Ikimono Gakari - Netsujou no Spectrum · forum

TtmnZk

Elite Mapper

Joined March 2013

TtmnZk 2014-12-22T19:41:48+00:00

Insane

00:01:300 - until 00:10:300 - from here, i think claps dont fit with this part, no drum sound or music there so i think whistle for every 1st and 3rd whiteticks would be nicely change
00:13:300 - until 00:17:050 - i think you need to add whistle for every 1st and 3rd whiteticks here.. feels too empty for me ok
00:13:112 (3) - hmm the music is only a snare guitar, both me and lexia agree that clap sounds too loud there. remove clap or change whistle ok
▇00:00:550 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - could you change this with 2 slider repeats (normal spacing) instead? having stream at first is quite hard for me, especially this diff is Insane, should keep the spread with hard diff too
00:21:550 (5) - the flow feels suddenly changed here, coz you want to make the stack with 00:20:612 (6) - , the flow feels too rigid for me, i think you can change with https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2368630 coz tbh that stack didnt give any effect in game change
▇00:18:737 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - hmm try to change with slider's repeat? basically your Insane diff has quite huge gap with hard diff when Hard diff only 2,88 star here
00:31:675 (2) - aw the jump please. the part is relax now so i strongly recommended to use some normal spacing (from this time until 00:32:050 (3) - ) maybe ctrl+G btter?
00:42:925 (5) - i think you missplace the drum clap here, since you added drum clap at 00:42:737 - , the other drum appears at 00:43:112 - so it should be placed on slider's tail ok
00:23:050 (8,9,10) - http://puu.sh/dDkLm.jpg change
00:55:487 (2) - nothing loud music here. the jump feels so harsh. i would say keep normal spacing example move this circle around184,232 but it can give player more enjoyable and i really like geometrical pattern so very sorry
00:57:362 (2) - just my two cents, try ctrl+G this slider? it would give better transtition from previous slider good!
01:05:050 (4) - the jump a little bit high imo, try ctrl+G? (just two cents) keep coz i think not good for flow, sorry
01:07:487 (2) - i hope you can use normal spacing here, you did lot of jumps before so please give a little break for mapper change to slider
▇01:19:300 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - try change with 2 slider repeats, spread with hard diff orz
unless 2 of "just my two cents" are strongly suggested here. btw the diff rating too high here. i and lexia strongly suggest to make the star rating around 3,8-3,9 for better spread. her suggestion again btw http://puu.sh/dDl1Z.jpg

▇about spread i cant make a decision. if Kibbleru and death all agree your suggestions , i will quickly finish it (,,•́ . •̀,,)

Tt's Insane

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2014-12-23T07:21:54+00:00

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xxdeathx

2,661 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

xxdeathx 2014-12-23T21:00:32+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
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12:09 xxdeathx: pishi i need a map's timing checked before it gets bubbled
12:10 pishifat: k
12:10 *xxdeathx is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/540796 Ikimono Gakari - Netsujou no Spectrum]
12:10 xxdeathx: it sounds off especially near the end
12:10 pishifat: timestamp
12:13 xxdeathx: hmm i rmeember it was posted somewhere
12:13 xxdeathx: you can hear it off at 01:26:987 (2) -
12:31 xxdeathx: how does it seem
12:32 pishifat: is kibbleru the only one complaining about timing
12:32 pishifat: or were there more people
12:32 xxdeathx: a few people noticed the timing was off at the end while modding
12:34 pishifat: lag in the editor
12:34 pishifat: makes timing so hard -.-
12:34 pishifat: have to actually use the timing tab instead of compose
12:34 xxdeathx: orz so i'm not the only one experiencing editor lag
12:37 pishifat: well if people are complaining about teh end now
12:37 pishifat: they'll be even more skeptical with the timing point i put there
12:37 pishifat: it sounds fine but it just seems so weird
12:37 xxdeathx: eh?
12:37 pishifat: 01:23:800 - 160.5bpm
12:37 xxdeathx: let's see
12:38 pishifat: will make all those early sounds on time
12:38 pishifat: but people are scared of decimals
12:38 pishifat: also if people complain about the beginning all being late
12:38 pishifat: tell them that's how string instruments work
12:39 xxdeathx: hmm nobody's done so yet
12:39 xxdeathx: lol decimals
12:39 pishifat: now that you've got a new timing point tho
12:39 pishifat: people will think "hey timing i should look at that"
12:39 pishifat: and if they start at the beginning they will notice for sure
12:41 pishifat: you could also go with
12:41 xxdeathx: i see
12:41 pishifat: an offset reset at 01:25:284 -
12:41 pishifat: so 160bpm
12:41 pishifat: would probably be better to do that thinking about it now
12:42 xxdeathx: the bpm goes back to 160 there?
12:42 pishifat: this is without the 160.5 point
12:42 pishifat: no matter what you do
12:42 pishifat: it's gonna look stupid
12:43 xxdeathx: oh i see
12:43 xxdeathx: so it is an offset change then
12:44 pishifat: i guess
12:44 pishifat: it shouldn't exist at all
12:44 pishifat: whatever it is
12:45 xxdeathx: lol
12:45 xxdeathx: sounds a lot better now
12:46 pishifat: gud
12:46 xxdeathx: aight thanks
12:46 xxdeathx: what to do about unsnapped slider?
12:47 pishifat: you know how to fix it right
12:47 pishifat: the thing in the .osu
12:47 xxdeathx: oh right
12:50 xxdeathx: make sure to post log on map's thread

12:50 pishifat: for wut
12:50 pishifat: i dont want kudosu for that lol
12:51 xxdeathx: okay then o.o

SoGa

236 posts

Joined June 2013

SoGa 2014-12-23T23:22:43+00:00

Xinely

Xinely wrote:

Normal
OD HP too low here. try use them 3,5 or 4
00:04:300 (1) - the curve of this slider looks different from previous and next slider which makes different flow that i feel a little bit bad here, you can improve by smoother the slider, maybe as http://puu.sh/dCIB4.jpg
00:01:300 (1,4) - nazi but if you see clearly, these slider didnt symmetris at all. i dont know if you do for intentional but i would say symmetrical for neater designNo , i did it intentional .
00:11:800 - we need S:C1 clap for this because the drums are strong :C
00:13:300 - increase the volume please, around 65%
00:26:050 (2) - add whistle on slider's tail to emphasize the violin :C
00:26:987 (4,1) - please avoid the overlap please. we still can see the overlap in play altho just for short time :C
00:27:550 (5) - clap on head because the strong drum sound
00:30:737 (7) - whistle at head coz emphasize the guitar?
00:31:300 - from here clap for S:C2 fits a lot with the drums, you can get back with S:C1 from 00:43:300 - here
00:34:862 (2) - both 0,78x and 0,74x spacing here are intentional? i dont see the reason since on previous you used 0,9x for 1/2 gap like 00:19:675 (2) - , better to keep consistent imo
00:48:550 (6,1) - the slider's tail to the circle a little bit close here, hmm i think if you move the tail to 168,356 it would give more natural flow for both previous circle and next slider
01:02:800 (3) - replace clap on tail and whistle on head for consistency, also the drum at 2nd whitetick while violin at stanza www
01:01:300 (1,3) - design would be look neater when you stack them :3no ,it was stack but someone mention to do it like that so keep
01:06:925 (4) - missing clap on head
01:11:050 (3,5) - im sure you can make a better blanket here ww http://puu.sh/dCP7L.jpg
01:14:050 (2) - you still can improve the blanket here, http://puu.sh/dCPIc.jpg
01:21:550 (5) - clap for both head and tail coz the drums are strong here
01:24:550 (6) - consider to move to 200,124. basically 0,95x still consistent but some of BATs usually dont agree to use the max spacing when we still can use balance spacing such as (0,90x)
01:28:300 (1) - the spinner is too short for Normal diff, i hope you can change with rhythms like Easy diff didwell ,that spinner was a Slider ,but someone said it's shape of shit so they tell me change it to a spinner instead , now i fix it as u say like ez diff

All Fixed except 2 things i mentioned.
Thanks for modding ! .

SoGa's Normal

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TtmnZk

Elite Mapper

597 posts

Joined March 2013

TtmnZk 2014-12-24T17:37:02+00:00

Tt's Insane

finished 3.94

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2014-12-24T23:44:27+00:00

recheck来了

Easy

00:13:300 - until 00:24:925 - how about add whistle on every 3rd whitetick for consistency with kiai time?

Normal

01:27:721 (7) - slider's head and tail feel quite empty here. try add drum whistle at head and finish on tail (ofc tail has cymbal sound there)
01:29:409 - unnecessary greenline lol
00:11:800 - try use S:C1 here. when the drums are strong and your custom clap2 is just a weak sound, it doesnt emphasize anything imo

Insane

consider to use AR 8,6 here. when Hard diff only use 7,5 as AR i guess the spread of AR a little bit has huge gap between Hard and Insane, personally i feel AR 9 too fast for your diff too
00:10:675 - , 00:11:425 - claps for these times heard a little bit weird for me, personally i prefer use whistle
01:19:300 (6,7) - how about use drum sound instead here? i guess it would fits a lot with background musics

SoGa

236 posts

Joined June 2013

SoGa 2014-12-24T23:53:40+00:00

Xinely

Xinely wrote:

Normal
01:27:721 (7) - slider's head and tail feel quite empty here. try add drum whistle at head and finish on tail (ofc tail has cymbal sound there)
01:29:409 - unnecessary greenline lol
00:11:800 - try use S:C1 here. when the drums are strong and your custom clap2 is just a weak sound, it doesnt emphasize anything imo

All Fixed

SoGa's Normal

osu file format v13

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Title:Netsujou no Spectrum
TitleUnicode:热情のスペクトラム
Artist:Ikimono Gakari
ArtistUnicode:いきものがかり
Creator:xxdeathx
Version:SoGa's Normal
Source:Nanatsu no Taizai
Tags:opening tv_size 七つの大罪 the seven deadly sins kibbleru soga tt_mouse
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xxdeathx

2,661 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

xxdeathx 2014-12-25T00:06:34+00:00

fixed all for myself and TT Mouse. Removed S:C2 hitsound sampleset.

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2014-12-25T02:16:21+00:00

checked and i guess this mapset is fine to go now

Bubbled!~ ヽ(｡ゝω・｡)ﾉ

EDIT : rebubble coz desu gun forgot to fix AR in Tt's Insane

2nd edit : rebubble coz desu gun removed it

NepNep-

56 posts

Joined August 2014

NepNep- 2014-12-25T11:11:49+00:00

Can u make the backround vid lower quality? Cause i cant run the video cause its to high.
Probably like 360p or something :3

LexiaLovesU

822 posts

Joined June 2012

LexiaLovesU 2014-12-25T23:22:20+00:00

Yay Bubbled owo

Flask

Beatmap Nominator

3,460 posts

Joined July 2011

Flask 2014-12-26T07:30:38+00:00

yo

[General]

Seems fine

[Sins]

AR9 is the way too fast for this kind of slow song, try AR8 or AR8.5
00:10:300 (1,2,3,4) - Give those yellow circles the same distance
SPOILER
00:17:800 - / 00:18:175 - / 00:18:550 - / 00:19:862 (4) - / 00:20:800 (1,3) - / 00:21:550 - / 00:22:300 - The music at these timing points are kind of strong, probably you'll like to add finishes on them (don't care about if there's already clap on the object, that would be amazing if you put finish+claps when the music needs them to emphasize it )
00:23:425 (4,5,6,7,8) - Try to separate them in this way? Streams are somehow boring, probably you'd like this. (idk how to express my feeling about this, I suggest something like this bcz it's kind of... fun?)
00:45:550 (3) - Really? The default claps?
00:47:800 (1,2,3) - Something like what I've mentioned above, try finishes :V
01:07:300 (1,2,3) - Distance distance distance
SPOILER
01:24:362 (3,4,5,6) - This seems much cleaner I think
SPOILER
01:26:221 (4,1,2,3) - Annnnnd finishes.

[Tt's Insane]

00:00:550 - At least a whistle here
00:19:862 (3) - / 00:20:800 (1,2,3) - / 00:22:300 (1) - as what I've explained in Sins diff, add finishes please
00:30:925 (5) - This clap seems unnecessary, remove it please
00:35:050 (3,1) - This kind of distance will make the players think the rhythm here is in 1/2, but it's not. Probably move 00:35:800 (1) - under (3)'s sliderend?
00:46:675 (2) - Remove the whistle from this object, sounds horrible
01:05:612 (6,7) - You need a jump between these two objects to emphasize the strong music in the music here. You can easily solve this problem by ctrl+g-ing (7)
01:05:800 (7) - Also, this needs a new combo I think.
01:08:050 - Add something here please, like a clap or a clap or a clap
01:19:300 (6) - You need a new combo here again, and some claps on (6,7)

[Kibbleru's Hard]

00:30:737 - Add a finish here since you add it on 00:29:612 - / 00:29:987 - / 00:30:362 -
nice diff kib

[SoGa's Normal]

a bunch of hitsound things

00:26:050 - / 00:29:050 - Use clap instead whistle
00:26:612 (3) - finish
00:30:737 - finish instead whistle
00:51:175 (4) - clap

[Easy]

00:19:862 - 00:20:800 - 00:21:175 - 00:21:550 - Same thing in [Sins], add finishes
00:29:237 - You've missed the clap here :p
00:34:300 (1) - Sooooooooo nazi but this blanket can be improved, move the last node of this slider to x:352, y:226
SPOILER
00:47:800 (3,4,5) - Yeah finishes yeah
01:26:596 (3,4,5) - ^
01:23:050 (2,4,2) - idk if you'd like to add claps on these slider's sliderend, you did something like it in previous part

Call me back~

xxdeathx

2,661 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

xxdeathx 2014-12-26T08:54:20+00:00

Flask wrote:
yo

[General]
Seems fine yay

[Sins]
AR9 is the way too fast for this kind of slow song, try AR8 or AR8.5 AR9 isn't uncommon for 160 bpm insanes and this is the hardest diff with big jumps in kiai
00:10:300 (1,2,3,4) - Give those yellow circles the same distance done
SPOILER
00:17:800 - / 00:18:175 - / 00:18:550 - / 00:19:862 (4) - / 00:20:800 (1,3) - / 00:21:550 - / 00:22:300 - The music at these timing points are kind of strong, probably you'll like to add finishes on them (don't care about if there's already clap on the object, that would be amazing if you put finish+claps when the music needs them to emphasize it ) added to all except 00:19:862 (4) since I feel only a clap fits the music there
00:23:425 (4,5,6,7,8) - Try to separate them in this way? Streams are somehow boring, probably you'd like this. (idk how to express my feeling about this, I suggest something like this bcz it's kind of... fun?) good idea
00:45:550 (3) - Really? The default claps? not sure why I had an S:C2 section there, got rid of it and removed claps
00:47:800 (1,2,3) - Something like what I've mentioned above, try finishes :V done
01:07:300 (1,2,3) - Distance distance distance fixed
SPOILER
01:24:362 (3,4,5,6) - This seems much cleaner I think doesn't play well to me
SPOILER
01:26:221 (4,1,2,3) - Annnnnd finishes. added
[Easy]
00:19:862 - 00:20:800 - 00:21:175 - 00:21:550 - Same thing in [Sins], add finishes done
00:29:237 - You've missed the clap here :p done
00:34:300 (1) - Sooooooooo nazi but this blanket can be improved, move the last node of this slider to x:352, y:226 done
SPOILER
00:47:800 (3,4,5) - Yeah finishes yeah done
01:26:596 (3,4,5) - ^ done
01:23:050 (2,4,2) - idk if you'd like to add claps on these slider's sliderend, you did something like it in previous part done
Call me back~

wow, thanks for the mod! tt's insane的mod我还是让他明天回答.

TtmnZk

Elite Mapper

597 posts

Joined March 2013

TtmnZk 2014-12-26T13:42:06+00:00

Tt's Insane

ALL FIXED

SoGa

236 posts

Joined June 2013

SoGa 2014-12-26T20:44:56+00:00

Flask

Flask wrote:
[SoGa's Normal]
00:26:050 - / 00:29:050 - Use clap instead whistle
00:26:612 (3) - finish
00:30:737 - finish instead whistle
00:51:175 (4) - clap

All Fixed

SoGa's Normal

osu file format v13

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AudioLeadIn: 1000
PreviewTime: 58206
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 40233,43233
DistanceSpacing: 0.9
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.2

[Metadata]
Title:Netsujou no Spectrum
TitleUnicode:热情のスペクトラム
Artist:Ikimono Gakari
ArtistUnicode:いきものがかり
Creator:xxdeathx
Version:SoGa's Normal
Source:Nanatsu no Taizai
Tags:opening tv_size 七つの大罪 the seven deadly sins kibbleru soga tt_mouse
BeatmapID:540797
BeatmapSetID:232935

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
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SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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