Ephemeral wrote:
Realistically, they're never going to be able to enforce this even if they do somehow corral the ISPs into implementing it.
I've heard rumours on the internet that Pentagon style anti-terrorism technology is going to be installed with all the major ISP's, which will deconstruct encrypted data in real time, and then will be searched for copyrighted content, keywords, etc, and then reconstructed back into it's original form before being sent to the user. That might be what the £500 million will be used for that I mentioned in my previous post, to pay for the technology to be installed. I'm not a hacker or programmer, and I don't work for any ISP's, so I don't know if this is true or not, I have only heard this from other people on the internet. But if it is true, then with this anti-terrorism technology installed, it would be very easy for ISP's to enforce it, since the process would all be automated.adamskii_uk wrote:
4) Since this new law will cost ISPs up to £500 million to implement, it could end up resulting with a massive increase in broadband prices in the UK.
I stopped reading there.adamskii_uk wrote:
I've heard rumours on the internet that Pentagon style anti-terrorism technology..
Aren't internet connections from places like school are already filtering?adamskii_uk wrote:
9) Libraries, Schools and Universities are not except from the new laws, they could be fined heavily, or disconnected from the internet too, if the connections are found to be used to illegally download copyrighted material.
h**p://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=3213845
h**p://www.broadbandgenie.co.uk/news/digital-economy-bill-threatens-free-public-wifi-in-uk
adamskii_uk wrote:
...and possibly even search engines such as Google could be blocked. There are rumours across the internet that this new law could force YouTube offline, due to people frequently posting copyrighted material on there, both purposely and accidentally.
adamskii_uk wrote:
>implying Google wouldn't just bribe the shit out of the British government
adamskii_uk wrote:
I've heard rumours on the internet that Pentagon style anti-terrorism technology is going to be installed with all the major ISP's, which will deconstruct encrypted data in real time, and then will be searched for copyrighted content, keywords, etc, and then reconstructed back into it's original form before being sent to the user.
Everything I have mentioned in this thread I have paraphrased from other sources, so it's not my fault if some of the information is incorrect. I'm not an expert in programming and encryption so I don't know if it's possible for the Government to decrypt data in real time, or not. There's alot of technology that the Government keeps classified, so I believe it may be possible to do it, at least at a very basic level.
Currently, there are no known and unpatched TLS exploits. Even if the government knew about one, they'd have to share knowledge about the existence of it with every ISP in the UK.adamskii_uk wrote:
There's alot of technology that the Government keeps classified, so I believe it may be possible to do it, at least at a very basic level.
Beatmaps are already stored on a separate server, AFAIK. If even linking to copyrighted material counts, peppy could always bypass this by redirecting British visitors to a version of the site where the Beatmaps section is greyed out. Users who want to download beatmaps would be advised to manually go to another subdomain (e.g. osu2.ppy.sh), where they'd be able to download beatmaps at their own risk.adamskii_uk wrote:
Anyway, laughing aside. This still doesn't alter the fact that this law is real, and on June 12, osu! members in the UK will be breaking the law by visiting this website.
Downloading illegal content is now illegal in Japan. You no longer have to distribute it to be prosecuted. No, Japan will not answer all your needs, sorry.neo@lex wrote:
brb moving to japan
Technically yes, but I have the address for unfiltered access.Natteke desu wrote:
Aren't internet connections from places like school are already filtering?
Illegal content has always been illegal. Do you mean prosecuted by the normal law enforcement and government rather than the copyright holders? Because copyright holders can persecute you in nearly any part of the world if you're caught infringing their product.peppy wrote:
Downloading illegal content is now illegal in Japan. You no longer have to distribute it to be prosecuted. No, Japan will not answer all your needs, sorry.neo@lex wrote:
brb moving to japan
Will you pay for a ticket / food / apartaments / studies? If so then I'm going right now!CDFA wrote:
Ok guys lets move to USA.
I have unfiltered access because I'm managing network @ my school.Rokodo wrote:
Technically yes, but I have the address for unfiltered access.Natteke desu wrote:
Aren't internet connections from places like school are already filtering?
I was talking about Brittish schools ;_;BagnoGamer wrote:
I have unfiltered access because I'm managing network @ my school.
Same goes for Poland. Believe me, there's no difference between British and Polish schools.Natteke desu wrote:
I was talking about Brittish schools ;_;BagnoGamer wrote:
I have unfiltered access because I'm managing network @ my school.
All additional .exe files are blocked and most features of windows are disabled (I can play quake and osu from the usb though).
Opiekun /u
As in the actual act of downloading can see you facing charges (government).Pokebis wrote:
Illegal content has always been illegal. Do you mean prosecuted by the normal law enforcement and government rather than the copyright holders? Because copyright holders can persecute you in nearly any part of the world if you're caught infringing their product.
And I think Neo was going for the "being able to still browse sites like osu! and 4chan" thing.
That has always been copyright infringement. Distributing something that isn't yours to distribute is always illegal, and while properly crediting it is nice because it means you're not a plagiarist, you're still quite liable to have it shut down by the media corporation that owns it.pjiang621111 wrote:
Wait...so even putting something up on Youtube even when you say something like "Copyright goes to its rightful owners" or "This was not created by me" or something like that is still considered copyright infringement?
Lulzadamskii_uk wrote:
For those of you who haven't seen this yet. The image below shows how many MP's actually bothered to turn up at the House Of Commons when the Digital Economy Bill was debated and voted for. As you can see by the image, a large percentage of the MP's care about this issue very much.
Awww... I wanted to suggest Mexico. Here nobody cares if you're downloading 10 GB of illegal stuff. Oh, well...neo@lex wrote:
I'm not interested in third-world countries.
Trying to imitate us huadamskii_uk wrote:
For those of you who haven't seen this yet. The image below shows how many MP's actually bothered to turn up at the House Of Commons when the Digital Economy Bill was debated and voted for. As you can see by the image, a large percentage of the MP's care about this issue very much.
Russia isn't third-world. Though I hate it enough to agree that it can be called so.neo@lex wrote:
I'm not interested in third-world countries.
neo@lex wrote:
uhh..
It came into effect already.
Nothing happened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Economy_Act_2010Well, according to wikipedia the law comes into effect on June 12, four days from now. So this is probably why nothing has happened yet. This law will most likely fail, however, don't expect the ISP's to go easy on people who download illegal stuff, because they will get fined £250,000 for refusing to cooperate and issue warnings to people, etc.
The Digital Economy Act 2010 (c. 24)[1][2][3] is a law enacted by the Parliament of the United Kingdom regulating digital media. It received the Royal Assent on April 12, 2010, and will enter into force on June 12, 2010
Oh c'mon Azure. You know better.Azure_Kyte wrote:
So let's overthrow the powerful people already. Ohwait.
Above wrote:
Posted: 03 May 2010, 06:09 (over 2 months ago)
Oh crap, I better get myself an anonymous proxy server now then.neo@lex wrote:
Oh yeah, they changed the date too. I forgot about that.
Hopefully, the Ipredator proxy server that Loginer recommended to me in another thread will be good enough for my needs.Yeah, I noticed that too. It looks like we have found a bug on the forum, since it's back to saying over 1 month ago now.strager wrote:
Above wrote:
Posted: 03 May 2010, 06:09 (over 2 months ago)
I meant from the 3rd to the 12th. It changedadamskii_uk wrote:
Oh crap, I better get myself an anonymous proxy server now then.neo@lex wrote:
Oh yeah, they changed the date too. I forgot about that.
Btw, what date did the law come into effect?
Some Wifi Is For Just Geting Your Infoadamskii_uk wrote:
I only heard about this new UK law being passed after visiting a bittorrent site a couple of days ago, and the DEA 2010 was mentioned on the front page of the site. No members of my family had even heard about the DEA 2010, even though they frequently watch the news, read newspapers, and read teletext, etc, so I'm not sure how many osu! members in the UK currently know about the new law, since I've done a search on the osu! forum and no one is talking about it. Since osu! contains alot of copyrighted content in the form of beatmaps (audio, video and images), skins, and some copyrighted avatar/sig images on the forum, etc, as of June 12 this year, this will effectively make the osu! website in it's current form, illegal to everyone in the UK.
To try and keep this post short, I will briefly mention some of the main problems this new law will cause to osu! members in the UK. If you want to know more about the Digital Economy Act 2010, then I suggest visiting the links I have added to the bottom of this post.
1) As from June 12 of this year, it will be illegal for anyone in the UK to visit ANY website that contains copyrighted material which you have not payed to view/access, this includes all copyrighted videos, music, images, etc. This means it will be illegal for people in the UK to visit sites like osu!, YouTube, and possibly even search engines such as Google could be blocked. There are rumours across the internet that this new law could force YouTube offline, due to people frequently posting copyrighted material on there, both purposely and accidentally (visit 2nd link below for details).
2) There will be a three strike rule, and this basically means that if you, or any other members of your household get caught viewing or downloading copyright material which you have not payed for, and this happens three times, you and all members of your household could be possibly banned from the internet for life.
3) This new law could possibly make open WIFI illegal, or at the very least, make open WIFI too dangerous to share with the general public because the owners of the connection could be prosecuted if the connection is used to view any copyrighted material that hasn't been payed for. So this could force alot of internet cafe's to close down because it would be too risky for them.
4) Since this new law will cost ISPs up to £500 million to implement, it could end up resulting with a massive increase in broadband prices in the UK.
5) WIFI hacking/stealing will most likely become a widespread problem in the UK, due to people being banned from the internet, or not wanting to risk downloading illegal content on their own internet connections for the risk of being banned for life, etc.
6) You could be forced to continue to pay for your internet connection, even if your ISP bans you from accessing the internet, due to 12 month contracts, etc.
7) There could be upto a £50,000 fine, and possible jail time for the worst offenders.
8) Internet radio such as Shoutcast on Winamp might be blocked or forced offline.
h**p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Economy_Act_2010
h**p://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-03/04/youtube-under-threat-from-proposed-uk-copyright-bill?page=all
h**p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezxe3idN5pU
h**p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHFhD5MwzBs&feature=PlayList&p=AD4D247C2525AF71&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=6
h**p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwgWJnWDyJI
h**p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imnipgLXLJo
h**p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4S4siQAfY4
h**p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJwqeZK9qyM
h**p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDU-2RGcJKQ
h**p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUiFdUsQv7Y
But ppy Could Remove Or Disable All There Accounts 
