Hitoshi Sakimoto - GrimGrimoire Main Theme · forum

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-02-04T01:45:35+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, May 29, 2010 at 8:24:17 PM

Artist: Hitoshi Sakimoto
Title: GrimGrimoire Main Theme
Source: GrimGrimoire
Tags: grim grimoire vanillaware
BPM: 78
Filesize: 2963kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:

Easy (0.37 stars, 48 notes)
Hard (3.17 stars, 113 notes)
Normal (1.64 stars, 61 notes)

Download: Hitoshi Sakimoto - GrimGrimoire Main Theme
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Updated: awp timing+mod

Last edited by Dusty 2010-05-30T03:24:42+00:00, edited 36 times in total.

Torran

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Torran 2010-02-04T04:42:13+00:00

OSU! Timing Help!

1. BPM 78 , Offset 990

Starred~!

MoonFragrance

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MoonFragrance 2010-02-06T07:20:00+00:00

[Sweet!]
No star?! lol
Resnap all notes.

[Easy.]
00:00:989 (1,2,3) - i suggest to replace like this

00:44:066 (1) - make ends at white tick
00:45:348 (2) - starts at 00:45:220 and ends at next red tick

[Normal??]
00:00:990 (1,2,3) - same to Easy

[Hard???]
00:47:143 (8,9,10) - two grids down

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-02-06T19:21:28+00:00

All fixed except

MoonFragrance wrote:
[Hard???]
00:47:143 (8,9,10) - two grids down

because that breaks distance snap and I don't understand why it should be changed.

MoonFragrance

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MoonFragrance 2010-02-07T15:34:46+00:00

if my modding is helpful to you, don't forget the kudosu

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-02-07T16:52:06+00:00

MoonFragrance wrote:
if my modding is helpful to you, don't forget the kudosu

Oops, sorry; gave kudosu

Shulin

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Shulin 2010-02-08T00:04:52+00:00

General:

-- The OST has this as "GrimGrimoire Main Theme"

-- Any reason this is OGG instead of mp3 (I'm not sure if this matters but I thought I'd ask before someone else does ^^)

Sweet!:

01:15:413 -- Break? It's in the other difficulties.

Sweet!

Easy.:

-- Any reason for the full stop after Easy?

00:04:066 (3) - New combo?

Normal?:

00:04:066 (3) - New combo?
00:06:759 (5) - ^
00:16:374 (3) - ^

Hard???

00:05:605 (6) - New combo?
00:17:913 (6) - ^
00:45:220 (4) - Slightly ugly curve imo.
00:47:143 (8) - New combo?
01:10:220 (5) - ^

Well honestly I can't find anything meaningful to say, so sorry for the rather crappy mod, don't give me kudos. Anyway let me know about any changes and I'll proto bubble.

~ Star.

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-02-08T01:18:16+00:00

my replies

Shulin wrote:
General:

-- The OST has this as "GrimGrimoire Main Theme" Changed that
-- Any reason this is OGG instead of mp3 (I'm not sure if this matters but I thought I'd ask before someone else does ^^) I had the song as FLAC and tried converting it with Audacity, but didn't (know how to use)/have an .mp3 encoder

Sweet!:

01:15:413 -- Break? It's in the other difficulties. Added.

Sweet!

Easy.:

-- Any reason for the full stop after Easy? consistency with other diffs, but removing punctuation anyways

00:04:066 (3) - New combo? Comboized

Normal?:

00:04:066 (3) - New combo?
00:06:759 (5) - ^
00:16:374 (3) - ^
Didn't change, I think 4 combo is OK for a Normal

Hard???

00:05:605 (6) - New combo? Didn't add new combo
00:17:913 (6) - ^ Didn't add new combo
00:45:220 (4) - Slightly ugly curve imo. Should be better now
00:47:143 (8) - New combo? Added new combo
01:10:220 (5) - ^ This one seems better as one combo to me, but added a new combo somewhere around there

Well honestly I can't find anything meaningful to say, so sorry for the rather crappy mod, don't give me kudos. All right...

Thanks for modding!

Shulin

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Shulin 2010-02-08T01:20:58+00:00

Proto Bubbled

Agnes

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Agnes 2010-02-13T18:56:29+00:00

S'up. Saw this in the queue~

[Sweet!]

Oh my goodness, no stars. ...Also, no errors.

[Easy]

No errors.

[Normal]

No errors.

[Hard]

No errors.

Ugh, Dustyyyy. How can I get kudosu when I can't find any errors?

Star'd!

Kytoxid

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Kytoxid 2010-02-13T18:58:37+00:00

[General]

Silence the slider-slides? Sound out of place.
Add a bit of lead-in on all diffs.
White notes + kiai = pain.
Dunno if it's just me, but the custom clap sounds delayed.

[Sweet]

Man, this is so easy, I wonder if any beginner'll actually want to play this, or like playing it. Most likely Easy will be good enough.

[Easy]

Fine.

[Normal]

00:06:374 (4,5,6) - Turn the slider so that it's perpendicular to the row, so that you can put the 6 right beside the 5, properly spaced.
01:07:143 (1) - Might be a bit fast and unpredictable for this diff.

[Hard]

00:45:220 (4) - Is a bit ugly how it's curved.

Looks good, starred~

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-02-15T11:19:40+00:00

~~Can't upload at the moment, but thanks for modding~~

EDIT: Responses

Kytoxid wrote:
[General]

Silence the slider-slides? Sound out of place. Yes
Add a bit of lead-in on all diffs. Added 1 sec
White notes + kiai = pain. Removed white circles
Dunno if it's just me, but the custom clap sounds delayed. You're right, fixed

[Sweet]

Man, this is so easy, I wonder if any beginner'll actually want to play this, or like playing it. Most likely Easy will be good enough.

[Easy]

Fine.

[Normal]

00:06:374 (4,5,6) - Turn the slider so that it's perpendicular to the row, so that you can put the 6 right beside the 5, properly spaced. Fine
01:07:143 (1) - Might be a bit fast and unpredictable for this diff. changed to slider

[Hard]

00:45:220 (4) - Is a bit ugly how it's curved. Changed to something a little better

Looks good, starred~

0_o

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0_o 2010-03-03T05:38:30+00:00

Overall
-Custom combo colours would be much nicer. I'm thinking some pink, light blue...
-The offset seems a liiittle shaky to me, I recommend getting someone to check that out.

Sweet!
00:44:066 (1,2,1,2) - Since this is the EASIEST DIFFICULTY EVER I'm gonna discourage notes stacked under sliders here. The hitburst covers up the approach circle, which can be tough on the players at the level this difficulty is aimed at. Maybe rotate the blue combo 90 degrees counter clockwise and put 2 to the right of the slider, then make the red combo a mirror of this?
Also, I would cut back on the spinners in the last sections of the song. Spinners are one of the most difficult and tiring parts of osu! when you are first starting out, so spamming all those spinners won't be much fun for the newbies.

Easy
01:10:220 (2,3) - This is a little ugly, it's the only overlap in the map and it's a lot more complicated than the rest of the map.
Again not a fan of the circles stacked on the slider ends, they just look ugly imo. Maybe consider unstacking them?

Medium
01:20:220 (2,1) - 1 grid to the right

Hard
01:07:143 (1,1) - My only problem here is that although this is a hard difficulty, this STILL might be a little tricky compared to the rest of the map. It's not a huge deal, but again just something to consider.

Soo yeah I dunno if this is still pubbled or not but I'll do it after your response

EDIT: p-bubble

Lybydose

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Lybydose 2010-03-05T05:19:57+00:00

Offset seems fine to me.

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-03-05T05:25:04+00:00

Thanks for checking!

Nachy

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Nachy 2010-03-09T02:50:53+00:00

Cute~

Jeffro

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Jeffro 2010-03-09T02:51:43+00:00

I love storyboard and it plays fine. Starred!

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-03-09T02:53:51+00:00

Thanks for checking, guys.

abalee

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abalee 2010-03-09T05:36:28+00:00

wired star system...

Normal:
01:24:066 (1) - hitsound missed here?

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-03-09T05:59:21+00:00

Added a whistle there.

Thanks for modding!

(The star2's are for the SB

. I just named them that because they all look like potential star2.png's)

abalee

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abalee 2010-03-11T10:53:36+00:00

OK.

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-04-20T01:24:06+00:00

Sweet! deleted and timing fixed.

Download: Hitoshi Sakimoto - GrimGrimoire Main Theme (Dusty) [Sweet!].osu

Cyclone

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Cyclone 2010-04-30T05:39:22+00:00

Yeah um, this timing is pretty wrong.

With the way the song sounds it's pretty difficult for me to pinpoint the correct timing. I can say for certain that taking out the 2 extra red sections, then subtracting 40 from the offset would be a good 1st step.

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-04-30T05:51:43+00:00

Cyclone wrote:
With the way the song sounds it's pretty difficult for me to pinpoint the correct timing. I can say for certain that taking out the 2 extra red sections, then subtracting 40 from the offset would be a good 1st step.

Thanks so much for taking a look at this timing.

Garven

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Garven 2010-05-04T01:51:00+00:00

I just came here to point out the whistle slider slide sounds. :P (no kudosu please)

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-05-04T01:59:52+00:00

Garven wrote:
I just came here to point out the whistle slider slide sounds. (no kudosu please)

Mhm, updated.

Sakura

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Sakura 2010-05-07T16:28:53+00:00

[General]

[Easy]
Unsnapped notes everywhere, go to Timing > Resnap all notes

[Normal]
00:37:890 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The 1/2 notes in here dont feel anything on the song to hint me that they should be there (combo break adedhjdhehfea or acc down awdjda ;_;)

[Hard]
Looks fine

Nice map, and the unsnapped notes on Easy can be fixed easily anyways +Star

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-05-08T04:15:44+00:00

Sakura301 wrote:
[Easy]
Unsnapped notes everywhere, go to Timing > Resnap all notes

[Normal]
00:37:890 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The 1/2 notes in here dont feel anything on the song to hint me that they should be there (combo break adedhjdhehfea or acc down awdjda ;_;)

Oops, and fixed. Thanks for modding!

Sakura

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Sakura 2010-05-15T20:58:45+00:00

If the bubble was popped, shouldnt this be marked with a star? o.o

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-05-15T21:01:36+00:00

hm, someone deleted Larto's timing post (probably because the timing was wrong)

The missing star icon might have something to do with Larto's post disappearing?

Sakura

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Sakura 2010-05-15T21:04:27+00:00

Still popped bubble should be a star o.o

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Here since the beginning

awp 2010-05-26T01:58:36+00:00

timing sounded/played okay at

1. Offset: 985ms BPM: 78.00

The deathstream melody on Hard sounds off, however. As a hotfix, try:

1. Offset: 985ms BPM: 78.00
2. Offset: 50,200ms BPM: 78.00
4. Offset: 62,522ms BPM: 78.00

maybe that'll work better. Note that the offset at 62522 is milliseconds away from the kiai inherited timing point, so just convert that inherited into a standard and tweak the offset. Give it a listen, but you might wanna stick with one timing section. Not sure. I think the 3 sound better. It's only like a 12ms offset anyhow.

Normal had a bit of ugly spacing at 01:08:292 (1,2,3,4,5,6) though. Jiggle it a bit, make it feel fluid without that unsightly overlap.

On Hard, I would cut the stream here 00:53:292 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) in half, and do something interesting with the time gained. I like the sound of it, but the constant stream is just not very interesting, and doesn't really blend with the fluid-ness of the music. I mean yeah, you've got that one instrument in the background spamming quarter notes, so I can understand why you've got it the way it is, but the song feels more gentle to me than streams.

I'm starring this anyway, simply for the direction I'm feeling from it. The sounds, the subtle raining of runic glyphs, it just rubs me the right way. Gives me the impression you actually care about the subject matter, and what you're doing with it. And I like that.

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Sakura 2010-05-26T02:07:29+00:00

Thanks awp ^^ i bet Dusty will be happy
Throwing a pink star to boost this SP more

Dusty

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Dusty 2010-05-26T02:40:15+00:00

awp wrote:
timing sounded/played okay at

1. Offset: 985ms BPM: 78.00

The deathstream melody on Hard sounds off, however. As a hotfix, try:

1. Offset: 985ms BPM: 78.00
2. Offset: 50,200ms BPM: 78.00
4. Offset: 62,522ms BPM: 78.00

maybe that'll work better. Note that the offset at 62522 is milliseconds away from the kiai inherited timing point, so just convert that inherited into a standard and tweak the offset. Give it a listen, but you might wanna stick with one timing section. Not sure. I think the 3 sound better. It's only like a 12ms offset anyhow.

Normal had a bit of ugly spacing at 01:08:292 (1,2,3,4,5,6) though. Jiggle it a bit, make it feel fluid without that unsightly overlap.

On Hard, I would cut the stream here 00:53:292 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) in half, and do something interesting with the time gained. I like the sound of it, but the constant stream is just not very interesting, and doesn't really blend with the fluid-ness of the music. I mean yeah, you've got that one instrument in the background spamming quarter notes, so I can understand why you've got it the way it is, but the song feels more gentle to me than streams.

I'm starring this anyway, simply for the direction I'm feeling from it. The sounds, the subtle raining of runic glyphs, it just rubs me the right way. Gives me the impression you actually care about the subject matter, and what you're doing with it. And I like that.