Fort wrote:

C

[Virtous]
pls use darker yellow cause this http://puu.sh/ayO4l/9a42fa8622.jpg (some slider pattern have reverse arrow in yellow colour, reverse arrow is hard to read) alright

00:14:750 (6,7) - try this pattern little bit consistant + good looking http://puu.sh/ayN9D/2cbbb381ef.jpg or http://puu.sh/ayNe0/5f97247eb3.jpg Didn't go along with your suggestions, but thanks for telling! I'm trying to change it just a bit.

00:43:611 (3) - so straight k. I'll just add a red anchor in there.

01:03:737 (1) - unecessary new combo, very strong suggestion to delete NC cause 00:48:168 (1) - That new combo was actually supposed to be for a previous sv change but I guess I forgot to remove the new combo when i removed the sv change.

01:20:636 (6,7) - nice and better flow i think http://puu.sh/ayKar/f5cbc0e569.jpg not fixed.

01:27:946 (3,4,5,1,2) - idk but i cant read it well with DT well that's your problem, sorry to say.

01:47:788 (3,4,5) - wrong pattern, this should be like this http://puu.sh/ayNJn/f86e7cdb06.jpg alright I see the wrong pattern there.

02:06:206 (5) - unconsistant distance + overlap, use 1.10x distance for this circle better (previous and next distance should be 1.10x) I changed it bit, so yeah.

02:14:560 (2) - nothing in here but are you sure for this jump? Yeah, so?

02:59:560 (1) - like this better i think http://puu.sh/ayNY2/1049851bb4.jpg I changed it a bit

03:37:535 (4,5) - try this http://puu.sh/ayOqT/981aaca274.jpg I changed it, a bit,

03:41:237 - i just want to know why you didnt put some circle in here I just didn't want to as that part didn't reach me as a place to put a circle.

05:11:997 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern very hard to read (especially in DT) please use consistant distance like this http://puu.sh/ayOeO/1ff957cc12.jpg I fixed it, in a different way.

okay, thats i get it, some hitsounds i hear is good, and some pattern is easy to hit with DT, but sometimes this map can be very hard cause so many trap in here if somebody play it with HD (HDDT harder lol)

okay see ya next time

ohad1881 wrote:

00:27:661-00:31:838 i think u should do new sliders and not copy paste. The part of this song here was repeated a second time, so I'm going with the thought of "similar slider-and-circle pattern" to fill in this part. Also, it's not bad of a copy paste if you do not copypaste an awfully large section. Not fixed.
01:21:775 do new combo for this 3 circles I don't think there is any need to new combo these three. But I'll keep that in mind and will ask on about this. Thanks for noting it down, but it's not fixed.
02:22:914 move it somewhere ...where? You have to specify a point on the map as an example, because this is actually fine as it is unless you specify where. I know some sort of overlapping issue, but I see that is quite a minor issue and need not be fixed.
02:23:104-02:24:224 i think u need to make some distance btw the sliders and put the circle btw them what. This could connect with the above suggestion. Plus, it would be the same answer anyway. THOUGH this had been a problem for a few people even though it's minor, so I'll ask on.
02:38:294 replace it with spin i think No, I kind of intended something that would slow down the cursor to act as a break, meaning nothing to make the hand work a lot, even if it's spinning.This slider is also for the hitsounding, if you can hear it properly. A spinner would not be able to this trick that only the slider can. But I'll ask on, so thanks for noting it down.
03:42:092 put snakeWhat. No, Using a "snake" would not hit the parts in the song that can be emphasized. Not fixed.

skinnyjimmy wrote:

Hello, here's the mod from my queue!

REALLY awesome background btw

[Virtuous]

00:42:851 (1,2) - The distance from 1's tail to 2 is slightly larger than the distance from 2 to 3, consider moving 2 just 1 tick up on the grid, that should fix it Alright, will do.

00:49:687 (3) - Try to angle this slider to blanket 1 a little better, here's an example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1904115 Eww.. um nevermind. It was intended to be like how it was, so not fixed.

00:58:421 (2) - I don't agree with the slider length here, I think it takes up to much time, you could put notes here, also i dont hear anything in the song that suggest a slider like that, the one you did with 00:59:560 (4) - is correct, so consider a pattern like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1904143 Yeah, so I did fix it a little, but not to your suggestion.

here are the coordinates for these notes if you want to use them: 2(68, 72) 3(84, 188) 4(164, 316) 5(212, 248)

01:13:611 (1) - The spinner starts to late here I think, you could move it to 01:13:326, if you do then you'd have to increase the length of the spinner It actually looks fine, because how I see it, the spinner starts spinning when that clap sound in the music starts.

01:28:801 (3,4,5) - Try to have equal distance here, same problem here as in 00:42:851 (1,2) - just a bit more noticeable, move 4 to 244, 240 Fixed it a little, thanks for pointing it out.

02:24:433 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - This pattern looks a little messy, consider something like this I fixed it, but not to your suggestion.
part 1 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1904183
part 2 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1904190

here are the coordinates for these notes: 6(338, 152) 7(160, 144) and of course 8 and 9 are the same as 7

02:51:965 (1) - Maybe you could make this slider have a unique shape, because it slows down quite a bit, maybe something like this
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1904204 I gave it another form of slider shape, to see how it works out.

Well that's it for my mod. Really well made map, and the song is very nice as well Thank you!

Hopefully this helped you a little bit! It really helped, thanks!

GL

Ain053 wrote:

General:
In general, the mapping style seems to be too repetitive. I personally would prefer to have a variety in the gameplay, past the first kiai. The best thing someone random in #modhelp suggested was to make a 3-tic repeat 1/4 slider in exchange of a 3-note stream.

The hitsounds are quiet, I think you should boost every volume in there by 10%.

05:13:611 (1), the length of it is pretty outstretched, I would suggest to shorten it by four beats or eight of 1/1--There's just no valuably fun reason for it to stretch until the song dies.

Guest Hitsound Entry

I mapped the hitsounds up to 2:00:889. In this file, I've raised every volume prior to 2:00:889 by 10% and made several minor tweak to the beatmap to fit the hitsounds, hope you enjoy it!

http://puu.sh/aKaQj/0dcbdb9163.rar

theramdans wrote:

definitely a random mod

00:18:547 (1,4,5) - stack them properly You explained it to me in-game, so fixed.

00:23:104 - NC
00:24:623 - NC I don't know, these three do not seem to deserve an NC each.
00:26:142 - NC

00:26:142 (7,8,9,10) - umm a square is too plain, maybe triangles? A triangle also looks plain here.
00:36:775 - use soft samples in this section? those normal whistles are kinda noisy alright.
00:41:997 - add a note here? fits the vocal line Yeah it does, but I don't want to map to the vocals here.
00:48:927 - you can revert to normal samples in this section again, if you changed to soft samples in the previous section already did, though.
00:54:054 - this can be a 1/4 triplet circles uh but idk Nahhh I'll keep it as it is.
01:01:079 (1,2,3,4) - I find these awkward Really? I don't feel like it is so.
01:13:421 - spinner starts here Hm...Hmm....HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM okay it really does start there.
01:18:927 (5,1) - stack 5's tails properly to 1 alright.
01:27:661 (3,4,5) - stack 3's tail properly to 4 and 5 K i did what I could.
01:35:066 (2) - improve blanket I did my best.
01:36:585 (5,6) - *little* blanket improvement here Seems quite fine, yep.
01:46:649 (2,1) - *tiny* blanket improvement here lol you and your "tinies". Nope seems fine.
02:00:604 (1,2) - ctrl + h to give some variety alright.
02:01:838 - another soft sample section here? Alright.
02:22:725 (3,4) - stack 3's tail properly to 4 Will not do for this one.
02:25:952 (9,1) - the jump is kinda sudden but maybe it is just me It's probably just you.
02:34:876 (6) - ctl + g maybe Nope.
02:36:585 (2,3) - improve blanket here Looks fine to me.
02:48:357 (2,4) - stack 2's tail properly to 4 Alright.
03:37:345 (3,5) - stack 3's tail properly to 5's head Alright
03:46:269 (2,3) - *little* blanket improvement here tiny.
04:46:649 (1,2) - *tiny* blanket improvement here, that is if you want, coz the slider is kinda hard too reshape I moved it around a little because the slider looked as if it started and ended on different levels.
04:48:168 - missing a note here? that finish in the background is kinda lonely I'm happy to say this was mapped to vocals, and there's nothing in the vocals to be mapped to.
05:10:383 - maybe replace this spinner with patterns, and place the spinner as a closing fade-out Nope, this one spinner is just like the previous patterns, so not changing.

suggestion : for hitsounds, maybe you can use the soft whistle instead of the normal whistle throughout the song I'll do something about that sooner or later.

1. Rhythm improvements
2. Removed overmapped patterns
3. Metadata changes
4. Some minor flow-changes
5. Diff settings improvements

11:40 -Bakari-: Hey!
11:40 N1ghtRabb1T: Hi Bakari
11:40 *-Bakari- is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/441664 SOUND HOLIC - Holly & Virtue [Virtuous]]
11:40 N1ghtRabb1T: :o
11:40 -Bakari-: Do you have some time for an IRC mod? :)
11:41 N1ghtRabb1T: yeah I guess so
11:41 -Bakari-: mkaaay, let's start with some general things, I guess
11:42 -Bakari-: Touhou should be moved to Source since it's the game where this song came from 
11:43 N1ghtRabb1T: oh yeah okay
11:43 -Bakari-: Also, you can give some lead-in to the song
11:43 -Bakari-: Just open your osu file and set lead in to 1500 or so
11:45 N1ghtRabb1T: what does lead-in do?
11:45 -Bakari-: adds a little time before the first circle appears
11:45 N1ghtRabb1T: ah 
11:46 -Bakari-: also, I believe that Lunatic would be a better name for the diff since it's a touhou-song and it's widely used for this kind of songs
11:46 -Bakari-: but, oh well, it's totally up to you
11:47 -Bakari-: also, please disable the widescreen support toggler. (song setup > storyboarding) 
11:47 N1ghtRabb1T: alright
11:48 -Bakari-: this thing is used for storyboards only, and you don't have one :P
11:49 -Bakari-: And it is impossible to find a 1024x768 version of your BG, right? 
11:49 N1ghtRabb1T: yes
11:50 -Bakari-: I quickly googled it hoping to find a better version, but I couldn't find anything better, so, yeah, BG should be fine 
11:50 -Bakari-: enough talking, let's move on to the diff itself 
11:51 -Bakari-: I would set OD to 7 and HP to 6,5 (or leave HP at 6) 
11:51 -Bakari-: OD8 for a marathon map is too much, I think + players get tired and can't keep their accuracy on a high level for so long. 
11:52 N1ghtRabb1T: okay
11:53 -Bakari-: 00:00:320 - I'd rather use soft sampleset here. the part is calm and doesn't ask for some heavy and strong hitsounds. 
11:54 -Bakari-: you can start using Normal sampleset 00:10:952 - at this point since this is the part where the beat changes
11:56 -Bakari-: 00:21:585 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - these two combos are kinda too long, so I'd place new combos at (5) or (7) 
11:57 -Bakari-: to be honest, I don't really like the fact that they are copypasted since it may get players bored. but it makes sense with the music, so you are free to keep it
11:58 N1ghtRabb1T: okay
12:00 -Bakari-: 00:35:541 (1) - a 3/4 beat right after the spinner feels unexpected and a bit tricky. moreover, it appears kinda too fast and players don't have enough time to recover. 
12:00 -Bakari-: try removing the spinner and mapping this part?
12:00 -Bakari-: here's a [http://puu.sh/aUzQn.jpg quick example] of the rhythm
12:02 -Bakari-: now a very important thing: 00:06:965 (3) - overmapping. 
12:02 -Bakari-: this slider is off music, we can clearly hear a beat at the red tick 00:07:155 - 
12:02 -Bakari-: but there is nothing in a blue tick
12:03 -Bakari-: therefore, your pattern sounds unnatural and is hard to play. I assume that you did it to make the map more interesting, but it is not really fun to play
12:04 N1ghtRabb1T: So a 1/2 slider would be fine, to hit the beat on the red tick?
12:04 -Bakari-: yes
12:05 -Bakari-: same applies for practically every 3/4 slider in the diff. it meas a lot of work for you, but it will significantly improve your rhythm
12:07 -Bakari-: 00:53:104 - 00:52:345 - both claps in the music and vocals are ignored here. the slidertick sound does not reflect them at all, which feels kinda unnatural while playing. 
12:08 -Bakari-: a simple pattern like [http://puu.sh/aUAg1.jpg this] would match better, imo
12:09 -Bakari-: 01:07:155 (1,2) - an example of correctly used 3/4 slider, this one is actually reasonable and was quite understandable when I tested it. 
12:10 -Bakari-: unlike 01:08:294 (4,1) - which is also has some weak rhythm.
12:11 -Bakari-: 01:10:952 (2) - make it end on the red tick, should fit better. 
12:11 -Bakari-: if you feel a bit confused about the vocal at the blue tick, place a circle there.
12:12 -Bakari-: [http://puu.sh/aUArE.jpg a picture]
12:13 -Bakari-: well, you can just fix the 3/4s on your own, I think you've already noticed most of the overmapped ones and can remove them yourself 
12:13 N1ghtRabb1T: yeah
12:13 N1ghtRabb1T: I will change them if they don't sound fit.
12:13 -Bakari-: I'll just leave them up to you, and continue checking the rest :P
12:14 -Bakari-: 01:58:990 (1,1,2) - if you've changed the previous spinner, consider changing this one as well.
12:17 -Bakari-: 02:27:851 (7,8,9) - the pattern feels forced mostly because of the unnatural flow here
12:17 -Bakari-: you know what's flow, right? :)
12:17 -Bakari-: I tried to improve it a bit and [http://puu.sh/aUAFH.jpg here's] what I've got. see if you like it or not
12:18 -Bakari-: 02:37:155 - 02:37:914 - I've already mentioned something similar, please, do not ignore strong upbeats and vocals. Make 02:36:775 (3,4) - end on the white ticks.
12:19 -Bakari-: 02:38:294 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - the first 4 beats are kinda exaggerated, I'd replace this pattern with a spinner.
12:20 -Bakari-: it fits, try it! http://puu.sh/aUAMD.jpg
12:21 -Bakari-: let me know when you're ready to go on 
12:21 N1ghtRabb1T:  alright I'm ready 
12:22 -Bakari-: well, that was fast :)
12:22 N1ghtRabb1T: after the spinner, I culd figure out what to do with the previous part
12:22 -Bakari-: 02:41:712 (2,3) - minor - the spacing change here is too minor to be a jump, feels more like a spacing miskake
12:23 -Bakari-: either fix the DS mistake or make a jump with bigger DS here. both variants will be suitable
12:24 N1ghtRabb1T: okay
12:24 -Bakari-:  02:47:978 (2,3,4,5) - looks interesting. it may trouble some hidden players, but I would keep it at least for now <3
12:25 -Bakari-: 02:59:560 (1) - minor - the overlap looks untidy. maybe we should go with something like [http://puu.sh/aUB1V.jpg this] instead?
12:26 N1ghtRabb1T: I fixed the overlap
12:26 -Bakari-: 03:24:054 (1,1,2) - you already know what to do, I am sure.
12:27 N1ghtRabb1T: what about the 4 sliders before it?
12:28 -Bakari-: the DS seems a bit broken there, but I have nothing else against them 
12:28 -Bakari-: 03:42:092 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this pattern is quite simple, but I really love it. it fits perfectly <3
12:30 -Bakari-: 03:45:130 (1,2,3) - although I would change this one into [http://puu.sh/aUBgj.jpg something more playable]
12:31 N1ghtRabb1T: But this part here is more like following the electric guitar or something
12:32 -Bakari-: yeah, but it was kinda tricky in terms of rhythm
12:33 -Bakari-: I wouldn't mind it if there was something similar before or if it was a beginning of the map
12:33 -Bakari-: but getting a miss in the middle of a marathon because of the tricky rhythm change would be really upsetting for players
12:33 -Bakari-: but again, I am just suggesting :P
12:34 N1ghtRabb1T: Okay I changed it two 1 1/2 slider and 1 circle 
12:34 -Bakari-: 03:48:168 (1,2,3) - and maybe http://puu.sh/aUBv0.jpg 
12:35 -Bakari-: there is a stream sound and mapping it this way would represent the music nicely 
12:36 -Bakari-:  04:01:838 (1) - this new combo feels extra, it also looks out-of-your patten. consider removing it, please
12:37 N1ghtRabb1T: done
12:37 -Bakari-: 04:23:104 - the big white line stays for the strongest beat of the music, ignoring it feels sorta confusing
12:37 -Bakari-: try to place a circle here?
12:38 -Bakari-: 04:26:142 - uguu, the same here. 
12:39 N1ghtRabb1T: okay
12:40 -Bakari-: 04:42:471 (6,1) - this is really hard to read. the second revrse-arrow appears too late and player don't expect it to be here. as the result, it is almost impossible to read it properly.
12:40 -Bakari-: select the slider and press Ctrl+G to fix it 
12:41 -Bakari-: 04:47:408 - same thing about the downbeat. I just feel uncomfortable when they're ignored but music goes really loud on them
12:41 -Bakari-: 05:10:383 (1,1,2) - and the same again :P
12:42 -Bakari-: and that's pretty much it. 
12:43 -Bakari-: the whistles you've used in the beginning disappeared in the middle of the song, which was kinda weird, in my opinion
12:43 -Bakari-: just.. it is inconsistent and that is why it others me so much
12:44 -Bakari-: flow wasn't really good in some parts, but you're quite new to mapping, so it should be fine. I've mentioned the most confusing parts, anyway
12:44 -Bakari-: The 3/4s are still up to you and I hope that you fix them since it's the most important thing to fix, at least for now
12:44 -Bakari-: In general, the map is fine. It may need some more modding, but it's quite nice, so, keep going :) 

ts8zs wrote:

Hey:D
from #modhelp
00:09:054 (8,1) - will touch each other in testplay
00:10:573 (5) - 220,120?same with 1
00:14:750 (6) - blanket 7?
01:01:838 (5) - blanket 1 better?
01:04:687 (2) - blanket 1's end
01:05:066 (3,4,5) - ^
01:06:585 (1,2) - this overlap isn't very good
02:15:889 (6) - blanket.
02:17:028 (1,3,4) - couldn't know why whistle compare with 00:58:041 (1,2,3,4,5) -
02:27:471 (7) - add a reverse?
02:28:611 - why empty
02:42:661 (4,6) - not same
05:01:079 (5) - NC keep same with 00:24:623 (1) -
05:07:155 (5) - ^
05:12:851 - reverse slider? fits more
05:13:421 - a spinner end at 05:20:256 - 5% soft for end?
whistle needs some fix:3
other things are well

N1ghtRabb1T wrote:

ts8zs wrote:

Hey:D
from #modhelp
00:09:054 (8,1) - will touch each other in testplay
00:10:573 (5) - 220,120?same with 1
00:14:750 (6) - blanket 7?
01:01:838 (5) - blanket 1 better?
01:04:687 (2) - blanket 1's end
01:05:066 (3,4,5) - ^
01:06:585 (1,2) - this overlap isn't very good
02:15:889 (6) - blanket.
02:17:028 (1,3,4) - couldn't know why whistle compare with 00:58:041 (1,2,3,4,5) -
02:27:471 (7) - add a reverse?
02:28:611 - why empty
02:42:661 (4,6) - not same
05:01:079 (5) - NC keep same with 00:24:623 (1) -
05:07:155 (5) - ^
05:12:851 - reverse slider? fits more
05:13:421 - a spinner end at 05:20:256 - 5% soft for end?
whistle needs some fix:3
other things are well

Thanks for your mod----wait what the fuck happened to my responses ;~;

toybot wrote:

I think the difficulty is actually really good overall! just some improvements

[General]
Why not take advantage of the Tick Rate 2 and make a slider tick that has the same hitsound as the clap? it would fill in all the missing claps that you don't get by 3/4 sliders and such. I'll try to get to that one day before it gets ranked.

[Virtuous]

1. 00:07:725 (5,6) - These two sliders are kind of ugly, especially (5). Change it to this?
   SPOILER

   
   You have to copy (4), then ctrl +g and +h. (5) should be symmetrical and not bent towards one side Yeah, I moved them around a little, so I didn't follow your suggestion completely.
2. 00:11:902 (2) - add a whistle? Sure it does make it sounds better.
3. 00:16:079 (2) - you should change this to be identical to (1), like
   SPOILER

   
   Nahh, I prefer as how it is now.
4. 00:24:623 (1) - remove NC, then put the NC on 00:26:142 (3) -, since it feels more fitting to have all of the sliders in one combo, then that rectangular pattern in another combo. If you do this, then do the same to the next stanza. Understood.
5. 00:39:054 (7) - looks kinda weird, maybe just have the slider as a perfect arc one instead? only 3 points on a slider I kind of edited the entire part here. So yey.
6. 00:45:130 (7) - make the blanket perfect, it has no real effect on the flow if you do so It kind of looks fine to me.
7. 01:00:320 (7,8,9) - ahh, this isn't stacked well in gameplay. to fix this, and make it appear better as a stack, you will have to move 01:00:604 (8,9) - to 228|128. Fixed it a bit.
8. 01:06:585 (8) - NC? to give it extra effect as a jump. and add a clap to 01:06:775 (9) - as well Hmm... got it.
9. 01:16:269 (1) - add a finish to the head? Got it.
10. 01:21:775 (9,10,11) - How about make this its own combo and add a jump in there? Move 01:21:965 (2) - to around 356|304 I'll do the combo,but not the jump.
11. 01:44:750 (3) - Remove NC from this and place it on the next slider, because i feel it's better to make the combo to the measure at this point, and plus it signifies the change of direction a bit more I think I see what you mean. Fixed.
12. 01:46:269 (2) - add a whistle to the entire slider No, I doesn't sound fitting to me.
    
13. 01:48:168 (5) - hmm, NC this Fixed.
14. 01:51:206 (1) - ^, since you end up NCing like this on the next set of patterns
    
15. 02:03:927 (7,8) - Turn this into a slider instead that blankets (5)? since the pattern is pretty confusing having overlaps hmmm... no I will not.
16. Kinda nazi-ish, but make 02:43:611 (6) - parallel to (4) Fixed.
17. 02:52:914 (1) - Remove NC, you don't need it here Okay then,but I'm not sure since someone had said to use new combo to differentiate between two different slider velocities.
18. 04:01:838 (3) - you can move this up a bit, to make the distances farther, to ease into the changed SV a bit more I see how it is. Thanks for noting it down.
19. 04:08:294 (4) - add a clap to the reverse and remove it from the last beat Fixed.
20. 04:11:332 (4) - remove clap from last beat Fixed.
21. 04:27:471 - you should probably stack a circle here ontop of the next slider to justify the spacing Not fixed, but will keep in mind.
22. 04:44:370 (5,6) - put an NC on (5) then stack the next circle on top of 04:44:750 (7) - Fixed.
23. 04:50:256 (4) - make this a bit farther from (3)? it won't be unrankable since it doesn't touch anything, if you're wondering about the slidertrack being more than half outside the grid I changed the entire thing slightly. Still very conscious about off-grid things so yeah.
24. 04:58:041 - 05:10:003 - same NC suggestions as before, if you applied the suggestions before Fixed.
25. 05:12:661 (4) - lol why not like this? it would fit the ending so well, considering you did this thing before
    SPOILER

    Yes I see it now! Changed this part to your suggestion.

Good luck!~

beeboy123 wrote:

SPOILER

00:24:623 (5) – This could look better The blanket, you mean? Sure it does look kind of weird. I had to switch off grid snap to fix it.
00:45:130 (7) – Move this up a bit Slightly fixed. Couldn't find the best coordinates.
00:55:003 (1) – Throws off the pattern Doesn't look like so. But I did move it around a little. JUST NEED MORE OPINIONS ON THIS PART
01:13:421 (1) – Extend to 1:15:699 I shortened it by 1/2 a tick because I think the vocals actually end on that part instead.
01:45:699 (3) – The jump here feels out of place Mmm... perfectly fine, actually.
01:57:282 (1,2,3) – These sliders would look nicer curved Only curved one of the sliders, and then made some changes later on.
02:38:294 (1) – Move the spinner to 2:40:763 For this one I intended the spinner's hitfinish, so not going to move it.
04:21:585 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) – Randomly changing spacing between notes Changed this entire combo section, yes.
05:10:952 (2) – This could complement the previous slider some more Nope, leaving it as it is.
No spinner at the end? From a previous modder, the spinner that I actually had at the end would "make no sense". That's why there's no slider.

I really enjoyed this beatmap, other than what I mentioned the sliders are all very nice good luck!! Glad you enjoyed, and...

N1ghtRabb1T wrote:

Thank you! :
Kibbleru (for opinion)

[sekai] wrote:

i aprove your map

[sekai] wrote:

yo
from #modhelp
00:09:054 (8,1) - will touch each other in testplay
00:10:573 (5) - 220,120?same with 1
00:14:750 (6) - blanket 7?
01:01:838 (5) - blanket 1 better?
01:04:687 (2) - blanket 1's end
01:05:066 (3,4,5) - ^
01:06:585 (1,2) - the overclap it's not to good i think
02:15:889 (6) - blanket.
02:17:028 (1,3,4) - couldn't know why whistle compare with 00:58:041 (1,2,3,4,5) -
02:27:471 (7) - add a reverse?
02:28:611 - why empty
02:42:661 (4,6) - not same
05:01:079 (5) - NC keep same with 00:24:623 (1) -
05:07:155 (5) - ^
05:12:851 - reverse slider fits more
05:13:421 - spinner ends >///<
mods and more mods

pkk wrote:

N1ghtRabb1T wrote:

Thank you! :
Kibbleru (for opinion)

I died

and here is the mod (did you take a look at [sekai]'s mod yet?)

General
I suggest you use a silent sliderslide sound. The scratchy slide sounds at some parts really takes away from the music (and is pretty distracting).
Just rename the file so you get a soft-sliderslide and normal-sliderslide: http://puu.sh/b7Afq/18026aaf61.wav

I also recommend you get some expert to check the hitsounds, just in case. Anyways my 'mod' is basically 1000 suggestions back to back (but then again, a mod basically is a bunch of suggestions) I have no idea what I was trying to say super mindfuck

• Everything Else

1. 00:08:484 (7) - at 00:06:395 - you can hear new sounds being introduced in the music and making it more exciting, sort of making the song seem like it's speeding up. From 00:00:320 - to 00:06:206 - it starts off slow and you have multiple 1/1 sliders, but after that it sort of picks up the pace.
   You can try turning this (00:08:484 (7) - ) into a 1/2 slider then add a note at 00:08:864 - to match the feeling the music creates. Nahh I am keeping it as it is, because i feel that 1/2 slider would end on nothing and just silencing it would be weird. I know what you mean about the adding of a note.
   
2. 00:09:054 (8,3) - not sure if you're picky about stacking or not, but I'll just point out that these are not stacked. Fixed.
   
3. 00:10:573 (5) - NC is important here since you change SV. Got it.
   
4. 00:10:952 (1) - how about moving this away from the previous slider? The jump will emphasize the sudden change in music
   
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   http://i.gyazo.com/d64566c6cee5929fdca9b51f77534985.png
   It is fine as it is to me. No jump intended but good suggestion.
   
   If you move this slider it will create a jump between this and 00:11:902 (2) - , which is fine. Jumps are cool
   
5. 00:12:851 (2,3,4) - The spacing between these objects is relatively the same, even though you can hear that 00:13:801 (4) - is slightly more emphasized. Try to space 00:13:801 (4) - out, maybe around x 196 y 84. This way the mini jump creates emphasis and also ensures that this slider doesn't overlap with 00:12:851 (2) - . At 00:15:320 (7,1) - you made a jump to emphasize the music which is good. Thanks for the suggestion, but not fixed, because reasons unknown.
   
6. 00:19:876 (5,6) - it'll look neater if you put a little more space between the objects (maybe nudge (6) left a bit) I fixed it a bit.
   
7. 00:39:433 (8,9) - this isn't very 'intuitive' as others like to call it. I think you can rearrange the objects so they're not in a straight line leading right into 00:39:813 (1) - . Try something like this:
   
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   I moved it around a little, but I guess I need more work on this some time later.
   
   (9) is between the two sliders and (6). (8) is above (6) so they don't overlap. Fun to play and more interesting I suppose
   
8. 00:48:168 (1,1) - I feel that these two objects are too close together to provide any emphasis at 00:48:927 - , which is the start of a new section in the song. What you can do is add a note at 00:48:737 - stacked with the head of 00:47:408 (4) - . I feel that the jump created creates strong emphasis at 00:48:927 - . I added the note.
   
9. 00:54:433 (7,1) - not sure if this was intentional, but if you want to stack you can move 00:54:623 (8) - to x 148 y 128, and 00:54:813 (9) - to x 140 y 40. 00:55:003 (1) - can go to x 245 y 39 and the tail will stack, hooray. Stack intended, now fixed.
   
10. 00:57:661 (8,2,3) - You can avoid this overlap if you wish:
    00:58:041 (1) - to x 256 y 44 (better blanket with 00:57:282 (7) - )
    00:58:421 (2) - to x 92 y 68 (to avoid overlap)
    00:58:611 (3) - to x 44 y 144 (same thing)
    
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11. 00:59:180 (5,6) - consider spacing them out more to emphasize the strong vocal at 00:59:560 - . Considered.
    
12. 01:01:079 (1,2) - , 01:01:459 (3,4) - if you ctrl+g each pair it creates an interesting pattern. I think it's fun to play and the flow is still good. You can test this out I guess I rather keep this as it is.
    
13. 01:02:408 (1) - ctrl+g here actually feels pretty good because 01:01:838 (5) - makes a circle/oval with it, but you would have to move 01:02:978 (2,3) - and any objects after
    
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    Fixed.
    
    You would only have to move 01:03:737 (4) - if you ctrl+g and stack tail with 01:03:168 (3) - :
    
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14. 01:21:016 (7,8) - overlap can be avoided with 01:20:636 (6) - if you move 01:21:016 (7,8) - to ~x 284 y 264 Intended overlap.
    
15. 01:22:155 (3) - this doesn't form an exact straight line with 01:21:775 (1,2) - (place a slider on (1) and then the tail on (3) and you will see that (2) does not exactly line up) Anyways, nudge this 2 spots right on the grid and it should be k. This I fixed.
    
16. 01:40:573 (10) - this is on a very powerful beat (like, BAM). Downbeat is pretty strong ehre
    BAM
    BAM
    BAM
    NC please
    bam
    
17. 01:46:079 (1) - I feel that this part isn't emphasized enough for it to deserve a NC. You can hear the word/syllable she starts on 01:45:699 (3) - sort of extends over to 01:46:079 (1) - . Seems like they both should be part of the same combo. Fixed.
    
18. 02:04:876 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I really like this part, good job! Thanks I appreciate that!
    
19. 02:13:231 (7) - consider adding whistle on head and tail. The added hitsounds combined with the hitsound on the repeat will create movement and pick up the pace, which provides a perfect transition into 02:13:990 - where the music starts getting more exciting. Added.
    
20. 02:17:408 (2) - whistle on head and tail? This way the lone whistle at 02:17:028 (1) - won't sound so out of place.I deleted the whistle. Sounds out of place anyway
    
21. 02:44:370 - strong vocal here, are you sure you want to map it with the end of a repeat slider? I think you should remove one repeat and add a 1/1 slider at 02:44:370 - . Changed this part a bit.
    
22. 02:56:522 - very strong vocal, I suggest you make a jump to emphasize this. Try deleting 02:56:142 (9) - and copying the shape from 02:55:763 (8) - , then rotating a few degrees CCW.
    
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    The slider dropoff provides a very nice transition into 02:56:522 (1) - . Nahh I rather have it as how it is.
    
23. 04:29:940 (2,3) - jump is a little unexpected since you usually don't have big jumps in the song. Try ctrl+g on 04:29:940 (2) - Fixed.
    
24. 04:39:433 (7) - since this is just barely overlapping with the previous slider, move this to the right (around x 388 y 280). Looks neater I changed it.
    
25. 04:39:433 (7) - How about something like this:
    
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    Head is down there (immature giggling)( GODDAMMIT MAN ) and it curves upwards because 05:05:636 (3) - curves downwards into 05:06:965 (4) - Changed it, but not to your suggestion.
    
26. 05:13:421 (1) - you can have this slider start on 05:13:326 - to have it instantly spinning without delay. Also, remove that finish hitsound because it's really out of place with the music. You're better off adding a timing point at 05:20:826 - with 5% volume to match the music. Okay! Also, "timing point"?

Great map, keep up the good work!

Genocide wrote:

accepted pro mapper

Tess wrote:

[General]
HP6 AR8 OD7 on a 158BPM map is a bit strange to me. The pacing of this song isn't that slow, so instead of going by the raw number of the BPM it might be good to look at the song itself. I'd personally do HP5.5 AR8.5 OD7, but that's up to you. Would just play better, in my opinion. Would reconsider.
Also, it's a bit too late for this now but you could've definitely made this map harder, especially considering that it's an Approval map. 5-minute long easy maps aren't that fun to play in my opinion, but I'm sure that there are plenty of players who won't find this easy, so I digress.

[Virtuous]
00:04:687 (4) - If you moved this to the right and down by literally one osu pixel it would stack neatly onto 00:03:357 (1) - . Nothing huge, I just have a thing for stacking. Well, stacking reason, so yeah I fixed this.
00:15:130 (7) - We both know you can blanket better than this. To me it looks fine, but just to be safe I moved this outward by just a bit to try and blanket this with another section of the previous slider.
00:38:104 (4,7) - http://puu.sh/cbM3X.png ? I am leaving it as it is because I like it better, and if the 7 is where you suggest, I think it's too far from the previous beat and might be too much of a jump to emphasize anything.
00:40:952 (4) - Pull this back to 1.0x spacing I think i -might- have fixed it.
00:49:687 (3) - You could fix this blanket No blanket intended here unless it was with (1). Just keeping it as it is.
00:59:180 (5) - Your spacing just keeps randomly shifting and I'm not really sure why. Leaving it as it is. Wish I could say it was for some small emphasis, but I am not going to a hypocrite
01:04:117 (1) - ^ Same as above.
01:10:763 (2) - Aaa stack Fixed it.
01:43:611 (1,2,3,1) - Why don't you turn this into a pretty blanket pattern like this http://puu.sh/cbMmi.png and then ctrl + g 01:45:509 (2,3) - ? Not following your suggestion, but I moved it a bit just for stacking purposes.
01:45:509 (2,3) - ? Intended emphasizing jump.
02:07:155 (3) - Blanket fix Fixed it.
02:26:142 (1,2,3,4) - http://puu.sh/cbMwS.png ? Not to your suggestion, but I fixed it quite a bit.
02:38:294 (1) - Why not end this spinner here 02:40:573 - and then add 3 jumps on the following red, white and red ticks? Nah, I prefer it to be like this.
02:43:990 (7) - You could ctrl hj this. Actually, you should. Or at least add some other form of jump. Fixed, I -think-
02:53:104 (4) - Missing a blanket here Uh...hmm. I can't see it, but okay.
03:11:142 (5,6) - http://puu.sh/cbMJx.png ? The blanket is supposed to be for the previous slider, so...yeah. Not fixed.
03:17:788 (1) - Triple, not a slider~ I prefer it as a repeating slider instead.
03:19:307 (1) - ^ Same as above
03:30:320 (2) - Fix stack Stack fixed.
03:45:699 (3,4,5,6) - Increase (4)'s spacing to 1.2x so that the blanket looks like this http://puu.sh/cbMQ1.png and then please fix the blanket of 03:47:218 (7) - and change 03:47:788 (8) - into two hit circles spaced 1.4x apart. I also found that spacing (7) at 1.4x resulted in the prettiest blanket, and everything would be consistent. I wound up with this http://puu.sh/cbMWb.png I fixed the blanket,but not the two circles thing because honestly i don't feel the strength of two notes here :\
03:49:687 (1) - You completely neglect the intensity of the music here. Intended, not fixed. Stream here would make it a bit harder(which I am not aiming for), and anything else would just result in the same way as what a stream would do so...yeah.
04:33:357 (2) - Jump~ Okay, I made a jump here.
05:02:598 (1) - Fix this blanket In my opinion, it looks fine.
05:12:851 (3,1) - Change this into a stream, it's the end of the song and you literally had 0 streams. Stream would make the diff a bit harder(not aiming for this), and the jump and last hit on the final note appeals to me more as a greater movement \o/.

Good luck getting this ranked. Star.

theramdans wrote:

wow good
looks better with this current settings (dat ar9 tho)
keep it up!

1. Yer map, yer changes.
2. Style points, yummy eye-candy, blanketing, stuff like that.
3. Rhythm stuff.
4. What else goes here?

1. 00:12:092 (3) - Maybe new combo here to help with the slow slider reading.
2. 00:13:231 (3) - There's no sound on the start of (3) but only on the reverse and back.
3. 00:15:509 (1,2) - Maybe some rotational fun with these two sliders, HJ or 160 degrees or something.
4. 00:17:598 (5) - Radially asymmetrical, try to even out the top and bottoms of this slider.
5. 00:18:168 (6,1) - This pair is closer together than 00:16:649 (3,4) - . (1) is also a freehand slider, therefore (6) and (1) are not parallel. Ctrl G (6) to create (1) and make a parallel slider.
6. 00:18:547 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Link Try this sequence instead, it better supported by the music.
7. 00:22:155 (2,4) - Blanket, rotate (2) 1 degree around selection center.
8. 00:24:623 (1,2) - Use two white points before the red point on slider (1) for a better blanket.
9. 00:27:661 (1) - The small curve at the end of the slider is unnoticable, should just remove it.
10. 00:28:231 (2,4) - Blanket, rotate (2) 1 degree around selection center.
11. 00:29:750 (2,4) - Blanket, rotate (2) -2 degrees around selection center.
12. 00:33:737 (1,2) - Maybe intentional, otherwise fix blanket.
13. 00:38:294 (5,6) - (6) is a freehand slider, (5) and (6) are not parallel. Ctrl G (5) to make (6).
14. 00:41:522 (5) - Rotate 4 degrees around selection center and move to x:385 y:158.
15. 00:48:547 (4,1) - (4) is pointing in the wrong way, keep in mind of where your reverses end up. Ctrl G (4) to lead into (1).
16. 00:54:054 (6) - These small sliders shouldn't have a bend in them, they look much nicer when straight.
17. 01:01:838 (5,1) - Blanket, rotate (5) 3 degrees around selection center.
18. 01:04:117 (1,2) - Fix blanket and re Ctrl H to create (3) and (4).
19. 01:07:535 (2,3) - (3) is a freehand slider, Ctrl G (2) to make (3). They are currently not parallel.
20. 01:10:952 (3,4) - Fix blanket, move (3) to x:291 y:287.
21. 01:20:826 (1,2) - Blanket, rotate (1) -2 degrees around selection center.
22. 01:21:585 (3,4) - Link Make these small reverse sliders straight and possible 1/6th snap instead of 1/4th. Reverse (4) to lead into (1).
23. 01:44:750 (3,1) - (1) is a freehand slider, Ctrl G (3) to make (1).
24. 01:46:269 (5,1) - Blanket, move (1) to x:308 y:156.
25. 01:56:142 (2,3) - Blanket, rotate (2) -7 degrees around selection center.
26. 02:04:876 (2,3) - Blanket, rotate (2) -4 degrees around selection center.
27. 02:06:965 (2,3) - Blanket, rotate (3) -2 degrees around selection center.
28. 02:09:054 (4,5) - Blanket, rotate (5) -3 degrees around selection center.
29. 02:18:357 (3) - Move to x:336 y:216 for a 1.01x distance snap.
30. 02:34:876 (3,1) - Blanket, rotate (3) 3 degrees around selection center.
31. 02:36:016 (2,3) - Ctrl HJ (2) to make (3), blanket.
32. 02:41:712 (2,3) - Blanket, rotate (3) 1 degree around selection center.
33. 02:49:307 (1,2,3) - Ctrl Shift R and rotate (1) -120 and -240 degrees around playfield center to create (2) and (3) respectively.
34. 02:54:244 (5,6) - Probably intentional but (6) isn't horizontally flipped from (5).
35. 02:59:560 (1,2,3) - Blanket, rotate (1) 1 degree around selection center.
36. 03:00:889 (5,6,7) - Blanket, rotate (5) -1 degree around selection center.
37. 03:03:547 (3,4) - Blanket, rotate (4) 4 degrees around selection center.
38. 03:29:940 (1,2) - Ctrl G (1) to make (2), these are freehand sliders.
39. 03:33:737 (2,3) - Rotate (3) -2 degrees around selection center and move to x:335 y:55.
40. 03:42:092 (1,2,3) - (1) and (2) lead away from the next starting point, remember where the reverses go.
41. 03:46:838 (6,7) - Blanket, rotate (7) -1 degree around selection center.
42. 04:53:104 (3,1) - Blanket, move (1) to x: 194 y:270.
43. 04:58:041 (1,2) - Blanket, rotate (1) -2 degrees around selection center.
44. 05:01:079 (1,1) - Blanket, rotate (1) 2 degrees around selection center.

Axarious wrote:

modding because
[General]

1. Yer map, yer changes.
2. Style points, yummy eye-candy, blanketing, stuff like that.
3. Rhythm stuff.
4. What else goes here?

[Virtuous]

1. 00:12:092 (3) - Maybe new combo here to help with the slow slider reading. I don't see what you mean be a slow slider here.
2. 00:13:231 (3) - There's no sound on the start of (3) but only on the reverse and back. I must've changed something because this links to nothing.
3. 00:15:509 (1,2) - Maybe some rotational fun with these two sliders, HJ or 160 degrees or something. No. You could add in suggestion if I do this, but even so I still won't do anything about it.
4. 00:17:598 (5) - Radially asymmetrical, try to even out the top and bottoms of this slider. I think I fixed it.
5. 00:18:168 (6,1) - This pair is closer together than 00:16:649 (3,4) - . (1) is also a freehand slider, therefore (6) and (1) are not parallel. Ctrl G (6) to create (1) and make a parallel slider. I think I fixed it.
6. 00:18:547 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Link Try this sequence instead, it better supported by the music. No, will not fix.
7. 00:22:155 (2,4) - Blanket, rotate (2) 1 degree around selection center. Not fixed.
8. 00:24:623 (1,2) - Use two white points before the red point on slider (1) for a better blanket. No blanket intended. Will not fix.
9. 00:27:661 (1) - The small curve at the end of the slider is unnoticable, should just remove it. Fixed.
   
10. 00:28:231 (2,4) - Blanket, rotate (2) 1 degree around selection center.
    
11. 00:29:750 (2,4) - Blanket, rotate (2) -2 degrees around selection center. Not fixed.
12. 00:33:737 (1,2) - Maybe intentional, otherwise fix blanket. Fixed.
13. 00:38:294 (5,6) - (6) is a freehand slider, (5) and (6) are not parallel. Ctrl G (5) to make (6). I think I fixed it.
14. 00:41:522 (5) - Rotate 4 degrees around selection center and move to x:385 y:158. Will not fix.
15. 00:48:547 (4,1) - (4) is pointing in the wrong way, keep in mind of where your reverses end up. Ctrl G (4) to lead into (1). What is the difference? The small distance between (4) and (1) still makes it easier for movement without much jump. Not fixed.
16. 00:54:054 (6) - These small sliders shouldn't have a bend in them, they look much nicer when straight. Fixed.
17. 01:01:838 (5,1) - Blanket, rotate (5) 3 degrees around selection center. Not fixed.
18. 01:04:117 (1,2) - Fix blanket and re Ctrl H to create (3) and (4). Not fixed.
19. 01:07:535 (2,3) - (3) is a freehand slider, Ctrl G (2) to make (3). They are currently not parallel. I have no idea what you mean. (3) came from (2) after a ctrl+g. Not fixed.
20. 01:10:952 (3,4) - Fix blanket, move (3) to x:291 y:287. Not fixed.
21. 01:20:826 (1,2) - Blanket, rotate (1) -2 degrees around selection center. Not fixed.
22. 01:21:585 (3,4) - Link Make these small reverse sliders straight and possible 1/6th snap instead of 1/4th. Reverse (4) to lead into (1). Intended them to be like this and so, will not fix.
23. 01:44:750 (3,1) - (1) is a freehand slider, Ctrl G (3) to make (1). Fixed.
24. 01:46:269 (5,1) - Blanket, move (1) to x:308 y:156. Not fixed.
25. 01:56:142 (2,3) - Blanket, rotate (2) -7 degrees around selection center. Fixed this part, but not to your suggestion.
26. 02:04:876 (2,3) - Blanket, rotate (2) -4 degrees around selection center. Not fixed.
27. 02:06:965 (2,3) - Blanket, rotate (3) -2 degrees around selection center. Fixed something, but not to your suggestion.
28. 02:09:054 (4,5) - Blanket, rotate (5) -3 degrees around selection center. Fixed just a tiny bit.
29. 02:18:357 (3) - Move to x:336 y:216 for a 1.01x distance snap. Fixed.
30. 02:34:876 (3,1) - Blanket, rotate (3) 3 degrees around selection center. Not fixed.
31. 02:36:016 (2,3) - Ctrl HJ (2) to make (3), blanket. This place is intended, will not fix.
32. 02:41:712 (2,3) - Blanket, rotate (3) 1 degree around selection center. Will not fix.
33. 02:49:307 (1,2,3) - Ctrl Shift R and rotate (1) -120 and -240 degrees around playfield center to create (2) and (3) respectively. Will reconsider.
34. 02:54:244 (5,6) - Probably intentional but (6) isn't horizontally flipped from (5). Fixed.
35. 02:59:560 (1,2,3) - Blanket, rotate (1) 1 degree around selection center. Not fixed.
36. 03:00:889 (5,6,7) - Blanket, rotate (5) -1 degree around selection center. Not fixed.
37. 03:03:547 (3,4) - Blanket, rotate (4) 4 degrees around selection center. Hmm... not fixed.
38. 03:29:940 (1,2) - Ctrl G (1) to make (2), these are freehand sliders. Fixed.
39. 03:33:737 (2,3) - Rotate (3) -2 degrees around selection center and move to x:335 y:55. Will reconsider.
40. 03:42:092 (1,2,3) - (1) and (2) lead away from the next starting point, remember where the reverses go. Not fixed.
41. 03:46:838 (6,7) - Blanket, rotate (7) -1 degree around selection center. Fixed a bit but not to your suggestion.
42. 04:53:104 (3,1) - Blanket, move (1) to x: 194 y:270. Will not fix.
43. 04:58:041 (1,2) - Blanket, rotate (1) -2 degrees around selection center. Will not fix.
44. 05:01:079 (1,1) - Blanket, rotate (1) 2 degrees around selection center. Hmmm... will not fix.

N1ghtRabb1T wrote:

why am I not good in finding BATs

guineaQ wrote:

N1ghtRabb1T wrote:

why am I not good in finding BATs

use more magic