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Yngwie Malmsteen - Cry No More

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Zodiark1020
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on domenica 14 marzo 2010 at 18.11.02

Artist: Yngwie Malmsteen
Title: Cry No More
Tags: Fire and Ice
BPM: 169,79
Filesize: 10670kb
Play Time: 03:30
Difficulties Available:
  1. Insane (4,81 stars, 345 notes)
  2. Normal (3,53 stars, 128 notes)
Download: Yngwie Malmsteen - Cry No More
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Hi this map is from Malmsteen Project created by me: forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=24930
if anyone's interested, pls PM me ^^

Normal:100%
Hard:100%

Check this out, see ya x3

Edit: modified under strager's mod
Edit: used happy30 timing
Edit: useful lokamp's hitsound mod followed
Edit: used EEeee/Ultimate mod for preview points and timing
Edit: orioncomet mod to source has been modified
Edit: midget mod to remove osb and make some changes
Edit: thanks to mukku for every single hitsound checking
Edit: some JJJ mods
Edit: doomsday, osuplayer and cesc mods
Edit: shinxyn mods
Edit: osuplayer again, almost bubbled
Edit: Larto fixes
Edit: Hard changed into Insane as Pasonia told
Edit: storyboard to hard
anonymous_old
Lots of IRC modding~
Yumiko
Starred :3
happy30
offset: 24.214
BPM: 169,79
Topic Starter
Zodiark1020

happy30 wrote:

offset: 24.214
BPM: 169,79
very thx
Lokamp
Normal
00:24:920 (2,5) - clap here and on the slider's end
00:27:747 (1,3, 4) - clap the 1st, whistle ALL the slider and set finish on 4th
00:30:574 (5) - move it 3 squares down and maybe some squares right (plus, new combo on it)
00:31:634 (7) - clap the 1st repeat
00:33:401 (1) - clap here
01:14:747 (2,3) - this doesn't follows the song's rhythm very well... try to change them whith something else...
01:33:829 (5) - remove the 1st clap from this slider
01:38:423 (3,4) - clap the beat and remove clap from the slider
01:40:190 (6,1) - fill this gap with a break time!
02:16:234 (spinner) - start it on 02:16:588 (same end point)

Hard
[General] Apart AIMod's suggests, this mode has some problems about hitsound-placing with claps... some sections like 00:31:634 (5,6,7,8) have some ununtuitive clap settings... Plus, the rapid beat triplets don't fit very well for an Hard mode for this song's rhythm, in my opinion...

Let's encourage this brave experiment of mapping ;3
Topic Starter
Zodiark1020

Lokamp wrote:

Normal
00:24:920 (2,5) - clap here and on the slider's end
00:27:747 (1,3, 4) - clap the 1st, whistle ALL the slider and set finish on 4th
00:30:574 (5) - move it 3 squares down and maybe some squares right (plus, new combo on it)
00:31:634 (7) - clap the 1st repeat
00:33:401 (1) - clap here
01:14:747 (2,3) - this doesn't follows the song's rhythm very well... try to change them whith something else...
01:33:829 (5) - remove the 1st clap from this slider
01:38:423 (3,4) - clap the beat and remove clap from the slider
01:40:190 (6,1) - fill this gap with a break time!
02:16:234 (spinner) - start it on 02:16:588 (same end point)

Hard
[General] Apart AIMod's suggests, this mode has some problems about hitsound-placing with claps... some sections like 00:31:634 (5,6,7,8) have some ununtuitive clap settings... Plus, the rapid beat triplets don't fit very well for an Hard mode for this song's rhythm, in my opinion...

Let's encourage this brave experiment of mapping ;3
Everything changed, thanks^^
Mok
Star No More :3
EEeee
Make both preview points match, one is at 114220, another is at 114344

Normal
looks good

Hard
02:51:395 - this break is kinda long, idk wanna map some parts within there? maybe add spinner at 03:11:008, end at
03:13:835 with a finish

and i cry nooooooooo MOREeeeeee
*star
Ultimate
Eeh Zodiark,

The test play went well, no visual errors that pops out.
The only thing that may be anoying for ppl, is the high amount of breaks.

It's all up to you to deside if you wanna map more, or just keep it this way.
I'm not really a fan of the song, but i really like the style you used.

STAR
niedz
._.
hvick225
Good map
Topic Starter
Zodiark1020

hvick225 wrote:

Good map
thanks to everyone guys, thanks for the stars^^
orioncomet
Just some suggestions.
[General]
- BG Colour: Black ?
- Source: Fire and Ice
- TAG: rock no no.. I don't know >_<'

[Normal]
00:34:108 (3) - end this silder at 00:34:815 or add note, sound better
00:49:657 (1) - end this silder at 00:50:363 or add note ^

[Hard]
seem fine for me ~

Starrrrrrr ~~ :oops: :oops:
Topic Starter
Zodiark1020

orioncomet wrote:

Just some suggestions.
[General]
- BG Colour: Black ? Oops
- Source: Fire and Ice ^ XD
- TAG: rock no no.. I don't know >_<'

[Normal]
00:34:108 (3) - end this silder at 00:34:815 or add note, sound better Probably, I did it, i think i'll like it
00:49:657 (1) - end this silder at 00:50:363 or add note ^ Here no, sorry, it's an intentional hitsound pattern you cannot understand XD

[Hard]
seem fine for me ~ Thank yu

Starrrrrrr ~~ :oops: :oops:
iDwarf
~Overall~
  1. Add "Fire & Ice Album" as a source
  2. I guess you should delete one of white combo colors
  3. Delete the .osb file and do full submit
  4. I suggest offset: 24210
~Normal~
  1. 01:34:885 (6) - New Combo
  2. 01:46:193 (1) - Remove this crap and make slider (2) start at this point.
~Hard~
  1. 00:46:123 (9) - New Combo
  2. 01:14:570 (1) - It should start on next white tick and have 1 reverse.
  3. 02:10:227 (1,2) - Heh, these are nice :)
  4. 02:28:602 (1) - I think there should be somekind of warning here (It's more intense section)
  5. 02:39:204 (1) - Remove New Combo and place it on (2)
  6. 03:18:517 (2) - Remove it. It sounds creepy.
Rest looks fine.

Star~
Mukku
Hiai

Normal~
00:25:980 (5) - Remove clap from the beginning and clap the ending.
00:46:830 (1) - Move a bit closer to 2

Hard
01:06:265 (2,3,4) - Turn distance snap off for either 3 or 4 to make it look more symmetrical :D Either move 3 to the left or 4 to the left
01:38:423 (5) - Maybe whistle the beginning instead of ending AND ->
01:39:130 (6) - Add whistle


Good map o/

I was surprised to find this song to my liking.
Topic Starter
Zodiark1020

Midget wrote:

~Overall~
  1. Add "Fire & Ice Album" as a source
  2. I guess you should delete one of white combo colors
  3. Delete the .osb file and do full submit
  4. I suggest offset: 24210
~Normal~
  1. 01:34:885 (6) - New Combo
  2. 01:46:193 (1) - Remove this crap and make slider (2) start at this point.
~Hard~
  1. 00:46:123 (9) - New Combo
  2. 01:14:570 (1) - It should start on next white tick and have 1 reverse.
  3. 02:10:227 (1,2) - Heh, these are nice :) thanks
  4. 02:28:602 (1) - I think there should be somekind of warning here (It's more intense section)
  5. 02:39:204 (1) - Remove New Combo and place it on (2)
  6. 03:18:517 (2) - Remove it. It sounds creepy.
Rest looks fine.
Thank you^^
Topic Starter
Zodiark1020

Mukku wrote:

Hiai

Normal~
00:25:980 (5) - Remove clap from the beginning and clap the ending. Yeh
00:46:830 (1) - Move a bit closer to 2

Hard
01:06:265 (2,3,4) - Turn distance snap off for either 3 or 4 to make it look more symmetrical :D Either move 3 to the left or 4 to the left Not sure I have understood XD
01:38:423 (5) - Maybe whistle the beginning instead of ending AND -> Right...
01:39:130 (6) - Add whistle


Good map o/

I was surprised to find this song to my liking.
Thanks =3
Jarby
"128kbps mp3" :|

Normal:

You really should extend this to Hard's length, it feels incomplete. Also, those tiny breaks suck.

Hard:

00:37:112 (10) - Remove.
00:37:288 (11) - 1/2 back, get rid of that slow down.
00:42:236 (10) - Get rid of that slow down.
00:58:845 (3) - Clap.
00:59:198 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:04:499 (6) - Clap on beginning.
01:07:326 (7) - Clap.
Modding hitsounds makes my brain sore.
01:12:980 (3) - Use bezier and curve it more.
01:20:047 (1,1) - Remove new combo.
02:02:629 (11) - Get rid of that slow down.
02:05:280 (1,1) - Remove new combo.
02:16:058 (1) - 1/2 back.
02:28:602 - Make this section easier. It's quite a lot harder than the rest of the map.
Aenna
star ~
Topic Starter
Zodiark1020

JarJarJacob wrote:

"128kbps mp3" :| What do you mean?

Normal:

You really should extend this to Hard's length, it feels incomplete. Also, those tiny breaks suck. Dunno if I will

Hard:

00:37:112 (10) - Remove.
00:37:288 (11) - 1/2 back, get rid of that slow down. Why no slow down?
00:42:236 (10) - Get rid of that slow down. ^
00:58:845 (3) - Clap.
00:59:198 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:04:499 (6) - Clap on beginning.
01:07:326 (7) - Clap.
Modding hitsounds makes my brain sore.
01:12:980 (3) - Use bezier and curve it more.
01:20:047 (1,1) - Remove new combo.
02:02:629 (11) - Get rid of that slow down. ^
02:05:280 (1,1) - Remove new combo.
02:16:058 (1) - 1/2 back.
02:28:602 - Make this section easier. It's quite a lot harder than the rest of the map. I don't think I will
Doomsday
Nice song :D

Blue = design/minor issues. you do not have to change these if you don't want to.
Orange = moderate issues. it would be best if you change these.
Red = major issues. you need to change these.

  1. Timing seems fine
  2. You have no tags. Perhaps you should put "Rock Vocal" in there or something
[NORMAL]

01:17:927 (7) - New combo here? This combo is getting quite long

[HARD]

02:28:602 (1) - The wider spacing at this part feels a little weird, since the song doesn't really get faster or louder. theres a guitar solo, but it isn't very dramatic. It doesn't bother me much, but I just thought i'd tell you.

I quite liked that, actually. Its a nice map. I'll protobubble once you've fixed the tags. ;)

Starred

[EDIT] Good good

Protobubbled
Topic Starter
Zodiark1020

Doomsday93 wrote:

Nice song :D

Blue = design/minor issues. you do not have to change these if you don't want to.
Orange = moderate issues. it would be best if you change these.
Red = major issues. you need to change these.

  1. Timing seems fine
  2. You have no tags. Perhaps you should put "Rock Vocal" in there or something
[NORMAL]

01:17:927 (7) - New combo here? This combo is getting quite long

[HARD]

02:28:602 (1) - The wider spacing at this part feels a little weird, since the song doesn't really get faster or louder. theres a guitar solo, but it isn't very dramatic. It doesn't bother me much, but I just thought i'd tell you.

I quite liked that, actually. Its a nice map. I'll protobubble once you've fixed the tags. ;)

Starred

[EDIT] Good good

Protobubbled
Thank you thank you^^
Andrea
[Overall]

Try 169,80 BPM. Offset seems good.

[Difficulties]

[Normal]

01:40:190 (6) - Sounds out of place.

[Hard]

01:11:566 (8) - New combo.
01:11:919 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:32:415 (4,5) - Too close.
02:01:216 (8) - New combo.
Jarby
Just to clarify, the speed changes don't really work for me. Also, 128kbps mp3s have a habit of sounding crappy.
cesc
Gran bella mappa, mi fa piacere ascoltare qualcosa di diverso su osu!, che non sia una sigla di Anime o Touhou xD

Il Timing è corretto a mio avviso...

[Normal] Perfetto, ma vorrei darti un parere...
01:41:282 - Perché non elimini la sezione di Break? E' inutile, no?
01:51:498 - Non mi piace il Clap a fine slider, che ne dici di mappare anche questa sezione di Break, con magari un circle in "01:53:265" con un bel Finish?

[Hard] Sicuro di non esserti scordato di resnappare le note, dopo l'ultimo aggiornamento di timing? mi sembrano spostate in anticipo...Bella difficoltà, il finale è un pò insane, ma va bene così!
Ho visto qualche imprecisone nello spacing, te lo riporto, poi fai te, per me va benissimo così D:
00:35:875 (5) - spostalo di un quadratino a sinistra xD
00:36:582 (7) - un quadratino in basso e uno a sinistra?
01:06:619 (4) - un quadratino a sinistra u.u

Sono tutti suggerimenti, non ci sono errori, bravo! +star~
Shinxyn
After seeing the map, I get why there were some people pointing out that theses songs don't work well as beatmaps X__X
Timing seems fair, maybe +5 though ._.

Normal-
00:30:574 (1) - add clap to start?
00:34:815 - add clap?
00:50:540 (2,3) - mmm just don't have notes 1/2 apart for this diff..? (maybe shorten (2) by 1/2?)
01:50:791 (7) - new combo?

Hard-
@.@!~ yea, the music doesn't work well as I beatmap imo, but that's just the music
01:10:000 (4) - clap sounds weird here, might work better on the start of (5)?
01:33:335 (6) - down a tick so this is a nice curve please :3
01:46:683 (5) - all notes beyond this point is snapped to 1/4 beats instead of 1/2, you resnapped it wrong after applying new BPM

Popping pubble till farther notice

EDIT: re-proto-bubbled, though I would suggest for more suggestive mods~ nothing technical anymore (unless someone can get even better timing)
Andrea
[Hard]

02:01:563 (8) - New combo goes here or the combo it's too long.
02:43:436 (1) - Add clap here.
02:43:789 (1) - Remove clap here.
Topic Starter
Zodiark1020

osuplayer111 wrote:

[Hard]

02:01:563 (8) - New combo goes here or the combo it's too long. Yes
02:43:436 (1) - Add clap here. Did it with a little less volume
02:43:789 (1) - Remove clap here. Ok
Thank you very much^^
Andrea
Good now.

Bubbled~

To the next BAT: Please make sure to recheck the timing before rank, thanks.
Larto
Overall:
- Remove "Fire and Ice" from the source. Add it to the tags if you must, but it's not supposed to be in the source.
- Hitsounds sound a bit too loud.

Timing:
BPM: 169.785 ?

Hard:
Increase Overall Difficulty by one tick?
01:03:440 (1,2,3,4,5) - This stream doesn't quite fit the map at this point. remove the 1/4 notes.
01:33:654 (8,9,10,11) - That pattern is bleh. Keep if you must, but I dislike it. >:(
02:40:003 (2) - Remove?
03:23:558 (8) - This slider doesn't quite fit the song at that point. I mean, it makes sense, but it doesn't really fit the song.

Normal:
00:52:129 (1) - Aw, that long spinner is pointless, come on, you can map this part better.
02:06:687 (1) - This spinner would be better if it was just a break >_>

02:16:581 (1) - Move this spinner to 02:17:376 and let it end at 02:20:115.
02:16:581 - Add a circle, then...
02:17:288 - Add a circle again.
So it looks sort of like this.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4892
You don't have to do this, but it'd probably make the ending more epic/fun.
Topic Starter
Zodiark1020

Larto wrote:

Overall:
- Remove "Fire and Ice" from the source. Add it to the tags if you must, but it's not supposed to be in the source. ok
- Hitsounds sound a bit too loud. I noticed...

Timing:
BPM: 169.785 ? yeh it sounds better

Hard:
Increase Overall Difficulty by one tick? okay
01:03:440 (1,2,3,4,5) - This stream doesn't quite fit the map at this point. remove the 1/4 notes. okok
01:33:654 (8,9,10,11) - That pattern is bleh. Keep if you must, but I dislike it. >:( well if something changes my mind with better pattern I'll change it
02:40:003 (2) - Remove? Nah
03:23:558 (8) - This slider doesn't quite fit the song at that point. I mean, it makes sense, but it doesn't really fit the song. Are circles' ok instead of slider?

Normal:
00:52:129 (1) - Aw, that long spinner is pointless, come on, you can map this part better. mapped
02:06:687 (1) - This spinner would be better if it was just a break >_> breaked xD

02:16:581 (1) - Move this spinner to 02:17:376 and let it end at 02:20:115. Ok, but i though it sounded sounded bad if it started on blue tick...whatever
02:16:581 - Add a circle, then...
02:17:288 - Add a circle again.
So it looks sort of like this.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4892
You don't have to do this, but it'd probably make the ending more epic/fun.=D
Larto
whee
abalee
Hard:
03:23:911 (7) - IMO it doesn't follow the music. although larto said that it should be circle, I'd like slider that from 03:23:558 - to 03:24:000 -

anyway I don't pop it. ask for more suggestions If you like.
Metroid
Normal
01:03:793(2) - Get this right under the (1)?

Hard
Fine to me.

Have a star and get this Ranked.
Pasonia
*dodges from Metroid's AC130*

anyway, a few gripes.

Difficulty spread is kind of ridiculous really, it's either too bland (Normal) or too hard (Insane). Then again, I am of the opinion this "Insane" is really just slightly harder than hard due to the spacing change towards 60% (specifically at 02:28:606 onwards to 02:51:223). SB is required.

Other than that, for now no really hard issues with the difficulty spread. I'm even inclined to think asking you to name it Insane is merely being cosmetic about it.
Pasonia
Since spinning around for twenty minutes in IRC didn't work anything out, here's your SB'ed codes.

I'm sorry I'm a hand-coder and absolutely dislike the SB designer, but that's a personal opinion.

EDIT: Bubbled.

Download: Yngwie Malmsteen - Cry No More (Zodiark1020) [Insane].osu
Topic Starter
Zodiark1020

Pasonia wrote:

Since spinning around for twenty minutes in IRC didn't work anything out, here's your SB'ed codes.

I'm sorry I'm a hand-coder and absolutely dislike the SB designer, but that's a personal opinion.

EDIT: Bubbled.
Thanks =)
Mafiamaster
Seems good.

RANKED!

Congrats on getting one of your album project songs ranked~
Topic Starter
Zodiark1020

Mafiamaster wrote:

Seems good.

RANKED!

Congrats on getting one of your album project songs ranked~
Thanks, I really didn't expect rank lol
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