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Chris Da House vs. DJ Sledge Hammer - Believe (Nightcore Mix

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Asphyxia
osu! Alumni
1,986 posts
Joined June 2012
Asphyxia
handsome

handsome wrote:

[ASPHYXIA'S ADVANCED]

00:21:215 (4) - this feels out of place. It doesn't...? Mind elaborating on that?
00:49:087 (4,5,6,7) - uhhh.. not sure how to feel about this in this difficulty. looks a little challenging. put closer to (3) in the very least. It should be very easy to catch, I'll probably end up changing it if more people complain about it but for now, no.
01:04:864 (1) - odd slider shape for a repeat No? It's perfectly fine shape-wise.
02:11:651 (5,6) - DS please! The DS is fine, the approach rate helps this pattern a lot so you can't really hit too early / late.
02:25:850 (4,5,6,7,1) - usually someone would end this pattern on their non-main finger, pretty odd to play for a Hard. It should be quite natural to play, not too sure where the issue is here.

Thanks for your mod! No change
Sey
1,406 posts
Joined October 2010
Sey
Mod as requested!

[Kurokami's Rain]
  1. 00:33:486 (4,1) - There should be a HDash here because you also mapped this with HDashes on previous and following patterns.
  2. 00:49:438 - Instead of a spinner you could also make a little stream here, would be cool to see a bit more streams in that difficulty.
  3. 00:53:119 (3,1) - HDash would fit here, like you did at 00:55:924 (3,1) -
  4. 00:58:728 (5,1) - ^
  5. 01:04:864 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Can you please explain me what this is supposed to be? ._. Suggest to get rid of the 1/4 notes here and only use main beats, a few 1/2 sliders connected with easy HDashes and that should be more than enough.
  6. Why are there no hitsounds from 01:13:278 - to 01:21:341 - ?
  7. 01:25:899 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the fruits here are so squeezed and the pattern feels weird to play.. Why not something like this instead:
    1) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1960701
    2) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1960702
  8. 01:30:106 (1) - According to the music the slider feels way too long. It should end at 01:30:281 - already and there has to be an extra note at 01:30:457 - . The beats at 01:30:281 - and 01:30:983 - are important to be mapped properly.
  9. 01:30:807 (4) - ^
  10. 01:50:966 - I would add a note here and create a HDash between the note and 01:51:142 (4) - to keep it consistent with 01:49:213 (8,1) - . Both HDashes should go in different directions due to symmetry matters.
  11. 01:58:153 (1) - Two spinners suit the rhythm: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1960733
  12. 02:14:456 (5,1) - HDash as you did on the previous parts
  13. 02:19:715 (6,1) - ^
  14. 02:23:221 (4,1) - Not necessarily a Hdash needed but due to the beat at (1) at least a higher distance would be great.
  15. 02:48:638 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Really akward pattern, I suggest this instead:
    1) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1960756
    2) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1960757
    3) Select 02:50:041 (1,2,3,4,5) - and ctrl + H it to keep symmetry here.
Diff is quite nice but a few more mods really won't hurt here, I think it can be better structured.
Kurokami
osu! Alumni
4,024 posts
Joined February 2010
Kurokami

Sey wrote:

Mod as requested!

[Kurokami's Rain]
  1. 00:53:119 (3,1) - HDash would fit here, like you did at 00:55:924 (3,1) - Not enough space. q.q
  2. 00:58:728 (5,1) - ^ No, to make it consistent with the previous suggestion.
  3. 01:50:966 - I would add a note here and create a HDash between the note and 01:51:142 (4) - to keep it consistent with 01:49:213 (8,1) - . Both HDashes should go in different directions due to symmetry matters. I dunno if I understood this correctly but I changed it a bit.
  4. 01:58:153 (1) - Two spinners suit the rhythm: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1960733 It is, but the difference is very little to begin with.
Diff is quite nice but a few more mods really won't hurt here, I think it can be better structured.
Everything else is fixed. Thanks for checking it.

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litoluna
1,073 posts
Joined April 2011
litoluna
nice map ;) ;)
I enjoy your works so much.
GL!!!
Kazuya
894 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Kazuya
Ohh. Thank you very much. : )
Vhy
678 posts
Joined November 2012
Vhy
uhh.. this can't be...
long time no modding map :3

Notes ~
Black : minor / normal suggestion, includes coordinates mod for the sake of movement
Italic : personal suggestion that i would really love to see this fixed. it may break your mapping style
Blue : highly suggestion / questionable thing. recommended to fix this
Red : unrankable thing / strongly suggestion. you have to fix this, still you can igrone this unless you have a good reason

[Kurokami's Rain]
00:12:976 (1) - i dont see why you put 3/4 slider here because it doesn't connect anything
00:18:235 (4) - instead of adding a HDash on 00:18:761 (2), i think a HDash would fit here more by ctrl+g it and move 00:18:761 (2) to x:80
00:53:645 (1,2,3,4) - i see these note is placed on white tick only which cause it less movement. since this is kiai, at least change it to a slider or maybe add more beat to fill the movement
01:28:967 (2) - cz of this circle position, it doesn't require a movement to catch the pattern on 01:28:704 (1,2,3). considering to move this circle to x:288 to make it movable and liitle enjoyable
01:29:668 (5) - same as above
01:31:333 (8,1) - HDash like u did at 01:30:632 (4,5)
01:52:369 - missing note here? i still hear the sound here. also for consistency with 01:50:966 (4)

wihwihwih this map is just so me ><
good luck :)
Kurokami
osu! Alumni
4,024 posts
Joined February 2010
Kurokami


Vhy wrote:

uhh.. this can't be...
long time no modding map :3

Notes ~
Black : minor / normal suggestion, includes coordinates mod for the sake of movement
Italic : personal suggestion that i would really love to see this fixed. it may break your mapping style
Blue : highly suggestion / questionable thing. recommended to fix this
Red : unrankable thing / strongly suggestion. you have to fix this, still you can igrone this unless you have a good reason


[Kurokami's Rain]
00:12:976 (1) - i dont see why you put 3/4 slider here because it doesn't connect anything Listen carefully. The "boys" ends on blue tick and the next word which is "on" starts on white.
00:18:235 (4) - instead of adding a HDash on 00:18:761 (2), i think a HDash would fit here more by ctrl+g it and move 00:18:761 (2) to x:80 Wait, what?
00:53:645 (1,2,3,4) - i see these note is placed on white tick only which cause it less movement. since this is kiai, at least change it to a slider or maybe add more beat to fill the movement Actually this is not yet the kiai. I used this rhythm to make differences in the rhythm which is repetitive like a ****. I know what you are trying to say here but I don't want to create any more similar patterns. orz
01:28:967 (2) - cz of this circle position, it doesn't require a movement to catch the pattern on 01:28:704 (1,2,3). considering to move this circle to x:288 to make it movable and liitle enjoyable I also wondered about this. Changed
01:29:668 (5) - same as above ^
01:31:333 (8,1) - HDash like u did at 01:30:632 (4,5) This can fit and I'm aware of this but because of the 1/1 distance its impossible to add HDash while one of the patterns is in the middle of the grid. And to blame the 1/1 distance once more the HDash will be very weird since you need to move a quite high distance while there is still beat meanwhile.
01:52:369 - missing note here? i still hear the sound here. also for consistency with 01:50:966 (4) There was a note. o.o Added back
02:42:503 (3) - no HDash here? Added.

wihwihwih this map is just so me ><
good luck
Thanks for your mod. The only reason why I rejected some suggestion from you is because the song is repetitive. I needed to ignore many beats fro time to time to be able to create some difference. This map is still bad and I can say freely that this is my worst map ever (not counting the oldest ones). I will wait a bit more, maybe some more mod will help but if not maybe I will ask for removal. There is no chance to rank this in this form and I alone can't make it better anymore (or maybe I could but I re-mapped this several times already).

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320,32,171443,6,0,L|400:80,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,32,171706,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,32,171793,2,0,L|112:80,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,32,172056,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,112,172144,2,0,L|432:160,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,112,172407,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,128,172494,1,8,0:0:0:0:
96,176,172582,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,128,172670,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,224,172845,6,0,L|16:224,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,224,173371,2,0,L|240:160,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,272,173722,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,272,174072,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,144,174247,6,0,L|80:144,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,144,174598,2,0,L|336:144,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,144,174949,2,0,L|16:144,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,144,175300,2,0,L|400:144,1,90,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,32,175650,5,0,0:0:0:0:
64,32,175825,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,32,176001,1,8,0:0:0:0:
336,32,176176,2,0,L|240:32,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,32,176527,1,0,0:0:0:0:
512,32,176702,1,8,0:0:0:0:
400,32,176877,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,112,177052,5,0,0:0:0:0:
416,160,177403,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,208,177754,1,0,0:0:0:0:
512,256,178104,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,224,178454,5,0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,178630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
0,144,178805,1,8,0:0:0:0:
176,128,178980,2,0,L|112:64,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,64,179331,2,0,B|368:160|368:160|272:256,1,270,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,179857,12,0,181260,0:0:0:0:
Kazuya
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Revived \o/
Krfawy
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Kazuya wrote:

Hi Krfawy. Questions:

- My map s rankable?
- Do you have time?
- You accept m4m?


https://osu.ppy.sh/s/181917

Call me babe. \o
Thankie. C:
I need to go and do some stuff at the very moment but I love this song and the mapset so my answer is: Yes. #PLACEHOLDER

EDIT:

Poggo's Advanced
  1. По моему АР8 слишько быстро потому что спейсинг очень крутый и в диффе мы видим немного обиектов. Пожалуйста, можешь дать АР7?
  2. 00:49:438 (1,2) - Меня очень нравится модел/узор, очень правильный и милый. 02:24:798 (1,2) - Но, скажи пожалуйста, почему сейчас ты сделала такий трудный узор? D: така же самая как заранее, да? Дай корочий спейсинг во вторым моменте. :< И почему 02:25:499 - слайдер кончится сдесь а не туда 02:25:412 - ?
  3. 02:42:152 (2) - Забыла свистока или есть как ты хотела?
  4. 02:54:248 (1,2,3) - Я не совсем понимаю почему ты поставила второй слайдер на слабом бите? Это гораздо лучше звучит как "слайдер-слайдер-серкл." Скажу тоже само об 01:07:668 (1,2,3) -
  5. 01:23:094 (1,1) - Очень короткий развыр. Не забудь, что после Нормалa тебе надо сделать развыры который дологий на 250-275 миллисекунд или больше a сейчас только на 175 миллисекунд. :V Тоже само: 01:34:313 (1,1) -
  6. 02:14:982 (5) - Туда ты дала normal-hitnormal когда после ты дала soft-hitfinish в похожих моментах. Дай финиш хс, пожалуйста.
AssFixYah's Advanced
  1. Pretty certain it'd looked better if titled 'Hard' and not 'Advanced' because it plays like a regular Hard, you know?
  2. How about OD7.5 so it is a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle bit harder but not too much?
  3. 01:23:094 (1) - Sounds bad, can't you silence it with 5% volume and soft sampleset, please? The same goes for: 01:34:401 (1) -, 02:23:396 (1) -, 02:59:857 (1) -
  4. 01:58:153 - Yeah I see that you're using a regular sampleset because the default sampleset sounds better but can you use it as C2 and just silence the sliders? Those sliderslides are getting on my nerves. >3>
Midnight
  1. 02:59:857 (1) - Shouldn't it be silenced with 5% volume? XD
Call me back! :3

EDIT2: It seems my attempting to write something in Russian was redundant. It hurt. :<

Krfawy wrote:

Poggo's Advanced
  1. To be honest AR8 seems a little bit too fast if you look at the density of the notes, the speed of the sliders and when you look at it in general. I recommend AR7.
  2. 00:49:438 (1,2) - I do like this patterning, it's nice. 02:24:798 (1,2) - But why is this pattern so different then? D: That's exactly the same moment in the music, right? Please, use the same spacing like on the first example. :< And why 02:25:499 - does the slider end here and not here: 02:25:412 - ?
  3. 02:42:152 (2) - Did Katty forget about a whistle or was it on a purpose?
  4. 02:54:248 (1,2,3) - Saying shortly, it plays weird, I seriously suggest 'circle-circle-slider' construction and not the accurate one. The same goes to 01:07:668 (1,2,3) - this one.
  5. 01:23:094 (1,1) - The break is very short. Don't forget the break should last at least 250-275 milliseconds or more when now it lasts only 175 milliseconds. :V The same issue: 01:34:313 (1,1) -
  6. 02:14:982 (5) - Here you used normal-hitfinish but later you used soft-hitfinish for similar moments. Personally I advise to use soft finishes.
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Mekki
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Nice to know that we will get another ranked nightcore map on osu! soon c: even that song has already been mapped xDD
Asphyxia
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Thanks Krfawy! I fixed the spinner 5%'s! As for the other suggestions go, leaving them for Kazuya.

I don't mind renaming my difficulty, but as far as I can reacall, he was the one that wanted to name my difficulty advanced? Not sure though... The sliderslide is whatever for me personally, I don't get triggered by the sound but yeah.. Kazuya can probably do something about it if he wants to keep stuff consistent and stuff.

Normally, I'd love to use higher OD on my maps, but the thing is, that'd ruin the OD spread the current set has, and I don't want that.
Krfawy
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That's good because I'm a Christian. \w/
Mekki
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HYPE FOR RANK!!
meii18
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We made some fixies via IRC
12:12 ByBy13: btw shoudn't be Asphyxia's Hyper? looks like an hard diff
12:12 Kazuya: I know.
12:12 Kazuya: I rename to hard
12:12 ByBy13: nop
12:12 Kazuya: I think, not too hard.
12:13 ByBy13: hm  yeah
12:13 Kazuya: But okey.
12:13 Kazuya: Hyper is fine. :D
12:13 ByBy13: okay :D
12:13 Kazuya: And pie's diff to hard?
12:13 ByBy13: hmm
12:13 ByBy13: nop
12:13 ByBy13: leave as it is
12:14 Kazuya: Okie
12:18 Kazuya: 2nd
12:18 Kazuya: http://puu.sh/m2Iku/3c584062d8.jpg
12:19 ByBy13: oh okay then ;_;
12:20 Kazuya: Don't worry. :D
12:20 ByBy13: oh okey
12:32 Kazuya: Call me, if you ready. C:
12:32 ByBy13: okay
12:33 ByBy13: well firstly update pls
12:33 Kazuya: Ohh
12:33 Kazuya: ok
12:34 Kazuya: Updated
12:35 ByBy13: oki
12:35 Kazuya: And renamed ASphyxia's diff
12:35 Kazuya: Popped. X_X
12:38 Kazuya: yay december 21. (osu time) \o/
12:38 ByBy13: \o/
12:40 Kazuya: This is not world ends. D:
12:41 ByBy13: I know xD
12:43 Kazuya: can you rank my map on 22:00? XD (romanian time: 23:00) XD
12:43 Kazuya: My favourite number is 22.
12:43 ByBy13: sure :D
12:43 Kazuya: And 21
12:43 Kazuya: I hope, good.
12:44 Kazuya: All diff is fine. D:
12:44 ByBy13: yeah :D
12:44 ByBy13: also the title is fine?
12:44 Kazuya: Yes.
12:44 Kazuya: I ask irre, and desperate.
12:44 ByBy13: nice then =w=)
12:44 ByBy13: *asked
12:44 Kazuya: But you don't believe me, ask him . :D
12:45 ByBy13: ok
12:47 ByBy13: ar 5 in normal is fine
12:49 Kazuya: Rendben. :) / Okay
12:49 ByBy13: it means okay in hungarian?
12:49 Kazuya: I always use this value for normals.
12:49 Kazuya: Yes.
12:49 Kazuya: Rendben, oké = okay.
12:49 ByBy13: oh :)
12:53 Kazuya: I was given a free hand for editing hard diffs.
12:54 Kazuya: Katy Pie and asphyxia is very busy.
12:54 ByBy13: *are
12:54 ByBy13: very busy =w=)
12:55 ByBy13: hmm your mp3 have only 160kbps
12:56 ByBy13: but I guess it's fine since it is between 128kpbs and 192kbps
12:56 Kazuya: I know. Rankeable. :D
12:56 ByBy13: yup \w
12:56 ByBy13: \w/
12:56 Kazuya: Yes
12:57 Kazuya: 128 kbps is bit bad quality, 192 is bit huge, if song is greater than 10 min.
12:57 Kazuya: *file size
12:57 ByBy13: yeah
12:57 ByBy13: also the hitsounds are fine to me
12:58 Kazuya: I tried my best. :D
12:58 ByBy13: yea
12:58 Kazuya: Maybe not too boring XD
12:58 *ByBy13 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/437721 Chris Da House and Dj Sledge Hammer - Believe (Nightcore Mix) [Medium]]
12:59 ByBy13: 00:23:494 (2)- move this slider to 20|326 to avoid overlapping
13:00 Kazuya: Okey.
13:04 ByBy13: 02:03:763 - in this 'relaxing' part,I suggest to change S to S:C1 since the sliderbodies sounds really noisy there and it doesn't fit the relaxing part
13:04 ByBy13: I think this is for all diffs
13:05 Kazuya: Soft sample is not good here?
13:05 Kazuya: This music is low here.
13:05 ByBy13: soft yeah
13:05 ByBy13: but I said S:C1 baka xD
13:05 Kazuya: Chinese HS is bit high here.
13:05 ByBy13: ye i know xD
13:05 Kazuya: Well okey.
13:07 Kazuya: Changed
13:07 ByBy13: oki doki
13:15 *ByBy13 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/438096 Chris Da House and Dj Sledge Hammer - Believe (Nightcore Mix) [Pie's Advanced]]
13:16 Kazuya: i crossed
13:16 ByBy13: 01:35:716 (1,2,3,4)- I'd like to increase the spacing here because at other patterns like this  you decreased the spacing and this pattern is only with the spacing increased
13:16 ByBy13: 01:36:592 (5,6,7)- ^ sae
13:16 ByBy13: *same
13:17 Kazuya: 1.0x is fine?
13:17 ByBy13: yes :)
13:19 Kazuya: Fixed
13:19 ByBy13: okay =w=)b
13:21 ByBy13: that was kind of difficulty spike let's say because yeah it seems like an advanced diff
13:21 ByBy13: to my eyes
13:22 Kazuya: Just good.
13:22 Kazuya: I changed circle spacing now.
13:22 Kazuya: Current advanced SR is 2.92
13:23 Kazuya: And normal is 1.85
13:23 ByBy13: yeah
13:24 ByBy13: ahh I have to go at sleep 
13:24 ByBy13: luckily that my mom it's at work tomorrow
13:24 Kazuya: :(
13:24 Kazuya: :D
13:24 ByBy13: can I post the log?
13:24 Kazuya: Please owo
13:24 Kazuya: XD
13:24 Kazuya: Ok
13:24 ByBy13: I'll qualify tomorrow
13:25 Kazuya: But remove my picture link XD
13:25 ByBy13: okay xD

We'll continue tomorrow
Krfawy
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#ITHINKITISOKAY
meii18
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Made another changes through IRC.Also no kds
Rebubble due to timing offset change and several changes across the map
Krfawy
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#KAZACHSTANKI
Mekki
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OMG!! Gratz! Finally more nightcore for osu <3
Aurele
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Why is the title "and" instead of "&" ?

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/40216
meii18
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Gabe wrote:

Why is the title "and" instead of "&" ?

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/40216
I think you're right here Gabe.I've found this song with '&' mostly if I'm not wrong instead of 'and' so I guess '&' is the correct one.Also I think Dj Sledge Hammer must be DJ Sledge Hammer with 'J' from 'DJ' in caps.Here's the proof https://soundcloud.com/ala-wi-ko/chris-da-house-dj-sledge
Kazuya
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...



Chris Da House Vs. Dj Sledge Hammer (https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/believe/id285339799)
Chris Da House and Dj Sledge Hammer
Chris Da House & Dj Sledge Hammer

So now what? Don't need DQ. Plz.
sheela
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Oh, I've crossed his website (I guess?). Heres the website: http://www.chrisdahouse.com/

If you click "Discogaphie" on the left, go down until you see two CD images. You'll then see that the sentence above contains Chris da House vs. DJ Sledge Hammer. http://puu.sh/m5teA/af22925a8b.png

Also, the cover of the E.P. suggests that the artist should be Chris Da House vs. DJ Sledge Hammer. We can see it well in the image: http://images.junostatic.com/full/CS1334953-02A-BIG.jpg
And don't mind the art for Chris Da House. Their other covers has it spaced.

In conclusion, Chris Da House vs. DJ Sledge Hammer is the correct artist.
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meii18
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I saw that disk too but i've found it as '&' but before that i've found it as 'vs.' firstly but I wasn't really sure so sheela's totally right.it should be Chris Da House vs. DJ Sledge Hammer according to the disk picture and to the oficial website of the DJ-er
Aurele
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sounds right
Monstrata
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Insane - 02:23:398 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is just so unnecessary imo xP. Music isn't even that intense yet. This is the build up to an eventual Kiai and the music is still gradually getting louder. The difficulty of this one stream, being both spaced and using really weird angles like forcing weird turns on 02:23:661 (4,7) - just make the stream unfitting for that section of the song.
Kazuya
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1/4 part. It's not unnecessary.

I dislike simple lined, and curved stream. Boring, and too mainstream. There are greater sins, especially forced jump/ variable spacing circle streams and slider streams. Lokk at some 2015 map.
Kurokami
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Disqualifying for incorrect metadata.

Artist: Chris Da House vs. DJ Sledge Hammer
Kazuya
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BIZTOS hogy a VS az kicsi?

VS.

vagy

vs.

?

REMÉLEM. XD

Updated
Monstrata
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Monstrata
Would be nice if your streams aligned with the music though. 00:48:037 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) For example. Having the turns map to the white ticks in the music would make the streams fit the song better, instead of having these turns on blue ticks that don't really align with anything.

quick chat on #nominators if you care
03:16 monstrata: the streams felt really forced for that part of the song.
03:17 monstrata: the rest of the map is pretty chill, simple rhythms, straightforward jumps and patterns. good symmetry. its just the streams i had a problem with.
03:19 Kurokami: Ugh that stream
03:19 JBHyperion: I wouldn't say the use of streams is "forced", but it does create a weird difficulty spike
03:19 JBHyperion: it does feel kinda overdone to me
03:19 Kurokami: Its not forced, but could be easier.
03:19 monstrata: 00:48:037 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - if they could at least line up the turns with the music, that would still improve it a lot
03:19 JBHyperion: that flow change is just what
03:20 monstrata: because right now the stream is turning on blue ticks like 00:48:476 (6) - which don't really have much impact
03:20 JBHyperion: there's not really anything there that calls for such a sharp direction change at all
03:20 monstrata: yea xP
03:20 Kurokami: It should be smother at white ticks
03:20 JBHyperion: but I agree, if the turns stay, they should at least be on white ticks
03:21 monstrata: yep
03:21 monstrata: he can have his unusual stream formations but they'll be better appreciated if they fit the music

Also, Medium as a lowest diff is kinda weird lol. Medium implies theres a lower diff and this ones "in between". Maybe just rename it to Normal since you've excluded the Beginner diff.
Kazuya
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Changed streams a bit.
JBHyperion
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Not sure if it's just me, but I find the SC:1 hitnormal extremely difficult to hear at 5% volume during play and not providing sufficient feedback to the player, e.g. 01:58:155 in Asphyxia's Hyper, 02:03:765 in the other diffs. 10% volume at 02:06:570 is much more noticeable, so I recommend buffing the volume from 01:58:155 / 02:03:765- 02:09:374 by 5% to 10 / 15. At any rate, the green line at 02:03:765 in Asphyxia's Hyper is unnecessary as it changes nothing, so it can be removed.
Kazuya
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Updated!
Sonnyc
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Hello!

Since this mapset was unfortunately disqualified, I'd like to offer a mod as an opportunity for improvement:

Normal
  1. 00:52:244 (3,4) - 00:57:854 (3,4) - Personally this rhythm didn't felt natural enough since it was pretty much ignoring the 1/2 instrument between these notes. Making this as a 1/1 slider as what you've done at 02:27:605 (3) - 02:33:214 (4) is what I would prefer, but please do mind that this is only my personal suggestion.
  2. 01:03:463 (3) - This curve rate feels pretty high for a short lengthed slider. Besides, you can think once again regarding the pattern itself. Since other similar parts such as 01:09:073 (4,5) - 02:50:043 (4,5) - 02:55:652 (3,4) are all using 1/2 parallel sliders, you can also consider making this pattern consistent.
Pie's Advanced
  1. 00:24:197 (1,2) - I'm not sure about this spacing usage while most other patterns were consistently using ds.
  2. 01:00:396 (1) - This spinner feels urgent compared to the music. I can hear that intensing sound starting from 00:59:957, but that slider wasn't detached from the previous pattern. 00:59:256 (1,2) is following the drums by using a 1/1 rhythm, and accordingly starting the spinner from 01:00:659 will be more natural and an organized rhythm selection. (+) Hey look! You've started at the downbeat 02:47:238 (1) here!
  3. 02:59:859 (1) - Spinner end is 1ms unsnapped. This causes the 5% volume setting at the end not working properly. This won't be a hard fix. Refer the following code for unsnap information.
    256,192,179859,12,0,181261,0:0:0:0:
Asphyxia's Hyper
  1. 00:42:778 (2) - This whistle slide really feels random. Check if this was intended.
  2. 01:58:155 (1,2,3,4,5) - Is it only me who has audability problem? The instrument before is still remaining, and the 10% hitsound only gets audible properly from 01:59:558.
  3. 02:39:174 (3,4) - Spacing is decreased for no special purpose. Even not a pattern purpose imo. This inconsistency pretty feels less professional.
Midnight
  1. 00:17:185 (1,2) - These curve rate are pretty different. Considering you've used a similar curve rate for such patterns, I suggest you to make it consistent.
  2. 00:19:990 (1,2,3) - The flow of (1,2) feels pretty unnatural. Since the transition of the instrument happens at 00:20:691, dropping the flow there would be more natural than dropping at 00:20:516 imo.
  3. 00:31:209 (1,2,3) - Unlike other patterns such as 00:28:404 (1,2,3) - 00:34:014 (1,2,3) - 00:36:818 (1,2,3) - 00:42:428 (1,2,3) - the spacing of (2,3) is pretty huge and feels inconsistent. Surely they are a consistent 2.00x, but considering slider leniency and the real cursor movement, (2,3) are pretty far and please double check if you can make this setting better.
  4. 01:36:419 (5) - Add NC for consistency since other 4 note symmetry patterns such as 01:37:821 (1) - 01:40:626 (1) - contains NC.
  5. 01:51:845 (3,4) - I do not consider this combo setting reflects the music properly nor your pattern. Please add NC at (4).
  6. 02:05:167 (1) - 02:10:777 (5) - Inconsistent combo setting.
  7. Really a nice difficulty! Nice usage of square circles and flow mainly. It's pretty hard to see such good maps these days. Good work.
Kazuya
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Hello. Thanks for mod, only fixed:

Normal:

01:03:463 (3) - This curve rate feels pretty high for a short lengthed slider. Besides, you can think once again regarding the pattern itself. Since other similar parts such as 01:09:073 (4,5) - 02:50:043 (4,5) - 02:55:652 (3,4) are all using 1/2 parallel sliders, you can also consider making this pattern consistent.

Pie's:
soon

Asphyxia:

Waiting...

Insane:

00:17:185 (1,2) - These curve rate are pretty different. Considering you've used a similar curve rate for such patterns, I suggest you to make it consistent.
01:36:419 (5) - Add NC for consistency since other 4 note symmetry patterns such as 01:37:821 (1) - 01:40:626 (1) - contains NC.
01:51:845 (3,4) - I do not consider this combo setting reflects the music properly nor your pattern. Please add NC at (4).
02:05:167 (1) - 02:10:777 (5) - Inconsistent combo setting.
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Asphyxia
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Asphyxia

Sonnyc wrote:

Hello!

Asphyxia's Hyper
  1. 00:42:778 (2) - This whistle slide really feels random. Check if this was intended. What whistle? I don't see any whistle here, I even re-downloaded the set to make sure.
  2. 01:58:155 (1,2,3,4,5) - Is it only me who has audability problem? The instrument before is still remaining, and the 10% hitsound only gets audible properly from 01:59:558. You're right, increased volume on that part to 30%, and then decreased it again to 15% where the music gets much lower so it fits the whole section better (note, everything now gives proper feedback)
  3. 02:39:174 (3,4) - Spacing is decreased for no special purpose. Even not a pattern purpose imo. This inconsistency pretty feels less professional. What inconsistency? Why would it feel less professional? I did this the whole map, almost at least. It's just a different version of 02:44:433 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , where I used antijumps for the sake of having variation. However, I adjusted the part visually a little, but I see no real reason to change it entirely.
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Thank you for the mod! :)
Sonnyc
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Sonnyc

Asphyxia wrote:

Sonnyc wrote:

Hello!

Asphyxia's Hyper
  1. 00:42:778 (2) - This whistle slide really feels random. Check if this was intended. What whistle? I don't see any whistle here, I even re-downloaded the set to make sure.
Thank you for the mod! :)
oops lol
Kazuya
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Kazuya
Re-updated!
sheela
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sheela
Hey Kazuya!

[General]
  1. soft-hitnormal.wav has a delay over 5ms. Although the beginning has noises, we have to account the audibility of the delay. Currently the noise is very low, and that still counts as a delay. So here's the file I corrected for you: http://puu.sh/m8Slb/39c8ee55bd.wav
[Midnight]
  1. 00:19:990 (1) - 00:25:600 (1) - I'd moved them out of the stack so they could be free and be more emphasized since you have to move the cursor somewhere else. It's like when there's a jump. You want to make it because you want to emphasize the specific beat.
  2. 00:36:818 (1) - Moving this more to the right makes the flow more natural. That way, the straight flow of 00:36:293 (8,9,1) is instead more of a circular flow. Having a circular flow will fit better when 00:36:818 (1) is a curve slider. If the flow straight, it could make a weird movement, like if you were moving more up than what the slider slides to.
  3. 00:53:647 (1,2) - Very minor, but adjust the second node, where it forms the curve, to make the curve more neat, like this:
    Curve
    This point also applies to 02:08:147 (6,7) - 02:29:007 (1,2) - .
  4. 01:33:789 (5,6,7) - If there's a stream on 01:28:180 (4,5,6,7,8) then maybe 01:33:789 (5,6,7) would have a stream too. It makes them consistent through the rhythms.
  5. 01:56:753 (1,3) - I would suggest you rotate so the flow could go left and right. Now, these repeated the same flow as 01:55:351 (1,2,3) but I kind of think it's boring to replay, so more variety will make more fun. Also you didn't do that for 01:51:144 (1,2,3) with 01:49:741 (1,2,3) .
I've checked the other difficulties, but I couldn't find anything wrong! I only have concerns in Midnight. Call me back whenever it is updated!
Kazuya
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Kazuya
Thank you. I fixed only this:

- Hitsound

00:36:818 (1) - Moving this more to the right makes the flow more natural. That way, the straight flow of 00:36:293 (8,9,1) is instead more of a circular flow. Having a circular flow will fit better when 00:36:818 (1) is a curve slider. If the flow straight, it could make a weird movement, like if you were moving more up than what the slider slides to.

00:53:647 (1,2) - Very minor, but adjust the second node, where it forms the curve, to make the curve more neat, like this:
Curve
This point also applies to 02:08:147 (6,7).
sheela
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sheela
Alright. Here's my bubble! Good luck with the qualification!
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