EDIT: Done.
m980
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[Easy]
03:03:833 (5,1) - Tricky Tricky spacing. Considering this is [Easy], I don't think you should be using Anti-Jumps.
02:37:988 (4,1) -
03:15:832 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It's clear you're going for 4-way symmetry. But it's not perfectly symmetrical.

[Hard]
03:01:064 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It's clear you're going for 4-way symmetry. But it's not vertically symmetrical.

Just a few minor things.
RandomJibberish
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Fixed all that~
m980
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Hopefully this will get ranked so I can move onto Round 2.

Also thanks for the kudosu >:(
Ephemeral
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Boom.
RandomJibberish
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Thanks m980 and Eph~
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