utsuP - MiKUSABBATH · forum

- Milhofo -

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-02-28T19:29:06+00:00

Wow 2 mods in one day ahah

Smug- wrote:
hi, sorry for taking so long :3 No hurry, we all have things to do :3
From my (dead) m4m queue
Only modding 4 diffs since it's a long song And 4 is awesome already

[General]
Maybe grab a custom hitclap, the default one is boring Working on it, trying to find the perfect one
Offset +4 sounds much better to me Me and a couple of people checked the offset in the beginning and this seemed the best one, I might look at it better if more people think this too

[Easy]
00:56:187 (1) - Position so it doesn't overlap This one is on purpose, I really wanted this slider to be straight, I can change if it becomes a problem though
01:11:029 (2) - Move NC to here Oh waw, I never noticed the fail here xd changed!
01:13:556 (2) - ^ ^
01:16:082 (2) - ^ ^
01:22:082 (2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This whole pattern is really squarish and looks ugly to me Squares are patterns too
01:32:503 (2) - Move NC to here Done
01:42:608 (2) - ^ ^
01:43:871 (4,1) - This looks a bit iffy, maybe change keeping
01:47:661 (4) - Heavily consider moving This is a rare exception for the stacking rule, I use 2 on the whole map, hopefully it can be acceptable because it isn't hard to read / play at all
02:29:345 (1) - Maybe make these shapes a bit cleaner: http://puu.sh/gg5cS/82a534f93a.jpg I will consider this, since I like both shapes xD
02:33:135 (3) - Reposition so it doesn't overlap (nazi) This too, because if I move this I have to move 4 which can break flow
02:53:345 (2,3,4) - This also looks a bit squarish Same as ^
03:04:082 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
03:14:187 (2) - You could probably move this down a bit so it's not a straight line I don't dislike squarish patterns in easier diffs (as you can see xD) keeping for now
03:28:714 (4) - Again, heavily consider moving Same as ^

[Normal]
00:31:871 (1) - You could make this slider more interesting True, I'll see what I can do
00:33:135 (1,3,5) - These could also be different as not to repeat the same shape too much mhm they're not so bad
01:13:556 (2) - Move NC to here Same as easy lol
01:16:082 (2) - ^
01:18:608 (2) - ^
01:21:135 (2) - ^
01:30:924 (3) - This shape isn't really that great, to me at least. It looks like a wonky boomerang :3 I love it D:
01:39:450 (2) - You could move this to like x:312 y:196 y coordinate would be too much and ruin DS, changed it to center with the slider however
01:41:029 (3) - This isn't a perfect circle the curve seems fine though (a perfect circle wouldn't allow to build a pattern around it)
02:01:556 (7) - Move NC to here Done
02:06:608 (7) - ^
02:10:398 (1,2,3) - You could probably avoid this straight line here You really don't like square patterns :b
02:17:345 (2) - You could add a curve to this, it might look a bit nicer Ok, I'll think about this one
02:20:503 (2) - Remove NC Allright
02:25:556 (1) - ^
02:28:082 (4) - NC Mhmhm
02:34:714 (2,3,4) - This seems like the perfect opportunity for some blankets I have some right after, it looks good both ways imo
02:44:503 (5) - Move NC to here Okay
02:47:029 (2) - ^
02:51:766 (3) - Again, consider changing, if not for the shape, but for some difference between the two kiais I change the shape in the second repetition of the chorus (2nd kiai)
02:59:661 (1) - Curve maybe? would ruin flow
03:00:608 (1) - Blanket 2 perhaps ^
03:01:871 (3) - To me it looks like you're trying to blanket 1, and it looks really off it's not a blanket itself, but I'm centering it yes
03:16:082 (2) - Move NC to here Done
03:23:661 (2) - ^ no need because combo would be too small
03:24:924 (4) - ^ Done

[Hard]
Very cramped. You're not covering very much space despite having a very high note density and that makes it look messy. Here are some examples:

00:30:135 (4,5,1,2) -
00:34:398 (1,2,3,4) -
00:38:661 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) -
00:44:819 (3,4,5) -
00:47:029 (1,2,3) -

There's a lot more I can highlight, but essentially you should opt for moving your objects in a direction that doesn't cluster them up. As for a few other things

00:37:556 (1) - Since this is the same as the previous two that are supposed to highlight the special part of the song, it makes it seem less special
00:37:871 (2) - Make sure you change this so you can hit the downbeat
00:49:398 (4) - I think a tiny overlap like this is just kinda messy. You can increase the DS here temporarily
00:57:135 (3) - Also make sure you don't do tiny accidental overlaps like this 00:56:503 (3) -
01:03:450 (1) - And even if it's the slidertail, you should try to maximise the space between it and the previous object if you're not trying to use the two objects together (01:03:135 (5) - )

01:10:714 (1) - Make sure you let us hit the downbeat. That goes for the rest of this section too
01:23:661 (1,2,3,4) - I would recommend you change these to sliders (and change some of the next ones to circles if you want) Because the speed up isn't readily apparent due to them being stacked
02:03:135 (1,2,3) - Make sure these don't overlap each other like this
02:14:187 (1) - You can improve this slider look by adding a point before the red one
02:29:345 (2) - NC

02:30:293 (1,2,3) - These are pretty ugly. Change them so they're not so dramatic
02:35:661 (1,2,3,4,5) - I also feel like this is another cramped spot
02:41:661 (9) - Again, make sure you're not doing overlaps like this
02:45:450 (5) - ^
02:45:766 (6) - Maybe add NC here
02:47:029 - For this section, add NC for every two objects: http://puu.sh/ggc1Q/3b9c08040f.jpg
03:39:450 (3,4) - Copy paste 4 and use that for 3

Anyway, this diff is a bit cramped and pretty object heavy; you're probably gonna have to put in a bit of work to polish this up a bit.

Based on yours and CB's mods I will rework this diff, I will still have this mod in mind when remapping though

[Lunatic]

00:31:871 (1) - I don't mean to spoil your slider artwork, but I think a slow down is more suitable for this part
00:39:135 (6,4,8) - Let's try to switch this up I think
00:47:029 (1,3) - Ctrl G these maybe
00:49:556 (5) - Change this one to be the same as 00:49:871 (6) - since you're doing these sliders in pairs
00:53:582 (2) - I don't think this is necessary
00:54:608 (6) - Move so it doesn't overlap 4
01:11:029 (3) - NC
01:13:398 (2) - You could probably move this; with the way stacking works I don't think this will look pretty
01:13:556 (3) - ^
01:27:766 (2) - I think you oughtta make this one different from 1
01:29:503 (5) - make symmetrical to 4
01:29:977 (7) - NC; for my sake. Big combos scare me ;w;
01:31:240 (2) - NC goes here
01:32:503 (7) - NC
01:33:766 (3) - Move NC to here
01:36:135 (3,4,5) - Don't see a reason why these should be on red ticks
01:40:086 (8) - NC

I also noticed there's some triplet inconsistency within your kiai times, and to my knowledge it's not different in the two halves of the first kiai. Make sure that you keep a consistent rhythm inside kiais (at least this makes sense to me)

01:48:928 (9) - NC
01:59:033 (1) - Again, I think these suit slow downs, not speed ups
02:00:612 (6,7,8,9) - These should be sliders to indicate to the player there's a BSD change in the music
02:09:139 (1) - This is all uneven. You can make nicer looking ones by using a red point in the middle of them
02:18:612 (7) - Don't overlap this
02:23:033 (5) - You can achieve these with one point in the middle
02:29:349 - I can see where the 5.23 star rating came from

For the second kiai, please just remember to put your NCs on downbeats. I think you can also afford to put more of them so the numbers don't get so high, but that's just my personal preference.

This diff will also be target of a slight rework, I have to finish Hard first so I can't reply to this right now, sorry but all will be had into account

Maybe I'll come back and mod the other diffs as well, but for now I'm pooped This was a great mod, thanks! It's a huge song so no need for more :3
Good luck! PM me in game if you want any more help

Jewelery

Jewelery wrote:
Not Mion but np WHAT? even the hair is the same ; ; sorry
Request from t/306264

Easy:
00:51:766 - you skip this beat everywhere ): I see what you mean, I wanted to put a note there too but for an easy it would make it a bit too hard and dense, I might add if I discover a way of putting it there somehow lol
01:29:345 - i dont think that its a good idea to skip this because you add claps in other moments like this
01:39:450 - ^
02:23:029 (3) - i'd like to make this slider symmetrical with (1) sure thing, done
02:50:187 - yes i'm adding every this moment to this mod ): :'c
03:00:293 - ^
03:28:714 (4) - i dont think that stacking on the easiest diff is good but i like this one It's an exception, if it's not too hard to read and not too fast I think it's acceptable if I don't overuse it
03:50:187 - i dont think that one spinner is good, i'd recommend to add spinner in the end I might take a look at this, but it has to be when all diffs receiver their reworks
Normal:
I dont think that speedchanges in normal is good idea. if it's not too sudden and not too many times, it's fine
00:59:977 (4) - i suggest to make this parralel with (3) Why? because of this moment 01:04:398 (3,4) - agreed, Done (I was stacking it with 5, but the stack wasn't noticeable in game so)
01:09:766 (3) - imo better way is ctrl+g this slider Would ruin flow imo
01:30:924 (3) - hello from 2011 I'm only playing for 10 months ; ;
02:08:503 (5,6) - i think you can place repeating slider here I did have one, but in another mod I was told to remove it due to difficulty rules so.. (he was a nominator eheh)
02:51:766 (3) - hello again :3
03:50:187 - what do you think about spinner here? Same as easy, will be considered
HardV2:
unsnapped as hel This is a rework of Hard, so just a temporary diff xD
Hard:
01:03:135 (5) - i suggest ctrl+g
01:23:661 (1,2) - dont think that these stacks is good, but cant find better solution
01:24:608 (6) - you didnt ctrl+g it but 01:25:871 (6) - was ctrl+g'ed D:
In my point of view you have to look at this diff and make it more neater, some sliders almost makes me cry, you can use copypaste to make patterns clear Agreed, this is why I am currently reworking it, the chorus has too much note spam which can be quite hard and confusing
Lunatic:
i'm weak in extras so this will be short mod no problema, thanks for modding still :3
00:36:924 (1,2,3,4) - i guess you can reduce spacing for a bit
00:45:450 (4) - ctrl+g because of next moments
01:04:398 (5) - i think you can make it symmetrical to (4)
01:38:187 (5,6,7,8) - i'm not sure that this sliders fit the vocal
01:39:608 (5) - ctrl+g
01:46:714 (2) - ctrl+g
02:12:924 (5) - i think it can be symmetrical with (4)
02:39:450 (1,2) - this stack isnt good idea in my opinion
02:40:082 (2) - you can copypast and rotate (1)
02:40:714 (4) - you can copypast and rotate (3)
02:52:556 (4) - confusing slider, really
All these points will be had into account when reworking this diff too, as I have to finish Hard first, sorry I can't reply to it now :c

Good luck. tyvm
Feel free to ignore most part of my mod. This is my subjective opinion.

Thanks for modding guys!

Loughje

378 posts

Joined December 2014

Loughje 2015-03-04T00:20:42+00:00

Really wanting this map to be ranked, love it! Take my star!

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2015-03-04T06:08:45+00:00

Taking anymore GD's on this map?

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-03-05T09:18:34+00:00

jloughman14 wrote:
Really wanting this map to be ranked, love it! Take my star!

Thank you! Hopefully we will be able to do it ^^

spartancog95 wrote:
Taking anymore GD's on this map?

Unfortunately I'm not accepting any more GD's on this one sorry, I'm trying to only fix the existing maps and make this rankable, as the set is pretty big already

thanks for the offer though!

Factorial

691 posts

Joined August 2013

Factorial 2015-03-06T01:51:57+00:00

From my modding queue, as you requested:
[Easy]

00:54:924 (3,1) - Don't overlap these. (1) blocks (3) as if whether there is a reverse arrow or not.
01:46:082 (3,4) - Don't stack these. Stacking should be avoided on Easy.
03:27:135 (3,4) - ^

[Normal]

01:37:240 (5,6) - Don't stack these.

[Hyper]

01:39:450 (5) - Space out the slider head and tail

You may want to make a Hard or reduce Hyper to Hard for this beatmap to cover the diff spread.

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-03-07T10:36:23+00:00

Neil Leo wrote:
From my modding queue, as you requested:
[Easy]
00:54:924 (3,1) - Don't overlap these. (1) blocks (3) as if whether there is a reverse arrow or not. During gameplay the 1 is already gone when we have to play 3
01:46:082 (3,4) - Don't stack these. Stacking should be avoided on Easy. It's a really easy stack, and only 2 of them through the diff, there can be exceptions so I hope this can be one
03:27:135 (3,4) - ^ ^
[Normal]
01:37:240 (5,6) - Don't stack these. Stack a bit out of place indeed, fixed.
[Hyper]
01:39:450 (5) - Space out the slider head and tail This one seems fine but I might change because a lot of people don't like these sliders lol
You may want to make a Hard or reduce Hyper to Hard for this beatmap to cover the diff spread. The star difference is big but the only not allowed is 2 star difference. And my previous hard was actually harder then this hyper xD but the 0.1 DS increase made star diff go up a lot, even though I reduced SV..

Thanks for modding

-Tochi

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

-Tochi 2015-03-07T13:53:09+00:00

Cherry Blossom wrote:
-Tochi's Insane
00:36:924 (1) - Unrankable slider : Ok!
Ranking Criteria wrote:
Slider anchors/nodes must not be used to manipulate slider speeds (whether they are normal nodes or red ones). Using extra nodes to make a slider "wiggle" is usually fine, but using so many that the slider gets scrunched up (which also makes the sliderball go crazy) or become a "hold slider" is abuse of the hitobject's intended use and is not allowed. AIMod (shortcut ctrl+shift+a) will also point out sliders that move in an "abnormal" way, so make sure to check that if you're unsure of a slider.
00:41:977 (1) - same as ^ Fixed!
00:47:029 (1) - ^ and many more. Fixed!
01:10:082 (1) - Same as Hard, is is snapped wrongly it should be 1/6, not 1/8, and many more like 01:12:608 (1) - and 01:15:135 (1) - etc. Fixed!

-Tochi's Insane : This diff is fine, but you have to get rid of these sliders with a a lot of red points which control the slider speed. It is formally unrankable. And, more improvements are welcomed. Ok!

Good luck with this set.

Jewelery wrote:
-Tochi's Insane:
00:36:924 (1) - unrankable as i remember RC correctly Fixed in other mod
00:41:977 (1) - same Fixed in other mod
00:45:450 (5) - ctrl+g Flow better like this.
00:47:029 (1) - wiggle sliders is unrankable as i remember rc correctly Fixed in other mod
00:50:503 - i suggest to add note here No need to.
00:55:556 - and here Same as above
~i will skip other wiggle sliders~
01:19:871 (6) - suggest to move it to 201 89 There's not even diffirence.
01:46:082 (1,2) - this overlap doesnt looks neat I'll keep it like this. But if more modders say the same i'll change it.
02:29:661 - 02:39:450 - you can map it Yes i can, but it's an easier diff. So it's okay to have some breaks.
02:43:240 (6) - i think one repeat is enough http://puu.sh/ggBkq/f83bdc9e16.jpg This is better.
03:22:082 (7,8) - this stack and other stacks like these is very hard to read imo It's not hard imo
Unrankable diff if wiggle sliders are unranakable. I'm so lazy to read RC again, soz
Thanks for the mod!

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392,132,208871,1,10,0:0:0:0:
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328,268,211082,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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324,232,211871,1,8,0:0:0:0:
176,196,212029,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,212345,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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344,340,215029,5,4,0:0:0:0:
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452,232,215345,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,152,215503,1,0,0:0:0:0:
396,92,215661,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,72,215819,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,64,215977,1,0,0:0:0:0:
168,96,216135,1,0,0:0:0:0:
124,164,216293,6,0,P|124:208|144:244,1,80
216,260,216608,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,260,216766,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,268,216924,2,0,P|280:308|248:336,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
132,252,217240,2,0,P|148:212|180:184,1,80
268,168,217556,5,0,0:0:0:0:
360,188,217714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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388,112,218661,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,200,218819,6,0,L|332:248,1,40
308,312,218977,2,0,L|336:340,4,40
228,328,219450,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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186,79,220398,1,0,0:0:0:0:
265,60,220556,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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404,128,230187,1,0,0:0:0:0:

Loughje

378 posts

Joined December 2014

Loughje 2015-04-02T05:26:21+00:00

Add the tag: Algorithm
Thats the album this song is from.

Shushan

627 posts

Joined November 2013

Shushan 2015-04-05T21:09:37+00:00

this map is awesome!
take my star

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-04-05T23:18:05+00:00

ohad1881 wrote:
this map is awesome!
take my star

Thank you a lot!

jloughman14 wrote:
Add the tag: Algorithm
Thats the album this song is from.

Thanks, will add in the next update! Should be coming soon ^^

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2015-04-25T13:53:05+00:00

http://puu.sh/hqg0M/61480bb644.osr A test play of your RIP difficulty.

It's really well done. Wouldn't doubt this will get ranked soon. Wish I had a star to donate but I'm too lazy to mod atm. ;P

EDIT: Add metalcore, vocaloid, scream, into the tags?

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-04-25T21:18:42+00:00

DavidEd wrote:
http://puu.sh/hqg0M/61480bb644.osr A test play of your RIP difficulty.

It's really well done. Wouldn't doubt this will get ranked soon. Wish I had a star to donate but I'm too lazy to mod atm. ;P

EDIT: Add metalcore, vocaloid, scream, into the tags?

Nice ahah and thanks either way!

Added scream to the tags, vocaloid was already there and metalcore isn't really related ^^

Sc4v4ng3r

1,232 posts

Joined August 2014

Sc4v4ng3r 2015-04-29T11:27:51+00:00

Hi~ Modding for M4M~

Easy

00:41:977 (1) - I think this should be a 1/1 slider with no repeats... fits the instrument.
01:17:029 (2) - This could be a 2/1 slider with no repeats. You may not need to change though.
01:23:029 (4,5) - Make this into a 1/1 slider.
03:43:871 (1) - Again I think this should be a 1/1 slider with no repeats.
Other than that, good difficulty!

Normal

00:50:819 (1), 00:52:082 (3) - Make a curve for these 2 sliders. About 30 degrees would be good.
00:54:293 (3) - This should be a 1/1 slider without a repeat.
00:59:345 (3) - Same thing ^^
01:00:924 (1), 01:02:187 (3) - Make these 2 sliders curve like this : http://puu.sh/huW68/eb1702d714.jpg, http://puu.sh/huW8V/6d1e0d0e1b.jpg, so that it will form some sort of blanket pattern. Also, move 01:02:819 (4) to x:328 y:92.
01:04:398 (3) - This should be a 1/1 slider without repeat.
01:28:082 (1) - I think a slider with more than 1 repeat shouldn't be used in Easy and Normal diffs. Beginners may not be able to read those. Maybe change the pattern into 1/2 slider with a repeat and a circle like this? http://puu.sh/huWj1/950388600f.jpg
01:35:977 (3,4) - Make these 2 sliders curve.
01:38:187 (1) - Same thing like above ^^
02:00:608 (5) - Its okay to use this, but try to avoid using blue ticks on Easy and Normal.
02:01:871 (2) - Same thing ^^
02:05:661 (5) - Same thing^^
02:06:924 (2) - ^^
02:10:082 - Add a circle here or something. Feels a bit empty.
02:10:714 (2) - Same thing ^^^
02:15:766 (2) - ^^^
02:20:187 - Add a circle here.
02:20:819 (3) - Same thing ^^^
02:25:240 - Add a circle.
02:44:819 (2,3) - Make these curve.
02:48:924 (1) - Reduce the repeats. Add a circle 1/2 space afterwards if necessary.
02:59:029 (1) - Same thing ^^
03:09:135 (1) - Same thing ^^
03:17:029 (2,3) - Make these curve.
03:19:240 (1) - Reduce the repeats and add a circle if needed later.
03:43:871 (1) - Make this a 1/1 slider with no repeats.
03:44:503 (2) - Make this slider curve.
03:48:924 (1) - This is hard to read. Reduce the repeats and add a circle if needed.

Did Insane first because it was higher up in the list xD

Insane

01:04:556 (5) - Make this stack on 01:04:714 (1).
03:15:766 (5,6) - This should be stacking on 03:16:082 (1) to make it not look too confusing.
03:26:503 (2,3) - Same thing ^^ Stack on 03:26:819 (4).
I actually don't see any other problems than these. I like Insane maps which is VERY hard on vocaloid songs

Hard

03:50:029 (1) - Remove NC.
Don't see any other problems

-Tochi's Insane

00:46:398 (4,5,6,7) - Stacked too much. Move 00:46:714 (6,7) away from 00:46:398 (4,5) and stack them.
00:50:503 - Add a circle maybe.
00:55:556 - Same ^^
01:00:608 - Same ^^ If you are going to add, stack on top of 01:00:293 (7).
01:05:661 - Same ^^ Stack on 01:05:345 (4) if you are going to add.
01:20:977 (9) - Make this stack on 01:21:135 (1) maybe.
02:12:608 (8) - Make this spacing equal.
Looks OK other than that.

Extreme 2hard4me ;-; (I suck)

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-04-29T22:06:49+00:00

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:
Hi~ Modding for M4M~ Hey ^^

Easy
00:41:977 (1) - I think this should be a 1/1 slider with no repeats... fits the instrument.
01:17:029 (2) - This could be a 2/1 slider with no repeats. You may not need to change though.
01:23:029 (4,5) - Make this into a 1/1 slider.
03:43:871 (1) - Again I think this should be a 1/1 slider with no repeats.
Didn't apply any of the changes, I see your point but I thnk it would feel undermapped even for an easy and wouldn't transmit the music like I want it to.
Other than that, good difficulty!

Normal
00:50:819 (1), 00:52:082 (3) - Make a curve for these 2 sliders. About 30 degrees would be good. I don't want to make every slider curved though, I'm going to change some of them
00:54:293 (3) - This should be a 1/1 slider without a repeat. the repeat is to show the complexety, would feel undermapped otherwise
00:59:345 (3) - Same thing ^^
01:00:924 (1), 01:02:187 (3) - Make these 2 sliders curve like this : http://puu.sh/huW68/eb1702d714.jpg, http://puu.sh/huW8V/6d1e0d0e1b.jpg, so that it will form some sort of blanket pattern. Also, move 01:02:819 (4) to x:328 y:92. Moving the note would ruin spacing (can't change spacing in a normal)
01:04:398 (3) - This should be a 1/1 slider without repeat.
01:28:082 (1) - I think a slider with more than 1 repeat shouldn't be used in Easy and Normal diffs. Beginners may not be able to read those. Maybe change the pattern into 1/2 slider with a repeat and a circle like this? http://puu.sh/huWj1/950388600f.jpg I removed them in the Easy diff, it would be a problem if I didn't have an easy diff, but as I have one I think it's ok to use some "harder" patterns in normal
01:35:977 (3,4) - Make these 2 sliders curve. Curved one of them, the other would ruin the flow
01:38:187 (1) - Same thing like above ^^
02:00:608 (5) - Its okay to use this, but try to avoid using blue ticks on Easy and Normal. needed for feeling ^^
02:01:871 (2) - Same thing ^^
02:05:661 (5) - Same thing^^
02:06:924 (2) - ^^
02:10:082 - Add a circle here or something. Feels a bit empty. true, added c:
02:10:714 (2) - Same thing ^^^
02:15:766 (2) - ^^^
02:20:187 - Add a circle here. added
02:20:819 (3) - Same thing ^^^
02:25:240 - Add a circle. added
02:44:819 (2,3) - Make these curve.
02:48:924 (1) - Reduce the repeats. Add a circle 1/2 space afterwards if necessary.
02:59:029 (1) - Same thing ^^
03:09:135 (1) - Same thing ^^
03:17:029 (2,3) - Make these curve.
03:19:240 (1) - Reduce the repeats and add a circle if needed later.
03:43:871 (1) - Make this a 1/1 slider with no repeats.
03:44:503 (2) - Make this slider curve.
03:48:924 (1) - This is hard to read. Reduce the repeats and add a circle if needed. idk how to fix this in a way I like, I'll see how I can do it

Did Insane first because it was higher up in the list xD

Insane
01:04:556 (5) - Make this stack on 01:04:714 (1).
03:15:766 (5,6) - This should be stacking on 03:16:082 (1) to make it not look too confusing.
03:26:503 (2,3) - Same thing ^^ Stack on 03:26:819 (4).
I know it might be hard to read but I love this patterns and if a person knows the song it's easily "readable", but I can change if more people have problems with them
I actually don't see any other problems than these. I like Insane maps which is VERY hard on vocaloid songs

Hard
03:50:029 (1) - Remove NC. good catch, must have been a test I forgot to erase xD deleted
Don't see any other problems

Extreme 2hard4me ;-; (I suck)

Thanks for modding

I'll get to your map asap tomorrow!

Deppyforce

1,961 posts

Joined November 2014

Deppyforce 2015-04-30T12:20:25+00:00

About Dat M4M BeatRoot Requested

He Throwed This to Me WaWaW

I cant mod this so damn sorry too much sp and i cant find anithing to mod ):

So I Modded Other Random Map And Shooted This Map A Star

Sorry For This .w.

Hope This Ranked Real Soon

Oi Sorry For Damn Late Reply Too >w>

.w.

/me sad

I'll NM your next map lol

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-04-30T13:35:18+00:00

DeppyDf wrote:
About Dat M4M BeatRoot Requested

He Throwed This to Me WaWaW

I cant mod this so damn sorry too much sp and i cant find anithing to mod ):

So I Modded Other Random Map And Shooted This Map A Star

Sorry For This .w.

Hope This Ranked Real Soon

Oi Sorry For Damn Late Reply Too >w>

.w.
/me sad

I'll NM your next map lol

~Don't worry about it ahah

I was really confused as to what was happening, I guess he just offered an M4M that you would do? Because I saw it as he would do the mod, so if someone's to blame it's him. Just forget it and take my mod as a NM, and nvm what I said on my queue, I was confused

Vell

359 posts

Joined October 2013

Vell 2015-05-01T14:19:50+00:00

Being here to give my 2 cents about this map since i really like this song. I didnt check all the mods before now so sorry if I suggest some things u may have already rejected before.

[Flyxz's Extra]

00:28:398 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I kinda fail to see the rythm used here, to me it goes triple>a 1/2 slider(or 2 circles)> and triple again, but instead you used a 1/1 slider followed by 2 circles and a 1/1 slider on a red tick which feels really out of place. Actually I would suggest to remap this beginning with the same rhythm u used starting at 00:38:187 (1,2,3) - .

00:44:345 (7) - I wouldnt cover such a strong beat ( a downbeat even) with a sliderend, this should work much better

Actually, I think you should reconsider your use of triples in this Difficulty (especially in the beginning), cases like 00:29:661 (1,2,3) - and 00:33:292 (2,3,4) - dont fit into the rhythm of the song at all since the guitar only plays the triples at the white ticks though some of your triples start at red ones which doesnt make much sense to me. 00:50:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - how you did it here feels perfect and this is how the rhythm should mainly be throughout most of the song.

01:22:714 (1) - Why no hold slider like 01:20:187 (3) - ?

01:31:082 (8) - Again, putting a slider starting on a red tick which ends on a downbeat is not a good idea, better just switch them like

01:41:187 (7) - ^

Just gonna say something in general, this song has a strongly fixed rythm, the drummer drums on the same ticks all the time, the guitar plays on the same ticks all the time, the instruments rarely alternate so I would be careful with starting sliders on red ticks, they may feel out of place and / or kill your rythm if they arent used correctly. To give you a concrete example:
01:45:608 (4) - using this slider here doesnt feel right because it starts on a relatively weak beat and ends on a strong drum hit. U may want to reconsider your use in rythm on similar parts like this.

01:50:345 (1,2,3,4) - There is a clear drumroll starting at the end of the triple followed by a slider on a red tick, it just doesnt feel right to play

What I have said so far applies to all the other cases later in the map as well so I wont point them out all individually.

02:39:450 (21) - I would start the NC here instead of 02:39:766 (1) -

[-Tochi's Insane]

00:35:661 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe space them more for aestehtic purposes like

hue

00:50:503 (7) - Missing note?

00:55:556 (9) - Again!

00:57:135 (1) - Sounds wrongly snapped, maybe just make a 1/4 hold slider out of this

01:00:608 (8) - Pls

01:05:661 (5) - It really feels better if there is a note here

01:31:240 (1,2,3) - Make it like this

hue

01:59:029 (1) - I think slowing the slider down instead of speeding it up represents the 'squeak' better

02:28:240 (1) - Not sure about that break here, as a player I would want to play especially this part since its kinda the 'breakdown' of the song

03:16:398 (2,3) - Way too sudden slow down in flow in the middle of the kiai

[Insane]

00:36:924 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Instead of claps I think drum whistles sound much better, if not that then at least something more quitly, those claps really dont seem to fit with that wub sound.

00:47:029 (1,2,3,4) - ^

00:57:135 (1,2,3,4) - ^

01:07:240 (1,2,3,4) - ^

01:12:924 (3,4,1) - Stack them a bit more clean, like

01:18:924 (2,3) - Space these close circles either a bit further away or closer together, as they are now they dont really look aesthetically pleasant

01:30:293 (2) - Im really not a fan of repeat sliders or sliders in general ending on a strong beat, consider just making a normal slider here followed by 2 circles

01:48:293 (1) - NC? To indicate the change of pattern

02:23:029 (1) - That slider looks kinda ugly, might be just me

[Hard]

00:38:661 (5,6) - Sliders starting on a red tick after that rhythm-change with the hold sliders and the repeat slider before may be a bit too confusing

01:21:608 (3) - This would be a good example of a slider starting on a red tick being rhythmically correct and feeling pleasant to play, I would suggest exactly that here

02:18:924 (5) - Missing a note here?

also the difficulty gap between hard a normal may be a bit too high? Not that sure about it though.
Anyway I hope I could be of any help, wish you good luck~

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-05-01T20:52:15+00:00

Vell wrote:
Being here to give my 2 cents about this map since i really like this song. I didnt check all the mods before now so sorry if I suggest some things u may have already rejected before.

[Insane]

00:36:924 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Instead of claps I think drum whistles sound much better, if not that then at least something more quitly, those claps really dont seem to fit with that wub sound. I see your point but I really can't find a more fitting hitsound for these patterns, and I really want them to stand out

00:47:029 (1,2,3,4) - ^

00:57:135 (1,2,3,4) - ^

01:07:240 (1,2,3,4) - ^

01:12:924 (3,4,1) - Stack them a bit more clean, like fixed

01:18:924 (2,3) - Space these close circles either a bit further away or closer together, as they are now they dont really look aesthetically pleasant it's to make the hi hat played stand out, if more people find this annoying I'll try to change it up a bit

01:30:293 (2) - Im really not a fan of repeat sliders or sliders in general ending on a strong beat, consider just making a normal slider here followed by 2 circles fixed, I was really thinking of changing this myself ahah

01:48:293 (1) - NC? To indicate the change of pattern good point, fixed

02:23:029 (1) - That slider looks kinda ugly, might be just me not just you, but I like it :^)

[Hard]

00:38:661 (5,6) - Sliders starting on a red tick after that rhythm-change with the hold sliders and the repeat slider before may be a bit too confusing true, fixed

01:21:608 (3) - This would be a good example of a slider starting on a red tick being rhythmically correct and feeling pleasant to play, I would suggest exactly that here

02:18:924 (5) - Missing a note here? this is on purpose, it's a slow part so I want players to slow down c:

also the difficulty gap between hard a normal may be a bit too high? Not that sure about it though. EDIT forgot to comment this xD: mhm some people have the same opinion but if I made a diff in between it would be basically useless, and I've seen worse diff disparities honestly, so I'm hoping this is acceptable
Anyway I hope I could be of any help, wish you good luck~

Thanks for the great mod o/

annika69

184 posts

Joined October 2014

annika69 2015-05-03T13:30:01+00:00

Hello!

Tiny mod is tiny, oops

[Hard]
00:38:819 (5) - Ctrl+G ?
02:14:187 (1) - Uhhh, I'm not really a fan of these sliders to be honest, maybe you could fix them up a little so they look nicer?? But its probably just me heh. Also I think that the rythm should be like http://puu.sh/hzQjI/de5dcf5c51.jpg ??
02:24:293 - Same as above

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-05-04T09:06:03+00:00

annika69 wrote:
Hello! Tiny mod is tiny, oops All mods are helpfull :3

[Hard]
00:38:819 (5) - Ctrl+G ? oki doki :^)
02:14:187 (1) - Uhhh, I'm not really a fan of these sliders to be honest, maybe you could fix them up a little so they look nicer?? But its probably just me heh. Also I think that the rythm should be like http://puu.sh/hzQjI/de5dcf5c51.jpg ?? I want to keep these though, the timing you mentioned is also right, but I'm following the instruments here and not anything else ^^
02:24:293 - Same as above ^^

Ty very much for modding

Loughje

378 posts

Joined December 2014

Loughje 2015-05-14T02:53:09+00:00

re mod on the insane

Insane

00:41:977 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe a new hitsound for these.
02:03:135 (2) - Remove this and just have a circle.
02:30:608 (1,2,3,4) - Move these closer?
02:33:135 (2) - Do this? Example
03:38:819 (1,2,3,4) - Different hitsound?
03:43:871 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^

Still an awesome beatmap, really wanting it to get ranked. Take another star.

-Tochi

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

-Tochi 2015-05-14T13:10:13+00:00

Vell wrote:
[-Tochi's Insane]

00:35:661 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe space them more for aestehtic purposes like I think it's better like it is now.
hue

00:50:503 (7) - Missing note? ?

00:55:556 (9) - Again! ?

00:57:135 (1) - Sounds wrongly snapped, maybe just make a 1/4 hold slider out of this Fixed!

01:00:608 (8) - Pls Wut, idk what u mean x.x

01:05:661 (5) - It really feels better if there is a note here It feels more empty.

01:31:240 (1,2,3) - Make it like this Fixed!
hue

01:59:029 (1) - I think slowing the slider down instead of speeding it up represents the 'squeak' better Fixed!

02:28:240 (1) - Not sure about that break here, as a player I would want to play especially this part since its kinda the 'breakdown' of the song I think that it's best like this, since i mapped the other part before kiai-time too.

03:16:398 (2,3) - Way too sudden slow down in flow in the middle of the kiai Fixed!

Anyway I hope I could be of any help, wish you good luck~

Thanks Velly!

Updatuuu~

osu file format v14

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Creator:Milhofo
Version:-Tochi's Insane
Source:
Tags:algorithm utsu-p miku sabbath hatsune zatsune 初音 ミク 雑音 ミク vocaloid metal rock scream Tarrasky Flyxz -Tochi tochi minky
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- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-05-17T20:43:27+00:00

jloughman14 wrote:
re mod on the insane
Insane
00:41:977 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe a new hitsound for these. While I'd like to use a different hitsound here, I just can't find a proper one that won't sound just bad, if I ever find a good one, I'll change
02:03:135 (2) - Remove this and just have a circle. This is on purpose, the guitar slides from one note to another and I like to have this effect to express that
02:30:608 (1,2,3,4) - Move these closer? I don't think there's a need for that, would dramatically change the flow of the stream / solo
02:33:135 (2) - Do this? Example probably a personal thing but I hate those sliders between streams xD it makes them unecessarly hard to read and just break the flow
03:38:819 (1,2,3,4) - Different hitsound? same as above about the hitsounds
03:43:871 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ ^
Still an awesome beatmap, really wanting it to get ranked. Take another star.

Thanks for the support and the star c: I'll take a better look into those hitsounds, hopefully I'll find something.

Expecting to close out the set at the end of the month, then will be trying to rank it.

RoofToilet1107

3 posts

Joined March 2015

RoofToilet1107 2015-06-05T02:17:38+00:00

Overall not a bad map. I must admit, I'm a scrub, so I played Easy on CTB, but still, not a bad map, I had fun with it. Hope it gets ranked soon!

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-06-17T15:54:17+00:00

RoofToilet1107 wrote:
Overall not a bad map. I must admit, I'm a scrub, so I played Easy on CTB, but still, not a bad map, I had fun with it. Hope it gets ranked soon!

I'm in exam hell right now, hopefully I'll be able to finish it a lot quicker when summer starts, thanks for the support

Wiped

86 posts

Joined August 2014

Wiped 2015-06-21T10:29:31+00:00

Hello, since you've requested a mod in #modreqs , I'll try, but don't expect too much.

General

I'd put kiai time between 02:29:345 (1) - and 02:39:450 (1) - as it is the "strongest" part of the song (don't you want to headbang so much when listening to it) unless it will make 1/3 of the map in kiai.

Insane

The whole difficulty felt a little weird to play, to be honest. As if the note placement was all random.

00:48:293 (1) - clap, perhaps?

00:48:924 (3) - ^

00:49:556 (1) - ^

00:50:187 (3) - ^

02:03:135 (2,3) - i'd put a circle there instead of a slider, pretty much as in 02:08:187 (2,3) -

02:23:029 (1) - what is this slider even

03:15:766 (5,6,1) - spaced almost as if it was 1/4, confusing to play

03:26:503 (2,3,4) - ^

Collab

The only part I did not really like was the deathstream beginning at 02:29:345 (1) - . As it is the "strongest" part of the song, I'd increase spacing a little, because comparing this to the rest of the map, you have to move the cursor much slower, and change 02:38:187 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - , as the drums and guitar are different here.

00:41:977 (1) - kicksliders would fit more imo

01:07:240 (1) - ^

Hopefully it'll help at least a little. Also, have a star, because 鬱P.

Victoire

105 posts

Joined May 2012

Victoire 2015-06-21T12:11:07+00:00

M4M from my queue!

Blue for personal taste.
Red for something I see as a problem.
Orange for a small problem.

Collab

00:59:503 (7) - I think it'd fir the music better if the player had to tap at 00:59:661, so having a circle or a slider start there.
00:59:819 (1,2,3,4,5) - This feels overmapped.
01:00:924 (1,1) - Why aren't the two possible triples here mapped? It's not an objective problem, though.
01:22:714 (1) - You've used fast repeat sliders on all of these up until here, why stop that here?
01:38:819 (1) - Try moving it to (109, 268)
02:30:293 (13) - This is this spaced slightly further away?
03:11:503 (4,6) - I don't think it looks good how these two barely are touching.
03:15:450 (3,6) - ^
03:19:556 (7,1) - ^
03:21:135 (1) - I think this would flow a bit better if you moved this to (273, 234)

Insane

01:04:082 (4,5,1) - Why are these spaced like this?
01:12:924 (3,4,1) - It makes some more sense here, but it's still not very consistent.
01:21:450 (2,3,4,5,6) - Try making this more symmetrical.
01:59:029 (1) - This is a bit high-SV for right after a break.
02:10:398 (1,2,3) - Why are these spaced differently?
02:18:608 (3) - Try moving it a bit to the right, I don't think this overlap looks good.
02:21:766 (1,2,3) - Still, why are they unevenly spaced?
02:43:556 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Try moving this whole thing to the right so you can do this kind of thing http://puu.sh/ix6Mi.jpg
02:56:819 (6,7,8,1) - Why the sudden pause?
02:58:398 (1,3) - Barely touching doesn't make them look nice.
03:15:766 (5,6,1) - Why the sudden slowdown?
03:16:082 (1,3) - I don't like how these overlap.
03:16:398 (2,4) - ^
03:26:503 (2,3,4) - Another random slowdown.

- Tochi's Insane

In terms of mapping, this feels a lot more like a Hard(+) with a couple of insane jumps.

01:19:714 (5,6) - Barely touching, not pretty.
01:21:135 (1,2) - ^
01:21:924 (5,6) - ^
01:37:714 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - HUGE difficulty spike here.
02:58:714 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - ^

Hard

01:00:293 (7) - Try something like http://puu.sh/ix7Dz.jpg
That's all.

Gonna stop there.

I like the collab diff. The other two insanes seem a bit unpolished, though. Good luck getting it ranked!

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-06-21T13:18:54+00:00

Wiped wrote:
Hello, since you've requested a mod in #modreqs , I'll try, but don't expect too much. tytyty :3

General
I'd put kiai time between 02:29:345 (1) - and 02:39:450 (1) - as it is the "strongest" part of the song (don't you want to headbang so much when listening to it) unless it will make 1/3 of the map in kiai. I did do this previously and that was exactly the problem, kiai was more than 1/3 of the map, and I didn't want to put kiai in half the stream only

Insane
The whole difficulty felt a little weird to play, to be honest. As if the note placement was all random. Everybody says this about my mapping style ; ; I just don't like to repeat the same patterns over and over :b

00:48:293 (1) - clap, perhaps? yeah, I don't know how I forgot this section lol, the others are correct, I literally missed it, fixed

00:48:924 (3) - ^ ^

00:49:556 (1) - ^ ^

00:50:187 (3) - ^ ^

02:03:135 (2,3) - i'd put a circle there instead of a slider, pretty much as in 02:08:187 (2,3) - A lot of people mentioned this so, finally changed it xD

02:23:029 (1) - what is this slider even A beautiful and unique slider <3

03:15:766 (5,6,1) - spaced almost as if it was 1/4, confusing to play some people like it, I consider it a reading / rythm challenge, but if more people agree, I'll def change it

03:26:503 (2,3,4) - ^ ^

Collab
The only part I did not really like was the deathstream beginning at 02:29:345 (1) - . As it is the "strongest" part of the song, I'd increase spacing a little, because comparing this to the rest of the map, you have to move the cursor much slower, and change 02:38:187 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - , as the drums and guitar are different here. If the stream would go faster it would probably be really hard to clear, I think it's in a good spot right now, but agreed on the second point, will change it when I receive Flyxz's changes

00:41:977 (1) - kicksliders would fit more imo true, will talk this with Flyxz

01:07:240 (1) - ^ ^

Hopefully it'll help at least a little. Also, have a star, because 鬱P.

Ty so much for modding and the star

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Exa 2015-06-21T14:45:33+00:00

[Easy]

00:55:240 (4,1) - You can avoid that overlap. It's ok to break DS just for that part.
01:15:766 (4,1) - Not a perfect blanket.
01:17:029 (2,1) - Not a perfect blanket.
02:04:082 (1,2) - Not a perfect blanket.
02:07:240 (2,1) - Not a perfect blanket.
02:17:661 (2,3) - Not a perfect blanket.
02:46:082 (2,3) - Not a perfect blanket.

[Normal]

00:44:503 (3,4) - Not a perfect blanket.
00:45:766 (5,6) - Not a perfect blanket.
01:09:766 (3,4) - Not a perfect blanket.
01:19:556 (2,3) - Not a perfect blanket.
01:30:924 (3,1) - Almost.
02:11:661 (1,2) - Are you trying to blanket?
02:39:135 (6,1) - Not a perfect blanket. Look at the top part.
03:21:135 (1,2) - Not a perfect blanket.

[Hard]

01:03:450 (1) - Ctrl+G this and replace respectively.
01:05:977 (1,2) - They don't have the same X coos.
01:26:503 (2,4) - Not a perfect blanket.
02:19:240 (1,2) - Not a perfect blanket.
02:25:240 (2,3) - Not a perfect blanket.
I see you are using a certain kind of slider for 1/2. So I am not going to ruin your consistency by pointing out more unimportant blankets.

[-Tochi's Insane]

00:32:661 (2,3) - Ctrl+G these for better flow.
00:46:082 (3,4,5,6,7) - Try making a pattern here.
01:07:240 (6,7) - Not a perfect blanket.
01:19:714 (5,6) - Avoid touching.
01:41:977 (3,4,1) - Use consistent flow here or make a noticeable jump.
02:29:345- How about mapping this part?
03:14:819 (1,2) - Not a perfect blanket.
03:36:608 (2,5) - Not a perfect blanket.

[General]

- Perfect mapset in terms of rhythm and flow.
- Hard might be a little bit... Too hard.
- I was unable to detect any problems with the difficulties I did not mod.

Why is is this not ranked yet? Kds for you!

Last edited by Exa 2015-06-21T20:11:57+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-06-21T20:02:54+00:00

Ant wrote:
M4M from my queue!

Blue for personal taste.
Red for something I see as a problem.
Orange for a small problem.

Insane
01:04:082 (4,5,1) - Why are these spaced like this? why not? :b It's on time and readable, just a change of pattern
01:12:924 (3,4,1) - It makes some more sense here, but it's still not very consistent. ^
01:21:450 (2,3,4,5,6) - Try making this more symmetrical. Done
01:59:029 (1) - This is a bit high-SV for right after a break. might be a surprise for some, but I think the shape and size of the slider kind of warn the player, I'll consider this though
02:10:398 (1,2,3) - Why are these spaced differently? It was one of the oldest parts of the map, prob forgot to update, fixed
02:18:608 (3) - Try moving it a bit to the right, I don't think this overlap looks good. true, fixed
02:21:766 (1,2,3) - Still, why are they unevenly spaced? same reason as above, fixed
02:43:556 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Try moving this whole thing to the right so you can do this kind of thing http://puu.sh/ix6Mi.jpg I just changed the pattern here, I hated the one I had lol
02:56:819 (6,7,8,1) - Why the sudden pause? I'ts not really a pause, just a stack, then the triple to keep the pattern, timing wise nothing changed
02:58:398 (1,3) - Barely touching doesn't make them look nice. keeping this, hard to find an alternative without ruining flow
03:15:766 (5,6,1) - Why the sudden slowdown? this one is on purpose, you see it in a lot of maps, it's more of a reading challenge
03:16:082 (1,3) - I don't like how these overlap. it's a nice pattern :c
03:16:398 (2,4) - ^
03:26:503 (2,3,4) - Another random slowdown. same as above

Hard
01:00:293 (7) - Try something like http://puu.sh/ix7Dz.jpg Tried and fixed.
That's all.

Gonna stop there.[/notice]

I like the collab diff. The other two insanes seem a bit unpolished, though. Good luck getting it ranked!

I will wait for Flyxz to fix the Collab diff, but all orange poins will be fixed prob. Thanks for modding ^^

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-06-21T20:26:39+00:00

Exa wrote:
[Easy]

00:55:240 (4,1) - You can avoid that overlap. It's ok to break DS just for that part. I'll trust you on that one ahah fixed
01:15:766 (4,1) - Not a perfect blanket. fixed
01:17:029 (2,1) - Not a perfect blanket. ^
02:04:082 (1,2) - Not a perfect blanket. ^
02:07:240 (2,1) - Not a perfect blanket. ^
02:17:661 (2,3) - Not a perfect blanket. This one seems fine
02:46:082 (2,3) - Not a perfect blanket. fixed

[Normal]

00:44:503 (3,4) - Not a perfect blanket. fixed
00:45:766 (5,6) - Not a perfect blanket. fixed
01:09:766 (3,4) - Not a perfect blanket. fixed
01:19:556 (2,3) - Not a perfect blanket. fixed
01:30:924 (3,1) - Almost. damn this one was bad xD fixed
02:11:661 (1,2) - Are you trying to blanket? No because a blanket would ruin spacing
02:39:135 (6,1) - Not a perfect blanket. Look at the top part. This is the closest I could get, because the slider end has to stack with that note and still keep spacing
03:21:135 (1,2) - Not a perfect blanket. fixed

[Hard]

01:03:450 (1) - Ctrl+G this and replace respectively. I'll keep it as is, because I have a lot of patterns like that before this one, and want this one to be different
01:05:977 (1,2) - They don't have the same X coos. Now they do :^)
01:26:503 (2,4) - Not a perfect blanket.Fixed
02:19:240 (1,2) - Not a perfect blanket. Fixed
02:25:240 (2,3) - Not a perfect blanket. Fixed
I see you are using a certain kind of slider for 1/2. So I am not going to ruin your consistency by pointing out more unimportant blankets.

[General]

- Perfect mapset int terms of rhythm and flow.
- Hard might be a little bit... Too hard. Everyone says that D: but I hope it's still acceptable
- I was unable to detect any problems with the difficulties I did not mod.

Why is is this not ranked yet? Kds for you!

Thanks for the nice mod and the kds!

Loughje

378 posts

Joined December 2014

Loughje 2015-06-23T10:51:37+00:00

Still waiting for ranking!

Wiped

86 posts

Joined August 2014

Wiped 2015-06-23T18:43:52+00:00

We all do.

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-06-23T23:52:45+00:00

Still waiting on CTB unfortunately, can't search for nominators with an unfinished set :c

Spayyce

693 posts

Joined December 2013

Spayyce 2015-06-25T01:14:35+00:00

Hey from M4M queue, map: here

[General]

In AiMod on the CtB map some notes aren't snapped (I am baka with CtB maps so I dont know if it's a problem or not :3)

[Easy]

00:31:871 (1) - Perhaps, try this instead it would make for a more even slider:

Slider

00:47:661 (2,1) - I'm not confident on this flow and I find that slider 2 leads into nothingness, I would fix it so slider 2 flows into the other slider.

01:28:082 (1) - Finish on the end of the slider to provide emphasis?

01:38:187 (1) - ^

01:46:082 (3,4) - I believe this would be hard for new players to follow due to the excessive overlap.

02:00:924 (1) - Copy this slider, then use Ctrl+J and replace the slider with this one 02:02:187 (2) for a more even look.

02:38:187 (2,1) - I am not fond with this overlap, I would rearrange it so it doesn't overlap so bad

02:48:924 (1) - Add finish on the end?

02:59:029 (1) - ^

03:01:871 (3) - I would curve this more so it flows to the next note better

03:27:135 (3,4) - Same overlap reason as 01:46:082 (3,4)

03:33:766 (1) - Would this not look better?

Curve

[Normal]

00:29:345 (3,4) - Make these the same type of slider for nicer consistency

01:14:819 (3,1) - I would align these parallel for nicer looks and consistency

01:30:924 (3) - Wot? 2009 sliders too stronk

01:33:450 (3) - ^

01:59:029 (1) - Move the first red box down 2 sections for a more even slider.

02:04:082 (1) - Move the first red box to the right 2 and the second one to the left 1 for the same reason above

02:09:135 (1) - I would curve this more to give it nicer looks, I think the soft curve isn't that nice tbh :3

02:13:556 (4) - This doesn't blanket with slider 2 properly at the end

02:39:450 (1) - Move the middle white box of the slider to these co-ords for a even blanket (x:356 y:120) the end one to: (x:180 y:180)

02:51:766 (3) - 2009 sliders strike again xD

02:54:293 (3) - ^

03:11:977 (3) - Move the end of the slider in a little bit so it is more even as a result.

[Hard]

00:36:924 (1,2) - I think they're a touch too loud and break from the music

00:41:977 (1,2) - ^

01:18:293 (1,2) - Make these the same slider for consistency perhaps?

01:23:661 (1) - That sudden diff rise? Why not make it more gradual for the player to phase and flow back into rather than a sudden spike?

01:59:029 (1) - I think this slider can be made to understand better, why not this?

02:04:082 (1) - ^

02:05:661 (1,2,1) - Why two different styles in the same part of the song? No music change so why change? XD

02:14:187 (1) - The curve is quite ugly imo (no offence please) Why not make it like this?

Curve w/ blanket

02:24:293 (1) - ^

03:02:661 (2,3,4,5) - Why break in the middle, ruins consistency imo

[Insane]

00:31:871 (1) - You can make this slider more even, atm it looks a bit weird not having it consistent

00:54:608 (1,3) - Why not make slider 3 the same (or similar) slider for parallel sliders creating more consistency and nicer looks?

01:18:924 (2,3,4,5,6) - Nothing here warrents this kind of pattern, the music doesn't change.

01:59:029 (1) - The directions and quite erratic and don't follow a pattern, I would change it so that the curves end in a nice parallel position with one another with similar or equal spacing.

02:04:082 (1) - ^

02:14:187 (1) - I would prefer if it were more even and less quick because it will catch players out imo, plus it creates a lot of overlaps which aren't pleasant

02:23:029 (1) - I don't understand this slider, and it ruins flow a lot imo by the fact it is so curved.

02:28:714 (1) - lmao that diff spike, I would tone it down a bit because it is totally unexpected. Also a lot of your streams don't add up and have fluctuation spaces between them. I recommend converting sliders to stream like so:

02:38:187 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Make these parallel and on the same DS because the music doesn't warrant this

03:16:398 (2,4) - I wouldn't cover a blanket like this, I would keep them seperated

03:26:503 (2,3,4) - No. I wouldn't try this it is like a middle finger because you just ripped the DS down for no reason which will trick players into a triple stream.

I would recommend that a remap of the end take place because I believe the quality drops off a little bit and the diff spike it quite high, but it's just my opinion.

[-Tochi's Insane]

01:46:082 (1,2) - I wouldn't have the sides of the slider touching , it creates bad looks imo

02:24:293 (1) - This slider can be improved to have a better blanket like so:

Blanket

02:24:924 (2) - If you agree to the above suggestion make sure to change this accordingly for consistency

02:28:240 (1) - Why a break after this? You're missing out on a clear mapping opportunity

02:40:714 (1,2,3,4) - I don't agree with this antijump I think the music doesn't tone down to warrant such

02:45:766 (1,2,3,4) - ^

03:04:398 (4,5) - Again, fake streams don't go down well XDD

03:35:029 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I would make it so that the circles arrange themselves in a more circular manner , especially at the end. :3

03:45:135 (1,4) - I would make these sliders the same for consistency

Maybe add a slider at the end like previous difficulties.

[Collab]

00:29:977 (6,2) - These sliders skip over important beats in the song imo plus it's inconsistent because this is the only time it appears

I cant really play anything else too well so I am not gonna mod due to inexperience.

Good luck in map!

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-07-09T14:15:35+00:00

[ Space ] wrote:
No reply means I fixed, since the mod is pretty big.

[Easy]

00:31:871 (1) - Perhaps, try this instead it would make for a more even slider:

00:47:661 (2,1) - I'm not confident on this flow and I find that slider 2 leads into nothingness, I would fix it so slider 2 flows into the other slider. I changed it a little, hopefully flows better

01:28:082 (1) - Finish on the end of the slider to provide emphasis?

01:38:187 (1) - ^

01:46:082 (3,4) - I believe this would be hard for new players to follow due to the excessive overlap.

02:00:924 (1) - Copy this slider, then use Ctrl+J and replace the slider with this one 02:02:187 (2) for a more even look.

02:38:187 (2,1) - I am not fond with this overlap, I would rearrange it so it doesn't overlap so bad This is really the only way to map this without ruining my idea of the pattern, at least it's centered :b

02:48:924 (1) - Add finish on the end?

02:59:029 (1) - ^

03:01:871 (3) - I would curve this more so it flows to the next note better

03:27:135 (3,4) - Same overlap reason as 01:46:082 (3,4)

03:33:766 (1) - Would this not look better? the result is almost the same :c

[Normal]

00:29:345 (3,4) - Make these the same type of slider for nicer consistency in theory their not the same since one has a blanket and the other is a reverse, I'll keep it

01:14:819 (3,1) - I would align these parallel for nicer looks and consistency would ruin the pattern ; ;

01:30:924 (3) - Wot? 2009 sliders too stronk it was made in 2014 though :^)

01:33:450 (3) - ^

01:59:029 (1) - Move the first red box down 2 sections for a more even slider.

02:04:082 (1) - Move the first red box to the right 2 and the second one to the left 1 for the same reason above

02:09:135 (1) - I would curve this more to give it nicer looks, I think the soft curve isn't that nice tbh :3 I like the current flow

02:13:556 (4) - This doesn't blanket with slider 2 properly at the end slider 2 is already gone when 4 appears

02:39:450 (1) - Move the middle white box of the slider to these co-ords for a even blanket (x:356 y:120) the end one to: (x:180 y:180)

02:51:766 (3) - 2009 sliders strike again xD never too old

02:54:293 (3) - ^

03:11:977 (3) - Move the end of the slider in a little bit so it is more even as a result.

[Hard]

I reworked the whole diff based off some mods including this one, it was too hard and ruined the spread, hopefully it's fixed now

00:36:924 (1,2) - I think they're a touch too loud and break from the music

00:41:977 (1,2) - ^

01:18:293 (1,2) - Make these the same slider for consistency perhaps?

01:23:661 (1) - That sudden diff rise? Why not make it more gradual for the player to phase and flow back into rather than a sudden spike?

01:59:029 (1) - I think this slider can be made to understand better, why not this?

02:04:082 (1) - ^

02:05:661 (1,2,1) - Why two different styles in the same part of the song? No music change so why change? XD

02:14:187 (1) - The curve is quite ugly imo (no offence please) Why not make it like this?

02:24:293 (1) - ^

03:02:661 (2,3,4,5) - Why break in the middle, ruins consistency imo

[Insane]

00:31:871 (1) - You can make this slider more even, atm it looks a bit weird not having it consistent

00:54:608 (1,3) - Why not make slider 3 the same (or similar) slider for parallel sliders creating more consistency and nicer looks?

01:18:924 (2,3,4,5,6) - Nothing here warrents this kind of pattern, the music doesn't change. there's a difference, you can hear the china from the drums playing 4 times, and it's loud enough to ask for a change of pattern

01:59:029 (1) - The directions and quite erratic and don't follow a pattern, I would change it so that the curves end in a nice parallel position with one another with similar or equal spacing. Changed it slightly to improve flow and readability

02:04:082 (1) - ^ ^

02:14:187 (1) - I would prefer if it were more even and less quick because it will catch players out imo, plus it creates a lot of overlaps which aren't pleasant ^

02:23:029 (1) - I don't understand this slider, and it ruins flow a lot imo by the fact it is so curved. ^ but it's still the same shape, looks so cool >.<

02:28:714 (1) - lmao that diff spike, I would tone it down a bit because it is totally unexpected. Also a lot of your streams don't add up and have fluctuation spaces between them. I recommend converting sliders to stream like so: I reworked the solo, now the streams have nice flow and better spacing, the diff spike is necessary though, as it is the strongest part of the song, and it's either this type of mapping or undermapping, but as this is an Insane diff the streams aren't "illegal"

02:38:187 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Make these parallel and on the same DS because the music doesn't warrant this this was reworked

03:16:398 (2,4) - I wouldn't cover a blanket like this, I would keep them seperated just my choice of pattern

03:26:503 (2,3,4) - No. I wouldn't try this it is like a middle finger because you just ripped the DS down for no reason which will trick players into a triple stream. plenty of other maps have this, and if the player knows the rhythm of the song, which he has learned for the last 3 mins, it's perfectly readable and playable

[Collab]

00:29:977 (6,2) - These sliders skip over important beats in the song imo plus it's inconsistent because this is the only time it appears This was one of the key points in Flyxz's diff and a lot of people liked it, it doesn't miss the rhythm nor is it overmapped so I guess it's ok to keep it

Good luck in map!

Thanks for the great mod and sorry I took so long to reply!

-Makishima S-

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-Makishima S- 2015-07-30T13:44:31+00:00

Dropping star since i like this song, waiting for rank!

Loughje

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Joined December 2014

Loughje 2015-09-09T04:02:22+00:00

Almost S

votex09

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Joined June 2015

votex09 2015-10-23T00:02:49+00:00

Seems like you pretty much have this modded to the Tee - unfortunately I'm too scrubby to complete your insane so:

Hard

Honestly pretty fun, some tricky stuff was thrown in here which IMO makes it a bit hard to read. Notes under notes under notes haha. Maybe try to make them easier to see by cascading. Other than that I enjoyed the map.

Examples:
03:37:240 - Note 5
01:44:187 - 2&3 cascaded?

Small things like that.

Normal

02:24:293 - This slider is close enough to be viewed as an early hit. I believe it would be better if it was moved over more to the right so it gives the image that it takes a beat before you hit the note. As it stands right now it looks like i should hit it directly after the slider end before it.

- Milhofo -

683 posts

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Topic Starter

- Milhofo - 2015-10-25T23:55:10+00:00

votex09 wrote:
Seems like you pretty much have this modded to the Tee - unfortunately I'm too scrubby to complete your insane so:

Hard
Honestly pretty fun, some tricky stuff was thrown in here which IMO makes it a bit hard to read. Notes under notes under notes haha. Maybe try to make them easier to see by cascading. Other than that I enjoyed the map. I want to fix that one btu I don't wanna ruin the pattern, I'll check when I make some changes to the diff

Examples:
03:37:240 - Note 5
01:44:187 - 2&3 cascaded? this is pretty standard though :b

Small things like that.

Normal
02:24:293 - This slider is close enough to be viewed as an early hit. I believe it would be better if it was moved over more to the right so it gives the image that it takes a beat before you hit the note. As it stands right now it looks like i should hit it directly after the slider end before it. I didn't have this with consistent spacing for some reason x.x fixed

Thanks for the mod! you did catch a really important fail I did xd

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Ranking Criteria wrote:

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Collab

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Hard

Wiped wrote:

Ant wrote:

Insane

Hard

Exa wrote:

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