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Touyama Nao - Hello Alone -Yui Ballade- (TV Size)

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MeekRhino
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Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
MeekRhino
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, October 03, 2014 at 3:41:29 AM

Artist: Touyama Nao
Title: Hello Alone -Yui Ballade- (TV Size)
Source: やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている
Tags: Oregairu ED Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru My youthful romantic SNAFU
BPM: 118
Filesize: 2423kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (2.92 stars, 188 notes)
  2. Normal (2.22 stars, 141 notes)
Download: Touyama Nao - Hello Alone -Yui Ballade- (TV Size)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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I love this song, and mapping is a good excuse to listen to it....a lot.

Phew, finally fixed the issue with the artist name >.<

Normal (2 stars)
Relaxing (3 stars)
Last edited by MeekRhino , edited 4 times in total.
Moway
1,143 posts
Joined January 2012
Moway
Hi.

[General]
  1. RomanizedArtist should be Touyama Nao.
  2. Artist should be 東山奈央. You can change all of these things while in editor, then switch to the other difficulty by File>Open Difficulty, then changing stuff for the other diff, then upload without exiting. This should work.
  3. The source should be やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている, and add Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru to the tags. Also for tags: ending, My, youthful, comedy, SNAFU.
  4. Try +29 for your offset, right now it seems too early.
  5. This could really use an Easy difficulty. Your Normal is 2.23 stars which is too high.
  6. Unsnapped inherited (green) sections at: 00:28:829 - snap to 00:28:835
[Normal]
  1. AR5 at most, this is a 118 bpm Normal difficulty. AR6 is not necessary. Also, HP4 and OD4.
  2. 00:02:649 (1) - Whistle on the head.
  3. 00:03:665 (2) - Whistle on the head.
  4. 00:05:445 (4) - This slider should end at 00:06:208 sounds better with the music.
  5. 00:10:657 (6) - You should remove this circle, triplets don't really fit a Normal difficulty.
  6. 00:16:123 (3) - whistle on the head sounds nice here.
  7. 00:17:648 (5,6) - add a bit of curve to (5) so that you can have a nice proper blanket.
    ---
  8. 00:22:733 (1,2) - Switch the NCs here to put the NC on the downbeat.
  9. 00:24:259 (4) - whistle on the head
  10. 00:24:767 (1) - remove this NC for consistency.
  11. 00:27:055 (1,2) - bring the end of (1) to the left a bit for a better blanket.
    ---
  12. 00:27:818 (2,3,4) - some spacing inconsistency here
  13. 00:28:326 (3,1,2) - I would recommend fixing this overlap, looks a bit sloppy.
  14. 00:29:598 (2,4) - Whistle on these sounds nice with the piano .
  15. 00:30:615 (1,2) - switch the NCs here to put the NC on the downbeat.
  16. 00:30:615 (1,3) - fix this stack.
  17. 00:33:920 (1) - remove this NC for consistency.
  18. 00:33:920 (1) - whistle on the repeat
  19. 00:34:682 (2) - whistle
  20. 00:36:971 (1) - remove this NC for consistency.
  21. 00:37:987 (3,4) - the rhythm here should have the slider first, then the circle. This matches the music better because the slider occurs when the piano occurs.
    ---
  22. 00:40:276 (3) - whistle on the head
  23. 00:41:038 (4) - try copy+paste and rotating 00:40:276 (3) here for a cleaner fit.
    ---
  24. 00:51:081 - three unnecessary green lines
  25. 00:51:462 - This SV change doesn't fit a Normal difficulty, and I would highly suggest remapping these parts without the SV change.
  26. 00:58:326 (5) - move the first midpoint more to the left to make a better S-shape.
    ---
  27. 01:01:377 (4) - fix this stack.
  28. 01:07:225 (1) - I would remove this NC, it doesn't really do much when this part is stacked like this, and looks kind of weird with all the colors happening here.
  29. 01:08:750 (3,5) - This doesn't work for a Normal difficulty. Obscuring a lot of the slider track of (5) is a no-no. I would rework this pattern
  30. 01:12:310 (4,1) - fix this stack.
  31. 01:13:581 (1) - remove NC for consistency.
  32. 01:18:920 (3) - I would rotate this slider some so that it has a more natural path from 01:18:411 (1,2)
  33. 01:18:411 (1) - remove NC for consistency
  34. 01:19:682 (4) - NC here
  35. 01:21:462 (1) - remove NC
  36. 01:24:513 (1) - Put a whistle on the spinner IMO
[Relaxing]
  1. I would strongly recommend changing the name of this difficulty. Relaxing can mean Easy, when this is the hardest difficulty in the set. I would rename just to Hard, it works fine.
  2. AR7 works well here. AR is much too fast for such a piano song like this.
  3. 00:02:649 (1) - Whistle on the head
  4. 00:03:665 (4) - whistle on the head
  5. 00:04:682 (7,9) - fix this overlap.
  6. 00:06:589 (1) - If you slow down the music, you will hear that this slider is not mapped to anything. I would suggest just making a circle at 00:06:716 instead.
  7. 00:10:276 (1) - Your NCing is pretty erratic in this diff, remove this one for starters, and I'll go through more.
  8. 00:12:818 (1,2,3,4) - set the ends of all of these sliders to 5%.
  9. 00:16:377 (1) - remove this NC
  10. 00:16:886 (3) - NC
  11. 00:25:050 (6,1) - switch these NCs
  12. 00:27:084 (4) - NC
  13. 00:27:818 (5,6) - This is an annoying kind of thing to play, I would shorten these to 1/2 sliders.
  14. 00:30:644 (1) - add a whistle on the sliderend
  15. 00:31:406 (2) - This antijump is pretty weird, I would recommend using more normal spacing here.
  16. 00:32:169 (4) - whistle on the head
  17. 00:34:174 (3) - whistle
  18. 00:34:682 (5) - whistle
  19. 00:37:254 (7) - NC
  20. 00:41:067 (5) - NC
  21. 00:43:326 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - way too much spacing here for this kind of song.
  22. Sorry to say, but I think the entire kiai needs to be remapped. The SV is way too high and the spacing is way too big for a song like this. I'm not going to point out every instance of this because it is basically the entire kiai. I would even go so far as to say that the base SV for this needs to be lower if you want to have a SV increase for the kiai. I very, very strongly recommend remapping the kiai. If you do so, keep a consistent combo structure of one combo per 4 beats.
  23. 01:24:513 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - Having the player play out the timing changes at the end is kind of frustrating, so I would suggest just using a spinner like you did in the Normal.
Overall, you have some good ideas and flow, but there's a lot that needs to be cleand up. There is also a lot to be remapped, but I think you can make it happen if you work at it. Map an Easy difficulty also. Good luck!
MeekRhino
28 posts
Joined April 2013
Topic Starter
MeekRhino
Moway's Mod:

Thanks very much for your mod! It seems really insightful. I'll update when I've had a chance to go through everything, but you deserve KD just for the General section :)

(normally I quote the mod in question, but I was having trouble with it. Plus it's the only mod so far, so I think that's clear :P)

EDIT:

Mod response

Moway wrote:

Hi.

[General]
Thanks, I changed all of these things (haven't yet mapped Easy, but I'll get to it). However, I still cannot upload after changing the artist name, since it still thinks it's a new map.
  1. RomanizedArtist should be Touyama Nao.
  2. Artist should be 東山奈央. You can change all of these things while in editor, then switch to the other difficulty by File>Open Difficulty, then changing stuff for the other diff, then upload without exiting. This should work.
  3. The source should be やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている, and add Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru to the tags. Also for tags: ending, My, youthful, comedy, SNAFU.
  4. Try +29 for your offset, right now it seems too early.
  5. This could really use an Easy difficulty. Your Normal is 2.23 stars which is too high.
  6. Unsnapped inherited (green) sections at: 00:28:829 - snap to 00:28:835
[Normal]
  1. AR5 at most, this is a 118 bpm Normal difficulty. AR6 is not necessary. Also, HP4 and OD4.✔
  2. 00:02:649 (1) - Whistle on the head.✔
  3. 00:03:665 (2) - Whistle on the head.✔
  4. 00:05:445 (4) - This slider should end at 00:06:208 sounds better with the music.✔
  5. 00:10:657 (6) - You should remove this circle, triplets don't really fit a Normal difficulty.✔
  6. 00:16:123 (3) - whistle on the head sounds nice here.✔
  7. 00:17:648 (5,6) - add a bit of curve to (5) so that you can have a nice proper blanket. ✔
  8. 00:22:733 (1,2) - Switch the NCs here to put the NC on the downbeat.✔
  9. 00:24:259 (4) - whistle on the head✔
  10. 00:24:767 (1) - remove this NC for consistency.✔
  11. 00:27:055 (1,2) - bring the end of (1) to the left a bit for a better blanket.I don't see a problem with the blanket here.
  12. 00:27:818 (2,3,4) - some spacing inconsistency here✔
  13. 00:28:326 (3,1,2) - I would recommend fixing this overlap, looks a bit sloppy.✔
  14. 00:29:598 (2,4) - Whistle on these sounds nice with the piano. ✔
  15. 00:30:615 (1,2) - switch the NCs here to put the NC on the downbeat.✔
  16. 00:30:615 (1,3) - fix this stack. Not sure what to do about this one. It's marginally better after other changes above, but still not perfect.
  17. 00:33:920 (1) - remove this NC for consistency.✔
  18. 00:33:920 (1) - whistle on the repeat✔ This sounds great
  19. 00:34:682 (2) - whistle✔
  20. 00:36:971 (1) - remove this NC for consistency.✔
  21. 00:37:987 (3,4) - the rhythm here should have the slider first, then the circle. This matches the music better because the slider occurs when the piano occurs. ✔
  22. 00:40:276 (3) - whistle on the head✔
  23. 00:41:038 (4) - try copy+paste and rotating 00:40:276 (3) here for a cleaner fit.✔
  24. 00:51:081 - three unnecessary green lines✔ That diff copy :P
  25. 00:51:462 - This SV change doesn't fit a Normal difficulty, and I would highly suggest remapping these parts without the SV change.I think it's okay. I'll keep considering this, but for now I'm going to keep it the way it is.
  26. 00:58:326 (5) - move the first midpoint more to the left to make a better S-shape.✔ Not sure exactly what you were looking for, but I make the S-shape much better.
  27. 01:01:377 (4) - fix this stack.✔
  28. 01:07:225 (1) - I would remove this NC, it doesn't really do much when this part is stacked like this, and looks kind of weird with all the colors happening here.✔
  29. 01:08:750 (3,5) - This doesn't work for a Normal difficulty. Obscuring a lot of the slider track of (5) is a no-no. I would rework this pattern ✔
  30. 01:12:310 (4,1) - fix this stack. ✔
  31. 01:13:581 (1) - remove NC for consistency.✔
  32. 01:18:920 (3) - I would rotate this slider some so that it has a more natural path from 01:18:411 (1,2) ✔
  33. 01:18:411 (1) - remove NC for consistency✔
  34. 01:19:682 (4) - NC here✔
  35. 01:21:462 (1) - remove NC✔
  36. 01:24:513 (1) - Put a whistle on the spinner IMO ✔


[Relaxing]
  1. I would strongly recommend changing the name of this difficulty. Relaxing can mean Easy, when this is the hardest difficulty in the set. I would rename just to Hard, it works fine.✔
  2. AR7 works well here. AR is much too fast for such a piano song like this.✔
  3. 00:02:649 (1) - Whistle on the head✔
  4. 00:03:665 (4) - whistle on the head✔
  5. 00:04:682 (7,9) - fix this overlap.✔
  6. 00:06:589 (1) - If you slow down the music, you will hear that this slider is not mapped to anything. I would suggest just making a circle at 00:06:716 instead. ✔
  7. 00:10:276 (1) - Your NCing is pretty erratic in this diff, remove this one for starters, and I'll go through more.✔
  8. 00:12:818 (1,2,3,4) - set the ends of all of these sliders to 5%.✔
  9. 00:16:377 (1) - remove this NC✔
  10. 00:16:886 (3) - NC✔
  11. 00:25:050 (6,1) - switch these NCs✔
  12. 00:27:084 (4) - NC✔
  13. 00:27:818 (5,6) - This is an annoying kind of thing to play, I would shorten these to 1/2 sliders.I'm undecided on this. I don't like the way it feels with 1/2 sliders.
  14. 00:30:644 (1) - add a whistle on the sliderend✔
  15. 00:31:406 (2) - This antijump is pretty weird, I would recommend using more normal spacing here.✔
  16. 00:32:169 (4) - whistle on the head✔
  17. 00:34:174 (3) - whistle✔
  18. 00:34:682 (5) - whistleI do not like that. The piano has a descending line, and there is no particular emphasis here. It sounds over hitsounded.
  19. 00:37:254 (7) - NC ✔
  20. 00:41:067 (5) - NC ✔
  21. 00:43:326 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - way too much spacing here for this kind of song.
  22. Sorry to say, but I think the entire kiai needs to be remapped. The SV is way too high and the spacing is way too big for a song like this. I'm not going to point out every instance of this because it is basically the entire kiai. I would even go so far as to say that the base SV for this needs to be lower if you want to have a SV increase for the kiai. I very, very strongly recommend remapping the kiai. If you do so, keep a consistent combo structure of one combo per 4 beats. I toned down the spacing noticeably, and I'm considering decreasing SV as well. I agree that it feels too fast.
  23. 01:24:513 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - Having the player play out the timing changes at the end is kind of frustrating, so I would suggest just using a spinner like you did in the Normal.✔
Overall, you have some good ideas and flow, but there's a lot that needs to be cleand up. There is also a lot to be remapped, but I think you can make it happen if you work at it. Map an Easy difficulty also. Good luck!
putra_stark45
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i hope it will be released soon
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