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FL vs DT

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Sharkyy
Hey guys, simple question- I was just wondering if FL would give the same amount of pp as DT scores?
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FieryLight
Nope. For example, rrtyui gets 542 pp for doing Remote Control ( https://osu.ppy.sh/b/164020?m=0 ) with HD + DT but yoshilove only gets 247 pp for doing the same song with HD + FL
Ayesha Altugle
*Different scores orz
magzh
no they won't. DT gives MUCH more pp. Example:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/221950?m=0
SnowWhite got 513pp with DT for this song
NerO got 242pp with FL for this song, despite getting higher accuracy and higher score.

EDIT: got ninjad
Topic Starter
Sharkyy

FieryLight wrote:

Nope. For example, rrtyui gets 542 pp for doing Remote Control ( https://osu.ppy.sh/b/164020?m=0 ) with HD + DT but yoshilove only gets 247 pp for doing the same song with HD + FL
Okay cool nice example too.
Thanks for answering that :D
Topic Starter
Sharkyy
Thanks guys xD
magzh
Also a little off-topic:
According to this song Remote Control ( https://osu.ppy.sh/b/164020?m=0 ), yoshilove HD+FL got 247pp and ChAoS CrOsS HD+HR got 251pp for almost the same accuracy, so it is safe to assume that HR gives almost the same amount of pp as FL.
Genki1000

magzh wrote:

Also a little off-topic:
According to this song Remote Control ( https://osu.ppy.sh/b/164020?m=0 ), yoshilove HD+FL got 247pp and ChAoS CrOsS HD+HR got 251pp for almost the same accuracy, so it is safe to assume that HR gives almost the same amount of pp as FL.
I think remote control is an exception since it's heavily aim-based and FL gives a massive bonus (I think +50%?) to the aim value. On maps which don't need much aim, FL wouldn't really do much.

HR also increases aim by a smaller amount but it also increases OD, so you usually get a lot more pp than FL thanks to the accuracy aspect. Except remote control is already OD9 so it doesn't make as much difference, which is why the 2 scores are so similar pp-wise (I think).

Basically HR > FL in most cases.
EcksDee
DT completely recalculates map difficulty too doesnt it? Same with HR.
I think HD and FL just add score
hehe

EcksDee wrote:

DT completely recalculates map difficulty too doesnt it? Same with HR.
I think HD and FL just add score
only DT increases map difficulty. HR in general increases CS/AR/OD, all factoring into the final PP total, however the map remains the same. HD and FL both increase aim and accuracy values, but not as a large margin as HR or DT.
GhostFrog
HR and DT are both treated as entirely new maps. Different circle sizes are handled by scaling all maps to have the same circle size (since you can in theory do this by changing the size of your osu! window), so HR is treated as an entirely new map with larger jumps and higher OD and AR.
Illkryn
DT increases the AR and OD as well as making the map 1.5x the speed.
It's only natural it should be worth the most pp


Not that AR means anything.
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