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Yoko Shimomura - Scherzo Di Notte

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Dusty
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Dusty
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, May 21, 2010 at 10:08:42 AM

Artist: Yoko Shimomura
Title: Scherzo Di Notte
Source: Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories
Tags: Shulin hollow bastion
BPM: 140
Filesize: 1720kb
Play Time: 01:22
Difficulties Available:
  1. Beginner (1.33 stars, 74 notes)
  2. Proud (4.91 stars, 247 notes)
  3. Shulin's Critical (4.99 stars, 263 notes)
  4. Standard (3.16 stars, 108 notes)
Download: Yoko Shimomura - Scherzo Di Notte
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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2/23: Shulin's mod, full redownload required
2/24: Shulin's diff added, full redownload required
astom's mod
2/27: updated Shulin's, Nivalis's mod
xxheroxx's mod
Thematic difficulty names, full redownload required (sorry)
2/28: added Beginner, full redownload required
3/1: added NoHItter's .mp3, full redownload required (again)
3/5: finished rust45's mods
3/6: arken's mods
3/7: Lybydose's timing, James2250's nazi mod, resnapped all noted (oops)
3/27: stuff
4/7 stuff
4/9 attempt to redo hitsounds
5/3 got some more mods and changed their stuff
5/7 larto, leorda's mod
5/9 DC
5/17 strager pop
5/21 updated Shulin's
Last edited by Dusty , edited 23 times in total.
Shulin
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Shulin
You should have done the Birth by Sleep version XD

General:

-- Try offset 384 ~ I was tempted to throw in some timing sections.
-- Delete the .osb lol.

Normal:

-- Preview point?

00:15:812 (1) - I like slider art but this is kind of confusing, especially on the return.
01:02:098 (1) - ^ But meh, its manageable.

Hard:

-- Preview point?
-- Lower HP Drain by one maybe.

00:04:884 (2,3,4,5,6) - Stream spacing here is hard to grasp, it looks like a 1/2 going to a 1/4 when it's actually a 1/4 stream.
00:22:884 (4,5,6,7,8) - Tricky stream shape XD.
00:23:526 (1,2,3,4,5) - The overlaps from the previous combo actually make this quite hard to see (the start of it), its probably due to the angle.
00:51:169 (2,3,4,5,6) - Same about the stream spacing here.
01:09:169 (4,5,7,8) - Tricky stream shape again XD

Nice, can I try a difficulty?

~ Star.
Dusty
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Dusty
Thanks for modding!

Shulin wrote:

You should have done the Birth by Sleep version XD
Why don't you? If you do that I'll make more awesome guest difficulties. :D And it's not like other maps don't have a gajillion different versions. Bad Apple!!'s getting a fourth right now...

Shulin wrote:

General:

-- Try offset 384 ~ I was tempted to throw in some timing sections.
Changed, I usually only time to "good enough to map" quality because I suck at timing
unrankable things
changed

Shulin wrote:

Normal:

00:15:812 (1) - I like slider art but this is kind of confusing, especially on the return.
01:02:098 (1) - ^ But meh, its manageable.
It's not slider art, it's supposed to accelerate toward the top and then decelerate back down (you can hold the cursor down near the center y-axis) (but it's ugly, yeah.)

Shulin wrote:

Hard:

-- Lower HP Drain by one maybe.
OK.

Shulin wrote:

00:04:884 (2,3,4,5,6) - Stream spacing here is hard to grasp, it looks like a 1/2 going to a 1/4 when it's actually a 1/4 stream.
Really? 2->3 is closer now, then.

Shulin wrote:

00:22:884 (4,5,6,7,8) - Tricky stream shape XD.
Mmh, changed

Shulin wrote:

00:23:526 (1,2,3,4,5) - The overlaps from the previous combo actually make this quite hard to see (the start of it), its probably due to the angle.
Mucked around with spacing, but fixed.

Shulin wrote:

00:51:169 (2,3,4,5,6) - Same about the stream spacing here.
01:09:169 (4,5,7,8) - Tricky stream shape again XD
Those are in the copy+paste section :D, fixed.

Shulin wrote:

Nice, can I try a difficulty?
Sure!
Shulin
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Shulin

Dusty wrote:

ok, so this song was actually a pretty dull song to try to make a map out of. Half a minute of song before a repeat?
You are so right.

Anyway, this was meant to be a Normal + or something but it ended up being an Insane... Oh right, could you make the preview time on my difficulty the same as yours because everytime I changed it in notepad it refused to accept it.

EDIT: Oh right and I just noticed you have an overlapping spinner-slider on Hard at 01:22:669 (1) - you might want to fix that ;)

Download: Yoko Shimomura - Scherzo Di Notte (Dusty) [Insane].osu
Dusty
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Dusty

Shulin wrote:

EDIT: Oh right and I just noticed you have an overlapping spinner-slider on Hard at 01:22:669 (1) - you might want to fix that ;)
oops, copy+paste error.
Astom
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Astom
[Normal]
-98% Acc I don't see problems

[Hard]
-mmm 90& Acc, maybe you can reduce the distance in stream anyway it was only my first attempt so I no see problems

[Shulin's Insane]
-90% Acc (first try) I like more this difficulty, nothing personal xD, and yes... I don't see problems :3



Star :lol:
Dusty
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Dusty

Astom wrote:

[Hard]
maybe you can reduce the distance in stream anyway it was only my first attempt so I no see problems
Yeah, I mapped it before I got Shulin's so I went all out on the spacing because I thought that was the hardest diff I'd make in the set. :?

I reduced the spacing on most of the streams (and had to add a few to make spacing stay sane and avoid excessive antijumps)
Niva
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Niva
-Normal-
[00:31:241] and [01:14:955] - These slider touches the HP bar :) Just mentioning

-Hard-
There are some sliders touching the HP bar...

-Shulin's Insane-
00:10:026 (8) - Make this slider's height same as 00:09:169 (6)
01:20:312 (1) - These combos only consisting of four circles, but 01:20:955 (1)'s combos consisting of five circles. Make both four or five.

A fun yet quite hard to play map :) *stars*
Shulin
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Shulin
Update ~ changed those even numbered streams and minor nazi.

Download: Yoko Shimomura - Scherzo Di Notte (Dusty) [Shulin's Insane].osu
Diasios
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Diasios
The mp3 you are using is a lot longer than the part which is mapped. Consider cropping it to reduce filesize.
Also... "Copy and Paste FTW~" :lol: Seriously, don't do it: it would be awesome D:
Dusty
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Dusty

xxheroxx wrote:

The mp3 you are using is a lot longer than the part which is mapped. Consider cropping it to reduce filesize.
I tried and failed miserably, it ended up 0.03MB larger. (Oops?)

xxheroxx wrote:

Also... "Copy and Paste FTW~" :lol: Seriously, don't do it: it would be awesome D:
Sure, changing (I like copy+paste though, I'm so lazy. :()
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Try this .mp3

Download: 8-05 Scherzo Di Notte 2.mp3
Dusty
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Dusty
Thanks, NoHItter!
rust45
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rust45
The copy paste isn't me cup of tea as the song kinda already makes it repetitive, but it's not too bad.
[Proud]
There seem to be a lot of new combos here IMO.
Some Note worthy examples:
00:29:586 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Just cause it's ztrot spacing doesn't mean you have to add the new combos.
00:32:158 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^
01:15:872 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I don't even understand why there are so many new combos here.
01:18:444 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^

That's all I found, call me back again a tad later and I'll check about pubbling.
Dusty
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Dusty

rust45 wrote:

01:15:872 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I don't even understand why there are so many new combos here.
01:18:444 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^
Because of rainbow colors! (Not a very good reason, I know. I'll go change those sections and the other ones, too.)

And I'm probably going to change that ztrot spacing part, I don't really like how I used it anymore.
arien666
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arien666
[Beginner]
No problem

[Standard]
No problem

[Proud]
00:53:158 (1) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid up?

[Shulin's Critical]
00:16:515 (2,3) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid up?
00:25:301 (9) - ^
00:25:515 (10) - [Suggestion] How about move 2 grid up?
00:49:193 (8) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid right?
00:51:229 (6) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid left and down?
01:13:515 (2) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid up?
01:17:586 (1) - Is 2nd grey grid necessery? [http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4622]
01:22:086 (3) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid left and up?
01:22:300 (4,5,6) - [Suggestion] How about move 2 grid up?



Nice song :3
And great diffs.
Anyway,
Proto-bubble able imo XD
Umm... If fix, I'll pubble this song :3

Here's my star :3
Dusty
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Dusty

arken1015 wrote:

[Proud]
00:53:158 (1) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid up?
Sure, why not, it looks a little better that way. (I also moved (4) up for symmetry.)
arien666
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arien666
Then?

Proto-bubbled :3

Good luck XD
Shulin
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Shulin
Changed some of the things arken mentioned.

Offset: 464?

Download: Yoko Shimomura - Scherzo Di Notte (Dusty) [Shulin's Critical].osu
Dusty
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Dusty
I don't know, the timing works well for me.
Shulin
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Shulin

Dusty wrote:

I don't know, the timing works well for me.
Hm, it plays way off for me on all difficulties... Well I'll use a custom offset lol
Lybydose
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Lybydose
Timing is waaay off

Offset: 470
James2250
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James2250
*popped*

I agree the offset definitely sounds early
I get 465 (up to you if you want to use 465 or 464)

also on proud: 00:16:515 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - keep spacing equal

Edit:
Posted 1 minute after lol
Kytoxid
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Kytoxid
MATs are getting mighty prickly towards protos. XD

Dropping in a star for a cool map by a cool guy for a cool song. Felt pretty good on a play-through, didn't do a detailed mod, with the number of MATs swarming already. I'll do one soon if it's not bubbled though.
Dusty
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Dusty

James2250 wrote:

also on proud: 00:16:515 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - keep spacing equal
fine

Lybydose wrote:

Timing is waaay off

Offset: 470
I used this timing, thanks for that.

Shulin wrote:

Offset: 464?
Wow, my UO is off by 25ms and I didn't notice until today, sorry about that :?

Kytoxid wrote:

MATs are getting mighty prickly towards protos. XD

Dropping in a star for a cool map by a cool guy for a cool song. Felt pretty good on a play-through, didn't do a detailed mod, with the number of MATs swarming already. I'll do one soon if it's not bubbled though.
thanks
James2250
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James2250
Critical isn't resnapped~
let me know when it is

Edit:
ok Re-Pubbled!
RandomJibberish
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RandomJibberish
Nice map~

General: The first three diffs seem slightly repetetive. I don't really mind, but some might find it boring.
Don't see any real problems with them otherwise.

Shulin's Critical:
00:17:827 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I think this stream should be more rounded at the end.
01:04:112 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^

Otherwise, I just feel that the only thing givig this diff difficulty is the streams - I think some more challenging patterns outside the streams would be nice. No real problems though.

Overall a great map. Star~
Shulin
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Shulin

RandomJibberish wrote:

Shulin's Critical:
00:17:827 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I think this stream should be more rounded at the end. I disagree
01:04:112 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^ ^

Otherwise, I just feel that the only thing givig this diff difficulty is the streams - I think some more challenging patterns outside the streams would be nice. No real problems though. I guess I could have made some really challenging patterns that were really hard to FC, but I like how it plays atm :P
Anyway no changes D:
Dusty
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RandomJibberish wrote:

Nice map~

General: The first three diffs seem slightly repetetive. I don't really mind, but some might find it boring.
Don't see any real problems with them otherwise.
I agree
orioncomet
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orioncomet
Just some suggestions.

[Beginner]
00:36:470 (1) - end this spinner at red tick backward (00:38:827) and add sound finish?
01:22:755 (1) - ^ (01:25:112) ^

[Standard]
00:01:755 (4) - look so far from (3)
00:36:470 (1) - like [Beginner]
01:22:755 (1) - ^

[Proud]
00:37:970 (1) - like [Beginner] (=w= but seem too short, idk, but auto still can got 2000)
01:22:755 (1) - ^

[Shulin's Critical]
00:36:577 (1) - like [Beginner]
01:22:755 (1) - ^

Star ~ ^^
yeahyeahyeahhh
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yeahyeahyeahhh
i think all diffs can use some hitsound work :<
Shulin
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Shulin

orioncomet wrote:

Just some suggestions.
[Shulin's Critical]
00:36:577 (1) - like [Beginner]
01:22:755 (1) - ^
Sure, done.

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

i think all diffs can use some hitsound work :<
Yeah, maybe too much whistle and finish I couldn't find anything else to fit on my diff :?

Download: Yoko Shimomura - Scherzo Di Notte (Dusty) [Shulin's Critical].osu
Dusty
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Dusty
finally got around to it

All difficulties updated.
Garven
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[Beginner]
I really don't like the whistle sound on slider slides, so if these were intentional, feel free to leave them in. For the most part, people don't even realized they are there, hehe. --Well, I'll leave it up to you if you want them in there. You used them in all the difficulties, though I still don't really like the sound of them.
SPOILER
00:04:327 (1) - Remove whistle from slider slide.
00:09:470 (1) - ^
00:18:469 (1) - ^
00:23:612 (1) - ^
00:31:327 (1) - ^
00:50:612 (1) - ^
00:55:755 (1) - ^
01:04:755 (1) - ^
01:09:898 (1) - ^
01:17:612 (1) - ^

If they were intentional, then this is all I really found:
00:57:470 (2) - Move this right one grid to line up with previous slider end.

[Standard]
Overall, the spacing feels kind of high for a normal mode, most probably due to you going out of the distance snap for the symmetrical designs. Beyond that, all I've got is this nazi for ya:
00:21:469 (2) - Move left one grid
00:22:755 (2) - Move right one grid

[Proud]
I really like the designs you did in this map, though some of the jumps really destroyed me, haha. It works really well though, and nothing to nitpick at really except those slider whistles. :P

[Shulin's Critical]
I actually found this to be easier than Proud, though I think it's because I handle streams better than jumps, hehe.
It's a nice map though. Kept the hit sounds similar too, which is really nice.

Eh, couldn't find much. Good stuff. Hope you can focus on it more later on!
Krisom
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Hi hi!

-Beginner
Remove the whistle from the ending/body of the slider at 00:04:327?
00:09:470 ^ (edit: garven beat me to it <_<)
00:11:612 (3) is not distance snapped. Maybe you could do something like this for the sake of symmetry:
SPOILER
I'm just pointing this one out because this is the only one that disturbed me while playing, the others are allright.

-Standard
Remove whistle at 00:35:184 (1)?
It's a really good Normal diff =D

-Proud
Maybe I'm just too newb to notice anything here, but I really liked this one =D

-Shulin's Critical
I think that it sould sound really great if this diff used the claps from Proud sometimes. Even so, I really liked this diff too =D, but It's kinda easier than Proud. Maybe you could rise OD +1?


I love your mapping style ^^! Star
Dusty
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Dusty

Garven wrote:

mods

Krisom wrote:

mods
I fixed mods, including some sliderwhistle removals. Thanks!
Larto
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Larto
Standard:
00:15:898 (1) - slider is a bit ugly

Beginner:
00:27:469 (2,1) - Spacing? These objects are a bit too close
00:59:612 (1,1) - And these are a bit too far away.
Leorda
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Leorda
Hi

[General]
Disable the countdown, since the countdown is not appear

[File]
1) FIND THE BETTER BG!!!!!! IT'S AWFUL MAN!!!!!
2) Delete .osb and full submit

[Beginner]
00:01:755 (2) - Mix it up with finish and whistle is looks bad I think...... Maybe remove finish or whistle????
00:04:327 (1) - Remove new combo???
00:09:470 (1) - ^
00:50:612 (1) - ^
00:55:755 (1) - ^

[Standard]
00:01:755 (4) - Mix it up with finish and whistle is looks bad I think...... Maybe remove finish or whistle????
00:01:327 (3,4) - No jump at normal diff
00:01:755 (4,6) - Flip them to make nice pattern?
00:06:041 (3,4) - Spacing error
00:11:184 (3,4) - ^
00:27:041 (3,1) - No jump at normal diff
00:30:041 (3,4) - Spacing error
00:52:327 (3,4) - ^
01:02:612 (2,3) - ^

[Proud]
00:05:612 (1) - Mix it up with finish and clap is looks bad I think...... Maybe remove finish or clap????
00:06:898 (1) - ^
00:51:898 (1) - ^
00:53:184 (1) - ^

[ShuShuLilin's Critical]
Aw, your mom will proud of you if you make a guest diff for Dusty, LOL

00:18:470 (7) - New combo please
00:49:327 (9) - ^
01:04:755 (7) - ^

Good song
STAR
Dusty
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Dusty

Leorda wrote:

[Beginner]
00:01:755 (2) - Mix it up with finish and whistle is looks bad I think...... Maybe remove finish or whistle????
trying to make it interesting for the Taiko players

[Standard]
00:01:327 (3,4) - No jump at normal diff
Why not? I'm pretty sure it's readable.

Larto wrote:

Standard:
00:15:898 (1) - slider is a bit ugly

Beginner:
00:27:469 (2,1) - Spacing? These objects are a bit too close
00:59:612 (1,1) - And these are a bit too far away.
oops, fixed
Shulin
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Shulin

Leorda wrote:

[ShuShuLilin's Critical]
Aw, your mom will proud of you if you make a guest diff for Dusty, LOL

00:18:470 (7) - New combo please
00:49:327 (9) - ^
01:04:755 (7) - ^

Good song
STAR
Putting new combo's mid stream looked a bit random to be, so no change I guess :?
aRiskOfRain
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aRiskOfRain
Beginner;
01:07:327 (1,2) - What's with this spacing?

Critical;
00:18:470 (7) - I'd put a new combo here.
Dusty
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Dusty

DiamondCrash wrote:

Beginner;
01:07:327 (1,2) - What's with this spacing?
dunno. It's fixed now, though.
Larto
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Larto
boom
Dusty
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Dusty

Larto wrote:

boom
Thanks!
anonymous_old
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Here since the beginning
anonymous_old
Beginner
Best Easy I've seen in a while! Great!

00:13:327 (1) - Timing feels weird. Also, the time of this note is almost leet.
00:59:612 (1) - ^

Standard
Pretty good Normal difficulty.

00:04:327 (3) - Looks ugly.
00:09:470 (3) - ^
00:13:327 (1,1) - Could be curved around the ends a bit more.
00:15:898 (1) - Hitsound this ?
00:26:184 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - <3
00:34:755 (2,2) - Timing feels weird.

If you make a change, remember to propogate them in the second half of the map.

Proud
Not as smooth as Shulin's diff, mainly because of more direction changes, but it still plays nicely.

I liked things like 00:22:969 (4,5,6) and 00:33:898 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4) in this map.

Shulin's Critical
One word for this diff: smooooth.

Plays very well. I'm impressed.

00:33:898 (8,1) - "Jump" is kinda unexpected. Oh well, something for me to memorize.
01:08:184 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 1/2 double stacks don't seem appropriate here. They don't match the music.
01:20:184 (5,1) - This "jump" is readable because of the (4,5) stack. Perhaps consider that for the previous instance of the 1/4 stack?

This set receives...


Though before ranking, I really thinking Standard needs some tweaking.
Dusty
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Dusty

strager wrote:

Beginner
Best Easy I've seen in a while! Great!

00:13:327 (1) - Timing feels weird. Also, the time of this note is almost leet. Tried to do something about it.
00:59:612 (1) - ^

Standard
Pretty good Normal difficulty.

00:04:327 (3) - Looks ugly.IRC change
00:09:470 (3) - ^
00:13:327 (1,1) - Could be curved around the ends a bit more. fuck you, making me change my sliders, what a pain -_-;
00:15:898 (1) - Hitsound this ? yeah
00:26:184 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - <3 ♥
00:34:755 (2,2) - Timing feels weird.

If you make a change, remember to propogate them in the second half of the map. mhm

Proud
Not as smooth as Shulin's diff, mainly because of more direction changes, but it still plays nicely. Usually the harder I make them, the worse my maps get lol

I liked things like 00:22:969 (4,5,6) and 00:33:898 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4) in this map.

Shulin's Critical
One word for this diff: smooooth.

Plays very well. I'm impressed.

00:33:898 (8,1) - "Jump" is kinda unexpected. Oh well, something for me to memorize.
01:08:184 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 1/2 double stacks don't seem appropriate here. They don't match the music.
01:20:184 (5,1) - This "jump" is readable because of the (4,5) stack. Perhaps consider that for the previous instance of the 1/4 stack?

This set receives...

Yay, a seel.

Though before ranking, I really thinking Standard needs some tweaking. OK
Shulin
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Shulin

strager wrote:

Shulin's Critical
One word for this diff: smooooth.

Plays very well. I'm impressed.

00:33:898 (8,1) - "Jump" is kinda unexpected. Oh well, something for me to memorize. Changed stuff ^_^
01:08:184 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 1/2 double stacks don't seem appropriate here. They don't match the music. Less stacks now.
01:20:184 (5,1) - This "jump" is readable because of the (4,5) stack. Perhaps consider that for the previous instance of the 1/4 stack? Yep, the other section is like this now XD
Download: Yoko Shimomura - Scherzo Di Notte (Dusty) [Shulin's Critical].osu
Larto
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Larto
i am a hot dog
abalee
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abalee
Played well. Ranked.
Dusty
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Joined June 2009
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Dusty
Thanks, abalee.
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