Sushi Killer - Zora [Osu|Taiko] · forum

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2014-08-21T16:41:07+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年8月28日 at 下午 11:12:53

Artist: Sushi Killer
Title: Zora
Tags: dnb mashup cool tight arronchu1207 Raiden Kyubey 寿司キラーゾーラすし
BPM: 177
Filesize: 9098kb
Play Time: 03:16
Difficulties Available:

Chu's Advanced (2.16 stars, 303 notes)
Hard (3.3 stars, 462 notes)
It's my pleasure to meet you. (5.03 stars, 637 notes)
Kyubey's Insane (4.04 stars, 609 notes)
Normal (1.7 stars, 235 notes)
Raiden's Muzukashii (2.7 stars, 642 notes)
Raiden's Oni (3.92 stars, 934 notes)

Download: Sushi Killer - Zora
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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We have traveled all the way through our city, and you're the only one I want to stay with.
Your hands are exalted, telling me we're going to end our journey.

"Where should we go," you said with a big smile, "...for our last stop?"

I hold your hand tightly. When I'm with you, there's no place I'd rather be.

"Zora."

This story is started by you, and it will never end...
For my dear.

Guest Difficulties

arronchu1207, Kyubey

Raiden

Song list of this mashup

Anamanaguchi - Another Winter
Anamanaguchi - Bosozoku GF
Anamanaguchi - Prom Night
Anamanaguchi - Sting Operation
Anamanaguchi - Densmore

Bitshifter - Hexadecimal Genome
Bitshifter - Magmadiver
Bruno Mars - Treasure (Mecha8bit Remix)

Chibi-Tech - Love is Insecurable (DJ Bouche's Secured Infatuation Mix)
Chibi-Tech - Moe Moe Kyunstep Part 1
Chibi-Tech - Pharamone OVERDOSAGE

Infinity Shred (Starscream) - Galeforce

Jusmi - Reborn

Kairo Kingdom - Don't Shake (Pegboard Nerds Remix)

Lindsay Lowend - Basement Dweller Overture

Maxo - CHALKTOPIA ~CHIPMIX~
Mizuki - Holy Bleep

NNNNNNNNNN - lesfluersdumal

Parkinson White - Sub Zero
Petebro (Peter Berkman) - Time Moves On / OK128

Sabrepulse ft. Knife City - First Crush
Shirobon - I Need You
Shirobon ft. Radix - Cyber Party
Shirobon - I Need You
Sushi Killer - Faito (unreleased)

Trey Frey - Dreaming

Unicorn Kid - Dream Catcher

Virtual Riot - Full Clip

YMCK - Tetrominon

Hey, my best friend
I hope you can see this
I'm really sad after that, because I know you'll never come back
I'll never hear your voice again
but I know, you love music, absolutely.
You called me Nerova, it's a name you gave me. I still love this name.
Your name's first letter is A, so I always write A in capital in my name when I'm mapping.
You don't have an osu! account, so I lend you mine
My skills are much stronger than you, but you don't mind
you always feel happy, especially when you're playing music games with me.
We both love Sushi Killer, when we heard this song he made.
It's a nice song, and it's always your favourite.
We mapped the song together, just you and me.
now you left the map for me, and also, your last dream
I know there's one thing I can do for you
I promise, I'll rank it, to complete that big dream you had before
And make the whole world know that we can make good maps together
In my heart, you're always the best mapper......
I'm sorry, we can't be the best friend forever,
but there's something you have to know
I'll remember the first date we met, the first time we talk
I'll remember the songs we have heard together
I still miss you. I love you, my friend.

Last edited by Nerova Riuz GX 2016-08-29T09:21:49+00:00, edited 147 times in total.

arronchu1207

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arronchu1207 2015-01-29T17:33:15+00:00

OuO

Pituophis

859 posts

Joined January 2015

Pituophis 2015-02-06T22:28:22+00:00

SUSHI KILLER

This needs to be completed! I hope there will at least be a normal since I am still a nub.

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-02-07T15:19:45+00:00

Pituophis wrote:
SUSHI KILLER
This needs to be completed! I hope there will at least be a normal since I am still a nub.

Yeah I will finish it
normal diff is still in progress
but i'm not good at mapping so it may takes a long time to rank
thank you

MiniBomb

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MiniBomb 2015-02-21T02:47:05+00:00

Respone "MiniBomb's Modding Queue"
Hi there , I've completed your beatmap request
here's the result

General

I recommend add more hitsounds than just drum
Fix as much compose warnings as you can
Reduce the amount of kiai time in all diff

Hard

Re-snap 00:42:869 (2) , 00:43:886 (4)

Chu's Insane

Replace the circles (from 01:27:277 (3) and 02:54:056 (3) ) to slider
02:00:666 (1) - Increase the gap between the circles

VisioN

Reduce the gap between objects

That's basicly all... for now!

..
P/S : Good song choice

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-02-21T11:55:09+00:00

Sorry but I don't have enough time to reply those mods with full concentration
Because a big exam is coming, and it is very important for me
But I will reply as fast as I can

Edit: Oh I have about 3 hours free time now YAY

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-02-22T07:29:24+00:00

UPDATED!
I need to say it first that my English is not good at all
So I can't explain what I'm thinking completely

MiniBomb wrote:
General
I recommend add more hitsounds than just drum
Fix as much compose warnings as you can
Reduce the amount of kiai time in all diff
In hitsounds, I use custom hitsounds in my diffs, but Chu didn't
and about kiai time......i'll try to reduce them in my future updates
Hard
Re-snap 00:42:869 (2) , 00:43:886 (4)
fixed!
VisioN
Reduce the gap between objects
I understand those "gaps" become a problem in your opinion
but I want them to be a feature of this diff
so I just change some of the parts and wait for further mod
That's basicly all... for now!
..
P/S : Good song choice
Thanks, and don't forget to follow Sushi Killer!

Ciyus Miapah

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Ciyus Miapah 2015-02-23T08:39:54+00:00

hi from MQ

Vision:
looks your combo didnt consistant with big beats, at overall you need to keep some combo in downbeat especially in kiai time (and this thing needs some fix patterning)
00:25:412 - in this timeline its clearly has strong beats there (same like 00:25:751 - )
01:06:090 (6,7) - looks this jump too sudden and have hard flow, consider reduce this circle 01:06:090 (6) - distance
01:07:616 (5) - make this 1/2 circle pattern, then NC 01:07:785 - ?
01:09:141 (7) - need to NC here (need consistency for your first pattern no matter what was next)
01:13:887 (6,7,8,9) - honestly for what this sliders appear? consider use 1/4 or use circle only for this (but you too much use this so whatever lol)
01:18:124 (4) - this slider have 1/4 pattern sound, why you mapped 1/8 slider?
01:32:870 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - this circle jump pattern looks too sudden because that one has overlap thing (i didnt see this pattern in your previous pattern, but idk)
01:40:836 (3,4) - y no triplet? and that jump looks too forced
01:43:039 (2,3) - ._. ( need clickable thing in 01:43:209 - , 01:43:378 - and 01:43:463 -. Consider change your pattern it looks weird)
02:31:853 (5) - you must NC this (pattern difference is very spotted here)
02:46:260 (1,2,3) - this pattern so hard, consider make that thing clearly visible
02:48:124 (1,2,3) - again? (02:48:802 - hear this sound, it's totally strong upbeat you skipped :<, so you should move 02:48:887 (4) - to 02:48:802 - )
02:59:650 (4,5,6,7) - 1/4 pattern is stronger than 1/3 pattern here
03:00:327 (8) - need NC here instead of 03:00:836 (1) -
03:01:005 (2,3) - y no triplet?

at major problems, im not sure about this map (especially at solid patterning in every beats)
you need to talk to BN or whatever to check your map, idk but its my suggestion. and looks like the 1/8 pattern is hard to read, im sure of that

good luck for your map!

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-02-23T15:32:16+00:00

UPDATED!

Fort wrote:
hi from MQ
Thanks for accepting my map

Vision:
looks your combo didnt consistant with big beats, at overall you need to keep some combo in downbeat especially in kiai time (and this thing needs some fix patterning)
00:25:412 - in this timeline its clearly has strong beats there (same like 00:25:751 - )
I fixed 00:25:412 , but I don't want to add anything on 00:25:751 because I think that's unnecessary in that part to make it become soft and relax

01:06:090 (6,7) - looks this jump too sudden and have hard flow, consider reduce this circle 01:06:090 (6) - distance
fixed

01:07:616 (5) - make this 1/2 circle pattern, then NC 01:07:785 - ?
fixed

01:09:141 (7) - need to NC here (need consistency for your first pattern no matter what was next)
fixed

01:13:887 (6,7,8,9) - honestly for what this sliders appear? consider use 1/4 or use circle only for this (but you too much use this so whatever lol)
fixed. i just want to stress those "special sounds" (whining?) at the beginning lol

01:18:124 (4) - this slider have 1/4 pattern sound, why you mapped 1/8 slider?
change it to 1/4. i mapped 1/8 because the previous note was 1/8

01:32:870 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - this circle jump pattern looks too sudden because that one has overlap thing (i didnt see this pattern in your previous pattern, but idk)
fixed. that's my fault lol

01:40:836 (3,4) - y no triplet? and that jump looks too forced
yeah triplet is a better choice. thanks

01:43:039 (2,3) - ._. ( need clickable thing in 01:43:209 - , 01:43:378 - and 01:43:463 -. Consider change your pattern it looks weird)
fixed......? maybe this pattern will be better......i hope so

02:31:853 (5) - you must NC this (pattern difference is very spotted here)
I have no idea with this part...... is it better to replace them with some double notes?

02:46:260 (1,2,3) - this pattern so hard, consider make that thing clearly visible
This is intentional, and I'll keep it as possible as I can

02:48:124 (1,2,3) - again? (02:48:802 - hear this sound, it's totally strong upbeat you skipped :<, so you should move 02:48:887 (4) - to 02:48:802 - )
the same as 01:43:039

02:59:650 (4,5,6,7) - 1/4 pattern is stronger than 1/3 pattern here
i change it into two triplets. fixed?

03:00:327 (8) - need NC here instead of 03:00:836 (1) -
because of the previous change, I only replace 03:00:836 (1)

03:01:005 (2,3) - y no triplet?
triplet is better, thx

at major problems, im not sure about this map (especially at solid patterning in every beats)
you need to talk to BN or whatever to check your map, idk but its my suggestion. and looks like the 1/8 pattern is hard to read, im sure of that
i'll do as possible as i can

good luck for your map!
thanks.

Anxient

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Anxient 2015-02-25T12:32:16+00:00

hi! from my modding queue~
Hard

attack on newcombo

00:02:361 (3) - this part doesn't have a beat. Maybe it does, but for hard just follow noticeable beats. move 00:02:616 -
00:05:073 (9) - move to 00:05:327 -
00:13:463 - add HC?
00:36:599 - missing HC?
00:42:022 - ^
00:50:158 (8,8) - place a NC on these notes.
01:14:395 (1) - continue combo
01:14:565 (2) - NC
01:22:022 (1) - continue combo
01:22:700 (3) - NC
02:15:074 (2) - try to shift this a bit more to the left. I recommend x=456 y=144
02:25:073 - missing HC
02:43:718 (1) - continue combo
02:41:175 (1) - ^
02:41:345 (2) - NC
02:44:057 (3) - NC
02:48:802 (1) - continue combo
02:49:480 (3) - NC
02:52:023 (1) - continue combo
02:52:192 (2) - NC
03:03:039 (7) - NC
03:03:887 (1) - continue combo
03:04:395 (3) - NC

Chu's Insane
01:23:887 (2) - ctrl+g
01:33:548 (1) - pull a bit lower. my suggestion would be x=284 y=248
01:41:005 (3) - move to 01:40:921 - extend slider 01:41:175 -
02:49:141 (1) - why NC?
02:49:480 (3) - NC
03:00:327 (2) - is this supposed to be a blanket? move to x=396 y=272
03:14:565 (1) - why nc?

Vision
00:07:107 (1) - try to keep it all inside the grid
00:08:011 (2,3) - ctrl g?
00:25:751 - missing HC?
00:36:599 - add HC
00:36:768 (1) - no beat lands here. delete
00:39:311 - add HC
00:47:277 (4) - erase repeat slider add HC here 00:47:616 -
00:52:700 (3) - change to HC-Slider
01:15:921 (1) - the red tick sliderpoint could be adjusted so that it doesn't curve too much. looks ugly
01:33:208 (7) - NC
01:33:548 (11) - NC
01:49:819 (9) - NC for endpoint

02:08:972 (3) - NC
02:09:480 (5) - NC
02:19:650 (6) - NC
02:19:989 (1) - continue
02:22:361 (7) - NC
02:22:531 (8) - continue

Welp that's it for me! good luck~

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-02-25T14:13:33+00:00

UPDATED!

Anxient wrote:
hi! from my modding queue~
Thanks for your mod!

Hard
attack on newcombo
00:02:361 (3) - this part doesn't have a beat. Maybe it does, but for hard just follow noticeable beats. move 00:02:616 -
thank you for your notice
but it's actually on 1/3 so it should be put on 00:02:587

00:05:073 (9) - move to 00:05:327 -
^

00:13:463 - add HC?
fixed on 00:13:435

00:36:599 - missing HC?
00:42:022 - ^
Nope. i think the sound here is not strong enough to put a circle

00:50:158 (8,8) - place a NC on these notes.
good! fixed.

01:14:395 (1) - continue combo
01:14:565 (2) - NC
Yeah I change their combo
but I add NC on 01:12:531 because I hate two numbers (for example, 10) appear in the same circle

01:22:022 (1) - continue combo
01:22:700 (3) - NC
^
I do that again on 01:21:344

02:15:074 (2) - try to shift this a bit more to the left. I recommend x=456 y=144
I prefer x=464 y=144

02:25:073 - missing HC
I change 02:24:904 into a slider

02:43:718 (1) - continue combo
02:41:175 (1) - ^
02:41:345 (2) - NC
02:44:057 (3) - NC
fixed

02:48:802 (1) - continue combo
02:49:480 (3) - NC
fixed, but I add NC on 02:48:124

02:52:023 (1) - continue combo
02:52:192 (2) - NC
fixed

03:03:039 (7) - NC
03:03:887 (1) - continue combo
03:04:395 (3) - NC
fixed.

Vision
00:07:107 (1) - try to keep it all inside the grid
fixed

00:08:011 (2,3) - ctrl g?
I change them into another way

00:25:751 - missing HC?
I won't add anything here

00:36:599 - add HC
^

00:36:768 (1) - no beat lands here. delete
fixed

00:39:311 - add HC
i will not add more points before 00:44:734 ,(except pattern change)

00:47:277 (4) - erase repeat slider add HC here 00:47:616 -
fixed

00:52:700 (3) - change to HC-Slider
good idea, thanks

01:15:921 (1) - the red tick sliderpoint could be adjusted so that it doesn't curve too much. looks ugly
Oh, that's my fault
I miss that slider when I'm checking my map, thanks

01:33:208 (7) - NC
01:33:548 (11) - NC
01:49:819 (9) - NC for endpoint
02:08:972 (3) - NC
02:09:480 (5) - NC
02:19:650 (6) - NC
02:19:989 (1) - continue
02:22:361 (7) - NC
02:22:531 (8) - continue
I fix all of those NC problem

Welp that's it for me! good luck~
Thanks for combo mods
They're really useful to me

Loughje

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Loughje 2015-02-25T21:26:11+00:00

General

Do different combo colors.
Maybe some more tags that are relevant?
There is the video that you could use if you felt like it.
Definitely a pretty well made map, couldn't find much to change about it.

Chu's Normal

01:10:158 (1) - Seems a bit far from the next slider.
01:42:192 (2,3) - Have the slider end where 3 starts.

Hard

00:07:785 (7) - Delete this.
00:31:853 (1,3,5) - Delete these.
01:15:751 (5) - Id move this out from under the slider.
02:12:531 (3) - ^
02:34:310 (5) - Delete this to match the song better.

VisioN

00:16:486 (3) - Delete this circle.
00:22:361 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Even these out.
00:32:870 (6,7) - Delete these.
01:29:650 (7) - Could add a stream here.
02:08:463 (1,1,1) - Delete these and not don't make them different combos.

Chu's Insane

00:02:616 - Put a circle here.
01:40:158 (4,5,6) - Why are these here?
01:43:209 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Sounds a little off beat.
Definitely put circles at the beginning to match the song like 'Hard' does.

Hopefully this is a little helpful!

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-02-26T13:01:19+00:00

UPDATED!
I think I need Google translation service to read some of the parts instead of using a dictionary
that will be faster

jloughman14 wrote:
General
Do different combo colors.
OK

Maybe some more tags that are relevant?
IDK. This problem bothers me for a long time, and I still cannot find a good way to solve it.
There's a song list of this mashup, but there will be too much tags if I add them all. Any idea?

There is the video that you could use if you felt like it.
Nope, it's too fancy, and it is not important too.
This is not a TV size song, so i don't have to add an unimportant video and waste your harddisk space.

Definitely a pretty well made map, couldn't find much to change about it.
Thanks, i'll do my best

Hard
00:07:785 (7) - Delete this.
fixed.

00:31:853 (1,3,5) - Delete these.
I know why you want me to delete this, but I want to keep them......
so I solve this into another way, just like what I did in 00:26:090 (1,2,3,4) - , 00:36:938 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:42:361 (1,2,3,4) -

01:15:751 (5) - Id move this out from under the slider.
I move it to the head of 01:15:921 (6) -

02:12:531 (3) - ^
fixed

02:34:310 (5) - Delete this to match the song better.
fixed. nice suggestion

VisioN
00:16:486 (3) - Delete this circle.
nope because I like how it plays /runs, some doubles.

00:22:361 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Even these out.
Now it's close enough to what you said

00:32:870 (6,7) - Delete these.
Seriously, I won't do that
This is a continuous pattern, I will not delete them to keep their consistency

01:29:650 (7) - Could add a stream here.
i won't change the whole slider into a stream, because that's unnecessary
but I add a triple there. it's a really nice suggestion.

02:08:463 (1,1,1) - Delete these and not don't make them different combos.
Same situation, I won't delete this
but I make them in the same combo

Hopefully this is a little helpful!
yeah they are really helpful
Specifically the stream in VisioN, and those correction in Hard
Thanks

Loughje

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Loughje 2015-02-26T21:46:45+00:00

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:
IDK. This problem bothers me for a long time, and I still cannot find a good way to solve it.
There's a song list of this mashup, but there will be too much tags if I add them all. Any idea?

Perhaps only use a few of those tags, not a huge amount but at least 7-8 tag's could help.

arronchu1207

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Joined December 2012

arronchu1207 2015-02-26T23:09:10+00:00

MiniBomb

Replace the circles (from 01:27:277 (3) and 02:54:056 (3) ) to slider
02:00:666 (1) - Increase the gap between the circles

Fixed all

Anxient

01:23:887 (2) - ctrl+g
01:33:548 (1) - pull a bit lower. my suggestion would be x=284 y=248
01:41:005 (3) - move to 01:40:921 - extend slider 01:41:175 -
02:49:141 (1) - why NC?
02:49:480 (3) - NC
03:00:327 (2) - is this supposed to be a blanket? move to x=396 y=272
03:14:565 (1) - why nc?

Fixed all

jloughman14

N
01:10:158 (1) - Seems a bit far from the next slider.
01:42:192 (2,3) - Have the slider end where 3 starts.
Fixed all

I
00:02:616 - Put a circle here. no
01:40:158 (4,5,6) - Why are these here?
01:43:209 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Sounds a little off beat.
Definitely put circles at the beginning to match the song like 'Hard' does.
I want to make the beginning easier ,cuz it's not intense

Other, fixed

Thank you all !

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-02-27T05:40:46+00:00

UPDATED!

Chu's diffs are already uploaded.
change a little bit of offset and combo colour.

~~But I still not knowing how to deal with the tags problem OMG~~

OKAY I add some new tags depend on the soundcloud
HERE'S THE LINK

mrturtle99

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mrturtle99 2015-02-28T02:51:20+00:00

Hi from my modding queue~

Chu's Normal

00:21:761 (1,1) - seeing as this is the lowest difficulty in the mapset, I would hesitate to include a slider immediately 1 beat after a spinner, so maybe extend the spinner 1 beat and make the slider just the 2nd and 3rd points, or come up with another pattern
00:30:829 (5,6) - I would try to avoid stacking HC's under sliders in easy/normal, as the slider kind of hides the HC, so consider changing up the pattern a little bit
00:42:863 (6,1) - ^
00:55:575 (2,3,4) - I think this blanket looks better if you lower 00:56:253 (3) - by one grid mark (y:248)
01:05:066 (1,1) - same thing as I mentioned first, slider immediately 1 beat after a spinner
01:49:812 (3) - not sure about using 3 HS on 1 HC, consider using just one HS per note
02:19:643 (8,1) - I think this blanket looks better if you move 02:19:982 (1) - over 1 grid unit (x:240)
02:31:846 (1,1) - more slider after spinner
03:11:507 (5) - if you move to 03:11:676 - it sounds more in line with the vocal-ish stuff in the music, if that is the rhythm that the HC's are following

Hard

00:40:490 (4,5) - might want to move 00:40:998 (5) - to x:196 so it is directly over the curve in the slider for a better looking blanket
01:09:134 (2,3) - with this blanket try moving 01:09:304 (3) - over 2 grid units (x:48) as I feel the blanket looks better this way
01:15:236 (3,4) - not sure if this is supposed to be a blanket, but if it is, please fix it (I like x:396 y:120)
01:15:914 (6,7) - try moving 01:16:422 (7) - to x:160 y:196 so it is in the middle of the slider curve
02:35:914 (2,3) - if you are trying to blanket this, move 02:36:084 (3) - to x:464 so the HC is in the middle of the slider curve
02:42:185 (4) - you might want to move this to x:112 y:272 for a better blanket with 02:42:015 (3) -
02:42:694 (6,7) - same thing as with 01:15:914 (6,7) -
02:57:439 (9) - try moving this over 2 grid units (x:320) so the slider curve is in line with 02:57:270 (8) -

Chu's Insane

02:27:100 (4) - I would recommend putting a NC here as there is a NC every 3 beats in the pattern 02:25:066 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) -

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-02-28T08:12:52+00:00

UPDATED!

mrturtle99 wrote:
Hi from my modding queue~
Thank you for accepting my map

Hard
00:40:490 (4,5) - might want to move 00:40:998 (5) - to x:196 so it is directly over the curve in the slider for a better looking blanket
fixed. nice suggestion, I didn't mention it before lol

01:09:134 (2,3) - with this blanket try moving 01:09:304 (3) - over 2 grid units (x:48) as I feel the blanket looks better this way
wow. fixed.

01:15:236 (3,4) - not sure if this is supposed to be a blanket, but if it is, please fix it (I like x:396 y:120)
COOL

01:15:914 (6,7) - try moving 01:16:422 (7) - to x:160 y:196 so it is in the middle of the slider curve
AWESOME

02:35:914 (2,3) - if you are trying to blanket this, move 02:36:084 (3) - to x:464 so the HC is in the middle of the slider curve
GREAT

02:42:185 (4) - you might want to move this to x:112 y:272 for a better blanket with 02:42:015 (3) -
Not really, but I move 02:42:015 (3) -

02:42:694 (6,7) - same thing as with 01:15:914 (6,7) -
NICE

02:57:439 (9) - try moving this over 2 grid units (x:320) so the slider curve is in line with 02:57:270 (8) -
PERFECT

Wow that's a great mention to me with a lot of blanket fixed
Appreciate it!!!!!

qxqd_1993

17 posts

Joined June 2012

qxqd_1993 2015-02-28T13:00:19+00:00

小新人前來膜拜視HARD如Normal的大神_(:з」∠)_

HARD:
00:05:320(1,2)&00:13:371(1,2) Shall we blanket them?【這些真的不用blanket么……逼死處女座系列】
00:17:609(1,2,3,4,5) I guess this combo does not tune, Maybe Fix slider 5?【我有一種樓主是打算在這裡做一個過渡的感覺？但是好像兩邊的調子都對不上？我想著Circle 3 可以留空拍或者Slider 5需要做一點微調】
00:28:117(5) & 00:28:795(1,4) i have another idea that to NC at First point, Change Slider at second point into stream, Change Circle 4 into slider link to 5 and NC this new Slider【我有個想法就是把00:28:117(5)給New一個Combo然後把00:28:795(1)的combo消掉並且轉成連打，再把00:28:795(4,5)改成一個滑條然後再這裡New一個Combo】

VisioN:
00:05:744(2,3,4,5) try make Sampleset better here【總覺得音效的設置不夠好，讓人覺得節奏比較混亂】
00:23:032 A better transition than Hard【這裡的處理比HARD要好得多，順利地轉移到了新的主旋律上】
00:50:024(1,2,3,4) redo this stream【把這個連打做出弧線好不好？】
01:05:575 I love this stream【這個連打不但打出了美觀和自己的節奏，而且和曲子的配合也毫不遜色，簡直是整個譜子里最好的演繹】
01:12:100 Circle is your lie【圈6是你的謊言_(:з」∠)_】
01:15:236 Another Nice Combo【又是一個精彩的Combo】
01:21:846 I am puzzled again with this combo【從曲子上講Slider 2似乎是不太值得回來的……而且Circle 3也感覺不到表達出了什麽……和後面 02:35:405 地方感覺起來根本不能比……】
02:08:456 Nice Circles again【這里的演繹也很有感覺】
02:43:710 Stream does not fit, try something else【感覺這裡的連打即使破壞了音樂本體原有的連貫性也沒有凸顯出自己的節奏，++不爽】
02:58:965(1,2,3,4,5,6,7) Redo these Sliders with arcs?【這裡用Sliders的確是一個非常不錯的選擇，但是如果做點微調，增加這裡的連貫性感覺會更好？】
03:09:685(5) A terrible feeling slider【這個Slider真的感覺好奇怪，因為它在一個新音節開始的地方中止了，是不是可以考慮和這里的4、下組的1組合拆成Slider+Circle+Slider的結構？】

OTHERS:
I did everything I AM ABLE TO as a beginner【我想就我現在的水平來講我已經盡力了，如果有什麽不對的地放給您帶來麻煩的話希望能不計前嫌地幫助我，謝謝_(:з」∠)_】
All personal opinion above【所以上面都是些《一己之見》】
Should i take care about guest Diff?【要我管那些Guest Diff么？私信我的話我還會再躺尸回來的……】

Nerova Riuz GX

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Topic Starter

Nerova Riuz GX 2015-02-28T13:51:43+00:00

UPDATED!
本串第一個中文mod就是你啦

qxqd_1993 wrote:
小新人前來膜拜視HARD如Normal的大神_(:з」∠)_
那個Normal根本是標準的Normal啊qwq
皮皮的Normal標準是2.25星以下但是這個2.30 qwq
還有其實這裡都中文通不必介意

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HARD:
00:05:320(1,2)&00:13:371(1,2) Shall we blanket them?【這些真的不用blanket么……逼死處女座系列】
不了，在這裡Blanket不是個在Hard的好選擇，但是我調整了一點點Circle的位置

00:17:609(1,2,3,4,5) I guess this combo does not tune, Maybe Fix slider 5?【我有一種樓主是打算在這裡做一個過渡的感覺？但是好像兩邊的調子都對不上？我想著Circle 3 可以留空拍或者Slider 5需要做一點微調】
因為沒有放滿所有音，所以不是很想留空拍，因為那樣會......很空虛(?) 不過我把4換成了來回，5換成HC，這樣應該會好點?

00:28:117(5) & 00:28:795(1,4) i have another idea that to NC at First point, Change Slider at second point into stream, Change Circle 4 into slider link to 5 and NC this new Slider【我有個想法就是把00:28:117(5)給New一個Combo然後把00:28:795(1)的combo消掉並且轉成連打，再把00:28:795(4,5)改成一個滑條然後再這裡New一個Combo】
前面這段就我認為應該是要比較簡單、比較放鬆點的，所以出現連打並不是個好選擇

VisioN:
00:05:744(2,3,4,5) try make Sampleset better here【總覺得音效的設置不夠好，讓人覺得節奏比較混亂】
這裡原先並沒有任何的Sampleset出現，可能是因為Hit太大聲的原因......我改小聲點
而且這是個mashup，加越多會越亂，只能盡量控制下不要壓過去

00:23:032 A better transition than Hard【這裡的處理比HARD要好得多，順利地轉移到了新的主旋律上】
謝謝鼓勵

00:50:024(1,2,3,4) redo this stream【把這個連打做出弧線好不好？】
呃這事實上不是個連打，但弧線是個好主意

01:05:575 I love this stream【這個連打不但打出了美觀和自己的節奏，而且和曲子的配合也毫不遜色，簡直是整個譜子里最好的演繹】
謝謝誇獎

01:12:100 Circle is your lie【圈6是你的謊言_(:з」∠)_】
這不就是一個經典補位的概念嗎www

01:15:236 Another Nice Combo【又是一個精彩的Combo】
有人在抱怨那裏不該出現1/8的啊囧

01:21:846 I am puzzled again with this combo【從曲子上講Slider 2似乎是不太值得回來的……而且Circle 3也感覺不到表達出了什麽……和後面 02:35:405 地方感覺起來根本不能比……】
我取消了來回，補上了一個HC。

02:08:456 Nice Circles again【這里的演繹也很有感覺】
+1

02:43:710 Stream does not fit, try something else【感覺這裡的連打即使破壞了音樂本體原有的連貫性也沒有凸顯出自己的節奏，++不爽】
不錯的提醒。我把2去掉，成了HC+三連

02:58:965(1,2,3,4,5,6,7) Redo these Sliders with arcs?【這裡用Sliders的確是一個非常不錯的選擇，但是如果做點微調，增加這裡的連貫性感覺會更好？】
我有點難想像你連貫性的概念，所以就自己處理了一番，也確實有好了點

03:09:685(5) A terrible feeling slider【這個Slider真的感覺好奇怪，因為它在一個新音節開始的地方中止了，是不是可以考慮和這里的4、下組的1組合拆成Slider+Circle+Slider的結構？】
媽呀這根本最佳留言了這
我搞了半小時都無解的問題你一句話就好了

OTHERS:
I did everything I AM ABLE TO as a beginner【我想就我現在的水平來講我已經盡力了，如果有什麽不對的地放給您帶來麻煩的話希望能不計前嫌地幫助我，謝謝_(:з」∠)_】
就我個人來說我覺得這塊沒有新手這東西，只有有沒有理解的差別
雖然你現在達不到可以PASS甚至是FC的技術，但是因為如此你的意見更為特別，反而具有參考性
不管怎麼說我覺得你可以繼續保持
All personal opinion above【所以上面都是些《一己之見》】
Should i take care about guest Diff?【要我管那些Guest Diff么？私信我的話我還會再躺尸回來的……】
如果你要躺屍回來的話我會歡迎你的OwO
另外Guest Diff要不要碰就屬於你的自由意志了，我也不好要求你，只是我無法另外再多給你Kudosu便是
還有 arronchu1207 也是中文通www

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-03-01T10:44:46+00:00

Hey Riuz!
I am still working on the GD, I have almost finished 1/2 of it.
I was taking the pace really slow until today so I'll try to finish it either today or tomorrow.

I just want to say that the difficulty gap between Hard and Chu's Insane is too small, you might want to increase Chu's Insane difficulty or add an other diff between his Insane and Vision.

qxqd_1993

17 posts

Joined June 2012

qxqd_1993 2015-03-01T14:52:58+00:00

我聽說arronchu1207也在用《中國話》那我就中文了_(:з」∠)_
意見不對無視就好，反正只是Nerova Riuz GX丟Request誘捕的新人……

白色的字代表純屬吐槽
黑色的字代表正經言論

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Normal:
00:23:032 從這裡就換到另一邊去了是不是早了點。
00:29:473(3) 這里的Circle 3感覺是真的很不合適的，如果要保持一個Circle建議丟到00:29:304，如果要保持這個點有note建議把它變成一個折返一次的滑條，起在00:29:304。
00:30:659 因為這個點動搖了我的上一行白字，但是我覺得應該是已經換掉了，有必要補一個Circle？又或者是故意留的空拍么？
01:22:693 這裡的兩個Combo做得不錯，不過也間接導致了被皮皮拖成HARD？
01:28:795(2,3,4) 這一組簡直神了_(:з」∠)_我認栽
02:27:439(1,2,3,4,5,6)做得很好，blanket很贊，節奏的過渡也非常到位……<h1>但是</h1>我覺得分佈得如此过于密集的 3和4 给只有Normal水平的玩家所带来的東西并不是音樂中的愉♀悦而是精神上折♂磨

Insane:
01:03:032(1,2,3,4) AS U CAN SEE，你從01:00:998(1)開始就用了1拍和2拍略微錯開或者成角的排布方式，這裡雖然變成Circle了，但是排布的方式是否可以繼續保持一下呢？
01:07:439 和Normal的某處如出一轍，我感♂受到了麻婆大人滿滿的惡意
01:26:083 此處應有掌聲
02:12:863 反跳贊
02:33:880 我才想說掌聲_(:з」∠)_【跪】但的確是一個美妙的跳
這個難度就沒出過音樂的節奏，我的能力只能夠進行一點吐槽而已了

_(:з」∠)_只有这3条……果然新手的能力還是太有限了，之前mod的部份還以為自己有點長進了，看上去完全沒有……
嗯，我只是覺得還是幫到底好了吧，明天要考試我也就不再測加上sample的部份了……

順便，

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:
UPDATED!
本串第一個中文mod就是你啦

qxqd_1993 wrote:
小新人前來膜拜視HARD如Normal的大神_(:з」∠)_
01:15:236 Another Nice Combo【又是一個精彩的Combo】
有人在抱怨那裏不該出現1/8的啊囧

只要多注意一下音乐的走向就能知道这里用1/8是完全没有问题的，Song在这里有这种小拍的结构，这里我点赞的理由完全在于楼主在这个地方的设计跟音乐跟得很好，但的确因为1/8因为一般不被建议使用【听说1/16和1/32除了神麻婆，用的人都是作死】所以要去要留完全在麻婆的一念之间

其實，我想問HC到底是什麽呢~?

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Nerova Riuz GX 2015-03-02T06:17:21+00:00

qxqd_1993 wrote:
我聽說arronchu1207也在用《中國話》那我就中文了_(:з」∠)_
意見不對無視就好，反正只是Nerova Riuz GX丟Request誘捕的新人……
原來我是用誘捕的嗎2333

順便，
Nerova Riuz GX wrote:
UPDATED!
本串第一個中文mod就是你啦

01:15:236 Another Nice Combo【又是一個精彩的Combo】
有人在抱怨那裏不該出現1/8的啊囧
只要多注意一下音乐的走向就能知道这里用1/8是完全没有问题的，Song在这里有这种小拍的结构，这里我点赞的理由完全在于楼主在这个地方的设计跟音乐跟得很好，但的确因为1/8因为一般不被建议使用【听说1/16和1/32除了神麻婆，用的人都是作死】所以要去要留完全在麻婆的一念之间
不管我怎麼試都還是覺得1/8打起來才帶感啊

其實，我想問HC到底是什麽呢~?
Hit Circle

嘛我晚點請Chu來看看
讓你跑兩趟真是辛苦啦OuO
另外我敢打賭你為了把我的名字拼出來一定看了不下兩次2333

[Dominic]

43 posts

Joined April 2013

[Dominic] 2015-03-06T00:08:15+00:00

Hello! M4M request from your queue!
Please remember that any mods i make are nothing more then suggestions. do not feel the need to change anything/everything i mention.

Chu's Normal

02:23:710 (1,2,3,4) - i thought this combo should be mapped like the combo right before it: 02:22:185 (2,3,4)
01:49:812 (3) - move to X:136 Y:320 to line to the combo.
02:46:761 (7) - it would mess up the distance snap a bit, but if you move this circle to X:424 Y:40 so it would line up with the combo. you're call.
overall looks great! nice work.

Hard

00:08:032 - add a circle here.
00:10:744 - ^
00:16:168 - ^
00:18:880 - ^
everything sounded nice, flowed well. i enjoyed the map! nice work!

Chu's Insane

consider adding a circles here: 00:02:609 - 00:05:320 - 00:08:032 - 00:10:744 - 00:13:456 - 00:16:168 - 00:18:880 - 00:22:948 - 00:27:015 - 00:29:727 - 00:32:439 - 00:35:151 - 00:37:863 - 00:40:575
01:09:134 (1) - angle the end of the slider a bit higher up.
01:18:795 (1,2,3,4) - the combo placement with your distance snap threw me off. something like this flowed better in my opinion. http://puu.sh/go6mV/b369c1f60a.jpg
i loved the map! you did a fine job with it!

VisioN
i like the map. its fun and flows well. the only thing i can suggest is to change some of the spacing.

01:15:236 (3,4,5,6) - lessen the gap between these kick sliders.
01:38:117 (5,6,7,8,9) - shorten the distance snap between circles on this stream. keep the same spacing between jumps.
01:18:287 (5,6,7,8) - ^
01:29:473 (1,2,3) - ^
01:40:829 (3,4,5) - ^
01:40:151 (6,7,8) - ^
02:42:354 (3,4,5) - ^
02:49:304 (9,10,11,1,2,3) - ^
i mention these because after playing the map a few times, it was clear to me that the large jumps and spaced streams were incredibly difficult. the map as it is isn't bad by any means. you do not need to change spacing at all, but this my reasoning behind spacing changes.

Thats it for my mods! love the maps and the song! good luck getting this ranked!

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Nerova Riuz GX 2015-03-06T15:41:20+00:00

[Dominic] wrote:
Hello! M4M request from your queue!
Please remember that any mods i make are nothing more then suggestions. do not feel the need to change anything/everything i mention.

Hard
00:08:032 - add a circle here.
00:10:744 - ^
00:16:168 - ^
00:18:880 - ^
all fixed.

everything sounded nice, flowed well. i enjoyed the map! nice work!
VisioN
i like the map. its fun and flows well. the only thing i can suggest is to change some of the spacing.
01:15:236 (3,4,5,6) - lessen the gap between these kick sliders.
Nope. That's a special set, and I did it like that to fit the part better. I think I won't change it, only except when it cause some problem and make the map unrankable.
01:38:117 (5,6,7,8,9) - shorten the distance snap between circles on this stream. keep the same spacing between jumps.
01:18:287 (5,6,7,8) - ^
01:29:473 (1,2,3) - ^
01:40:829 (3,4,5) - ^
01:40:151 (6,7,8) - ^
02:42:354 (3,4,5) - ^
02:49:304 (9,10,11,1,2,3) - ^
Sorry, I have to ignore these stream's mod. FOR NOW, ALL OF THESE NOTES IN STREAMS ARE CALCULATED AND SET IN A NICE ROUTE. And If I change the distance snaps, the whole style of arrangement I want to create will be destroyed.

i mention these because after playing the map a few times, it was clear to me that the large jumps and spaced streams were incredibly difficult. the map as it is isn't bad by any means. you do not need to change spacing at all, but this my reasoning behind spacing changes.
Thats it for my mods! love the maps and the song! good luck getting this ranked!

arronchu1207

805 posts

Joined December 2012

arronchu1207 2015-03-06T16:24:17+00:00

mrturtle99

Normal
00:21:761 (1,1) - seeing as this is the lowest difficulty in the mapset, I would hesitate to include a slider immediately 1 beat after a spinner, so maybe extend the spinner 1 beat and make the slider just the 2nd and 3rd points, or come up with another pattern NICE

00:30:829 (5,6) - I would try to avoid stacking HC's under sliders in easy/normal, as the slider kind of hides the HC, so consider changing up the pattern a little bit
00:42:863 (6,1) - ^
00:55:575 (2,3,4) - I think this blanket looks better if you lower 00:56:253 (3) - by one grid mark (y:248)
01:05:066 (1,1) - same thing as I mentioned first, slider immediately 1 beat after a spinner
01:49:812 (3) - not sure about using 3 HS on 1 HC, consider using just one HS per note
02:19:643 (8,1) - I think this blanket looks better if you move 02:19:982 (1) - over 1 grid unit (x:240) no
02:31:846 (1,1) - more slider after spinner
03:11:507 (5) - if you move to 03:11:676 - it sounds more in line with the vocal-ish stuff in the music, if that is the rhythm that the HC's are following

In
02:27:100 (4) - I would recommend putting a NC here as there is a NC every 3 beats in the pattern
02:25:066 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - What

qxqd_1993

Normal:
00:23:032 從這裡就換到另一邊去了是不是早了點。
00:29:473(3) 這里的Circle 3感覺是真的很不合適的，如果要保持一個Circle建議丟到00:29:304，如果要保持這個點有note建議把它變成一個折返一次的滑條，起在00:29:304。折返//
00:30:659 因為這個點動搖了我的上一行白字，但是我覺得應該是已經換掉了，有必要補一個Circle？又或者是故意留的空拍么？我想先弄溫馨一點到後面再開始瘟腥(?
01:22:693 這裡的兩個Combo做得不錯，不過也間接導致了被皮皮拖成HARD？HARD仍是一團謎
01:28:795(2,3,4) 這一組簡直神了_(:з」∠)_我認栽 >w<
02:27:439(1,2,3,4,5,6)做得很好，blanket很贊，節奏的過渡也非常到位……<h1>但是</h1>我覺得分佈得如此过于密集的 3和4 给只有Normal水平的玩家所带来的東西并不是音樂中的愉♀悦而是精神上折♂磨我放遠點w

Insane:
01:03:032(1,2,3,4) AS U CAN SEE，你從01:00:998(1)開始就用了1拍和2拍略微錯開或者成角的排布方式，這裡雖然變成Circle了，但是排布的方式是否可以繼續保持一下呢？成角了(?)
01:07:439 和Normal的某處如出一轍，我感♂受到了麻婆大人滿滿的惡意 owO/
01:26:083 此處應有掌聲我覺得還好的說qwq
02:12:863 反跳贊 >w<
02:33:880 我才想說掌聲_(:з」∠)_【跪】但的確是一個美妙的跳
這個難度就沒出過音樂的節奏，我的能力只能夠進行一點吐槽而已了

[box=[Dominic):1337]Chu's Normal
02:23:710 (1,2,3,4) - i thought this combo should be mapped like the combo right before it: 02:22:185 (2,3,4)

01:49:812 (3) - move to X:136 Y:320 to line to the combo.
02:46:761 (7) - it would mess up the distance snap a bit, but if you move this circle to X:424 Y:40 so it would line up with the combo. you're call.
overall looks great! nice work. Thanks

Chu's Insane
consider adding a circles here: 00:02:609 - 00:05:320 - 00:08:032 - 00:10:744 - 00:13:456 - 00:16:168 - 00:18:880 - 00:22:948 - 00:27:015 - 00:29:727 - 00:32:439 - 00:35:151 - 00:37:863 - 00:40:575 I want the beginning easy
01:09:134 (1) - angle the end of the slider a bit higher up.
01:18:795 (1,2,3,4) - the combo placement with your distance snap threw me off. something like this flowed better in my opinion. http://puu.sh/go6mV/b369c1f60a.jpg no

i loved the map! you did a fine job with it!
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DreaM117er

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DreaM117er 2015-03-06T16:52:07+00:00

被我抓到了，想求M4M，等我的Mod吧

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-03-06T17:10:47+00:00

m1223961117 wrote:
被我抓到了，想求M4M，等我的Mod吧

有什麼問題，當然可以啦

Tarrasky

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Tarrasky 2015-03-06T18:06:09+00:00

mod req from my queue

Chu's Normal

if the difficulty is less than 2.25 it will become officially a Normal, the patterns are good for a Normal, missing only some fix
00:10:829 (1,2,3,4) - look if you like a reverse arrow in here https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2856296
00:29:304 (3) - hmm, maybe this can be a bit confuse, try this direction https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2856301
00:38:965 - 2 sliders 1/1 and 1 circle sounds good

01:03:710 (1,2,3,4) - this can be deleted and start a spin in 01:03:710 - until 01:06:083 and add a circle in 01:06:422 (1) - x:256 y:180
01:14:558 (4) - add NC
01:23:371 - maybe this can be more easy from Normal https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2856329
01:27:439 (5,6) - change from a slider, like 01:27:778 (7) -
03:13:880 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - try this, more easy from Normal https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2856343
03:15:236 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - you can delete this and add a Spin here https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2856351

Hard

00:55:914 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Overlap not is necessary between the sliders
I prefer this spin 01:05:405 (1) - starts in 01:05:066 - and of course, delete 01:05:066 (4) -
01:12:524 (1,2,3) - I prefer this form

01:15:066 (2,3) - 1,9x jump is a big high, i think
01:23:371 (4,5,6) - avoid overlap https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2856441
01:25:405 (2,3) - do these 2 are symmetric
02:38:626 (3,5) - /\

Chu's Insane

Nice map, congrats
but have a little problem:
Im not sufe if currently the slider of a speed may be slower than its lower difficulty
Hard= 1,5x speed Chu's Insane=1,2x speed
Maybe it was removed from the rank criteria, talk to some bn for details

Nice music, congrats and good luck >w<

DreaM117er

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DreaM117er 2015-03-07T10:38:42+00:00

求M4M，逛街時看到的~~

因為節奏感很強，給你一些你略掉的音或是節奏感給你作參考
還有告訴你們一些違規的地方，一般Modder是看不太出來的 (紅色違規)

[General]

缺少了一個Easy，規定上最低難度要低於2.0 Star
看要不要去掉http://puu.sh/gpYSL/1973c345b8.png
Kiai我認為還是以Ai Mod為主，跟Xinchii討論過了，沒問題
01:06:422 - 預覽點沒對齊
From Ai mod in Insane: http://puu.sh/gpZhQ/9697d295a3.png (1/6也一樣，請修正)

[Chu's Normal]

音效同你的Insane，請使用GX大的

00:21:676 (4,1) - 刪掉Spinner，把節奏都作出來
00:24:049 - 刪掉Finish
00:33:032 (2) - 只是為放音效而放這個Circle是無意義的，你在跟什麼聲音??
01:12:185 - 放這個怎麼樣?? http://puu.sh/gqeV4/3c0f69a0ab.jpg
01:21:168 (4) - 刪掉
01:21:846 (5) - 移到01:21:676 ，01:22:185 - 加Circle
01:23:710 (3,4) - 這樣的連點，用Slider呈現
01:24:219 (5,6,7,8) - ^
01:44:049 (2,3) - ^
02:22:015 (1,2) - ^
02:26:422 (6) - 貼到血條了，違規
02:27:439 (1,2,3) - 換成Slider
02:28:456 (4,5,6) - DS
02:30:490 (1,2) - ^
02:33:710 - 聲音適從這裡開始的，這樣就節奏錯了
02:36:931 (3,4) - 換成Slider
02:42:524 (4,1) - ^
02:45:744 (4) - 刪掉Finish，無意義
02:54:219 (2,3,4,5) - 換成Slider
02:57:270 (6,7) - ^
02:59:643 (4,5) - ^
03:04:388 (6,7) - DS
03:06:422 (2) - 快貼到血條了，往下拉

03:12:863 - 刪掉Finish
03:13:880 (1,2,3) - 換成Slider
03:14:558 (4,5,6) - ^
03:15:914 (2,3,4,5) - ^

[Hard]

Xinchii告訴我Hard的物件數比Insane多，所以我會叫你刪掉很多東西

前三個綠線完全沒聲音，不放大聲就違規了
00:02:580 (3) - 疊好
00:22:015 - 多餘的兩條線
00:25:914 (9) - 刪掉，Hard要留點Space，同樣是為了好玩才弄
00:26:592 (2,3,4) - DS分開
00:30:490 (5,6) - Ctrl+G，節奏很奇怪，變換一下位置
00:31:168 - 同樣不要漏掉重音
00:31:507 (1,2,3) - DS分開
00:36:592 - Circle呢??
00:36:931 (1,2,3,4) - 不解釋了
00:42:015 - Circle
00:42:354 (1,2,3,4) - 一樣
00:48:795 - 略掉他了，00:48:456 (2,3) - Ctrl+G
00:57:270 (4,5,6) - 移開沒關係，不要疊到：http://puu.sh/gqcJy/c374edb68c.jpg
00:58:626 (1,2,3) - ^
00:59:982 (4,5,6) - ^
01:05:066 (4,1) - 合成一個Spinner，01:05:066 (4) - 這裡你沒有跟鼓聲，也沒有鼓聲可以跟；01:06:083 - Spinner到這裡結束更讚，01:06:422 - 加個Circle
01:06:931 (2) - 刪掉，節奏感同VersioN，後面你知道的這種點你可以自己改，我會列出來
01:07:439 (4,5,6) - Hard請減少使用這種連打，多運用這個：http://puu.sh/gqcVu/06bc0d9576.jpg
01:09:304 (3) - 刪掉，01:09:473 - 這裡加Circle
01:11:337 (8,9,1) - 不解釋
01:12:524 (1,2) - 都換成01:11:846 (3) - 代替，01:13:541 (3) - 這裡下得很好
01:15:236 (3) - 刪去
01:17:778 (4) - 換成Circle
01:18:626 (7,8) - Ctrl+G
01:20:659 (4) - 刪掉，01:20:829 - 加Circle
01:21:846 (3,4,5) - 疊在一起
01:28:117 (1) - 頭尾換成Circle，01:28:287 - 留空
01:29:812 - 不要無視掉重音
01:36:761 (3) - 一樣的節奏
01:39:643 (6) - 請用Slider代替
01:42:354 (6) - 刪掉
01:45:066 (6) - ^
01:48:287 (1,2,3) - 不解試
01:48:795 (5,6,7,8) - 給你的節奏：http://puu.sh/gqdP3/88a8d90d2e.jpg
02:00:659 (1) - 刪掉或是同Normal
02:10:490 - Spinner從這裡開始，02:08:795 - 沒聲音
02:14:558 (1,2,3,4) - 同第一段，DS
02:19:558 - 重音
02:23:202 (4) - 刪掉這個
02:25:406 (1,2,3,4) - DS
02:33:541 (1) - 刪掉這個，02:33:711 (2) - 記得NC
02:36:084 (3) - 同前面給你的節奏
02:38:117 (8,9,1) - 不解釋
02:44:050 (1) - 頭尾Circle，同前面給的一樣
02:48:626 (3,4,5) - 疊在一起
02:52:863 - 重音
02:57:609 - ^
02:58:117 - 從這裡開始放物件
02:58:795 (2,3,4) - 參考一下：http://puu.sh/gqegy/441753d6bf.jpg，03:04:388 (1,2,3) - 03:12:354 (6,7,8) -
03:00:998 - 重音
03:06:592 - ^
03:08:456 (6,7,8) - DS
03:09:982 - 重音
03:13:880 (3,4,5) - DS
03:15:236 (5) - 打算無視掉這裡的重音嗎?? 很難打...這裡
03:16:592 (8) - NC

[Chu's Insane]

為什麼你沒有使用GX大的音效，比較好的說
02:00:659 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 一樣同VersioN，換成像Normal的Slider
02:35:744 (4) - 這是故意沒疊好的嗎??
大大主要是音效有點詭異...
我有點懶得抓，建議音效使用GX大的，條完之後在去找下個Mod解決

[VisioN]

Slider Velocity的設定很奇怪，請一定要修掉，原定速率1.5太低了，然後又再Timing軌道上增加1.25x、1.5x調整變速，沒意義
我個人建議1.8到2.0會是比較好作Extra的速率，底下試原速率直接看
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並不是將所有格子都照著1/4、1/6、1/8都給他填起來就叫作Extra，適度的把空間呈現出來，玩起來會更愉快
※沒標示的都是直接砍掉：
00:44:897 (2) - 00:47:609 (5) - 00:50:320 (2) - 01:28:287 (1) - 01:37:778 (3) -
01:44:558 (3) - 01:44:558 - 留這裡空間，不要放東西
01:47:270 (4) - 02:01:846 (8,1) - 02:11:337 (5) - 02:22:524 (2) - 02:27:948 (8) -
02:33:371 - 空出這裡，Slider不要折返放白線上，03:05:914 (1) -
02:44:219 (5) - 02:49:643 (1,2,3) -
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不要無視掉重音，大部分的人玩節奏遊戲的時候眼睛才是輔助用的：
00:25:744 - 00:31:168 - 00:33:202 - 00:44:049 - 00:52:863 - 01:22:015 - 01:46:761 - 02:14:219 -
02:37:100 (1) - 3個鼓聲要無視掉嗎?? 02:50:659 (3) -
02:39:473 - 又一個被無視掉的鼓聲，02:39:897 - 02:44:897 - 02:45:320 -
02:57:609 - 02:58:880 - 03:12:439 -
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00:22:354 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - 節奏錯誤，請不要把那個後面快速的背景作出來，像這裡一樣就OK：00:16:140 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
00:27:609 (4,5) - 給你一個節奏參考：http://puu.sh/gq0Bv/47333e495e.jpg
00:30:320 - 這裡沒有聲音，折返去掉
00:46:931 (2,3,4) - Ctrl+G，然後把00:46:931 (2,3) - 合併成一個Slider
01:00:659 (1) - 去掉折返，改放Circle強調重音
01:09:134 (7,1) - 不要貼到一起
01:10:320 (4,5) - 我的建議啦，要跳就這樣跳感覺不錯：http://puu.sh/gq0Uh/e45b6ca049.jpg
01:24:727 (9,1) - 你要確定超過20個測試你一定不能斷，Overmap
01:27:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 這個節奏都放Circle不好玩：http://puu.sh/gq13x/5864592b6f.jpg
01:30:829 (3,5,6,7,8) - 再分開一點不要相連
01:49:304 (5,6,7,8,1) - 參考：http://puu.sh/gq1lN/b848481422.jpg
02:00:659 (1,2,3,4,5) - 錯誤節奏，作成像Normal那樣一個Sliber，最好用變速
02:01:337 - 這裡沒有聲音，不要放置任何物件
02:05:914 - ^
02:14:558 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 節奏要放對，不是只為了強調顏色才放
02:16:931 - 改Circle
02:24:897 (9,1) - Ctrl+G
02:25:405 (2,3,4) - 折返箭頭遮擋，分開來
02:31:846 (5) - NC
02:32:609 (8,1) - 會違規的，這距離，Overmap
02:33:032 (2) - 換成2個Circle如何??
02:42:438 (4) - 移到02:42:609 -
02:48:880 (7) - 錯誤節奏，02:48:626 (5,6,7,8) - 這一段要重作
02:53:202 (4) - 移到02:53:456 - ，空出02:53:202 (4) - 這裡
02:54:049 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 同01:27:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
02:56:168 - Cricle
02:59:982 (5,6,7) - 這一段用1/3作完整一點
03:01:676 (5,6,7,8) - 不要貼在一起
03:04:897 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 同01:27:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
03:16:592 (6) - NC

也不是說我喜歡抓這種你們覺得可以的地方...
我是很老實的照著規矩來的，紅色的請務必修改
希望我給你們的節奏你們會喜歡
我的圖在這裡：https://osu.ppy.sh/s/269765

祝兩位好運，還有問題再通知我

Last edited by DreaM117er 2015-03-07T15:19:51+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-03-07T12:54:36+00:00

I'll update the map later

Tarrasky wrote:
mod req from my queue

Hard

00:55:914 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Overlap not is necessary between the sliders
slightly fixed

I prefer this spin 01:05:405 (1) - starts in 01:05:066 - and of course, delete 01:05:066 (4) -
nice. fixed

01:12:524 (1,2,3) - I prefer this form
Not really. your arrangement still lack something, but idk what is it

01:15:066 (2,3) - 1,9x jump is a big high, i think
fixed.

01:23:371 (4,5,6) - avoid overlap https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2856441
fixed.

01:25:405 (2,3) - do these 2 are symmetric
fixed

02:38:626 (3,5) - /\
They are not a set for symmetric.

Nice music, congrats and good luck >w<
Thanks.

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-03-07T16:08:01+00:00

UPDATED!

modder本人也請務必看過一遍

m1223961117 wrote:
求M4M，逛街時看到的~~

因為節奏感很強，給你一些你略掉的音或是節奏感給你作參考
還有告訴你們一些違規的地方，一般Modder是看不太出來的 (紅色違規)

[General]

缺少了一個Easy，規定上最低難度要低於2.0 Star
這點我真心不清楚，而我的easy根本上不了檯面......可能看要不要找個GD之類的。
看要不要去掉http://puu.sh/gpYSL/1973c345b8.png
Kiai我認為還是以Ai Mod為主，跟Xinchii討論過了，沒問題
01:06:422 - 預覽點沒對齊
From Ai mod in Insane: http://puu.sh/gpZhQ/9697d295a3.png (1/6也一樣，請修正)
[VisioN]
Slider Velocity的設定很奇怪，請一定要修掉，原定速率1.5太低了，然後又再Timing軌道上增加1.25x、1.5x調整變速，沒意義
我個人建議1.8到2.0會是比較好作Extra的速率，底下試原速率直接看
當初這個難度起手的時候是2.0沒有錯，但是個人習慣是0.25x為間距用綠線調整，所以才會出現1.5又1.5x
如果說一次上2.0的話我反而沒辦法抓速度
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並不是將所有格子都照著1/4、1/6、1/8都給他填起來就叫作Extra，適度的把空間呈現出來，玩起來會更愉快
這道理我是知道沒有錯，但是個人打圖真心討厭暫停，會覺得有缺東西一整個瞬間無感OAO
比起停下來我覺得拉滑條更好帶，所以原先我覺得應該空出來的點全部都用長一點的滑條拉過去了

※沒標示的都是直接砍掉：
00:44:897 (2) - 00:47:609 (5) - 00:50:320 (2) - 01:28:287 (1) - 01:37:778 (3) -

01:44:558 (3) - 01:44:558 - 留這裡空間，不要放東西
這個我比較沒辦法接受，不過我換了一個排列，有空出來一格

01:47:270 (4) -
02:01:846 (8,1) - 我只刪了1
02:11:337 (5) -
02:22:524 (2) - 這個我真沒辦法接受，我想把這裡弄得很緊湊，不停的接下去
02:27:948 (8) -
02:33:371 - 空出這裡，Slider不要折返放白線上，03:05:914 (1) -
02:44:219 (5) -
02:49:643 (1,2,3) - 砍掉了，然後另補上了一個滑條

因為刪掉一些東西，所以擺設有換過，NC也有調整。
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不要無視掉重音，大部分的人玩節奏遊戲的時候眼睛才是輔助用的：
00:25:744 - 00:31:168 - 00:33:202 - 00:44:049 - 00:52:863 - 01:22:015 - 01:46:761 - 02:14:219 -
02:37:100 (1) - 3個鼓聲要無視掉嗎?? 02:50:659 (3) -
02:39:473 - 又一個被無視掉的鼓聲，02:39:897 - 02:44:897 - 02:45:320 -
02:57:609 - 02:58:880 - 03:12:439 -

我只是想說

在我正準備看這裡我還覺得不錯，但很意外的，我看完之後改了一半都不到。
在Electronic的世界，EDM越來越多，Hardcore、Trance等等注重鼓聲鑼鈸的跟著增加，好像變得什麼都要跟上鼓，什麼都要跟上那個最規律的"重音"。從頭到尾鼓聲不絕於耳，你要比大聲我還可以更大聲，然後蹦! 一個曲子出現。要聽這種地去Youtube找，就是一堆放在那裏給你聽。但是鼓歸鼓，主旋律歸主旋律，我要是每個點都跟著鼓、跟著鑼鈸，那為什麼我還要玩這個而不是坐在家裡玩MIDI、鼓點節拍器? 我玩的是節奏遊戲，節奏不等於規律運動，節奏有長有短，有其可變性。主旋律真心沒被很多人放在眼裡，我是這麼覺得的。現在眼前就是個實例，這個mashup有很棒的flow，讓人放鬆的段子，讓人興奮的段子，給人一種開闊的感覺，要是鼓可沒有這種效果。那把這些note放在主旋律上，跟著帶動情緒的部分走，難道就不是一種選擇嗎? 大部分的人玩節奏遊戲眼睛都是輔助用的，那如果我跟著旋律走，反而不會對遊玩帶來影響啊! 真要說的話，反而是那種奇葩mapper做出來的東擋西擋或是拐來拐去的滑條才會有這種狀況。我覺得那些點，很多都沒有其絕對的必要性。可能這違背許多人的常理，但我認為適當程度的抹除重音，在這裡是必須的。
回到上面的mod，我為何要去"產生"一個莫名其妙的note讓他多出來放在主旋律長音、甚至是什麼都沒有的地方，好讓人打起來就為了對準白線像個節拍器一樣? 這著實沒有賦予它更好、更棒的意義。
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00:22:354 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - 節奏錯誤，請不要把那個後面快速的背景作出來，像這裡一樣就OK：00:16:140 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
對不起，但是我覺得我需要一個""理由""去修改它。我不認為"節奏錯誤"是個理由，甚至是個違規，因為那是可以聽到的。我可以縮短他們的距離，但是我不會去掉裡面的note，除非有任何正當、適當的""理由""。

00:27:609 (4,5) - 給你一個節奏參考：http://puu.sh/gq0Bv/47333e495e.jpg
不。這樣更爛了。00:27:778 - 這個點可不能無中生有，這個位置至關重要。

00:30:320 - 這裡沒有聲音，折返去掉
呃......我想把00:29:982 - 做出"彈跳"的感覺，所以放上了折返
我想不出有什麼可以比這個更好，同時又不會沒有那種感覺

00:46:931 (2,3,4) - Ctrl+G，然後把00:46:931 (2,3) - 合併成一個Slider
稍微再讓我想想

01:00:659 (1) - 去掉折返，改放Circle強調重音
我去掉了折返，但是我不強調重音

01:09:134 (7,1) - 不要貼到一起
OK

01:10:320 (4,5) - 我的建議啦，要跳就這樣跳感覺不錯：http://puu.sh/gq0Uh/e45b6ca049.jpg
我想強調的是那幾個比較尖的聲音，拉長條對此並沒有幫助

01:24:727 (9,1) - 你要確定超過20個測試你一定不能斷，Overmap
一開始就擺這樣沒換過，我打到現在也沒在這兩個中間斷過

01:27:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 這個節奏都放Circle不好玩：http://puu.sh/gq13x/5864592b6f.jpg
照那樣子的話567肯定是要拉開距離變成跳的，實在不覺得這段有什麼好跳。還有，好玩對我而言不是個理由

01:30:829 (3,5,6,7,8) - 再分開一點不要相連
我想把這組弄得有點類似HW的Arousing那樣，但不會像他那樣長

01:49:304 (5,6,7,8,1) - 參考：http://puu.sh/gq1lN/b848481422.jpg
考慮一下，那個短滑條不是覺得很舒服

02:00:659 (1,2,3,4,5) - 錯誤節奏，作成像Normal那樣一個Sliber，最好用變速
這跟的是那串快速的音。請問，錯誤節奏錯在哪?

02:01:337 - 這裡沒有聲音，不要放置任何物件
02:05:914 - ^
OK

02:14:558 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 節奏要放對，不是只為了強調顏色才放
這裡強調的是"重複"，不是為了強調顏色
把每一個都NC的原因是不想要在13中間看到follow point

02:16:931 - 改Circle
OK

02:24:897 (9,1) - Ctrl+G
Ctrl+J, 然後移位

02:25:405 (2,3,4) - 折返箭頭遮擋，分開來
我沒看到遮擋，但是我把它們分開了

02:31:846 (5) - NC
OK

02:32:609 (8,1) - 會違規的，這距離，Overmap
好了

02:33:032 (2) - 換成2個Circle如何??
不錯的主意

02:42:438 (4) - 移到02:42:609 -
不錯

02:48:880 (7) - 錯誤節奏，02:48:626 (5,6,7,8) - 這一段要重作
好了

02:53:202 (4) - 移到02:53:456 - ，空出02:53:202 (4) - 這裡
不刪掉，有補一個

02:54:049 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 同01:27:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
我也覺得和那裏一樣。

02:56:168 - Cricle
沒必要。

02:59:982 (5,6,7) - 這一段用1/3作完整一點
欲知詳情請往上參照 Fort 的 Mod

03:01:676 (5,6,7,8) - 不要貼在一起
有什麼足夠的理由? 他們並沒有遮擋，也沒有節奏問題。

03:04:897 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 同01:27:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
還是一樣。改成短滑條，原本一整個連打下去的一氣呵成，一點感覺都沒有

03:16:592 (6) - NC
OK

等等我，還沒完成，先一個難度...

這大概是我到目前為止收過最令人痛心的mod了
而且，這需要更多的""理由""(或者也可以說是"原因")
不管對modder還是mapper，加上理由絕對不是件壞事，反而兩方都受益

DreaM117er

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DreaM117er 2015-03-07T16:47:05+00:00

你真的需要理由嗎??
給我一點時間，我會告訴你紅字你不改你審核就絕對不會過的理由
我不是沒在看的說，痛心就讓它痛吧

我作圖也痛心過，有人批我的圖一文不值的我也看過
我不想讓你受傷太多你也需要理由的話就再等我一天修Mod給你

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-03-07T17:22:17+00:00

m1223961117 wrote:
你真的需要理由嗎??
給我一點時間，我會告訴你紅字你不改你審核就絕對不會過的理由
我不是沒在看的說，痛心就讓它痛吧

我作圖也痛心過，有人批我的圖一文不值的我也看過
我不想讓你受傷太多你也需要理由的話就再等我一天修Mod給你

我痛心的不是我的圖被改掉
這種事情沒什麼好痛心的，要痛心乾脆從Pending混出去
我真正在意的是那些被指出來的重音

我等的是原因，不是結果。
連原因都不知道只知道必須改掉，那我不管怎麼擺怎麼放怎麼用都還是不知道
比起每一次重複講哪裡要改，不如一次解釋完畢反而減少後患
如果說提出這是個錯誤，不給我原因只要求改掉，就我的行為論來說，我做不到
這就是為何我想知道理由。

DreaM117er

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DreaM117er 2015-03-07T17:48:20+00:00

我醜話說在前，你黑色的部分不改我無所謂，紅色的部分我已經在最前面就告訴你了，你只要不改你就過不了審核。
總之，你把我給惹火了，你需要理由，我會告訴你

我連Mod都不用給了，你跟我說了很多嘛

請問你自己是站在誰的角度去設計圖譜的?? 你只要回答是自己我就說你這張普是「糞譜」
在沒有聲音的地方放上不需要出現的節奏，然後很自以為得很有感覺，這種圖不用說過審核了，活在墳墓裡就好

我是站在玩家的角度去設計「好玩」圖譜的，難道我優先站在一個玩家的角度想不行嗎??

我強調「重音」，是因為重音會讓玩的人分神，比如你是想強調背景的電音，但是重音會轉移你想要表達的部分，很容易造成玩家不知道該跟什麼聲音的情形
之前也有一個Mapper作了一張主要都是在跟電音的圖，並且由我幫他試圖，結果就是我完全不知道他的圖譜在跟什麼聲音，玩到一半才知道他是跟電音
失去重音的圖，沒有主軸、沒有核心、更沒有靈魂，你只要是沒有把核心作出來，你這張圖就沒有任何參考的價值

物件相疊的情形，是BAT(BN)在審核我圖的時後告訴我的，疊在一起會造成讀譜的問題，也是影響玩家想玩你那張圖的原因
箭頭為什麼不能遮起來，這是Osu! Mapping現有的規定，大家都是這麼走的，你不想改就是違規
Breaktime中間那個聲音，是完全沒辦法用BPM的分拍給呈現的，你和Chu都用1/4的連打，不僅沒任何意義，我還不知道你們在做什麼
我給空出Space的Mod，最主要的原因就是這句話：「並不是將所有格子都照著1/4、1/6、1/8都給他填起來就叫作Extra，適度的把空間呈現出來，玩起來會更愉快」
你把物件都填滿了整首歌，請問你想怎麼用這些都擠在一起的物件強調你所想要呈現的主軸，空出Space的原因就是可以作出分段，改變你想強調的主軸
比方我A段要跟歌詞，到了B段沒歌詞，我用個Space改變我跟的主軸換成跟鼓或是其他樂器，這不是很基礎的東西嗎??

像你這首歌就是一張可以作得很好玩的圖譜，我跟你說些建議(黑色) ，你不採納我無解
紅色的改了我也就沒話說，我作圖作了兩年多了，第一次有人撞違規還要跟我說理的
Mapper世界這裡是以經驗為主，你以為你自己是誰??

最後，我花了好幾個小時幫你把圖全部看過，你給我的回答是這樣，我也就不期待給我的Mod會有什麼好結果
你就自己活在夢裡面吧

希望你的Mapping可以比我更持久，由衷祝福你

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-03-07T18:44:01+00:00

求個上進求個解釋能搞到這樣我很抱歉
我還是會繼續做下去你覺得我撞我反對大概是沒錯
時間會推移人會進步自然會有去留
沒必要把火氣升上這裡來
你有看法我有想法兩者不同是一定的
不用太為此動肝火
我是直了點衝了點但沒有要對撞規則的本意
只是想進一步瞭解更深的道理
你肯回答我我也會抱著感謝的心情
至於後續的部分我會努力的

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Xinchii 2015-03-07T19:29:02+00:00

我只是想到剛剛有看下這張所以來路過的 , 結果在吵架喔= =

既然M大你都在mod裡面提我的ID惹 , 就讓我說點話吧
當我是在說夢話之類的也可以 , 但是希望可以平靜的看下.........

文長內收不傷眼

總之先不要這麼衝了

就算是mapping的新手也是有自己對音樂的一個看法 , 會想用自己的方式去詮釋一首音樂
雖然論經驗和知識一定是比較老的mapper懂得多 , 但是也先不要因為自己的經驗比較多就用強硬作法去要求別人修改了
如果你有你的想法 , 提出來告知mapper , 解釋下為什麼mapper需要修改這些地方
用引導式的方式領導新人不好嗎 ?

你也不希望你的老師是那種"反正這題答案就是A , 記住就對了"的類型吧?

再來以mod來說 , 觀察map然後了解mapper的想法 , 再根據mapper的Style去進行mod
接不接受是mapper該作的事 , 要把一張圖帶到什麼高度也是mapper自己的自由
modder只不過是提供幫助的人罷了

上面那串是我N年前看到哪個BAT寫的文 , 雖然我忘記是誰了
但是我也覺得這才是modder的本質

如果你真的覺得時麼地方需要改善但是與mapper的想法牴觸 , 我覺得溝通會是比較好的辦法
每一條mod你應該也是有某種想法才提出來的吧 , 就解釋一下你的概念給mapper知道就好了
如果你的概念真的正確 , mapper也不是這麼鐵齒的人
就算真的違規不修 , 後來的人看到也會給予提醒的

在一次一次的mod跟修改中找到經驗 , 讓圖更加進化 , 帶領新手脫新之類的
我覺得這比較接近mod制度想帶來的原意

所以說"如果你再怎樣做接下來一定會撞上牆" 緊告式的威脅也別用了吧
跟國中/高中老師說 "如果你沒考上公立高中/大學會人生毀滅" 這種話幾乎沒什麼不一樣

最後

我不覺得BN講的話就是硬死死的鐵律。

我個人認知的Rule就只有這些

BN也是有喜好 , 也是會用自身經驗來建議你的圖
就算現在是BN給了一個大紅字的意見 , mapper覺得不想改也是可以和BN商量找出最適合的路的
(尤其現在是只要活躍度夠 , 連我都能上BN的時代 zz)

好沒惹我說完惹

我知道你也是認真看認真提意見的
但是關於做法我還是希望你可以真的看一下.......

雖然我混map應該更久 , 但map還是依舊渣
不過好歹還是Rank過

總歸一句我覺得
map就只會是mapper的財產

就算現在BN QAT天神老爺通通出來指著mapper說錯 , mapper不爽還是能不改
大不了不Rank

Ranked不是mapping唯一可以得到的收穫

況且我覺得GX大事事求是不囫圇吞棗的觀念很好阿..........

抱歉占用了一格post

DreaM117er

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DreaM117er 2015-03-07T19:56:54+00:00

Xinchii wrote:
我只是想到剛剛有看下這張所以來路過的 , 結果在吵架喔= =

既然M大你都在mod裡面提我的ID惹 , 就讓我說點話吧
當我是在說Pˋ話也可以 , 但是希望可以平靜的看下.........

文長內收不傷眼
總之先不要這麼衝了

就算是mapping的新手也是有自己對音樂的一個看法 , 會想用自己的方式去詮釋一首音樂
雖然論經驗和知識一定是比較老的mapper懂得多 , 但是也先不要因為自己的經驗比較多就用強硬作法去要求別人修改了
如果你有你的想法 , 提出來告知mapper , 解釋下為什麼mapper需要修改這些地方
用引導式的方式領導新人不好嗎 ?

你也不希望你的老師是那種"反正這題答案就是A , 記住就對了"的類型吧?

再來以mod來說 , 觀察map然後了解mapper的想法 , 再根據mapper的Style去進行mod
接不接受是mapper該作的事 , 要把一張圖帶到什麼高度也是mapper自己的自由
modder只不過是提供幫助的人罷了

上面那串是我N年前看到哪個BAT寫的文 , 雖然我忘記是誰了
但是我也覺得這才是modder的本質

如果你真的覺得時麼地方需要改善但是與mapper的想法牴觸 , 我覺得溝通會是比較好的辦法
每一條mod你應該也是有某種想法才提出來的吧 , 就解釋一下你的概念給mapper知道就好了
如果你的概念真的正確 , mapper也不是這麼鐵齒的人
就算真的違規不修 , 後來的人看到也會給予提醒的

在一次一次的mod跟修改中找到經驗 , 讓圖更加進化 , 帶領新手脫新之類的
我覺得這比較接近mod制度想帶來的原意

所以說"如果你再怎樣做接下來一定會撞上牆" 緊告式的威脅也別用了吧
跟國中/高中老師說 "如果你沒考上公立高中/大學會人生毀滅" 這種話幾乎沒什麼不一樣

最後

我覺得不是BN講的話就是硬死死的鐵律。

我個人認知的Rule就只有這些

BN也是有喜好 , 也是會用自身經驗來建議你的圖
就算現在是BN給了一個大紅字的意見 , mapper覺得不想改也是可以和BN商量找出最適合的路的
(尤其現在是只要活躍度夠 , 連我都能上BN的時代 zz)

好沒惹我說完惹

雖然我混map應該更久 , 但map還是依舊渣
不過好歹還是Rank過

總歸一句我覺得
map就只會是mapper的財產

就算現在BN QAT天神老爺通通出來指著他說錯 , mapper不爽還是能不改
大不了不Rank

Ranked不是mapping唯一可以得到的收穫

況且我覺得GX事事求是不囫圇吞棗的觀念很好阿..........

抱歉占用了一格post

說的有理，或許是我對新手太嚴苛了
我的Mapping路就是這樣走來的……
或許我該改一下對新手的態度

話說星祈每次都在我衝過頭的時候跑來，謝謝你

送你愛心～啾咪

@GX
好吧，我又衝過頭了
因為我是真的一分一秒的每個小細節都會去注意的人
我花太多時間在你的圖上了，可能已經火了也不一定

這次是大家都被對方惹火了我就不去計較
就算我頭上好了，歡迎有問題再來找我

Mod方式這點我會改，我超討厭像這樣會有找我理論的情況發生

那就不讓你跑來跟我理論就好，我理由會說的很清楚

最後，General，Normal請勿必修改，標紅字的確定是違規
物件貼在一起的部分也請務必修一下，為避免BN抓你，這是為你好

最後兩個難度就當作參考吧，不改就作罷

VINXIS

Featured Artist

3,161 posts

Joined April 2014

VINXIS 2015-03-13T17:04:53+00:00

omg

lestar

Raiden

osu! Alumni

2,419 posts

Joined January 2013

Raiden 2015-03-16T21:16:57+00:00

Hey! Raiden here from my mod queue. Here are some of my suggestions:

Easy

00:18:287 (2) - Add a Whistle hitsound

00:38:965 (4) - Whistle hitsound

Chu's Normal

Overall: Change AR to 6,0

00:21:761 (1) - Move spinner to 00:21:846 and remove one 1/4 tick, like this http://puu.sh/gCIiP.jpg

01:06:422 - Add a circle here

02:33:202 - Add a circle here

Hard

I really loved this diff so there isn't pretty much anything I'd change.
00:17:270 (7) - Add Whistle hitsound

01:07:439 (3,4,5) - Stack them a bit more together

01:48:287 (1,2,3) - The same C: (stack the triplet a bit more)

02:54:304 - Add a circle (Triplet-slider)

Chu's Insane

01:21:168 - Add a circle

01:32:693 - Add a circle

01:40:151 (4,5) - Move them to 01:40:066 in time and to (266,327) in position

02:00:659 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ??? Unnecesary stream (imo) Preferably 1 or 2 sliders with comebacks

02:38:456 (5) - Move somewhere near the next slider

VisioN

00:21:563 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Modify, 1/3 is unnecessary overmapping (imo). Make it 1/2

00:23:371 (2,3) - Add a circle between 2 and 3

00:24:219 (4,5) - Add a circle between 4 and 5

00:40:405 (4) - Add a note (triplet-slider)

00:43:032 (2) - Add a circle

00:43:541 (4) - Add a circle

00:44:049 (6) - Add a circle

01:01:676 (4) - Turn it to a slider

01:01:846 (4) - move to 01:01:676 and add 1 comeback

01:15:236 (3,4,5,6) - 1/8 sliders?? Change to 1/4

01:16:931 (7,8) - Change 1/8 sliders to 1/4, it sounds better (imo)

01:17:948 (3) - Slider 1/8, change to 1/4 (imo)

01:21:168 (4) - Move from x:60 y:336 to x:280 y:300 (approx)

01:31:507 (5,6,7,8) - These 4 sliders can be changed in position (you can revert them to make the map a bit more aestethic)

01:32:863 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Stack the stream a bit more

01:34:219 (3) - Move from (488,312) tp (340,284)

01:43:032 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Stream instead of sliders+circles http://postimg.org/image/r7o4t25kn/

02:14:558 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 3 squares instead of 4 triangles (added difficulty)

02:46:592 (3) - move from (292,112), further away

02:48:117 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Change for a stream (?)

02:49:388 (2) - Move a bit to the left

03:06:083 - add a circle here

03:08:456 (1,2,3,4) - The 1/3 sounds about right, but they are too separated and the BPM is a bit high to singletap 1/3. Either do it 1/2 or stack the notes a bit more

Last edited by Raiden 2015-03-17T14:23:22+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Nerova Riuz GX

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Topic Starter

Nerova Riuz GX 2015-03-17T14:08:27+00:00

UPDATED!

Raiden wrote:
Hey! Raiden here from my mod queue. Here are some of my suggestions:

Easy:

00:18:287 (2) - Add a Whistle hitsound
that's quite strange
00:38:965 (4) - Whistle hitsound
strange, too

Hard:
I really loved this diff so there isn't pretty much anything I'd change.
00:17:270 (7) - Add Whistle hitsound
It will be better with no Whistle. It should not be used too much times
01:07:439 (3,4,5) - Stack them a bit more together
OK
01:48:287 (1,2,3) - The same C: (stack the triplet a bit more)
NICE
02:54:304 - Add a circle (Triplet-slider)
Nice triplet lol

VisioN:
00:21:563 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Modify, 1/3 is unnecessary overmapping (imo). Make it 1/2
Well I won't change it to 1/2 cuz there are no 1/2 sounds actually.
00:23:371 (2,3) - Add a circle between 2 and 3
00:24:219 (4,5) - Add a circle between 4 and 5
Uhh I think I have to explain why I delete the circles between them
It's 1/3 at first, but it change to 1/2 here. If I add a circle between 2 and 3, people will confused by the timing and hit them as 1/3 notes because they are on different beat, so for better translation, I delete them. The same problem between 4 and 5.

00:40:405 (4) - Add a note (triplet-slider)
00:43:032 (2) - Add a circle
00:43:541 (4) - Add a circle
00:44:049 (6) - Add a circle
That's......a little bit too hard in this part.

01:01:676 (4) - Turn it to a slider
01:01:846 (4) - move to 01:01:676 and add 1 comeback
Well I can't completely understand what you mean, but it does help for the arrangement.

01:15:236 (3,4,5,6) - 1/8 sliders?? Change to 1/4
01:16:931 (7,8) - Change 1/8 sliders to 1/4, it sounds better (imo)
01:17:948 (3) - Slider 1/8, change to 1/4 (imo)
That's not a bug, that's a characteristic

01:21:168 (4) - Move from x:60 y:336 to x:280 y:300 (approx)
Well I prefer a big jump, and also this is an extra diff

01:31:507 (5,6,7,8) - These 4 sliders can be changed in position (you can revert them to make the map a bit more aestethic)
haha I change their position for a little bit. BTW have you ever seen the Hollow Wings' diff in DJ TOTTO feat. Sunao Yoshikawa - Arousing?

01:32:863 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Stack the stream a bit more
Every long streams are put in this way. it's fine for me.

01:34:219 (3) - Move from (488,312) tp (340,284)
But If I do that, 01:34:727 (4) - will be blocked. Not a good idea.

01:43:032 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Stream instead of sliders+circles http://postimg.org/image/r7o4t25kn/
For better understanding about this arrangement, listen it in 50% or lower speed.

02:14:558 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 3 squares instead of 4 triangles (added difficulty)
They're better looking and listening in triangles actually. Well If I changed them into squares, the modders after this will told me to change them back.

02:46:592 (3) - move from (292,112), further away
I didn't change the position, but it mentioned me some of my mistakes.

02:48:117 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Change for a stream (?)
in same reason, I won't change it.

02:49:388 (2) - Move a bit to the left
Got it

03:06:083 - add a circle here
I just delete the notes here because of the mods before this

03:08:456 (1,2,3,4) - The 1/3 sounds about right, but they are too separated and the BPM is a bit high to singletap 1/3. Either do it 1/2 or stack the notes a bit more
That's not a single tap set actually. to show they are 1/3 notes, They should have more distance than 1/4 streams. and this is designed to use double fingers to pass this lol

arronchu1207

805 posts

Joined December 2012

arronchu1207 2015-03-20T13:25:42+00:00

Raiden

N

Overall: Change AR to 6,0 I change to 5.5

00:21:761 (1) - Move spinner to 00:21:846 and remove one 1/4 tick, like this http://puu.sh/gCIiP.jpg

01:06:422 - Add a circle here

02:33:202 - Add a circle here

I

01:21:168 - Add a circle k

01:32:693 - Add a circle

01:40:151 (4,5) - Move them to 01:40:066 in time and to (266,327) in position

02:00:659 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ??? Unnecesary stream (imo) Preferably 1 or 2 sliders with comebacks ok

02:38:456 (5) - Move somewhere near the next slider OK

Thanks

m1223961117

[Chu's Normal]
音效同你的Insane，請使用GX大的用一些進去了
00:21:676 (4,1) - 刪掉Spinner，把節奏都作出來 k
00:24:049 - 刪掉Finish k
00:33:032 (2) - 只是為放音效而放這個Circle是無意義的，你在跟什麼聲音?? 這裡有個跟 00:32:015 (6,1) 差不多的聲音，只是小了點，如果後面還有人說怪的話我再把他刪掉吧OAO
01:12:185 - 放這個怎麼樣?? http://puu.sh/gqeV4/3c0f69a0ab.jpg 應該可以>_>
01:21:168 (4) - 刪掉我覺得還好
01:21:846 (5) - 移到01:21:676 ，01:22:185 - 加Circle 好
01:23:710 (3,4) - 這樣的連點，用Slider呈現 OK
01:24:219 (5,6,7,8) - ^
01:44:049 (2,3) - ^
02:22:015 (1,2) - ^
02:26:422 (6) - 貼到血條了，違規往下移一點
02:27:439 (1,2,3) - 換成Slider OK
02:28:456 (4,5,6) - DS k
02:30:490 (1,2) - ^
02:33:710 - 聲音適從這裡開始的，這樣就節奏錯了改了
02:36:931 (3,4) - 換成Slider ok
02:42:524 (4,1) - ^
02:45:744 (4) - 刪掉Finish，無意義 ok
02:54:219 (2,3,4,5) - 換成Slider ok
02:57:270 (6,7) - ^
02:59:643 (4,5) - ^
03:04:388 (6,7) - DS
03:06:422 (2) - 快貼到血條了，往下拉

ok
03:12:863 - 刪掉Finish 好
03:13:880 (1,2,3) - 換成Sliderok
03:14:558 (4,5,6) - ^
03:15:914 (2,3,4,5) - ^

[Chu's Insane]
為什麼你沒有使用GX大的音效，比較好的說補了些

02:00:659 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 一樣同VersioN，換成像Normal的Slider 好
02:35:744 (4) - 這是故意沒疊好的嗎?? 其實我當初做這難度時覺得這樣好棒但是我現在回去看好醜
大大主要是音效有點詭異...

我有點懶得抓，建議音效使用GX大的，條完之後在去找下個Mod解決其實我也是因為懶得抓..都用預設的

非常感謝你的mod ;w;

Tarrasky

Chu's Normal

if the difficulty is less than 2.25 it will become officially a Normal, the patterns are good for a Normal, missing only some fix
00:10:829 (1,2,3,4) - look if you like a reverse arrow in here https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2856296 Nice
00:29:304 (3) - hmm, maybe this can be a bit confuse, try this direction https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2856301 ok
00:38:965 - 2 sliders 1/1 and 1 circle sounds good I think no 030

01:03:710 (1,2,3,4) - this can be deleted and start a spin in 01:03:710 - until 01:06:083 and add a circle in 01:06:422 (1) - x:256 y:180
01:14:558 (4) - add NC ok
01:23:371 - maybe this can be more easy from Normal https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2856329 I changed 3,4,5,6 all to sliders
01:27:439 (5,6) - change from a slider, like 01:27:778 (7) - ok
03:13:880 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - try this, more easy from Normal https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2856343
03:15:236 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - you can delete this and add a Spin here https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2856351

Chu's Insane

Nice map, congrats
but have a little problem:
Im not sufe if currently the slider of a speed may be slower than its lower difficulty
Hard= 1,5x speed Chu's Insane=1,2x speed
Maybe it was removed from the rank criteria, talk to some bn for details yes OMG >_>

Thank you

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tochiii

Elite Storyboarder

1,444 posts

Joined November 2013

tochiii 2015-03-26T15:09:43+00:00

From my modding queue

General

Use a drum-hitnormal and drum-hitnormal2, this is a perfect one for it: http://puu.sh/gQlI4/28f36621a4.wav
Disable "Widescreen support" because u don't have any SB.

VisioN

00:12:072 (1) - Feels overmapped, and it sounds better with only a circle here 00:12:185 - like:
Image
00:17:609 (8) - NC here, 00:18:852 (2) - remove NC.
00:20:320 (7) - NC, 00:21:563 (1) - remove NC.
00:35:405 (6) - Fix blanket:
Image
01:03:032 (3) - Move to x:200 y:140?
00:54:558 (6,1) - Stack the sliderend properly. Disable grid snap to do it accurate.
01:08:287 (2,6) - Same as above ^ and i think that the slider is too curvy. Don't curve it too much unless it's a booty :^)
01:36:931 (8,4) - Stack properly.
02:50:490 (3) - Way tooo close to the sliders. Move it more away from them. And it plays awkward because there's a jump before it.
02:58:965 (1,2,3) - This is not 1/3. It's 1/4.
03:05:575 (8) - Do it like this. It plays weird when the slider starts on a red line:
Image
Do like this:

Chu's Insane

AR 8.5 instead?
01:04:049 (2,3) - Swap places, the flow is better like that, and not so circular.
01:11:846 (1) - This should end at 01:12:354 - Do Ctrl + Shift + S to shorten it.
01:18:795 (1) - Too close to 01:18:287 (5) - It's easy to get confused, and the DS here 01:18:795 (1,2,3,4) - is the same as 01:18:287 (5,1) - even tho it's not the same rhythm. Please do something like:
Image
01:21:846 (6,1) - Stack 01:22:693 (1) 's head properly with 01:21:846 (6) 's tail. Disable grid snap to do it accurate.
01:35:744 (1) - No need to NC.
02:00:659 (1) - Make it more symmetrical like:
Image
Make the Grid size bigger to make it easier.
02:22:015 (4,5) - Ctrl + G.
02:39:388 (1,2) - Make this like:
Image
For more comfortable tapping.
03:13:541 (4) - It should be same DS from 03:13:541 (4) - to 03:13:880 (1) - and from 03:12:863 (3) - to 03:13:541 (4) - so 03:13:541 (4) - should be here x:332 y:28.

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Nerova Riuz GX 2015-03-26T16:33:34+00:00

Nice one
but a big exam is coming
I'm going to reply the mod after it
sorry

gorgonzoler

104 posts

Joined March 2013

gorgonzoler 2015-03-28T14:02:30+00:00

额，来观摩高手的图来了……
总之这样复杂的排版让我感觉不好改的样子。观摩后也不知道怎么改，觉得一切okay
不过电音真的很赞。有机会的话也给我推荐类似这样的曲子吧。
本来抱着special NM的心来却被吓跑了))))))))(>_<)

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Nerova Riuz GX 2015-03-28T18:06:31+00:00

gorgonzoler wrote:
额，来观摩高手的图来了……
总之这样复杂的排版让我感觉不好改的样子。观摩后也不知道怎么改，觉得一切okay
不过电音真的很赞。有机会的话也给我推荐类似这样的曲子吧。
本来抱着special NM的心来却被吓跑了))))))))(>_<)

盡量下手沒關係的
如果想mod的話也可以試試剛加入的A's Sight
推薦的話, Monster Cat有獨立一種genre叫Future Bass
裡面不少這種曲風個人喜歡的是Kevin Villecco & Sushi Killer - Anime Bae
下次有機會也多試試看下點手，多多少少也會有幫助的((不論是對誰都一樣
…還有我這種程度可稱不上是高手啊qwq

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Nerova Riuz GX 2015-04-02T13:54:53+00:00

UPDATED!
Will do a hitsounds check of VisioN diff later

-Tochi I luv your mod <3

-Tochi wrote:
From my modding queue

General
Use a drum-hitnormal and drum-hitnormal2, this is a perfect one for it: http://puu.sh/gQlI4/28f36621a4.wav
Nice hitsound, I love it
Disable "Widescreen support" because u don't have any SB.
Got it

VisioN
00:12:072 (1) - Feels overmapped, and it sounds better with only a circle here 00:12:185 - like:
Image
My personal opinion, there's a 1/3 sound in 00:12:072 - and I want to add something there.
But add a circle in 00:12:185 - is a good idea. I replace the slider with two circles.
.
00:17:609 (8) - NC here, 00:18:852 (2) - remove NC.
00:20:320 (7) - NC, 00:21:563 (1) - remove NC.
fix NCs.
.
00:35:405 (6) - Fix blanket:
Image
haha it's not a blanket at the beginning
but blanket is a good choice so it's a blanket now
.
01:03:032 (3) - Move to x:200 y:140?
for a blanket, right? I prefer x=200 y=144
.
00:54:558 (6,1) - Stack the sliderend properly. Disable grid snap to do it accurate.
In my computer they seem pretty good. Is that Stack Leniency problem?
.
01:08:287 (2,6) - Same as above ^ and i think that the slider is too curvy. Don't curve it too much unless it's a booty :^)
fixed :^)
.
01:36:931 (8,4) - Stack properly.
OK!
.
02:50:490 (3) - Way tooo close to the sliders. Move it more away from them. And it plays awkward because there's a jump before it.
Add more distance on it. Well that's a nice part for practicing speed control lol
.
02:58:965 (1,2,3) - This is not 1/3. It's 1/4.
AWWW, THAT'S DEFINITELY 1/3. The 1/3 pattern shouldn't be changed.
.
03:05:575 (8) - Do it like this. It plays weird when the slider starts on a red line:
Image
Do like this:

slider shouldn't ends on 03:05:914 - , it is quite strange
So I use a longer slider

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-04-04T16:15:10+00:00

I forgot to give you the new diff after the mod, so here it is:

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Sushi Killer - Zora.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 66422
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 121168,121761,122270,122778,123287,123795,124304,124812,125320,125829,126168,126676,127185,127693,128202,128710,129219,129727,130236,130744,131168,142354,153214
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 12
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 3.2

[Metadata]
Title:Zora
TitleUnicode:Zora
Artist:Sushi Killer
ArtistUnicode:Sushi Killer
Creator:Nerova Riuz GX
Version:A's Sight
Source:
Tags:mashup arronchu1207 Avishay
BeatmapID:669070
BeatmapSetID:205107

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8.5
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Zora_BG.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,110012,120059
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Ranger

939 posts

Joined June 2011

Ranger 2015-04-07T14:11:09+00:00

halo

[General]

consider change BG size 1024*768 or 1366*768

[Easy]

01:22:693 (4) - add NC here. i feel suddenly combo become longer
01:41:676 (5) - same above
02:38:626 (1) - add finish at front? now little empty i think
02:41:338 (5) - add NC here. same reason above
02:49:473 (4) - ^
03:08:456 (5) - ^
03:16:253 (4,1) - well, just suggestion. how about like this? by learning overlap note, emphasis last NC note
Box

[Chu's Normal]

mapping guide recommend set the overall difficulty 4~5. consider this

00:23:032 (7) - maybe you forget add finish here
00:29:304 (3) - put up repeat spot a little. some people follow repeat even if short slider. if you fix this. more playable for that player
Box
01:43:032 (1,3) - swap the NC and swap NC 01:45:744 (1,3) this part too. maybe it's right. one is sure, now little wrong.
02:20:998 (2) - how about add whistle here?

[Hard]

now same AR to insane. consider set the 7~7.5

00:55:914 (1) - i think this NC unnecessary. because no jump, no change speed.
01:03:710 (8,1,2,3) - try to put the other side. now little boring
01:06:761 (1) - same 00:55:914 (1). recommend not abuse NC.
01:16:422 (7) - now touch a 01:15:914 (6) little. consider separate a little
02:30:490 (2,3,4,5) - same 01:03:710 (8,1,2,3)
02:45:744 (6) - hmm,how about like this?

[Chu's Insane]

mapping guide recommend set the HP drain rate 6~8. consider this
same OD to hard. consider improve some

00:08:117 (1) - how about make 1/4 slider (start blue tick) this note? it's more match the music i think
00:10:829 (1) - ^
01:44:219 - add circle here?

pretty nice

[A's Sight]

00:09:812 (3,4) - unnecessary finish sound i think
00:17:948 (4,5) - ^
00:31:507 (3) - recommend add NC here
01:11:846 (6) - ^
01:32:863 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - lol, quite confusing @.@, change something else?

[VisioN]

only this diff have different audio lead-in

01:32:863 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - try to make more rounder

GL~

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Nerova Riuz GX 2015-04-07T15:51:19+00:00

Oh snap, I didn't see the GD update
my fault.

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-04-08T08:06:56+00:00

Ranger wrote:
halo

[A's Sight]

00:09:812 (3,4) - unnecessary finish sound i think Replaced with claps
00:17:948 (4,5) - ^ ^
00:31:507 (3) - recommend add NC here V (tho I had it there before but Riuz forgot to update the map..)
01:11:846 (6) - ^ V
01:32:863 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - lol, quite confusing @.@, change something else? A bit hard to aim and read but it perfectly fine :3
GL~

Thank you

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Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-04-08T08:09:31+00:00

This time I'll remember to update the guest diff when I get home!!!

EDIT:
UPDATED!!
Also I fix the BG problem

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-04-08T15:40:50+00:00

UPDATED!
Still have some problem :C

Ranger wrote:
halo halo

[General]

consider change BG size 1024*768 or 1366*768
BG fixed. Thanks!
[Easy]

01:22:693 (4) - add NC here. i feel suddenly combo become longer good
01:41:676 (5) - same above ^
02:38:626 (1) - add finish at front? now little empty i think Hitsounds are just small decoration, no need to add more
02:41:338 (5) - add NC here. same reason above okay
02:49:473 (4) - ^ ^
03:08:456 (5) - ^ Wow I didn't notice those NCs before
03:16:253 (4,1) - well, just suggestion. how about like this? by learning overlap note, emphasis last NC note GOOOOD
Box
[Hard]

now same AR to insane. consider set the 7~7.5 I changed it to 7.5

00:55:914 (1) - i think this NC unnecessary. because no jump, no change speed. OKAY
01:03:710 (8,1,2,3) - try to put the other side. now little boring I considered to change them few times, but I think this is better now
01:06:761 (1) - same 00:55:914 (1). recommend not abuse NC. YES
01:16:422 (7) - now touch a 01:15:914 (6) little. consider separate a little fixed. Now they're a blanket
02:30:490 (2,3,4,5) - same 01:03:710 (8,1,2,3) Still the same reason
02:45:744 (6) - hmm,how about like this? slightly changed, I want to keep the overlap
[VisioN]

only this diff have different audio lead-in
I'm testing the better audio lead-in cuz I think 0 is not a good one
I'll change them into the same setting later

01:32:863 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - try to make more rounderNow it's a truly ROUND
GL~ thanks~

nooblet

630 posts

Joined December 2011

nooblet 2015-04-12T08:36:31+00:00

[VisioN]
In general, the spacing seems a bit random. Try cleaning up the spaces for consistency, use distance snap where necessary

Spacing up until 00:23:032 (1) - is inconsistent with the SV, circles are far apart and sliders are very slow, would consider using 1x~2x spacing instead of 2x~3x. Why does the intro have bigger spacing than the next section (23~44 seconds)? It should increase as more is added to the song.
- 00:09:021 (5,6) - Too far apart with no musical emphasis
- 00:13:428 (4,5) - ^
- 00:18:852 (1,2) - ^
- 00:21:563 (1,2) - ^ this one especially
00:31:846 (2,4,6) - NC
00:47:100 (3,4,1) - too close, there's a huge sudden slow down in flow
00:51:337 (6) - too far (3.25), nothing in music to emphasize
00:57:609 (1) - 00:58:117 (2) - Ctrl+G, less sudden jump and better flow
01:30:659 (2,3) - too close
01:37:609 (2,3) - add note between at 1:37:778, no reason for break
02:05:066 (3) - NC
02:05:575 (5) - why not continue 02:04:558 (1,2,3,4) - ?
02:08:965 (3,5) - NC
02:14:049 (8) - huge space (4.0) on a minor note, the main beat is in the middle of the slider. Try something like this

this

02:48:117 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - too big for this difficulty
02:50:490 (3,5,7) - NC

[A's Sight]
Interesting map, sometimes a little too interesting though XD
You don't need NC on every slider in Kiai even with the SV change imo. Too many 1-note NC

01:12:524 (3) - NC
01:13:202 (1) - remove NC
01:16:422 (4) - not sure if this kind of slider is ok
01:16:931 (1) - remove NC
01:25:066 (7) - move away from 01:24:897 (6) - a bit so they don't overlap
01:30:829 (6) - NC
01:32:863 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - unreadable and unpredictable
01:32:863 (3) - NC
02:01:168 (1,1) - etc. should remove slider tick hitsound, or else it ruins your plan of silencing the sliders.
02:35:575 (1,2,3) - confusing, same spacing as 1/4
02:39:643 (1) - remove NC
02:40:490 (1) - remove NC
02:41:846 (1) - remove NC
02:52:524 (1) - remove NC

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Topic Starter

Nerova Riuz GX 2015-04-12T09:29:30+00:00

UPDATED!

nooblet wrote:
[VisioN]
In general, the spacing seems a bit random. Try cleaning up the spaces for consistency, use distance snap where necessary
I DID THAT ON PURPOSE HAHAHAHAHA (evil smile)
Spacing up until 00:23:032 (1) - is inconsistent with the SV, circles are far apart and sliders are very slow, would consider using 1x~2x spacing instead of 2x~3x. Why does the intro have bigger spacing than the next section (23~44 seconds)? It should increase as more is added to the song.
I use slow SV because I want to let the cursor can finish most of the sliders without any move.
Due to 1/3 notes, the spacing has to be different, and it also make this as a single tap challenge.

- 00:09:021 (5,6) - Too far apart with no musical emphasis slightly fixed
- 00:13:428 (4,5) - ^nope
- 00:18:852 (1,2) - ^nope
- 00:21:563 (1,2) - ^ this one especially slightly fixed
00:31:846 (2,4,6) - NC OK
00:47:100 (3,4,1) - too close, there's a huge sudden slow down in flow Fixed! I forgot this, thanks
00:51:337 (6) - too far (3.25), nothing in music to emphasize Not really. between 5 and 1, I decide to make it a little bit closer to 1
00:57:609 (1) - 00:58:117 (2) - Ctrl+G, less sudden jump and better flow With some special reason, I won't change it
01:30:659 (2,3) - too close for emphasis. it can be done with a sudden break.
01:37:609 (2,3) - add note between at 1:37:778, no reason for break I just deleted this in mods before, now I'm gonna add it back
02:05:066 (3) - NC OK
02:05:575 (5) - why not continue 02:04:558 (1,2,3,4) - ? Nice one, I forgot to fix this when I finished.
02:08:965 (3,5) - NC Nice
02:14:049 (8) - huge space (4.0) on a minor note, the main beat is in the middle of the slider. Try something like this OK
this
02:48:117 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - too big for this difficulty Nah, It fits well
02:50:490 (3,5,7) - NC I NC the sliders

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-04-12T12:53:21+00:00

nooblet wrote:
[A's Sight]
Interesting map, sometimes a little too interesting though XD
You don't need NC on every slider in Kiai even with the SV change imo. Too many 1-note NC

01:12:524 (3) - NC V
01:13:202 (1) - remove NCV
01:16:422 (4) - not sure if this kind of slider is ok Why wouldn't it? I am 99% sure it is fine.
01:16:931 (1) - remove NC V
01:25:066 (7) - move away from 01:24:897 (6) - a bit so they don't overlap On purpose.
01:30:829 (6) - NC V
01:32:863 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - unreadable and unpredictable But I'll leave it as it is :3
01:32:863 (3) - NC It doesn't fit imo..
02:01:168 (1,1) - etc. should remove slider tick hitsound, or else it ruins your plan of silencing the sliders. I'll ask Nerova to do so, or I'll manually mute them later.
02:35:575 (1,2,3) - confusing, same spacing as 1/4 Changed.
02:39:643 (1) - remove NC
02:40:490 (1) - remove NC
02:41:846 (1) - remove NC
02:52:524 (1) - remove NC Nope to all of these ^ I do want to indicate SV changes.

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Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-04-12T13:44:55+00:00

UPDATED!

Now let's focus on the hitsound problem in A's Sight diff.
Well about slider tick, there's something written in osu!wiki:

osu!wiki wrote:
Finally, you cannot silence both slider ticks and slider slides together.

That's quite important.
I've already used silenced sliderslide.wav in this map, so I can't put a silenced slidertick.wav. Sorry for that.
Well but there's another way to solve this problem:
Change the Sample Volume to 5% before the slider ball touch the slider tick, then switch it back.
Though this way may be pretty boring and tiring, You can try this if you want.

but actually I want to re-add all hitsounds cuz some of them are pretty strange to me

makemek

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makemek 2015-04-14T18:16:15+00:00

From MakeMEK's Modding Queue

Hard
Please check AIMod. There is 1 unsnapped object.
Reduce slider speed that is 1.5x down to 1.35x. It's too fast imo.

Chu's Insane
01:11:846 (1) why this slide is slower than others ?. Compared with other similar rhythm (ex. 01:14:558 (1), 01:17:270 (1), 01:19:982 (1))
02:38:626 (1) ^. It doesn't have the same slider velocity as mentioned above too (0.75x, 0.6x)

A's Sight
Please check AIMod. There are 4 unsnapped objects

VisioN
Please check AIMod. There is 1 unsnapped object.

That's all I found. The rest is OK (diff < 4 stars). Note placement & combo colors

Nerova Riuz GX

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Nerova Riuz GX 2015-04-15T13:39:43+00:00

UPDATED!

makemek wrote:
From MakeMEK's Modding Queue

Hard
Please check AIMod. There is 1 unsnapped object.
Reduce slider speed that is 1.5x down to 1.35x. It's too fast imo. I think 1.5x fits well
VisioN
Please check AIMod. There is 1 unsnapped object.
That's all I found. The rest is OK (diff < 4 stars). Note placement & combo colors

Thanks!

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