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Metro Station - Where's My Angel?

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dlguiga
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, April 11, 2010 at 2:33:58 PM

Artist: Metro Station
Title: Where's My Angel?
Tags: almost alice wonderland tim burton johnny depp
BPM: 147
Filesize: 8243kb
Play Time: 02:02
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.71 stars, 128 notes)
  2. Hard (4.95 stars, 436 notes)
  3. Normal (4.07 stars, 278 notes)
Download: Metro Station - Where's My Angel?
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My third beatmap.

This song is from the album Almost Alice, a compilation of songs inspired by the movie (yes, the movie, not the book) Alice in Wonderland, by Tim Burton. I expect to be able to make more songs from this album too :)
Breeze
I love the movie, and love the Avril Lavigne's song for this movie more ._.
Maybe this song I would love, too.
When you finished this map, feel free to PM me to mod it
willnight
Nice! i love Alice ^^
Diasios
[General]

  • • Delete the .osb file, then "Full submission"
    • Source: Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland

    • Offset: 5330 (resnap all notes)
    • Sample volume: 8,5
[Normal]

  • • 02:06:138 (8) - New combo
    • 02:11:443 (7) - ^
    • 02:18:790 (9) - ^
    • 02:24:504 (7) - ^
[Hard]

  • • 01:28:592 (6) - New combo
Topic Starter
dlguiga

xxheroxx wrote:

[General]

  • • Delete the .osb file, then "Full submission" Fixed
    • Source: Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland Fixed
    • Offset: 5330 (resnap all notes) Fixed
    • Sample volume: 8,5 Fixed
[Normal]

  • • 02:06:138 (8) - New combo Fixed
    • 02:11:443 (7) - ^ Fixed
    • 02:18:790 (9) - ^ Fixed
    • 02:24:504 (7) - ^ Fixed
[Hard]

  • • 01:28:592 (6) - New combo
Don't agree with the new combo in hard, but I've fixed all the other ones, thanks! :D
Cheroso
Nice! i love Alice ^^ [2]




































































































































































very good!
hours gives!
very cool!
Muraokaps
Dlbixa, bom mapa.
Breeze
[General]
  1. You didn't add source as xxheroxx said, please add it
  2. almost and in no need add to tags, you can add " Johnny Depp" to tags since background is him
  3. If there are sound change, you should put timing section before note instead of right on notes, such as 00:44:511, But here is KIAI start, so you should add another timing section like this but without KIAI set 1/4 or 1/2 beat forward 00:44:511
[Easy]
  1. 00:44:000 (1) - Reverse at here (blue tick), delete (2)
  2. 00:50:224 (1) - Slider starts here, yours seem fine, too
  3. 01:02:468 (x) - KIAI ends here
  4. 01:36:242 (1) - Reverse here, also delete 2
  5. 01:42:466 (1) - Slider starts here, depends on you, other like this I wouldn't point out, both fine
  6. 01:54:914 (x) - Delete all unused timing section after this
[Normal]
  1. Fine
[Hard]
  1. HP Drain Rate too high, reduce 1-3 tick
  2. 00:08:186 (5) - 1 grid up (lv3)
  3. 00:11:247 (2) - Hidden reverse arrow, suggest reduce a reverse, add a note stack here
star
aRiskOfRain
Hard;

00:08:186 (5) - Up 1 grid.

Good!
Topic Starter
dlguiga
Fixed everything, thanks you two!

However, this song wasn't featured in the movie itself, so Alice in Wonderland shouldn't be in source (at least this is what I believe).
SamiPale
as your request

[Easy]
00:18:696(T) - unnecessary green line,delete this timing section and do hitsound setting on red line
01:54:710 - i think end with vocal's part end is better(suggestion)

[Normal]
00:53:898(3) - up 1 grid on lv3
01:48:792(1) - ugly shape slider lol
02:48:992 - i think end with vocal's part end is better(suggestion)

[Hard]
It's too hard,really.I'm a #2000 player but I failed almost time...Try to reduce HP drain 1~2 tick?

neat map,star
Shulin
General:

-- Delete .osb and full submit.

Easy:

01:37:160 (2) - Stack this with 01:37:976 (4) - using grid snap.
01:45:743 (1) - Move this further away from the previous note, (with distance snap) to reduce overlap.
01:53:894 (4) - Is a weird place to end. 02:02:873 is better.

Normal:

01:10:835 (1,2) - Use a slider here imo, vocals seem a little later...
02:58:379 -- Would be a better ending imo.

Hard:

00:15:125 (1,2) - Placement is weird here, maybe make 1 an extra return to match earlier? Or maybe reduce a return from 00:14:308 (3) - idk.
00:46:347 (x) - Note?
00:46:551 (x) - ^
00:46:755 (x) - ^ - I felt the gaps in the chorus were a bit empty, since its the chorus I was expecting more notes and not gaps between the vocal, just my opinion when playing it ^_^
00:52:877 (x) - ^
00:53:081 (x) - ^
00:53:285 (x) - ^ - Yeah, it definitely feels weird without beats because the beat is still heavy.
00:59:407 (x) - ^
00:59:612 (x) - ^
00:59:816 (x) - ^ etc. etc.
02:37:054 (3) - Delete? It was weird it's the only triple you've used in the map.
02:55:726 (1) - Feels too close to the previous note.
02:58:379 -- I think this would be a better ending if you ended it with a spinner of something. The breaks at the end felt weird.
03:10:827 (9) - Ending is a bit abrupt.

Nice overall, I would have liked more notes in Hard especially on the chorus, but all suggestions :P

~ Star.
Nikkkkku
Wow, awesome song and beatmap. Have a (well deserved) star.
Topic Starter
dlguiga
Fixed everything that was wrong. The endings in both Easy and Normal are now at 02:58:379, following Shulin's suggestion. I also used his suggestion about some filling notes in the chorus in Hard. Since the map had become much harder than I had planned before, I increased the hitcircle size and lowered the HP drain by 1 tick each. Now the map is actually easier than before (hope you can fc it now, samipale). The ending in Hard was also reworked, and now doesn't have any breaks.

Thanks for modding! :D
James2250
make kiai time on normal and hard the same
you don't need almost in tags
osb file still needs to be deleted
add some hitsounds before 00:18:390 on all difficulties?
sorry for nazi but you can pick and choose what you want to follow (don't forget to fix any spacing problems when moving notes to align)

Easy:
00:43:490 (1,2,3) - spacing
00:48:184 (2,4) - align?
00:52:673 (4) - stack with 2?
01:18:794 (4) - make symmetrical
01:00:020 (1) - could be slightly more symmetrical
01:18:794 (4) - ^
01:25:732 (5) - align vertically with 1
01:27:365 (1,3) - align?
01:28:997 (5) - align with 1
01:35:732 (1,2,3) - spacing
01:44:915 (4) - stack with 2
01:53:894 (4) - make symmetrical?
I agree it would sound better ending at 02:02:873

Normal:
00:15:941 (2,3,4,5) - align?
01:17:978 (2,4,5,6,7) - align all of this?
02:11:443 (1) - remove new combo
02:12:260 (3) - new combo
02:24:504 (1) - remove new combo
02:25:728 (3) - new combo
02:42:666 (1) - could look nicer
02:47:767 (4,5,6) - move 1 grid down to make the line straight?

Hard:
01:17:569 (1) - make symmetrical?
01:23:692 (1) - might want to move closer to the center so its easier to hit after the spinner
01:51:649 (7) - make symmetrical?
kinda long break...try and break it up into smaller breaks if you can
odd place to end the map...might want to try mapping until the end progressively making the notes quieter..but up to you

*star*
Topic Starter
dlguiga
Fixed all the spacing, alignment and symmetry issues. Also fixed the ending in Easy and the kiai in Hard. I will leave the ending in Hard as it currently is, however.

Almost Alice is the name of the album, so I believe it should be in tags.

Thanks James2250! :D
gdeath
Overall :
the triple soft-claps are not suitable imo.
here are my some suggestion about hitsound.
take what you want

[Easy]
Sound better if you use slidertick 1.0
00:33:083 (3,4) - remove clap
00:36:960 (6,7) - ^

[Normal]
00:34:103 (6,7) - remove clap
00:36:348 (3,4) - ^
01:25:528 (5,6) - ^
01:28:589 (4,5) - ^
01:32:262 (5,6) - ^

[Hard]
Fine

Star!
Garven
[General]
The parts during the chorus when they sing "Where's my...", they beats always feel off because the singers take a moment to get up to full volume when singing the "wh-".
I'd suggest having a spinner at the end of each difficulty. As they stand now, they feel as if they just end suddenly.

[Easy]
The countdown sounds off from the drum beats.
With the hit sound pattern you're going (clap on 2, 4) I'd keep the clap off [1] at 00:31:450 and move it to [2] at 00:31:858.
00:36:960 Triple clap doesn't fit here.
01:14:304 [1] Add Whistle
01:15:121 [3] ^
01:15:937 ^
01:16:753 ^
01:17:569 ^
01:18:386 ^
01:19:202 ^
01:20:018 ^
01:25:732 The claps here don't fit the music at all. Try putting a whistle on 01:25:732, 01:26:344, and 01:26:548 instead.
01:28:997 ^ Follow the same pattern.
01:35:732 The way the singers delay the volume on the first note makes the start of this slider ambiguous, but where you have it now, the return bounce is off. The return needs to be on the white tick at 01:36:344. I suggest just making a non-return slider that ends on the white tick, then use a normal beat with a soft finish sound on 01:36:752.
01:46:955 [2] Maybe center this over the [1] slider?
01:50:220 [3] Point the end of this slider more towards the [4] or try to have a more gradual curve with the next two circles.

[Normal]
The hit sounds are rather different from the easy mode ones, and yet, they pretty much follow the same rhythm. Try to keep the hit sounds consistent if you're pretty much clicking the same stuff.
01:29:405 [7] This slider looks kinda weird.
02:04:505 [4, 5, 6] Remove whistle.
02:05:321 [7] Add whistle to beginning of slider.
Follow that rhythm with the whistles until 02:14:300, then continue again from 02:15:933 to 02:27:361.

[Hard]
00:14:308 [3, 1, 2] The way you progress these sliders is really unintuitive. A four hit, three hit, then four hit slider when the beat is steadily going on is kind of weird. I can see that they're changing to the vocal part, but that's not what I'm listening to when I'm doing steady 1/8th notes with the drums.
00:56:346 [11, 1] This jump doesn't feel like it should be one. It'd be better if you deleted 11, then did a jump.
01:10:835 [1, 2] Although these beats are in time with the music, it doesn't feel right with the syncopated vocals and bass for the sole accompaniment.
01:38:997 [9, 1] Same thing as 00:56:346.

SPOILER
You mentioned mod4mod while I was in the middle of this, so it's up to you if you want to mod back or not.
Lizbeth
Add Alice In Wonderland in source. Remove it from tags (remember to do it in all diff)
delete .osb file

Hard
00:19:206 (3) - add repeat
00:24:920 - add note
00:26:348 (2) - remove and add a single note @ 00:26:553
00:35:123 (1) - you could separate this a bit more from prev combo
00:43:490 (1) - make this 1 beat length and place it @ 00:43:694, then add note @ 00:44:306
00:49:204 (10) - shorten by 1/2 beat
00:50:020 (1) - start 1/2 beat later.. endpoint @00:50:633
01:09:203 (1) - end 1/2 beat earlier
01:23:692 (1) - i thinks is to fast after spinner.. consider shorten spinner bye 1/2 beat
01:24:916 - add circle, seems like missing note here
01:35:732 (1) - start 1/2 beat later (same as I pointed above in this part of the song)
01:42:262 (1) - same here, slider: start point @01:42:466 - Endpoint @01:42:874 - and add circle @ 01:43:078
01:48:792 (1) - i don't like this jump... unpredictable
add note @ 02:01:444 and @02:01:648
02:29:605 (1) - same as i said about this part of the song
02:36:136 (1) - ^ and every apart like this,, wont point it again @.@
sudden end >.< why not end it with the last spinner u have there

Normal
omg too hard for a normal @.@
about rhythm: same suggestion at the beginning of the chorus as Hard (same goes with the Easy)

Easy
this is more like a Normal diff <---
01:10:835 (1) - remove and add single note @ 01:11:039
Topic Starter
dlguiga
Sorry for taking so long, I've been busy studying lately. I've updated the map with your corrections. However, I didn't change the chorus yet. I'll check it again later. Thanks for modding, Lizbeth :)
Sakura
Red = Unrankable, you should fix if you want this song ranked
Purple = Issue, It's better if you fix this, and can sometimes pass if justified
Blue = Minor issue, you can ignore if you dont want to change
Green = Feedback / Comments
Black = Suggestion

[General]
Stack Leniency -2
Delete .osb in the folder and full submit

[Easy]
No errors found
Inconsistent mapping, all diffs must be about the same length in mapping, i've seen bubbles popped for this

[Normal]
No problems found

[Hard]
01:46:343 (2) - I personally think theese kinds of sliders look ugly
No problems found

I cant +Star with still remaining issues on it, sorry
Larto
BPM: 147.00
Offset: 5333

Hard:
00:43:496 (1) - Make this slider start 1/2 later, it plays better. The actual word "Where" 's emphasis starts on the white tick, not on the red one.
Do the same for the sliders similar to this one.

Normal:
00:43:496 (1) - Make this slider start 1/2 later, it plays better. The actual word "Where" 's emphasis starts on the white tick, not on the red one.
Do the same for the sliders similar to this one.

Easy:
00:41:654 (1) - This spinner is a bit too short for an Easy.
00:43:496 (1) - Make this slider start 1/2 later, it plays better. The actual word "Where" 's emphasis starts on the white tick, not on the red one.
Do the same for the sliders similar to this one.
01:00:020 (5) - New Combo.
Topic Starter
dlguiga
Fixed them all. Thanks Larto! :D
Larto
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Shohei Ohtani
Yay nice job getting this ranked :3~.

Sorry I couldn't mod this ;~;.
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