He plays offline no internetInControL wrote:
According to your profile you don't even have 1k play count. Most of people need 4-6k before playing insane. (In my case it took 8k because I quit Osu! for 3 months and then switched from mouse to tablet). Just play maps that you can barely pass starting with ar7 and before you know it you will fc those in no time. Personally I'm quite pleased with my progression (went from 75k to 28k in a month and half). Don't worry about PP and try to pass maps with B or even C is fine.
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What happened to your old avatar? :3 I loved that Kanade smileBlueprint wrote:
He plays offline no internetInControL wrote:
According to your profile you don't even have 1k play count. Most of people need 4-6k before playing insane. (In my case it took 8k because I quit Osu! for 3 months and then switched from mouse to tablet). Just play maps that you can barely pass starting with ar7 and before you know it you will fc those in no time. Personally I'm quite pleased with my progression (went from 75k to 28k in a month and half). Don't worry about PP and try to pass maps with B or even C is fine.
i know how it is like to feel this way too, i have over 3.2 million hits and so many plays [that dont even include a lot of offline and unranked maps i play] and i dont really improve as fast as other people, but it does happen gradually. go back to some maps you used to have a hard time on in a few weeks/months and you'll see thats how i see.
it's a real struggle for me to get better even though i truly do try stuff thats really challenging
rarely even play things I can get higher than a B on... idk i have no talent or the genetics for this so i have to work much harder than other players to improve i guess...
most ppl with my playcount/number of hits are in the 4 digits or close
it's a real struggle for me to get better even though i truly do try stuff thats really challenging
SPOILER
about an hour ago - Yiruma & Skullee - River Flows In You (A Love Note) [Love Note] 503,343 (B) Nightcore
about 2 hours ago - cYsmix feat. Emmy - Tear Rain [Insane] 1,583,823 (B) Nightcore
about 2 hours ago - A Day to Remember - Have Faith in Me [Faith] 367,882 (C) NoFail,DoubleTime
about 2 hours ago - A Day to Remember - Have Faith in Me [Faith] 297,599 (D) NoFail,DoubleTime
about 20 hours ago - Griffin Lewis - Princess of the Night [Insane] 310,862 (S) DoubleTime
about 2 hours ago - cYsmix feat. Emmy - Tear Rain [Insane] 1,583,823 (B) Nightcore
about 2 hours ago - A Day to Remember - Have Faith in Me [Faith] 367,882 (C) NoFail,DoubleTime
about 2 hours ago - A Day to Remember - Have Faith in Me [Faith] 297,599 (D) NoFail,DoubleTime
about 20 hours ago - Griffin Lewis - Princess of the Night [Insane] 310,862 (S) DoubleTime
rarely even play things I can get higher than a B on... idk i have no talent or the genetics for this so i have to work much harder than other players to improve i guess...
most ppl with my playcount/number of hits are in the 4 digits or close
Can't find itInControL wrote:
What happened to your old avatar? :3 I loved that Kanade smile
I think i know a thing or two about improving. ( I started playing on march 15th regularly, do the math)
If you are getting 97 and up % consistently on songs , regardless of fc or not (FC'ing is only concentration, luck , whatever, but not skill) , as long as you get semi-perfect perfomancee on something, dont do it anymore.
Go up a notch, until you accuracy drops a lot, when that level of play becomes normal to you, go up a notch, repeat.
I dont know how long of sessions you play for, but I hope they are at least an hour. For me it takes 20-30 minutes to warm up, if I were to not play after that, I would literally get nothing from those minutes. (improvement wise)
Spectate people who are better than u, let that motivate you.
Oh and please, dont try to fc songs. Dont play them 200 times as you mentioned... If you can fc something first try, good. If you can't , move on.
At your level, or even at my level , it isnt worth it. Because if you do what i say, 1 month later you ll be so much better than u ll actually do it first try.
If you are getting 97 and up % consistently on songs , regardless of fc or not (FC'ing is only concentration, luck , whatever, but not skill) , as long as you get semi-perfect perfomancee on something, dont do it anymore.
Go up a notch, until you accuracy drops a lot, when that level of play becomes normal to you, go up a notch, repeat.
I dont know how long of sessions you play for, but I hope they are at least an hour. For me it takes 20-30 minutes to warm up, if I were to not play after that, I would literally get nothing from those minutes. (improvement wise)
Spectate people who are better than u, let that motivate you.
Oh and please, dont try to fc songs. Dont play them 200 times as you mentioned... If you can fc something first try, good. If you can't , move on.
At your level, or even at my level , it isnt worth it. Because if you do what i say, 1 month later you ll be so much better than u ll actually do it first try.
Topic Starter
Thanks for the advice everyone, I've read everything.
But from now I'll try and challenge myself more with trying to get good accuracy with faster songs then.
I only play offline because I don't have an internet connection at my place yet (sometimes I take my laptop to places to play online), I really would prefer to have one and see my progress, but doing some basic calculations I can't see my playcount being far off 10K. If that was true then even a self proclaimed 'bad' player like Bassist would be significantly better than me.
But anyway, thanks everyone, I feel a bit more encouraged now.
A lot of people have said the same thing, I was really under the impresion that I should be aiming for full combos and getting good accuracy. The thing is that my speed isn't that bad, I don't know what a good example is, but I can 'pass' most insanes like Wahrheit or The Creator, but always with a B or C, so I though I should be trying to improve accuracy which is what I have trouble with.Bauxe wrote:
If you are aiming for full combos to improve, you are really doing this wrong.
But from now I'll try and challenge myself more with trying to get good accuracy with faster songs then.
I enjoy that game most of the time, I do try and be positive, sometimes I just get down because of how bad my performance is, I'm not Tohru Honda...CDFA wrote:
maybe if you stopped fucking moping around and actually played the game and practiced with a positive attitude you'd be better
I only play offline because I don't have an internet connection at my place yet (sometimes I take my laptop to places to play online), I really would prefer to have one and see my progress, but doing some basic calculations I can't see my playcount being far off 10K. If that was true then even a self proclaimed 'bad' player like Bassist would be significantly better than me.
But anyway, thanks everyone, I feel a bit more encouraged now.
If you are getting a B or C, accuracy isn't your issue. Speed or aim is.
Here's something to cheer you up. I've had this account for 4 years, and you're nearing in on my global rank already.
Granted that I played casually for a year, took a hiatus for a long while, then came back because other friends started playing it. And everyone I know has surpassed me now, even though I started playing again at the same time they started. So now I'm frantically trying to catch back up to them.
Granted that I played casually for a year, took a hiatus for a long while, then came back because other friends started playing it. And everyone I know has surpassed me now, even though I started playing again at the same time they started. So now I'm frantically trying to catch back up to them.
You play hours a day?Your playcount is very low...... Takes less than a week to get 1k playcount if playing atleast a few hours a day.
To improve, you will need to play songs that you can barely pass and what I usually do is after I pass a map I move it to my redo collection and i will play that map again after a few days to see if i can get a better score. Rinse and repeat, eventually you will be able to full combo that song, the only thing is how long that will take.
Topic Starter
But I get maybe 5 misses, I'm really inaccurate at OD8, I tend to get a lot of 100s even when I feel like I'm clicking to the rhythm.Bauxe wrote:
If you are getting a B or C, accuracy isn't your issue. Speed or aim is.
lol try od10B1rd wrote:
But I get maybe 5 misses, I'm really inaccurate at OD8, I tend to get a lot of 100s even when I feel like I'm clicking to the rhythm.Bauxe wrote:
If you are getting a B or C, accuracy isn't your issue. Speed or aim is.
What I do is basically:
1. Log in and play online
2. Play hards that I like (songs that I like listening to or maps that are fun)
3. Move on to insanes after a bit
4. If you pass them, keep going (if I fail I tend to throw my mouse and rage quit :3)
5. ?????
6. Suddenly god mode on one song ---> free pp ---> improvement!
By the way PLEASE TAKE A BREAK if you start feeling tired... Taking breaks once every while actually helps as well~
1. Log in and play online
2. Play hards that I like (songs that I like listening to or maps that are fun)
3. Move on to insanes after a bit
4. If you pass them, keep going (if I fail I tend to throw my mouse and rage quit :3)
5. ?????
6. Suddenly god mode on one song ---> free pp ---> improvement!
By the way PLEASE TAKE A BREAK if you start feeling tired... Taking breaks once every while actually helps as well~
I'll just let you know, half of the top 100 are even more depressed now because particular players have been doing extreme shit lately.
You think? I get below B accuracy on low bpm deathstreams and the reason isn't that I lack the speed or aim.Bauxe wrote:
If you are getting a B or C, accuracy isn't your issue. Speed or aim is.
songs i can barely pass scare the crap out of me which is why I don't tend to play them much... I think you could go a bit lower to where you probably won't fail but you won't do well either and still improve just as well
I'm generally bad at od 8 as well.. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1668811 that's od 7 << https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1668815 od 8<B1rd wrote:
But I get maybe 5 misses, I'm really inaccurate at OD8, I tend to get a lot of 100s even when I feel like I'm clicking to the rhythm.Bauxe wrote:
If you are getting a B or C, accuracy isn't your issue. Speed or aim is.
It's probably the maps ^^
Quit comparing yourself to others, and just try to play the maps you enjoy the most. Improvement will come with time, unless of course your sitting there trying to snipe others.
Tried changing your dpi to 800 or something along those lines? Seeing as you're a mouse only your clicks disrupt your movement more the higher sens you have.
Alsi trying different grips can do a lot for your streaming if you're having problems with it.
Alsi trying different grips can do a lot for your streaming if you're having problems with it.
If I recall properly, you're using a sensitivity greater than 3000 dpi, that's generally way too high for a mouse only player. It probably would help you if you played with lower DPI. Also, you might as well play online instead of offline, you might be thinking that you have way more plays than you actually do.
It really does come down to HOW you play. Improvement only comes with challenge. I know the feeling of hitting a wall, it's annoying.
But seriously, keep at it! You will get better and notice significant improvement, I assure it.
But seriously, keep at it! You will get better and notice significant improvement, I assure it.
InControL_old
I found it on google xDBlueprint wrote:
Can't find itInControL wrote:
What happened to your old avatar? :3 I loved that Kanade smile
https://www.google.ca/search?q=kanade+s ... 1024%3B576
cheer up m8, you will overcome that depression you are feeling right now if you do not think of that and develop your playing skills more
I found it on google xDOkay on the off-topic....kanade scares me for some reason...
https://www.google.ca/search?q=kanade+s ... 1024%3B576
Back to on-topic, maybe you should just do maps for fun, laugh if you find one so hard you fail in 3 seconds (okay that's just me though), and sort of play maps that seem pretty darn fun but hard you wanna beat? Woo, I'm pterribad at advice giving.
nofail + DTHD on maps 170 bpm at least (making it 255 bpm)
do it all day everyday
do it all day everyday
Progress comes in bit by bit. Try talking to yourself and reviewing patterns in edit mode. People might think you're crazy, but you will probably learn faster than just playing map after map.
It's just like studying. If you don't review what you study within 20 minutes of learning it, it won't be placed in your Long Term Memory. Just a funny thought that came up... if you play a map, study the patterns, play another map, study the patterns, then go back to the previous map...
Basically if you work in sets of 2 in order to learn, more information could be stored into the long term memory. Hmm... theories, theories.
It's just like studying. If you don't review what you study within 20 minutes of learning it, it won't be placed in your Long Term Memory. Just a funny thought that came up... if you play a map, study the patterns, play another map, study the patterns, then go back to the previous map...
Basically if you work in sets of 2 in order to learn, more information could be stored into the long term memory. Hmm... theories, theories.
Topic Starter
IMO it's a misconception that clicks disrupt mouse movement, I've tried playing at 7000 dpi and I still didn't see any noticeable disruption, and players like Salochin play at 3000+ dpi at 1440x900 with mouse clicks and do very well.uberpancake wrote:
Tried changing your dpi to 800 or something along those lines? Seeing as you're a mouse only your clicks disrupt your movement more the higher sens you have.
Alsi trying different grips can do a lot for your streaming if you're having problems with it.
but I can't singletap above 200 bpmmeteor22 wrote:
nofail + DTHD on maps 170 bpm at least (making it 255 bpm)
do it all day everyday
Anyway, I actually tried playing insanes today, I realised now that was actually too caught up in trying to get FCs with hards; I actually do a higher tier of difficulty decently, now all I need to do is practice those maps until I can get good accuracy~
I'm saying that because I changed to 800 dpi from 2700 about 1 month ago. My consistency has improved dramatically and if you're struggling with yours then I can see lowering it helping
Every "pro" mouse only I know of have under 2k. Best ranked even has 500 on 1920x1080. I could look some more up later today.
Every "pro" mouse only I know of have under 2k. Best ranked even has 500 on 1920x1080. I could look some more up later today.
Topic Starter
uberpancake wrote:
I'm saying that because I changed to 800 dpi from 2700 about 1 month ago. My consistency has improved dramatically and if you're struggling with yours then I can see lowering it helping
Every "pro" mouse only I know of have under 2k. Best ranked even has 500 on 1920x1080. I could look some more up later today.
I'd like to be able to just change to low dpi and become insta-better, but I've tried it and it doesn't work for me. Trying to use arm movement feels really awkward and unnatural. Even if all the best players use low dpi, I've still seen some good high dpi players, so I know it's viable.
2700 dpi is what I prefer, if I were going to change my playstyle to get better I'd probably just use a tablet.
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Kodehawa_old
Dude, you got 900 plays, theres like no progress to expect.
Sometimes people play 900 plays in days, and not 6 months. Just play more.
Sometimes people play 900 plays in days, and not 6 months. Just play more.
Topic Starter
here's a tip: try to be more perceptive in the futureDat Unreal wrote:
Dude, you got 900 plays, theres like no progress to expect.
Sometimes people play 900 plays in days, and not 6 months. Just play more.
EasyMillions
Download val0108's beatmaps. Play them, fail, cry, repeat. You'll get better that way.
some people improve much faster than others i guess, or just have soem natural talent. Im around 10k and i rarely see anyone around my rank with less than 10k playcount. Try to watch your replays and see what it is you keep making mistakes of, and try to practise those parts many times.
Btw if you really do feel depressed about playing the game then dont play it at all. Games are about having fun not taking it too seriously. If you try to take it seriously while not being good at the game you will never get anywhere. Just keep playing for fun and you wont even start noticing your drastic improvements till around 50k rank. You'll be proud of how far you've come.
Also a tip: dont stay on 1 song for too long. I never repeat the same song more than 3 times, and i keep rotating between alot of songs. This way i've just gotten really consistent and decent at unpredictable beatmaps. This way you can rank up at a steady rate.
Btw if you really do feel depressed about playing the game then dont play it at all. Games are about having fun not taking it too seriously. If you try to take it seriously while not being good at the game you will never get anywhere. Just keep playing for fun and you wont even start noticing your drastic improvements till around 50k rank. You'll be proud of how far you've come.
Also a tip: dont stay on 1 song for too long. I never repeat the same song more than 3 times, and i keep rotating between alot of songs. This way i've just gotten really consistent and decent at unpredictable beatmaps. This way you can rank up at a steady rate.
Mix the maps you play around. Play stuff you can fc (more to acc practice I guess), play stuff you can fc with mod (just the ability to play with different mods which will help in the future), play stuff that challenges your current level, and retrying multiple times in a row on the same map is the last thing you ever want to do. Play through the whole song, you can quit like right at the end or something if you dont want that score to be recorded but play through them.
People progress at different rates. Some has already been exposed to rhythm games before allowing them to pick things up faster, some gets to play like a crap tonne of hours a day (I dunno how they manage to have that much playtime but they just do) so they significant amounts of exposure to the game in a short amount of time... lets say... 6hrs a day on avr for 3 months as compared to 2hrs a day for 3 months (rl > osu plz...). So try not to compare yourself to others too much, you just have to know you beated your previous self.
People progress at different rates. Some has already been exposed to rhythm games before allowing them to pick things up faster, some gets to play like a crap tonne of hours a day (I dunno how they manage to have that much playtime but they just do) so they significant amounts of exposure to the game in a short amount of time... lets say... 6hrs a day on avr for 3 months as compared to 2hrs a day for 3 months (rl > osu plz...). So try not to compare yourself to others too much, you just have to know you beated your previous self.
imo level/playcount/time playing has nothing to do with your skill
everyone has a different play style, plays in a different rythm etc etc... what i am saying is: don't worry about ranking (because it is a bit ridiculous for people like you and me) and just have fun... don't go after the pp by doing the same maps over and over. try new and harder maps, even with NF if you need to
when i started i had the habbit of retrying easy and normal songs over and over, so didn't really evolve, like you.
don't expect fo FC songs when you first do them, find pleasure in doing everyday better than the day before
edit: and important advice from another noob. if youw ant to improve, download tons of beatmaps, i would recomment the chart beatmap packs
everyone has a different play style, plays in a different rythm etc etc... what i am saying is: don't worry about ranking (because it is a bit ridiculous for people like you and me) and just have fun... don't go after the pp by doing the same maps over and over. try new and harder maps, even with NF if you need to
when i started i had the habbit of retrying easy and normal songs over and over, so didn't really evolve, like you.
don't expect fo FC songs when you first do them, find pleasure in doing everyday better than the day before
edit: and important advice from another noob. if youw ant to improve, download tons of beatmaps, i would recomment the chart beatmap packs