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Glass
10-8 if I like both the map and song, 1 if it's some vocaloid junk
Mismagius
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12842

lalalalala

i vote in extremely rarecases. but if i find the map a junk, i vote it 6. :P
Vanmonky
I always vote 10-8 for every map, even if I hate the map.
Jinxy
I use 10 if I enjoyed the map and it had a good flow. Unfortunately I don't have that many favorite slots.
9 if there was a small thing that felt off.
4 if something tripped me up.
1 if I think the map was trippy AND overvoted
Xgor

Lybydose wrote:

I don't vote on anything, except in extremely rare cases.

Lybydose wrote:

I'd also like to add that I haven't even voted on most of the maps in my favorites.
I'm like Lybydose :P

But when i vote i probably with the same reasoning like An64fan.

Those that vote 10s and 1s at a standard basis are stupid
Gabi
oh blablabla who the fuck cares about rating. it's not even accurate the slightest bit.

10 = "map/song was good."
1 = "i couldn't fc the song"

that is basicly how it is for most people, deal with it.

we all don't go by anyones standard to vote less then 10 just because it isn't on our favorite.

for me, well i usually don't vote mainly because i hardly ever play ranked maps, and once i pass them i usually forgett to vote and click away the voting screen too fast by habbit. Unless the map really strikes me as awesome and fun, i usually forgett to vote.

ALSO

someone wrote:

10-8 if I like both the map and song, 1 if it's some vocaloid junk
1 if it is VOCALOID JUNK/SONG. There you go people, they don't care about your maps, if you don't pick a good song your maps will be victims.
ShaggoN

Gabi wrote:

oh blablabla who the fuck cares about rating. it's not even accurate the slightest bit.

10 = "map/song was good."
1 = "i couldn't fc the song"

that is basicly how it is for most people, deal with it.
That's really sad but it's true >:(

I vote on every beatmap i play. But before i vote i play each difficulty at least few times. Then i think about good sides, bad sides, put them together, and give a vote. I use every rates (1-10). I like to rate beatmaps. Anyway, at the moment, there is no beatmap i voted "1", and two beatmaps i voted "10".
In my opinion: When You want tot vote. Think about it, and try to do it correctly.
Glass

Gabi wrote:

someone wrote:

10-8 if I like both the map and song, 1 if it's some vocaloid junk
1 if it is VOCALOID JUNK/SONG. There you go people, they don't care about your maps, if you don't pick a good song your maps will be victims.
Victims? Oh you said it yourself, "who the fuck cares about ratings".

Gabi wrote:

oh blablabla who the fuck cares about rating. it's not even accurate the slightest bit.
[...]

deal with it.
Since you don't seem to get the slightest idea of why someone would give a bad rating if the song is bad:

Crappy song -> Headache -> Unability to follow the rythm/beat -> Fuck this shit I'm giving it a 1.

If you STILL don't understand I'll make a flowchart later. Nvm I can't be bothered.
Mystearica
fc = 10
mapper is your friend = 10
sb gives a headache = 1
kiai making you blind = 1
hate the mapper = 1
don't like the song = 1
dumb mistake didn't fc and rage = 1

feel free to flame what i'm saying but this is the pattern really.

basically what gabi and shaggon said. ratings aren't accurate and there's no point really, you can just gather up a bunch of people and spam 1s on someone's map anyway, i've been the target of such movements 4 times myself and i'm sure others have experienced similar. the rating system represents nothing which also goes to show why mapper ranking is a joke. it's all bonus based on the number of ranked maps you have unfortunately.

every map that goes up now is almost guaranteed a 9 because people give 10 so easily, see the old maps are all around 8.2 - 8.5.

if you take away all of the bonus james has based on all of his ranked maps, he's only 8.5 or so, is he still truly one of the best mappers? yes.

go ahead and flame me all you want, just direct what you have to say to me and not everyone else that shares my opinion, i don't care if you want to flame me. my bottom line? i don't vote anymore, and i think that's fair enough.
Gabi

Glasslake wrote:

Victims? Oh you said it yourself, "who the fuck cares about ratings".
Yes? what is your point?

Unfortuanetley every osu! player doesn't share that thought, so they get mad if they have their map voted one. This leaves them insecure if their map is good or not.

Since you don't seem to get the slightest idea of why someone would give a bad rating if the song is bad:

Crappy song -> Headache -> Unability to follow the rythm/beat -> Fuck this shit I'm giving it a 1.

If you STILL don't understand I'll make a flowchart later. Nvm I can't be bothered.
Good, so you proved my point on how retarded people can be when they vote. Try re-reading my first post and you might understand a little more. It's not just about the song, if you want to rate just a song go on youtube and go rate them there. You are rating a map here, not just a song.

How would you feel if you picked a song that 90% of the community voted 1 on just because they didn't like it? yet you had put so much effort into your map and everything.

I can't really bother to explain more to you right now, seems like you just joined the community and you don't seem to get any of the things i say. If you still don't understand (you probably won't) feel free to send me a pm and i can make it even more clear to you.
MegaManEXE
For me it goes like this, in order of priority:

1=
Bad map
Map with retarded spacing (this means authentic maps, and yes I 1'd Don't Stop Me Now, what are you going to do about it)
Ugly map
Boring map
Shitty song
Hate the mapper
Bad bg+kiai+combo colors, meaning I can't see shit
Shitty skin

10=
Map I made a difficulty for
Friend's map
Fun map (usually if it has streams I'll give it a 10)
Interesting patterns
Nice song

I'm not one of those people who 1s a map because I can't fc, I like a lot of hard maps and I've 10'd many that I can't play the hardest diff on just because I can tell when the mapper put some god damn effort into arranging and making it look and play nice even if it's hard.

And I usually don't influence my vote based on a storyboard or bg video; I'm here to play a game, not watch shit flying around in the background (since I know 95% of the people who voted 10 on Bad Apple voted it because they like the shadow art video, there's no way that many people could think that map is good at all).
Glass
@Gabi:

You think I don't get anything you say because I just joined the community?(lolwat)

Your point is people deserve to get rated more depended on their maps instead of both the maps and song, my point is no matter how hard you try to map a bad song, the effort you put into the map will still be overshadowed by the quality of the song you chose. You make a map based on the song, so how exactly are you going to get a good map from a bad song? Moreover, how do you expect people to enjoy a map if the song itself sounds like crap, playing with sound off? Seriously.

The songs don't matter, you say? As far I'm concerned, Osu! is a music/rythm game. So good luck getting a coherent series of circles based on a song that sounds like utterly jackshit. You like the simplicity of clicking circles? Go play wack-a-mole.

Also, I clearly said I would only give 10-8 if I liked both the map and song, so don't assume that I would easily hand out 10's just because the song is good.

And you might wanna get a little more clue next time you choose to argue with someone just because they're "new to the community".

PS: Don't even bother PMing me about this because I have better things to do than trying to get this through your thick skull.
GladiOol

MegaManEXE wrote:

I vote 10 or 1.

Nothing else.
I love you, you're almost like me XD
ouranhshc

Lybydose wrote:

I don't vote on anything, except in extremely rare cases.
awp
itt: we are all honest and open about why we're terrible at voting

10 = Even if this map isn't perfect, it's so close I don't really care
9 = It's fantastic, but trails behind the best
8 = good, no obvious flaws
7 = good, no obvious flaws, but christ the song is bland
6 = this map is unimaginitive
5 = this map is pretty terrible
4 = N/A
3 = N/A
2 = N/A
1 = not sure, don't know if I've ever voted a 1 on anything; a 1 means it's horrid and whoever ranked/bubbled it should be kicked out of the BAT/MAT because it is among the lowest of quality


Not all maps I voted 10 on are in my favourites, and not all of my favourites I've voted 10 on. But I'm pretty sure, for every map I've voted a 10, LH has played at least some small part in it. Except for that StH Pirate Island map, afaik he had no role in that and I think I gave that a ten.


imo voting a 10 or 1 on a map for reasons totally unrelated to the map (such as the mapper's country of origin, or your relationship with the mapper) makes you an absolute tool

Ratings are supposed to be an indicator of which maps are good. I mean, that's clearly not the case, and we've fucked the ratings so far up the ass that they'll never be able to settle down again, but that was the intention behind ratings originally.
Gabi
Alright Glasslake, i see that you aren't even bothering to properly read my posts, or you are just being plain stupid.

Your point is people deserve to get rated more depended on their maps instead of both the maps and song
My point has always been that people should rate on both the maps and song.

No where in my post did i imply that a song doesn't matter. I am trying to tell you that people who vote just for the song (or for reasons like not being able to fc) are those kinds of people who ruin this system.

You make a map based on the song, so how exactly are you going to get a good map from a bad song?
Are you joking with me? Tell me what a bad song is. To you it seems like a bad map is a vocaloid map. one of the best maps in this game is actually a vocaloid map mapped by Al-Azif. There is no way that his map should get rated 1 just because you don't like the song. Basicly your point is stupid.

You are new to the community, so i doubt you have read any of the threads concerning the rating system.

Again you didn't read my post, i never wanted to pm you. Please read it again and see what i said.
Glass

Gabi wrote:

Alright Glasslake, i see that you aren't even bothering to properly read my posts, or you are just being plain stupid.

Your point is people deserve to get rated more depended on their maps instead of both the maps and song
My point has always been that people should rate on both the maps and song.

No where in my post did i imply that a song doesn't matter. I am trying to tell you that people who vote just for the song (or for reasons like not being able to fc) are those kinds of people who ruin this system.

You make a map based on the song, so how exactly are you going to get a good map from a bad song?
Are you joking with me? Tell me what a bad song is. To you it seems like a bad map is a vocaloid map. one of the best maps in this game is actually a vocaloid map mapped by Al-Azif. There is no way that his map should get rated 1 just because you don't like the song. Basicly your point is stupid.

You are new to the community, so i doubt you have read any of the threads concerning the rating system.

Again you didn't read my post, i never wanted to pm you. Please read it again and see what i said.
Now that you're getting on my nerves and started personal attacks,

Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about?

Glasslake wrote:

the effort you put into the map will still be overshadowed by the quality of the song you chose. You make a map based on the song, so how exactly are you going to get a good map from a bad song? Moreover, how do you expect people to enjoy a map if the song itself sounds like crap, playing with sound off? Seriously.
THIS, is my point. Yet you evaded it completely and went on how did I mistaken your opinion on how rating should be done(Do I even give a shit about how you rate songs?). You quoted my first post saying it's a retarded way of rating, I refuted it, and you ignored my response, good job. You're saying my point is stupid? So basically you're telling everybody to endure a shitty song just to play through en entire map and give it a rating the map deserves.

And no I never played that map Al-Azif made and it's probably the only good one like you said, but do I have to play every single one of those vocaloid shits to say that most of them are utter junk? So far all of those I played sounded like utterly shit so I'm not even gonna bother wasting anymore of my time trying those out.

I didn't read those threads about the rating system and I don't care, I'll continue rating songs based on my own criterias.

Apparently I didn't read your atrocious post yet I refuted every point of yours. Makes total sense.

Also, I told you not to PM me not because you wanted to, it's more of a precaution so you don't flood me my mailbox, once again, fucking obvious? And unlike you, I don't need to read a post x times to get the damn point, so telling me to re-read your shit over and over won't change anything.

/Edited out some pointless parts.
Mismagius
GOD, STOP WITH THAT

90% of the community actually rate 10 if it's animu/touhou/vocaloid and 1 if it's not. THAT'S THE TRUTH, AND NOTHING WILL CHANGE THAT.

And no, I don't rate like that.
0_o
My views are 100% aligned with awp's post. (Except for the LH thing)
Mystearica

Blue Dragon wrote:

GOD, STOP WITH THAT

90% of the community actually rate 10 if it's animu/touhou/vocaloid and 1 if it's not. THAT'S THE TRUTH, AND NOTHING WILL CHANGE THAT.

And no, I don't rate like that.
actually that's pretty much true too lol
Dangaard
I think I should vote more 10s to do something against all those 1 voters (ノ゚ω゚)ノ
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Seriously, rating the song only (and really only the song) is totally the wrong way, if you want to do that, exit osu and find a youtube video that features the song and downrate the SONG. This is a game where the rating is directed to more than just a song, you are supposed to rate the map as a whole, and especially the work of the mapper.

My rating is a bit similar to awp's. The lowest rating im giving is ~6 since that's the border of ranking criteria to me. Usually rankable maps are somewhere between 7 and 9, now add a 1 and a 10 to it... you see, there is a much bigger problem with 1s than with 10s.
Soaprman
I spill wine on the carpet and vote the number that the stain most closely resembles.
TKiller
we got a beatmap voting system?
Gabi
Anyways Glasslake i will stop arguing now because you seem to have missunderstood my posts. I guess dans post sums it up a little aswell.

meh, i guess you won't be looking in here anymore since you have better things to do apparently.
HentaiTei
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
eee
I vote 6-10 on most maps
6 is the worst
7 is slightly better
8 is just a regular map, no flaws, no awesome (my rating for most maps)
9 is very fun
10 is awesome (there are tons of awesome maps, I'm not gonna put ALL of them in my favorites)

Edit: awp kinda states it better, I agree with him (and 0_o)
Ephemeral
Songs and beatmaps share a symbiotic relationship.

If one is lacking, the other will suffer also.

It is then only natural that they should be rated assuming they are a cohesive unit. Normally, this is how most people do things. Good songs save bad beatmaps and good beatmaps save bad songs.

This may rattle you, but rating is somewhat accurate of a map's intrinsic worth, if you like.
Breeze
I never vote 1, always 7,8,9
If the map is really awesome, I might vote 10
But I would only favorite the map which I like both the song and map
yeahyeahyeahhh
10 - Map that goes in my favorites or would if I had space (I've only gave out a handful of these). Usually given out to maps I can tell too EFFORT to make. Ya know, hitsounds, inherited timing sections, patterns and such. Any idiots can throw down a clap/whistle pattern and throw notes in circle around the map with the sliders and no-sense jumps.

Usually give out 6-7's based on how I like the map/how it made.

1 - If its a shitty skin (idgaf if I can delete it), poor use of colors (white hitcircles on white background wtf), or kiai on light colors (fuck you).


All honesty I don't rate to often and don't really care about it. If your map is a 10 and your mind thats all you should need.
Zekira
oh blablabla who the fuck cares about rating. it's not even accurate the slightest bit.

10 = "map/song was good."
1 = "i couldn't fc the song"

that is basicly how it is for most people, deal with it.
:( lol http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9917

Off-topic: holy shit DJPop actually plays?! http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39498
Lesjuh

Zekira wrote:

Off-topic: holy shit DJPop actually plays?! http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39498
So what?
Topic Starter
lukewarmholiday
I still find it funny that I tend to vote very low on songs I actually like because I felt the map could have been much better.
aRiskOfRain
I download songs, and delete any I don't like. All the songs I have downloaded I would count as a "favourites" list, because I don't keep anything else.
mm201
Not enough slots in Favourites.

Surely there are more than twenty 10* worthy maps on the system.
anonymous_old

MetalMario201 wrote:

Not enough slots in Favourites.

Surely there are more than twenty 10* worthy maps on the system.
You'd be surprised.
SomeGuyNamedDavid
7: Hate it (rare)
8: Average (my usual)
9: Good (uncommon)
10: Great (rare)

Also I don't fave. Too lazy.
Umandsf
I don't vote on anything, since I have a system in place to get SS on every difficulty of every ranked map by the year 2035. Therefore, I'm playing the songs in order of difficulty. Therefore, I don't play all levels of a map at once to get a full understanding of the entire map in order to vote. For me, if there's a song I really like and/or the layout is impressive (usually the former), I'll add it to Favorites A (Favorites B is for the Monthly Ranking Charts maps).
Sakura
Necro much? anyways i usually vote 10 if i really like the flow on the map with the song, 9 if its a good beatmap but has some parts that were meh, 8 if i like the beatmap, 6 if i didnt like the beatmap, 3 if i find unrankable stuff on it, 1 if the mapper was too lazy to finish a difficulty
qlum
my votes
perfect 10 (never used)
awesome 9
great 8
good 7
above average 6
nothing special 5
another amine intro 4 or 3 depending on my mood
2 shitty map
1 unplayable this can be due to annoying skins or very bad maps and maps I think are extremely overrated also get a 1

I often auto skip the score screen so I don't rate that much.
Nactra
1-Overrated map (anime openings,touhou) <-altough i still find that some are worth their ratings (song delete after fc) (frequent)
2-3-4: there was some effort in this but seriously,it's bad-overmapped/undermapped goes here (song delete after fc) (unusual)
5-6:Boring as hell but decent (song delete after fc) (average rating)
7- lame but fine (song delete after fc) ( frequent)
8-i really enjoyed it but no,i'm not going to play that ever again if i fced (unsual)
Ex:iosys,djmax maps,Darri mixes,perfume
9-i enjoyed this and i will probably keep it on my computer (rare)
Ex:couting you up, fishies,astral,kokoro,serenity,marie antoinette,don't stop me now
10-That was ecxellent and i'll probably play it plenty of times ( very rare)
Ex: the rain came pouring down ,worldendomminator, border of life and voyage1969-70(gojou kais one), erase or zero,Esti-oblivion(not the Darrimix one)
(i think i didn't give any others ecxept by misclicking)

I stick to hardest difficulties, to both play and rating.
Arusha Shuna
1 - Why did i downloaded this song?
2-4 - bad song... bad map, still readable bit nooooo
5 - average song... flaws are found, but not really major
6-7 - Good map, minor flaws are found
8 - Great map! I respect the creator :)
9 - usually for songs that can give me score 8 million+, and the map is awesome, usually English songs
10 - Usually from SB (like don't stop me now), the song is great i can hardly forget it
Favorite - Since there's no 11 - Usually by nice skin elements also outstanding SB, and awesome map flows
Randy96
lol, what's the point of deleting the song after you FC?
I'm a faggot who rates everything 10 I really only late lower if I feel there's something wrong. (copy pasta, only follows the beat)
Nactra
deleting song after fc makes room on your computer :)
Lesjuh

Nactra wrote:

deleting song after fc makes room on your computer :)
And makes sure you don't encounter the map again :[
qlum

Nactra wrote:

deleting song after fc makes room on your computer :)
you could also buy a bigger hdd osu! runs fine on external ones
awp
you should delete bad songs not FC'd songs imo
Nactra
my goal is to fc every single song on hardest difficulty no matter how bad it is, so it would be kinda counterproductive :p
bagnz0r

lukewarmholiday wrote:

You're a retard. Stop overinflating star rankings.

Of course anyone who reads this post probably isn't among the people voting 10 on everything.
I usually vote stuff as 2. If I like the map, I give 8.
awp
I think you mean:

"I vote stuff based on my perceived quality of the map, using 5 as 'barely acceptable', anything less as a scaled failing grade, and everything above based on how much I think the map could have improved. A rating of 10 means I would never want to see anything drastically changed, a rating of 9 means that it is near-perfect and could only stand to have one or two mild improvements. A rating of 8 means I found the map very enjoyable. A rating of 7 means the map was a good effort and is reasonably enjoyable. I had fun playing it, even if I don't feel it's worth playing over and over. A rating of 6 means that the map was at least playable, but it wasn't very fun."

but I get what you mean @ thread
Teras
I vote above 8 if I like the song and the map, simply.
Rolled

lukewarmholiday wrote:

So basically you're telling me your evaluation skills are only capable of voting 10 which is good and 1 which is bad.
This^
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