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Is this the new "road to cookiezi tier" thread?
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It's the 7th week, so that's why it looks like that, and also, right now I'm literally using all my free time on osu, I can't do much more D:KukiMonster wrote:
That is not how you play more. This is how you play more. Hit 1 million notes every month.lilelf29 wrote:
Well we'll soon see as I'll have the same play count as you have now in 3~ months which is very soon, and yet I almost guarantee I won't be anywhere close to where you are.
With college and work taking up 55-60 hours a week I just try the most I can
Although I must commend you on your commitment and improvement.
There's a difference between "hvick is a better player than me" and "I'm a shittier player than hvick"lilelf29 wrote:
What you said about mindset is really interesting, especially since I thought it was normal to admit how bad you are. Even more so since if you don't everyone you speak to will tell you suck for you if you believe otherwise.
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There is, although both are true.Tess wrote:
There's a difference between "hvick is a better player than me" and "I'm a shittier player than hvick"lilelf29 wrote:
What you said about mindset is really interesting, especially since I thought it was normal to admit how bad you are. Even more so since if you don't everyone you speak to will tell you suck for you if you believe otherwise.
But it is pretty hard to see what you've done well/achieved when you are yet to actually achieve anything; this is even more difficult because what you classify as an achievement is subjective and if you have the mindset that you've achieved something (from what I've seen) you just get belittled back down into thinking you haven't.
I am of the opinion that I have currently achieved nothing and openly admit I am very bad at this game.
Just like 90% of us, welcome to osss!lilelf29 wrote:
I have currently achieved nothing and openly admit I am very bad at this game.
You're not bad, you're inexperienced. People are really pessimistic, self-loathing creatures, and they'll try to bring themselves (and each other) down at every opportunity they can find. They bring themselves down because they feel like they're not good enough and they bring others down because the grass is greener on the other side.lilelf29 wrote:
But it is pretty hard to see what you've done well/achieved when you are yet to actually achieve anything; this is even more difficult because what you classify as an achievement is subjective and if you have the mindset that you've achieved something (from what I've seen) you just get belittled back down into thinking you haven't.
I am of the opinion that I have currently achieved nothing and openly admit I am very bad at this game.
I mean, think about it. Let's say you meet a hobo who tells you that he used to be a hard working man but then his grandfather died and he inherited his ginormous debts and lost everything, still being in debt to several companies to this day. Would you make fun of him for that? I can't think of anyone in their right mind who would see that as a reason to make fun of him, or put him down by saying he's a broke fuck or something. Yes, he is broke, he's homeless, he has less money than most people - that's an undeniable fact. But if he found a shitty job at the McDonalds a week later and barely earned any pay while trying his best, would he be shit? Would he suck? Would he be bad?
No, because despite it being incredibly hard for him, he's still trying his best to work himself back into a normal life from the bottom up. Even if he may not end up as a millionaire in the future, if he managed to end up with a decent job, clear out all his debts and buy a decent house, that'd be way more impressive than someone who was born in a wealthy family and inherited their father's business after he died. It's similar everywhere, really. People won't really bring someone down for not being good at something, they'll only bring someone down out of jealousy or some other personal problem. So don't let it get to you because someone belittling you for something is most likely just mad at themselves about something else.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that you need to stop looking at your progress relative to that of others. That only really holds you back. Reason being that seeing someone else as #1 automatically makes you believe you're #2, and even if you'd have the capacity to #1, you believing that you can't make it there will prevent you from making it there. That's just how brains work. If instead of trying to compete with others you compete with yourself, you will most likely achieve the most optimal results. Because you can't really get jealous at yourself, or say that you aren't as predisposed at being good at this game as yourself. That said, some people will still get jealous at their past selves (I know I did) and that works pretty much the same as being jealous at someone else, it's only a tad bit dumber.
The best thing to do is look at your progress relative to yourself. If you beat your top performance, that's an achievement, and you should be proud of it, no matter what kind of performance it is. When I got my current top performance, I was super proud and excited about it, and I still am proud of it. Should I be less proud of it because it's not a Remote Control HDDT FC worth >550pp? Wouldn't it be much more productive to use my pride and excitement for that score as a fuel to get more similar and possibly even better scores than to call myself shit just because it's not the best of the best?
This community doesn't help, though. I know of the Touhou community that they'll be much more impressed at someone who manages to clear their first Hard after weeks of trying than at a veteran player who 1cc's a Lunatic for the umptieth time. Yes, it's very impressive to watch a pro player do their thing, but it's much harder for a shit player to clear a Hard than it is for a pro player to 1cc a Lunatic.
Perhaps it'd help if everybody didn't go full Oprah with "I suck! You suck! Everybody sucks !!!!xcept cokesi xD" and actually praised each other for their achievements no matter where on the progress bar they are, so long as it's an improvement from what they were already good at. By that logic, hvick's Hoshizora play is just as impressive as a 50K who FCs their first Insane after going through a lot of trouble and effort to get there. To me, the 50K would be more impressive, but I expect most players will continue to stay superficial and only be impressed by what they can't do, rather than compliment each other for their hard work.
One thing you'll eventually learn in life is that it's never beneficial to compare yourself to others. There are a lot of things to be said in support of this but I'm currently procrastinating the finishing touches of a half assed white paper due in a hour so I'll spare you the details and cut straight to an example of this.
I help out with a program for middle school and high school students targeted at getting children involved in abstract (aka pure) mathematics at a young age. Many of the students are children of professors or similar and tend to be quite intelligent. One day I was helping with the middle school section and two students started bickering. It's not uncommon for middle school students to get into arguments and until it gets physical I usually let things play out as a valuable learning experience (probably a mistake).
I can't recall what the actual argument was about but it eventually devolved into the 5th grader saying, "yeah, well you're stupid. I'm a 5th grader in 9th grade math" or something like that and the 8th grader countering with something like "I'm an 8th grader and I'm learning calculus right now." It was pretty obvious this line of argument was going nowhere. In the end, both students kept arguing by trying to compare what they thought to be their best points and ended up both feeling really stupid.
Now you may point out, "I'm not comparing myself and saying I'm better than anyone." While this is true, you are still comparing yourself to people who are much better than yourself at the game. The point is, there will always be somebody better than you. It's a fact. Cookiezi may have been a great osu! player, but I'm sure nowadays as he pursues other endeavors he realizes how pointless this is. If you find enjoyment out of improving and being good at this game then that's great, more power to you. Just realize that, as a person, you are better than people at some things, and they are better than you at others.
Accept the fact that your value as a person, besides being completely subjective, is a compilation of your many qualities. You cannot compare the net worth of 2 people, only specific traits. Revel in the fact that each person is unique in their own way and live your life the way that you enjoy (while conforming to societal norms preferably). Set your goals based on specific maps that you want to able to play/pass/fc and not specific ranks you want to obtain.
Anyways, that was more long winded than I planned but I do really have to get back to half-assing this paper so I don't drop from an A in the course.
I help out with a program for middle school and high school students targeted at getting children involved in abstract (aka pure) mathematics at a young age. Many of the students are children of professors or similar and tend to be quite intelligent. One day I was helping with the middle school section and two students started bickering. It's not uncommon for middle school students to get into arguments and until it gets physical I usually let things play out as a valuable learning experience (probably a mistake).
I can't recall what the actual argument was about but it eventually devolved into the 5th grader saying, "yeah, well you're stupid. I'm a 5th grader in 9th grade math" or something like that and the 8th grader countering with something like "I'm an 8th grader and I'm learning calculus right now." It was pretty obvious this line of argument was going nowhere. In the end, both students kept arguing by trying to compare what they thought to be their best points and ended up both feeling really stupid.
Now you may point out, "I'm not comparing myself and saying I'm better than anyone." While this is true, you are still comparing yourself to people who are much better than yourself at the game. The point is, there will always be somebody better than you. It's a fact. Cookiezi may have been a great osu! player, but I'm sure nowadays as he pursues other endeavors he realizes how pointless this is. If you find enjoyment out of improving and being good at this game then that's great, more power to you. Just realize that, as a person, you are better than people at some things, and they are better than you at others.
Accept the fact that your value as a person, besides being completely subjective, is a compilation of your many qualities. You cannot compare the net worth of 2 people, only specific traits. Revel in the fact that each person is unique in their own way and live your life the way that you enjoy (while conforming to societal norms preferably). Set your goals based on specific maps that you want to able to play/pass/fc and not specific ranks you want to obtain.
Anyways, that was more long winded than I planned but I do really have to get back to half-assing this paper so I don't drop from an A in the course.
Being realistic, yes, he would suck, he would be bad. Ofc you wouldn't tell him that or make fun of him for that, cos that is a much more serious, important topic, and you would come off as insensitive and a dick for that, since real life in general is much harder and more serious than being good at a game, and not even a competitive game at that, osu is more for fun than the games with e-sports communities and people making a living off of them. I couldn't really give a shit if someone told me I'm bad at a game, but I can see how someone like that hobo might be upset if you called him bad for his situation.Tess wrote:
I mean, think about it. Let's say you meet a hobo who tells you that he used to be a hard working man but then his grandfather died and he inherited his ginormous debts and lost everything, still being in debt to several companies to this day. Would you make fun of him for that? I can't think of anyone in their right mind who would see that as a reason to make fun of him, or put him down by saying he's a broke fuck or something. Yes, he is broke, he's homeless, he has less money than most people - that's an undeniable fact. But if he found a shitty job at the McDonalds a week later and barely earned any pay while trying his best, would he be shit? Would he suck? Would he be bad?
Tl;dr games (or at least osu and other non competitive games) and being bad at them don't matter, having a good job and a home and shit IRL does.
An achievement I'd like to see is this thread locked
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Did you know that watching someone get abused and mistreated makes your brain react similarly to the brain of the person being abused?cheezstik wrote:
Being realistic, yes, he would suck, he would be bad. Ofc you wouldn't tell him that or make fun of him for that, cos that is a much more serious, important topic, and you would come off as insensitive and a dick for that, since real life in general is much harder and more serious than being good at a game, and not even a competitive game at that, osu is more for fun than the games with e-sports communities and people making a living off of them. I couldn't really give a shit if someone told me I'm bad at a game, but I can see how someone like that hobo might be upset if you called him bad for his situation.
Tl;dr games (or at least osu and other non competitive games) and being bad at them don't matter, having a good job and a home and shit IRL does.
Or that when someone attacks you verbally, your body and brain respond in the same way as when someone would attack you physically?
Or that telling someone that they're bad at a game affects them just as much as telling them that they're bad at anything else?
Thing is, people like to attach values to things. "This is good", "this is okay", "this is horrible", "this is very good", and "that is very bad". But each person attaches different kinds of values to different things, and then fails to understand how someone else could value things differently than they do. Most people think that they understand what's right and wrong while there isn't really an objective right or wrong. Those are just words for things people like and don't like.
So, yes. It is true that having a house and a way to put food on the table should be prioritized over a game. However, fact of the matter is that someone who doesn't have to worry about those things will prioritize things that aren't a basal need for them. And then a game can become very important, sometimes it becomes even more important than eating to someone. Sure, it might not be what they need, but that doesn't make it any less important to them. Who are you to tell them that their most important thing in life doesn't matter? Would you say that their mother doesn't matter? I can see you thinking "lol but this is a game it's very different from mothers", but the fact that people need a mother more than a game doesn't change the fact that saying a game someone cares about a lot doesn't matter is a similar act.
Always remember that people will think in ways that you don't, can't and won't understand, and you need to respect that. You can only really say something about if they're, say, neglecting their children because they care more about the game. That's not the case in this context though.
In short, how important something is to you or to humans in general doesn't change the fact that talking down on something important to someone else is a horrible thing to do, especially if that thing doesn't harm them or others in the slightest.
tldr itt: stop writing 7 paragraph posts about ways to get good and instead start playing the game
Well, what you say is true, but I won't randomly talk to someone and say they are bad, I would only tell someone what I think of them if they asked "am I good?" or "how am I at osu" or something along those lines. Ofc I'm gonna give a realistic answer, if they didn't wanna hear that, then they are obviously just fishing for compliments, or should've just said "tell me I'm good pls", and I don't really care if I offend a person like that, cos they are just asking for it. If neither of those are the case, then they don't mind being called bad, cos they are also realistic.Tess wrote:
In short, how important something is to you or to humans in general doesn't change the fact that talking down on something important to someone else is a horrible thing to do, especially if that thing doesn't harm them or others in the slightest.
Aim for the stars my friends : 3
My point though is that the way you approach giving such feedback can make or break a player. Here are several answers you can give to a mediocre player asking "Am I good?":cheezstik wrote:
Well, what you say is true, but I won't randomly talk to someone and say they are bad, I would only tell someone what I think of them if they asked "am I good?" or "how am I at osu" or something along those lines. Ofc I'm gonna give a realistic answer, if they didn't wanna hear that, then they are obviously just fishing for compliments, or should've just said "tell me I'm good pls", and I don't really care if I offend a person like that, cos they are just asking for it. If neither of those are the case, then they don't mind being called bad, cos they are also realistic.
"No." "Better than the really shitty players." "Do you think you're good?" "Are you better than you used to be?" "Does it matter?" "lol no" "Yeah you're awesome!!"
Among others. As you can see some of these are downright cold or mean, while others are lies or white lies, and yet others are true but also not hurtful. That's what I like about the Touhou community - they won't tell you you're pro if you're not, but they will commend you for the achievements you did make, no matter how easy those are for most players - as long as they were hard to achieve for you.
So basically just watch your wording because it matters way more than you think.
"do things without thinking about them that'll help u 4 sur"x_Co0ki420ezi_x wrote:
tldr itt: stop writing 7 paragraph posts about ways to get good and instead start playing the game
It's worth mentioning that this isn't really a proper analogy. Unlike the homeless man, new players aren't working out of a hole they've fallen into, they're just starting from the ground up. The homeless man would earn (rightfully) a lot more sympathy because he's suffered misfortune that wasn't his own doing.Tess wrote:
I mean, think about it. Let's say you meet a hobo who tells you that he used to be a hard working man but then his grandfather died and he inherited his ginormous debts and lost everything, still being in debt to several companies to this day. Would you make fun of him for that?
There's no reason not to be honest with new players about where they stand as long as they know that they can always improve if they put the effort in.
The time spent writing the posts in this thread would undoubtedly be better spent actually playing if the goal is to improve. Unless the discussion is about practice methods, forum participation has no impact on performance.Tess wrote:
"do things without thinking about them that'll help u 4 sur"
Analogies don't have to be precise, provided that the point they're meant to make is properly understood. In this case, it was understood what I meant with the analogy, so it did its job.Narrill wrote:
It's worth mentioning that this isn't really a proper analogy. Unlike the homeless man, new players aren't working out of a hole they've fallen into, they're just starting from the ground up. The homeless man would earn (rightfully) a lot more sympathy because he's suffered misfortune that wasn't his own doing.
Read my above post about approach, where I very clearly state that dishonesty isn't the way to go, just the way you present your honesty is what matters. But hey, only replying to part of what I said to get a nonexistent point across is fine too, once in a while.Narrill wrote:
There's no reason not to be honest with new players about where they stand as long as they know that they can always improve if they put the effort in.
Have you ever heard of breaks?Narrill wrote:
The time spent writing the posts in this thread would undoubtedly be better spent actually playing if the goal is to improve. Unless the discussion is about practice methods, forum participation has no impact on performance.Tess wrote:
"do things without thinking about them that'll help u 4 sur"
They help you improve
Yeah but like you said to narrill, being honest is one thing, and being a dick is another. You can be honest without being a dick, and even if someone does seem like a dick, I honestly have no problem with them if they are just being objective and stating the truth. When they start saying shit like "lel u fkn rank 30k scrub, I bet u can't ev3n pass airman, I hop ur dad kills himself cos of how bad u are at clicking circles lel trololo!!!!11!1" then it gets kinda obnoxious.Tess wrote:
My point though is that the way you approach giving such feedback can make or break a player. Here are several answers you can give to a mediocre player asking "Am I good?":
"No." "Better than the really shitty players." "Do you think you're good?" "Are you better than you used to be?" "Does it matter?" "lol no" "Yeah you're awesome!!"
Among others. As you can see some of these are downright cold or mean, while others are lies or white lies, and yet others are true but also not hurtful.
Also, god dayum, they should rename "gameplay & rankings" to "Tess and Narrill try to catch each other saying slightly wrong things and then argue about it".
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Analogies don't have to be precise, provided that the point they're meant to make is properly understood. In this case, it was understood what I meant with the analogy, so it did its job.
What I got out of that post is that we should avoid ever comparing players to one another and instead compare them only to themselves. I'm telling you that I think there's nothing wrong with comparing players to one another because it provides context.Tess wrote:
Read my above post about approach, where I very clearly state that dishonesty isn't the way to go, just the way you present your honesty is what matters. But hey, only replying to part of what I said to get a nonexistent point across is fine too, once in a while.
Okay okay, so it's possible the time spent writing these posts isn't outright wasted. That doesn't make forum participation any more productive than I claimed.Tess wrote:
Have you ever heard of breaks?
They help you improve
To be fair, I've always been like this.cheezstik wrote:
Also, god dayum, they should rename "gameplay & rankings" to "Tess and Narrill try to catch each other saying slightly wrong things and then argue about it".
1 shitpost = 1 pp
peppy get on it pls
peppy get on it pls
That's already how it works for me.x_Co0ki420ezi_x wrote:
1 shitpost = 1 pp
peppy get on it pls
yes
Wow nocheezstik wrote:
Also, god dayum, they should rename "gameplay & rankings" to "Tess and Narrill try to catch each other saying slightly wrong things and then argue about it".
I refuse to become an meme
I have a hard time not replying to stuff I disagree with and I'm gonna guess Narrill does too.
He should be number one thenx_Co0ki420ezi_x wrote:
1 shitpost = 1 pp
peppy get on it pls
Topic Starter
While watching you all discuss is really interesting and pretty enjoyable, it is rather off-topic D:
Topic Starter
I have to admit this reply is the most interesting of them all, and I do agree with practically all that you say.Tess wrote:
You're not bad, you're inexperienced. People are really pessimistic, self-loathing creatures, and they'll try to bring themselves (and each other) down at every opportunity they can find. They bring themselves down because they feel like they're not good enough and they bring others down because the grass is greener on the other side.
I mean, think about it. Let's say you meet a hobo who tells you that he used to be a hard working man but then his grandfather died and he inherited his ginormous debts and lost everything, still being in debt to several companies to this day. Would you make fun of him for that? I can't think of anyone in their right mind who would see that as a reason to make fun of him, or put him down by saying he's a broke fuck or something. Yes, he is broke, he's homeless, he has less money than most people - that's an undeniable fact. But if he found a shitty job at the McDonalds a week later and barely earned any pay while trying his best, would he be shit? Would he suck? Would he be bad?
No, because despite it being incredibly hard for him, he's still trying his best to work himself back into a normal life from the bottom up. Even if he may not end up as a millionaire in the future, if he managed to end up with a decent job, clear out all his debts and buy a decent house, that'd be way more impressive than someone who was born in a wealthy family and inherited their father's business after he died. It's similar everywhere, really. People won't really bring someone down for not being good at something, they'll only bring someone down out of jealousy or some other personal problem. So don't let it get to you because someone belittling you for something is most likely just mad at themselves about something else.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that you need to stop looking at your progress relative to that of others. That only really holds you back. Reason being that seeing someone else as #1 automatically makes you believe you're #2, and even if you'd have the capacity to #1, you believing that you can't make it there will prevent you from making it there. That's just how brains work. If instead of trying to compete with others you compete with yourself, you will most likely achieve the most optimal results. Because you can't really get jealous at yourself, or say that you aren't as predisposed at being good at this game as yourself. That said, some people will still get jealous at their past selves (I know I did) and that works pretty much the same as being jealous at someone else, it's only a tad bit dumber.
The best thing to do is look at your progress relative to yourself. If you beat your top performance, that's an achievement, and you should be proud of it, no matter what kind of performance it is. When I got my current top performance, I was super proud and excited about it, and I still am proud of it. Should I be less proud of it because it's not a Remote Control HDDT FC worth >550pp? Wouldn't it be much more productive to use my pride and excitement for that score as a fuel to get more similar and possibly even better scores than to call myself shit just because it's not the best of the best?
This community doesn't help, though. I know of the Touhou community that they'll be much more impressed at someone who manages to clear their first Hard after weeks of trying than at a veteran player who 1cc's a Lunatic for the umptieth time. Yes, it's very impressive to watch a pro player do their thing, but it's much harder for a shit player to clear a Hard than it is for a pro player to 1cc a Lunatic.
Perhaps it'd help if everybody didn't go full Oprah with "I suck! You suck! Everybody sucks !!!!xcept cokesi xD" and actually praised each other for their achievements no matter where on the progress bar they are, so long as it's an improvement from what they were already good at. By that logic, hvick's Hoshizora play is just as impressive as a 50K who FCs their first Insane after going through a lot of trouble and effort to get there. To me, the 50K would be more impressive, but I expect most players will continue to stay superficial and only be impressed by what they can't do, rather than compliment each other for their hard work.tl;dr In an ideal world FL would be a respected and honorable mod
However, the problem is that you can go on periods of where you play worse than you were last week, it's pretty hard to sense achievement when you've done better before. I try to only compare myself to myself as so many have more experience and have more natural talent than I. Also it's almost impossible to be proud (although this is coming from someone who's never experienced pride), when you're so inconsistent that your play varies so much minute in minute out.
But thankyou for the awesome input.
I know it's easier said than done, haha. Around 10 months ago I was suddenly experiencing a massive skill increase (and by massive I mean really massive) where I went from barely being able to keep up with AR8 DTs to being able to do AR9 DT and almost any HR with ease, and generally I'd end up in multi lobbies with players almost 10x my rank and I'd still end up on top in almost every match (I was around 6K, and most people I played with were 2K-500). That got me super excited, and being someone that likes to push her limits, I kept playing harder and harder stuff until one day I played pretty much only maps around the difficulty of Talent Shredder DT. On that particular day I'd played all day long, and I have a knack for ignoring pain, so at the end of the day suddenly I couldn't play anything anymore and then realized that my arms were hurting like hell. Anyway long story short up until last week I've barely been able to play anything for the past 10 months, since apparently I'd injured myself pretty badly. I did have moments where I got some of my skill back but those only lasted from around a day to a week before I'd drop back to where I was. During these 10 months I was waaay below what I knew I was capable of, so, trust me, I really know what it's like to play below a skill level you know you have. In that scenario, it's best to try and be proud of what you achieve with your limited skill at that moment.
I'm still trying to find a way to stay close to my max skill level at all times. I know that that was something Cookiezi was capable of and I'd really like to learn how to do that. If anyone has any advice on that that'd be awesome.
Also you're welcome glad I could help
I'm still trying to find a way to stay close to my max skill level at all times. I know that that was something Cookiezi was capable of and I'd really like to learn how to do that. If anyone has any advice on that that'd be awesome.
Also you're welcome glad I could help
Topic Starter
Actually I so have one question aimed to your experiences and anyone else's if they want to answer.Tess wrote:
I know it's easier said than done, haha. Around 10 months ago I was suddenly experiencing a massive skill increase (and by massive I mean really massive) where I went from barely being able to keep up with AR8 DTs to being able to do AR9 DT and almost any HR with ease, and generally I'd end up in multi lobbies with players almost 10x my rank and I'd still end up on top in almost every match (I was around 6K, and most people I played with were 2K-500). That got me super excited, and being someone that likes to push her limits, I kept playing harder and harder stuff until one day I played pretty much only maps around the difficulty of Talent Shredder DT. On that particular day I'd played all day long, and I have a knack for ignoring pain, so at the end of the day suddenly I couldn't play anything anymore and then realized that my arms were hurting like hell. Anyway long story short up until last week I've barely been able to play anything for the past 10 months, since apparently I'd injured myself pretty badly. I did have moments where I got some of my skill back but those only lasted from around a day to a week before I'd drop back to where I was. During these 10 months I was waaay below what I knew I was capable of, so, trust me, I really know what it's like to play below a skill level you know you have. In that scenario, it's best to try and be proud of what you achieve with your limited skill at that moment.
I'm still trying to find a way to stay close to my max skill level at all times. I know that that was something Cookiezi was capable of and I'd really like to learn how to do that. If anyone has any advice on that that'd be awesome.
Also you're welcome glad I could help
Did you find that you increases over time slowly, had sudden increases in skill over time, or a mixture of both?
I found I jumped up to where I am Right now I've been at a the same level (recently been worse) for ole the last 1/3 of my playtime.
Most if not all progress goes in pedestals
Think of it like walking a huge staircase. The first few steps are easy, but the higher you get, the harder it becomes to climb. So at some point it gets too hard and you need to rest before continuing up the steps a while later. And it's common knowledge that while resting from exertion, you're weaker than you were before applying said exertion. For example, if you do a good workout at the gym, a day later you'll have sore muscles and they won't be as strong as when you headed to the gym a day before that. They'll get weaker and weaker over the next few days and then heal up in a day or two and you'll be stronger and have more stamina than before. (obviously this doesn't happen to people who go to the gym daily but you get the point). The same applies with osu since you exert muscles here as well.
tl;dr what you're experiencing is perfectly normal
Think of it like walking a huge staircase. The first few steps are easy, but the higher you get, the harder it becomes to climb. So at some point it gets too hard and you need to rest before continuing up the steps a while later. And it's common knowledge that while resting from exertion, you're weaker than you were before applying said exertion. For example, if you do a good workout at the gym, a day later you'll have sore muscles and they won't be as strong as when you headed to the gym a day before that. They'll get weaker and weaker over the next few days and then heal up in a day or two and you'll be stronger and have more stamina than before. (obviously this doesn't happen to people who go to the gym daily but you get the point). The same applies with osu since you exert muscles here as well.
tl;dr what you're experiencing is perfectly normal
Topic Starter
So using that logic, playing osu day in day out means you'll reach a point where stamina is never an issue anymore right?Tess wrote:
Most if not all progress goes in pedestals
Think of it like walking a huge staircase. The first few steps are easy, but the higher you get, the harder it becomes to climb. So at some point it gets too hard and you need to rest before continuing up the steps a while later. And it's common knowledge that while resting from exertion, you're weaker than you were before applying said exertion. For example, if you do a good workout at the gym, a day later you'll have sore muscles and they won't be as strong as when you headed to the gym a day before that. They'll get weaker and weaker over the next few days and then heal up in a day or two and you'll be stronger and have more stamina than before. (obviously this doesn't happen to people who go to the gym daily but you get the point). The same applies with osu since you exert muscles here as well.
tl;dr what you're experiencing is perfectly normal
Anyway thanks for all the replies you were very helpful, I appreciate it.
COME ON TESS IT'LL BE FUNTess wrote:
Wow no
I refuse to become an meme
There is only 1 clear correlation here.
The less time you spend on the forums, the better you get.
The less time you spend on the forums, the better you get.
Topic Starter
Wow I never knew not going on here on my phone when at college or work would make me better at osu!xasuma wrote:
There is only 1 clear correlation here.
The less time you spend on the forums, the better you get.
lilelf29 wrote:
Wow I never knew not going on here on my phone when at college or work would make me better at osu!
You could be buying a laptop with a good keyboard and a mouse/tablet during your pauses and after that play osu in the pauses.lilelf29 wrote:
Wow I never knew not going on here on my phone when at college or work would make me better at osu!
Fair enough.Tess wrote:
Silly Swiss
Thinking the rest of the world has money too
TIME TO WORK DURING THE PAUSES AND MAKE MONEY. HURRY, BEFORE YOU GET TOO OLD FOR OSU!