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20:59 Kibbleru: ill take a quick look at ur maps q:
20:59 *Evilkazi is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/448131 Feint - Laurence]
20:59 *Evilkazi is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441837 Nogizaka46 - Tsuki No Okisa (Naruto Shippuuden Opening 14) (TV Size)]
20:59 Kibbleru: ok
20:59 Evilkazi: Thanks , Im bad ;-;
21:00 Kibbleru: first of all you should get rid of the (naruto shippuuden opening 14)
21:00 Kibbleru: in the title
21:00 Kibbleru: as i doubt it's actually part of the official title
21:00 Kibbleru: unless im wrong
21:00 Kibbleru: put that into the tags
21:00 Evilkazi: I don't know , ok
21:00 *Kibbleru is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/448131 Feint - Laurence [N'sane]]
21:01 Kibbleru: fk
21:03 Evilkazi: lol Im bad at streams , and in my maps too much streams
21:03 Evilkazi: too ironic
21:03 Kibbleru: 00:47:160 (6,1) - this blanket is off
21:03 Kibbleru: http://puu.sh/9Q1uf/deb4683023.jpg
21:03 Kibbleru: tbh most of ur streams are overmapped .-.
21:03 Evilkazi: should I remove it or ?
21:04 Kibbleru: u shouldn't put any streams unless you hear a stream pattern in the music.
21:04 Evilkazi: Thanks , honestly , I like ur feedback
21:04 Evilkazi: yea I think so
21:04 Kibbleru: 01:09:401 - sv change confused me a bit.
21:05 Kibbleru: there isn't anything noticeable enough in the music
21:05 Kibbleru: to indictate an sv change
21:05 Kibbleru: 01:10:780 - ^
21:05 Kibbleru: 01:13:022 - you're undermapping notes now
21:05 Evilkazi: ok
21:05 Kibbleru: 01:13:539 -
21:05 Kibbleru: you shouldn't undermap anything especially since this is insane
21:06 Kibbleru: 01:14:228 -
21:06 Kibbleru: like
21:06 Kibbleru: all these sounds you're missing
21:06 Kibbleru: 01:15:522 - add note this should be a triplet
21:06 Evilkazi: yep
21:06 Kibbleru: 01:16:815 - should also be a triplet here
21:06 Kibbleru: listen to the music more closely xP
21:07 Kibbleru: 01:20:780 (7,2) - btw this can get kinda confusing
21:07 Evilkazi: yea
21:07 Kibbleru: maybe you can offset it a bit
21:07 Kibbleru: like
21:07 Kibbleru: something like this http://puu.sh/9Q1Mh/e253db9b97.jpg
21:07 Kibbleru: to make it more readable
21:08 Kibbleru: 01:25:608 (3,1) - ^
21:08 Evilkazi: yes this is right , I've seen too much people get confused of this
21:08 Kibbleru: yeah
21:08 Kibbleru: my biggest advice would just be
21:08 Kibbleru: listen to the song lol.
21:08 Kibbleru: or at least listen to it more closely
21:09 Evilkazi: yes that and my maps aren't organised
21:09 Evilkazi: I had trouble organising my map
21:09 Evilkazi: previous maps I mapped are really sh*it
21:09 Kibbleru: p/3202481/ this will help
21:10 Evilkazi: I will try to progress
21:10 Kibbleru: so will this t/86329
21:10 Kibbleru: also read the rhythm guide on garven's userpage https://osu.ppy.sh/u/Garven
21:10 Evilkazi: thanks kind sir !
21:10 *Kibbleru is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441837 Nogizaka46 - Tsuki No Okisa (Naruto Shippuuden Opening 14) (TV Size) [Insane]]
21:12 Kibbleru: yeah
21:12 Kibbleru: listen to the music more closely lol.
21:12 Evilkazi: yeah
21:13 Evilkazi: more coonfused to follow sound or voice ;-;
21:13 Kibbleru: follow both .-.
21:13 Kibbleru: not really too hard to do
21:13 Evilkazi: I'll fix the feint map for now
, you've been a huge help
21:14 Kibbleru: basically
21:14 Evilkazi: Ill read the guides also
21:14 Kibbleru: i think the problem you're having
21:14 Kibbleru: is you're putting too many 1/1 sliders
21:14 Kibbleru: like these http://puu.sh/9Q2dn/45d7e4d974.jpg
21:14 Kibbleru: well too many long sliders in general
21:14 Kibbleru: when you put long sliders, be sure that you're not actually missing a beat in the process
21:15 Evilkazi: lol
21:15 Kibbleru: also
21:15 Kibbleru: for both the songs
21:15 Kibbleru: use tickrate 2
21:15 Evilkazi: ok
21:16 Evilkazi: the problem I has after I did the maps , the slider velocity were wrong ^^
21:16 Evilkazi: Ihad to fix the main SV
21:16 Kibbleru: u mean too low?
21:16 Kibbleru: set the slider velocity at the beginning
21:16 Evilkazi: for example
21:17 Evilkazi: on feint
21:17 Evilkazi: I was doing 1.4 SV
21:17 Kibbleru: thats a bit low for insane
21:17 Evilkazi: so I changed it back to 1.7
21:17 Kibbleru: here is my little SV key
21:17 Kibbleru: insane -> sv 1.7-2.0
21:17 Kibbleru: hard sv 1.4-1.6
21:18 Kibbleru: normal if im planning to map an easy diff i'd do like 1.0-1.2 ish
21:18 Evilkazi: okay
21:18 Evilkazi: noted
21:18 Kibbleru: if im not mapping an easy i will do 1.0 sv normal
21:18 Kibbleru: easy diff below 1.0
21:18 Evilkazi: I tried to map a hard diff
21:18 Evilkazi: I overmapped
21:18 Kibbleru: lol
21:18 Evilkazi: it was too funny
21:19 Kibbleru: xD
21:19 Kibbleru: also
21:19 Kibbleru: for
21:19 Evilkazi: I could only make ar 9 songs
21:19 Kibbleru: lol
21:19 Kibbleru: for diff settings if you need to know
21:19 Kibbleru: for both hp and od i usually do ar-1
21:19 Kibbleru: as in like if i have ar 9 i do hp 8 and od 8
21:19 Kibbleru: insane usually should use ar 8-10
21:19 Evilkazi: ah
21:19 Kibbleru: can go lower
21:19 Kibbleru: depends on the bpm of the song
21:20 Kibbleru: usually anything like
21:20 Kibbleru: 170 bpm above should have ar 9
21:20 Evilkazi: hp 8 and od 8 seems too hard
21:20 Kibbleru: well
21:20 Kibbleru: ah
21:20 Kibbleru: k
21:20 Evilkazi: the thing is that I dislike ar below 9
21:20 Kibbleru: usually i do 1 OR 2 below ar
21:20 Kibbleru: just around 1 or 2 below ar
21:20 Evilkazi: yes that's the thing
21:20 Kibbleru: don't want it too low
21:21 Evilkazi: you have ranked maps ?
21:21 Kibbleru: yeah
21:21 Kibbleru: also ur avatar is scaring the shet out of me ;w;
21:21 Evilkazi: cool Ill check them right away
21:21 Evilkazi: haha sorry
21:22 Evilkazi: Congratz you have 3 ranked maps , that's good
21:22 Kibbleru: aha ty xD
21:22 Evilkazi: If I only get 1 map ranked I'll dismiss from mapping :p
21:22 Evilkazi: this is killing me :3
21:23 Kibbleru: LOL
21:23 Kibbleru: well thats no fun
21:23 Kibbleru: u gotta show the world ur mapping skills
21:24 Evilkazi: Haha , but , I know that I don't have skills
21:24 Evilkazi: that's why I want to get away of this
21:24 Kibbleru: well u have skills if you get ur first ranked map :p
21:24 Evilkazi: ;-;
21:24 Kibbleru: why is it like a life goal of urs 2 get a ranked map xD?
21:25 Evilkazi: because I did some efforts I don't want to quit easily xD
21:25 Kibbleru: lol
21:25 Kibbleru: go big or go home owo
21:26 Evilkazi: yep
21:26 Kibbleru: if you're gunna start mapping go and get 20 ranked maps!
21:26 Kibbleru: \:D/
21:26 Kibbleru: then u can quit as a legend
21:26 Evilkazi: yes we will see
21:26 Evilkazi: or maybe
21:26 Evilkazi: Ill map like a crazy
21:26 Kibbleru: cuz i mean
21:26 Kibbleru: if you get good enough to have a ranked map
21:26 Evilkazi: like CRN maps
21:26 Kibbleru: waste to stop mapping right?
21:27 Evilkazi: yes right
21:27 Evilkazi: haha there is another problem , I don't find songs to map
21:27 Evilkazi: I begun mapping some songs , and stopped at the half
21:27 Evilkazi: because they are boring
21:28 Kibbleru: ah
21:28 Kibbleru: u gotta find something fun to map then!
21:28 Kibbleru: like with lots of rhythm varieties
21:28 Evilkazi: this
21:28 Kibbleru: well
21:28 Kibbleru: i can tell u one thing tho
21:28 Kibbleru: DONT map this song
21:28 *Kibbleru is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/446346 Kuribayashi Minami - Tsubasa wa Pleasure Line [Insane]]
21:29 Kibbleru: its the same shet over and over ;w;
21:29 Evilkazi: lol
21:29 Evilkazi: this feint song man , It is repetitive , I cut it
21:30 Kibbleru: LOL
21:30 Evilkazi: Im gonna start doing what you said earlier
21:30 Kibbleru: o-o
21:30 Kibbleru: what did i say xD?
21:31 Evilkazi: I still didn't understand what you meant here http://puu.sh/9Q1uf/deb4683023.jpg
21:31 Evilkazi: forgive my English skills
21:31 Kibbleru: oh i just meant place it like that
21:31 Kibbleru: looks better
21:32 Evilkazi: yosh !
21:36 Evilkazi: Im a copycat , I hate this , Why Im undermapping I saw some maps that undermap
21:37 Kibbleru: wow
21:37 Kibbleru: pls
21:37 Kibbleru: don't unless you know what you're doing
21:39 Evilkazi: Yes I tought Im vipto fora sec
21:39 Evilkazi: o3o
21:42 Evilkazi: can I give you a kudosu without you commenting on the forum ?
21:42 Kibbleru: no
21:42 Kibbleru: i can post this tho
21:42 Kibbleru: the log
20:59 *Evilkazi is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/448131 Feint - Laurence]
20:59 *Evilkazi is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441837 Nogizaka46 - Tsuki No Okisa (Naruto Shippuuden Opening 14) (TV Size)]
20:59 Kibbleru: ok
20:59 Evilkazi: Thanks , Im bad ;-;
21:00 Kibbleru: first of all you should get rid of the (naruto shippuuden opening 14)
21:00 Kibbleru: in the title
21:00 Kibbleru: as i doubt it's actually part of the official title
21:00 Kibbleru: unless im wrong
21:00 Kibbleru: put that into the tags
21:00 Evilkazi: I don't know , ok
21:00 *Kibbleru is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/448131 Feint - Laurence [N'sane]]
21:01 Kibbleru: fk
21:03 Evilkazi: lol Im bad at streams , and in my maps too much streams
21:03 Evilkazi: too ironic
21:03 Kibbleru: 00:47:160 (6,1) - this blanket is off
21:03 Kibbleru: http://puu.sh/9Q1uf/deb4683023.jpg
21:03 Kibbleru: tbh most of ur streams are overmapped .-.
21:03 Evilkazi: should I remove it or ?
21:04 Kibbleru: u shouldn't put any streams unless you hear a stream pattern in the music.
21:04 Evilkazi: Thanks , honestly , I like ur feedback
21:04 Evilkazi: yea I think so
21:04 Kibbleru: 01:09:401 - sv change confused me a bit.
21:05 Kibbleru: there isn't anything noticeable enough in the music
21:05 Kibbleru: to indictate an sv change
21:05 Kibbleru: 01:10:780 - ^
21:05 Kibbleru: 01:13:022 - you're undermapping notes now
21:05 Evilkazi: ok
21:05 Kibbleru: 01:13:539 -
21:05 Kibbleru: you shouldn't undermap anything especially since this is insane
21:06 Kibbleru: 01:14:228 -
21:06 Kibbleru: like
21:06 Kibbleru: all these sounds you're missing
21:06 Kibbleru: 01:15:522 - add note this should be a triplet
21:06 Evilkazi: yep
21:06 Kibbleru: 01:16:815 - should also be a triplet here
21:06 Kibbleru: listen to the music more closely xP
21:07 Kibbleru: 01:20:780 (7,2) - btw this can get kinda confusing
21:07 Evilkazi: yea
21:07 Kibbleru: maybe you can offset it a bit
21:07 Kibbleru: like
21:07 Kibbleru: something like this http://puu.sh/9Q1Mh/e253db9b97.jpg
21:07 Kibbleru: to make it more readable
21:08 Kibbleru: 01:25:608 (3,1) - ^
21:08 Evilkazi: yes this is right , I've seen too much people get confused of this
21:08 Kibbleru: yeah
21:08 Kibbleru: my biggest advice would just be
21:08 Kibbleru: listen to the song lol.
21:08 Kibbleru: or at least listen to it more closely
21:09 Evilkazi: yes that and my maps aren't organised
21:09 Evilkazi: I had trouble organising my map
21:09 Evilkazi: previous maps I mapped are really sh*it
21:09 Kibbleru: p/3202481/ this will help
21:10 Evilkazi: I will try to progress
21:10 Kibbleru: so will this t/86329
21:10 Kibbleru: also read the rhythm guide on garven's userpage https://osu.ppy.sh/u/Garven
21:10 Evilkazi: thanks kind sir !
21:10 *Kibbleru is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441837 Nogizaka46 - Tsuki No Okisa (Naruto Shippuuden Opening 14) (TV Size) [Insane]]
21:12 Kibbleru: yeah
21:12 Kibbleru: listen to the music more closely lol.
21:12 Evilkazi: yeah
21:13 Evilkazi: more coonfused to follow sound or voice ;-;
21:13 Kibbleru: follow both .-.
21:13 Kibbleru: not really too hard to do
21:13 Evilkazi: I'll fix the feint map for now
, you've been a huge help 21:14 Kibbleru: basically
21:14 Evilkazi: Ill read the guides also
21:14 Kibbleru: i think the problem you're having
21:14 Kibbleru: is you're putting too many 1/1 sliders
21:14 Kibbleru: like these http://puu.sh/9Q2dn/45d7e4d974.jpg
21:14 Kibbleru: well too many long sliders in general
21:14 Kibbleru: when you put long sliders, be sure that you're not actually missing a beat in the process
21:15 Evilkazi:
lol 21:15 Kibbleru: also
21:15 Kibbleru: for both the songs
21:15 Kibbleru: use tickrate 2
21:15 Evilkazi: ok
21:16 Evilkazi: the problem I has after I did the maps , the slider velocity were wrong ^^
21:16 Evilkazi: Ihad to fix the main SV
21:16 Kibbleru: u mean too low?
21:16 Kibbleru: set the slider velocity at the beginning
21:16 Evilkazi: for example
21:17 Evilkazi: on feint
21:17 Evilkazi: I was doing 1.4 SV
21:17 Kibbleru: thats a bit low for insane
21:17 Evilkazi: so I changed it back to 1.7
21:17 Kibbleru: here is my little SV key
21:17 Kibbleru: insane -> sv 1.7-2.0
21:17 Kibbleru: hard sv 1.4-1.6
21:18 Kibbleru: normal if im planning to map an easy diff i'd do like 1.0-1.2 ish
21:18 Evilkazi: okay
21:18 Evilkazi: noted
21:18 Kibbleru: if im not mapping an easy i will do 1.0 sv normal
21:18 Kibbleru: easy diff below 1.0
21:18 Evilkazi: I tried to map a hard diff
21:18 Evilkazi: I overmapped
21:18 Kibbleru: lol
21:18 Evilkazi: it was too funny
21:19 Kibbleru: xD
21:19 Kibbleru: also
21:19 Kibbleru: for
21:19 Evilkazi: I could only make ar 9 songs
21:19 Kibbleru: lol
21:19 Kibbleru: for diff settings if you need to know
21:19 Kibbleru: for both hp and od i usually do ar-1
21:19 Kibbleru: as in like if i have ar 9 i do hp 8 and od 8
21:19 Kibbleru: insane usually should use ar 8-10
21:19 Evilkazi: ah
21:19 Kibbleru: can go lower
21:19 Kibbleru: depends on the bpm of the song
21:20 Kibbleru: usually anything like
21:20 Kibbleru: 170 bpm above should have ar 9
21:20 Evilkazi: hp 8 and od 8 seems too hard
21:20 Kibbleru: well
21:20 Kibbleru: ah
21:20 Kibbleru: k
21:20 Evilkazi: the thing is that I dislike ar below 9
21:20 Kibbleru: usually i do 1 OR 2 below ar
21:20 Kibbleru: just around 1 or 2 below ar
21:20 Evilkazi: yes that's the thing
21:20 Kibbleru: don't want it too low
21:21 Evilkazi: you have ranked maps ?
21:21 Kibbleru: yeah
21:21 Kibbleru: also ur avatar is scaring the shet out of me ;w;
21:21 Evilkazi: cool Ill check them right away
21:21 Evilkazi: haha sorry
21:22 Evilkazi: Congratz you have 3 ranked maps , that's good
21:22 Kibbleru: aha ty xD
21:22 Evilkazi: If I only get 1 map ranked I'll dismiss from mapping :p
21:22 Evilkazi: this is killing me :3
21:23 Kibbleru: LOL
21:23 Kibbleru: well thats no fun
21:23 Kibbleru: u gotta show the world ur mapping skills
21:24 Evilkazi: Haha , but , I know that I don't have skills
21:24 Evilkazi: that's why I want to get away of this
21:24 Kibbleru: well u have skills if you get ur first ranked map :p
21:24 Evilkazi: ;-;
21:24 Kibbleru: why is it like a life goal of urs 2 get a ranked map xD?
21:25 Evilkazi: because I did some efforts I don't want to quit easily xD
21:25 Kibbleru: lol
21:25 Kibbleru: go big or go home owo
21:26 Evilkazi: yep
21:26 Kibbleru: if you're gunna start mapping go and get 20 ranked maps!
21:26 Kibbleru: \:D/
21:26 Kibbleru: then u can quit as a legend
21:26 Evilkazi: yes we will see
21:26 Evilkazi: or maybe
21:26 Evilkazi: Ill map like a crazy
21:26 Kibbleru: cuz i mean
21:26 Kibbleru: if you get good enough to have a ranked map
21:26 Evilkazi: like CRN maps
21:26 Kibbleru: waste to stop mapping right?
21:27 Evilkazi: yes right
21:27 Evilkazi: haha there is another problem , I don't find songs to map
21:27 Evilkazi: I begun mapping some songs , and stopped at the half
21:27 Evilkazi: because they are boring
21:28 Kibbleru: ah
21:28 Kibbleru: u gotta find something fun to map then!
21:28 Kibbleru: like with lots of rhythm varieties
21:28 Evilkazi: this
21:28 Kibbleru: well
21:28 Kibbleru: i can tell u one thing tho
21:28 Kibbleru: DONT map this song
21:28 *Kibbleru is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/446346 Kuribayashi Minami - Tsubasa wa Pleasure Line [Insane]]
21:29 Kibbleru: its the same shet over and over ;w;
21:29 Evilkazi: lol
21:29 Evilkazi: this feint song man , It is repetitive , I cut it
21:30 Kibbleru: LOL
21:30 Evilkazi: Im gonna start doing what you said earlier
21:30 Kibbleru: o-o
21:30 Kibbleru: what did i say xD?
21:31 Evilkazi: I still didn't understand what you meant here http://puu.sh/9Q1uf/deb4683023.jpg
21:31 Evilkazi: forgive my English skills
21:31 Kibbleru: oh i just meant place it like that
21:31 Kibbleru: looks better
21:32 Evilkazi: yosh !
21:36 Evilkazi: Im a copycat , I hate this , Why Im undermapping I saw some maps that undermap
21:37 Kibbleru: wow
21:37 Kibbleru: pls
21:37 Kibbleru: don't unless you know what you're doing
21:39 Evilkazi: Yes I tought Im vipto fora sec
21:39 Evilkazi: o3o
21:42 Evilkazi: can I give you a kudosu without you commenting on the forum ?
21:42 Kibbleru: no
21:42 Kibbleru: i can post this tho
21:42 Kibbleru: the log
00:32:504 the slider is too fast, does not match the music (music is slow and relaxing, the slider like baaaaam)
01:25:953 the little "Stream" feels kinda strange, because there is a gap between the slider and the "Stream"
01:25:953 the little "Stream" feels kinda strange, because there is a gap between the slider and the "Stream"
LGV994
Here's my updated map!
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376,192,104918,6,2,P|352:128|288:72,1,140,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,56,105435,2,0,B|200:72|200:72|168:56|168:56|136:72|136:72|104:56|104:56,1,140
104,128,105953,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,107677,12,0,110435,0:0:0:0:
Did an IRC quickcheck, gave the usual slider advices.
log
02:22 Evilkazi: Hi zare you said last time that my map sucked , can you check this one I renewed it , Im still a beginner even doe trying to improve thanks
02:22 *Evilkazi is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/448131 Feint - Laurence]
02:26 *Zare is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/448131 Feint - Laurence [Insane]]
02:26 Zare: to be completely honest i dont remember this map so I'll just judge anew without bias
02:26 Evilkazi: I can't spec because I changed something here xD
02:27 Evilkazi: thanks for checking :3
02:29 Zare: Hm
02:29 Zare: still not a good map
02:29 Evilkazi: think fucked up on hitsounds
02:29 Evilkazi: what Im missing ? :d
02:29 Zare: but i guess I wouldnt go so far and call it downright bad
02:29 Evilkazi: thanks for honesty I like that
02:30 Zare: 00:45:263 (4) - this slider for instance
02:30 Zare: it has really strong hitsounds on the reverse arrow and the tail
02:30 Evilkazi: hmm what do I do to that slider
02:31 Zare: but you click it earlier
02:31 Evilkazi: ah right
02:31 Zare: you click on the head, which has less impact than the end of reverse
02:31 Zare: that feels awkward
02:31 Zare: also
02:31 Zare: 00:45:608 - 00:45:953 - and 00:46:297 - are part of that drumpattern
02:31 Evilkazi: yeah I think the hitsound isn't good for the map
02:32 Zare: it's not the hitsounds that are wrong
02:32 Zare: it's the slider placement
02:32 Zare: see you have that drumpattern of 3
02:32 Evilkazi: yea
02:32 Zare: but the first two beats are part of a slider , whereas the last beat is a circle
02:32 Zare: that divides them
02:33 Evilkazi: right
02:33 Zare: forces them to be viewed seperately when they're supposed to correlate
02:33 Zare: Now
02:33 Zare: 00:45:263 - you probably want a sldier here
02:33 Zare: for the violin
02:33 Zare: because that's also an important layer that can't just be ignored
02:33 Zare: you have 2 options
02:34 Zare: either use a circle here or a 1/2
02:34 Evilkazi: ok
02:34 Zare: in any case, you need 00:45:608 - the drumpattern that starts here to work seperately from the object mappen on the violin
02:35 Zare: 00:44:746 (3) - starting here
02:35 Zare: http://puu.sh/aNdzp/2dc81113c9.jpg
02:35 Zare: this would work
02:35 Evilkazi: ok
02:35 Zare: 00:46:987 - on this place
02:36 Zare: you have a dominant violin sound starting AND a strong drum
02:36 Zare: Instead of letting a slider END here
02:36 Zare: START one at this timestamp
02:36 Evilkazi: ok
02:37 Evilkazi: so I delete that slider and make a note
02:37 Evilkazi: or I shorten the slider
02:37 Zare: shorten it by 1/2
02:37 Zare: because it's also imprtant
02:37 Evilkazi: yeah you are right :)
02:38 Zare: then place a 1/1 slider and delete the note it would land on, that one's not dominant
02:38 Zare: 00:46:642 - so you get this http://puu.sh/aNdN7/e30155aca2.jpg
02:39 Evilkazi: ok ^^
02:39 Zare: now the key question is
02:39 Zare: do you understand the reasoning behind my advice
02:39 Zare: or do you just blindly apply shit
02:39 Evilkazi: yeah I understand you completly
02:40 Evilkazi: I do think you helped me enough
02:40 Evilkazi: and if you will mod
02:40 Zare: 00:48:022 (1) - same for this slider
02:40 Evilkazi: you will mod all the map like restarting it
02:40 Evilkazi: :d
02:40 Zare: 00:50:263 (1,2,3,4,1) - this is pretty good for example
02:40 Zare: 00:53:539 (4) - this isnt
02:41 Evilkazi: this one should me longer
02:42 Zare: 01:10:263 (4) - this one's also ending on a rather dominant beat, which isn't good
02:42 Evilkazi: I think I should more learn when to put a slider and a note lol
02:43 Zare: dominant beats or melody-sounds are the "start" of something in the music, be it a new measure or just a new chord or a single note
02:43 Zare: Don't put slider-"END"s on such "START"s in the music
02:43 Zare: that's basically it
02:43 Evilkazi: *_* thanks
02:44 Evilkazi: 00:53:539
02:44 Evilkazi: don't know what to do
02:45 Zare: http://puu.sh/aNefe/77323aa748.jpg
02:46 Zare: additionally, some other personal advice that other mappers might punch me for, so use on at your own risk
02:46 Zare: ending sliders on nothingness is fine
02:46 Zare: if the start is on a dominant beat but there isn't a sound before the next dominant beat
02:47 Zare: just end it before
02:47 Zare: that
02:47 Evilkazi: that actually what I was thinking last day , I wasn't sure about that as I saw some of this on some maps
02:48 Evilkazi: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/221011
02:48 Zare: it feels way more natural than forcing a slider to end on something in the music, causing it to swallow heavy notes that actually should get a circle or slider of their own
02:48 Evilkazi: IRC to give kudis
02:48 Evilkazi: yeah
02:49 Evilkazi: As I learnt today something , I should go and check some maps I already mapped
02:49 Zare: That kinda stuff should instead only be used for lower diffs that need compromisng to fit the layers you're mapping but not be too hard for their respective level
Topic Starter
Thanks For the good advices , Helped a lot
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