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Any tips for passing the big black

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byfar
I can read everything, my right hand can follow easily its just that my left hand, their clicks are too off resulting in a bunch of misses. When and where should i single tap or double click.
Topic Starter
byfar
I can get like a B on relax mode, but while nofailing it my left hand clicks are bad on the big jumps
Noobsicle
don't even bother

you say you can "read everything" but you still get B on relax? =_=
nrl
Tip? Try again in twenty thousand plays. You're seriously nowhere close to being ready for it.

Seriously, stop playing maps that are unquestionably out of your league. You should be playing hards.
GoldenWolf

byfar wrote:

I can read everything
Stop lying to yourself. You can't read it for shit.

byfar wrote:

my right hand can follow easily its just that my left hand, their clicks are too off resulting in a bunch of misses.
Stop finding excuses. It's not your "right and left" hands that are at fault but only you. You're the one controlling them and only you can be blamed for not doing good enough.

byfar wrote:

When and where should i single tap or double click.
Whenever you want. It doesn't even matter.

byfar wrote:

I can get like a B on relax mode, but while nofailing it my left hand clicks are bad on the big jumps
B with relax is pretty bad. And again stop accusing your left/right hand. You're so far from even understanding the map it's not even worth your time trying to beat it.
 
 
 
Overall with this mindest you're not going to go anywhere in this game. Stop finding excuses and start playing maps of your level to improve.
Yakuyan
It's because you are playing with a mouse :roll:

1. Get better at every aspect of the game.
2. Be able to play insanes so well that you can do them without trying that hard.
3. After all this, you probably still won't be able to pass the song...
Bauxe
Wow you can't even beat big black at 1000 plays I was fullcombing it with double time at that point wow your bad noob you should quit.
Granger

Bauxe wrote:

Wow you can't even beat big black at 1000 plays I was fullcombing it with double time at that point wow your bad noob you should quit.
Full mod SS at 400 plays or go home, pleb.
Upskirt

TheBurningFlame wrote:

It's because you are playing with a mouse :roll:

1. Get better at every aspect of the game.
2. Be able to play insanes so well that you can do them without trying that hard.
3. After all this, you probably still won't be able to pass the song...
It's not because he's using a mouse, it's because he's new to the game.

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You shouldn't be playing big black if you've been playing for only a month.
Yakuyan

Venzire wrote:

TheBurningFlame wrote:

It's because you are playing with a mouse :roll:

1. Get better at every aspect of the game.
2. Be able to play insanes so well that you can do them without trying that hard.
3. After all this, you probably still won't be able to pass the song...
It's not because he's using a mouse, it's because he's new to the game.
I don't know if you didn't understand the sarcasm or what xD. I even put :roll:
I play with a mouse so why would I even say that in the first place?
I Give Up
Play for at least 2 years before attempting BB.
deletemyaccount
get ready for some deep philosophy

osu! is like constructing a skyscraper; you can't build the top without the scaffolding
B1rd
you need a tablet.
GoldenWolf

B1rd wrote:

you need a tablet.
for insta 360bpm streaming so you can do bieg bleck
Upskirt

TheBurningFlame wrote:

TheBurningFlame wrote:

I don't know if you didn't understand the sarcasm or what xD. I even put :roll:
I play with a mouse so why would I even say that in the first place?
Oh the confusion D':
FlyingKebab
Aren't Big Black streams 180BPM? Even when i try the map for yolo sometimes i sometimes get the whole stream chain with 300's. Technically if you REALLY wanted to complete a map like that REALLY you could memorize every part and then you would win. Practically even if you did the above you wouldn't be fast enough to click some parts without breaking the combo (maybe you could survive). But this much effort to play ONE map would be pretty stupid tbh.
x_Co0ki420ezi_x
I'll never fully understand why random xx xxx< rank people pick airman/bigblack/X 250 bpm ar10 unranked shit when I join their multi lobbies.

Is there some site where you new people go and it tells you to play 250bpm unranked shit maps or big black? Do you think it makes you less shit if you play maps 2hard4u on NF and get D/C on them?
D e s
bcause they having fun spam circles
x_Co0ki420ezi_x
So in other words, they're retards?
piruchan
Here's what I did with airman :

1. Put NF HT (I can't hit a thing without HT)
2. Pass the map (Of course, I used NF)
3. Watch rrtyui's replay (because he was #1 back then)
4. See him beat my score before the intro even finished (??????)
5. Cry in a corner.

You can do that with big black, scarlet rose, (put any super crazy maps here) and replace rrtyui with whoever has the #1 spot on the map.

I suck at this game, but maybe because I was playing normal diffs when I was at your level
Mystrian_old
You need BIG pp to ply BIG BLACK.
cheezstik
You already have a 52 and a 47pp song at rank 133k, while most people dont get 40+pp songs until they are <99k. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but your rank is so much lower than what it should be considering your highest pp song is 52pp. This is because you clearly only try to play songs that are way too hard for you (big black), and dont have many 25-35pp songs, making your rank lower than it should be. While this can be good for some lucky high pp songs for your rank, you won't be improving much, and will probably just learn to spam circles, and your reading / sense of rhythm will be terrible.

You don't have to play normally like everyone else if you don't want to, as osu is like most other games (for fun), but it will definitely be better for you in the long run. You can still definitely get to the top with that playstyle (I remember seeing a thread where a rank 2k said he couldn't play any maps that weren't insane AR9+ because he started playing only insanes with NF from day one). Also keep in mind not many people can actually pass big black without NF / HT, there probably isn't anyone that is >10k rank that can legitimately pass big black, so you still have a long way to go before you need to worry about that map.

If I were you, I would play hards and go for FC's, that will improve consistency over time and give you a normal learning curve, as well as making your rank look nicer faster. I played normally and focused on rhythm / streaming (keyboard hand) more than jumps, and now while I have an average tablet hand for my rank, i definitely think my keyboard hand is pretty ahead for my rank (I managed to pass Mythologias End at around rank 27k, which I think is impressive at least).
jesse1412
Never use relax mod, it has nothing to do with your aim and it ignores note locking.
blourgh

jesus1412 wrote:

Never use relax mod, it has nothing to do with your aim and it ignores note locking.
you just don't GET it, he got a B
Topic Starter
byfar
Ty cheezstik.

As for anyone else, ty for your very 'constructive' criticism
Bauxe

byfar wrote:

Ty cheezstik.

As for anyone else, ty for your very 'constructive' criticism
You expect people to take this seriously? Really? REALLY?
Granger
Passing it?
Add no fail.

Else forget it untill you've gotten good.
I Give Up

KukiMonster wrote:

Play for at least 2 years before attempting BB.

byfar wrote:

Ty cheezstik.

As for anyone else, ty for your very 'constructive' criticism
I was being serious, play for at least 2 years is the best advice anyone can give you. You should focus on short term goals rather than having a single big goal like this. Because it can take 2 years for player to reach +4k pp, and at that range passing the big black with A is a possibility.

Playing NF/relax big black at an early stage is great for warm-ups but it absolutely does not improve skill. To attest to this, I tried it over 100 times and yielded no result.

Instead, practice on the hardest map you can pass without mods, then grind pp on maps that you can FC at your current skill.
Makan1
at your state it is not possible for you to pass big black. give it up and come back in 1.5~ years when you might have a chance. like seriously, there is no chance. want to see why? put on NF only and see your score then.

I can give you one tip to help you improve the game, but its a secret tip

the key to passing big black is....

BY PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME
Top Bunk
You are by far not ready for it. pun fully intended

I have three tips for you.
1) Play more.
2) Rinse and repeat #1.
3) Try again in a few years. Or grind woobowiz style and possibly make it in a year or two.
Topic Starter
byfar
ajajajajaj

ok im retarded sorry for this topic

#thedream

back to praktising
Pettanko
you're not retarded you were just misguided by the relax mod

seriously don't use that mod to gauge your skill level
Vuelo Eluko
i can 99% jumppudding with relax
but it gets embarrassing when i play it normally

relax is seriously useless, can be fun though when the maps are just so far beyond being possible it's not even funny ala https://osu.ppy.sh/s/196262

the main part of osu's difficulty is controlling your aiming and tapping at the same time, it takes a lot of 'brain power' to do both at once. it's further made harder by the hands tendency to do the same thing as the other, which is why it can be mildly challenging to rub your belly while patting your head for example. Except instead of rough motions like that, it's much more intricate and precise ones that the hands are expecting to perform completely independent of eachother. It goes from mildly challenging to incredibly difficult at that point, and is why it takes so, SO, SO much practice to get good.

tl;dr just because you can pass something like freedom dive with relax and autopilot, does not mean you can necessarily do it normally even though it may seem like it should mean that.
Senpoii
Try again next year.
FlyingKebab

Ilfri wrote:

Try again next year.
Lol'd.
ZenithPhantasm
*Finds useless advice*
Aria Kanzaki
Don't even bother; after playing over a year, I still fail in the first 10 seconds.
Topic Starter
byfar

ZenithPhantasm wrote:

*Finds useless advice*
wow u realize this was when i first started playing 2 months ago why u necro :/

no kapacinouu plsu omg y ;(
[-Cloud-]
Spam both keys until you're through the map.
Blanky
I know you regret making this post and understand how stupid it is, and by no means do I intend to offend you. But this is the first post to literally make me cringe.
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