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Cherry Blossom wrote:

Things are more or less carefully done that's why i liked it, great map (just forget what Kloyd and I said about this map).
yeah it was just from my anger that u've extended things. I appologize for being that rude.
(I thought u might misunderstand what I've wrote before "OK. I won't say anymore 'bout that. EPIC MAP, GOOD LUCK.")
SuperMIC
irc mod

SPOILER
22:07 ktgster: i have animu and i have instrumental
22:08 SuperMICrophone: ill look at both then decide which one ill mod lol
22:08 SuperMICrophone: do you mind an irc mod?
22:08 SuperMICrophone: ill never do one if you want a posted one
22:08 ktgster: i don't mind
22:08 SuperMICrophone: kk
22:09 *ktgster is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/457474 Kuraki Mai - Kaze no Lalala -TV on air version-]
22:09 *ktgster is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/477346 Yooh - salvation]
22:10 SuperMICrophone: salvation needs a more ethereal background
22:10 SuperMICrophone: but this song sounds pretty cool so ill do this one
22:10 *SuperMICrophone is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/427090 Yooh - salvation]
22:11 SuperMICrophone: r u there
22:12 ktgster: am i hre
22:12 SuperMICrophone: ok
22:12 SuperMICrophone: starting with redemption
22:13 SuperMICrophone: 00:24:614 (4,5,1) - mm dont really like a stack here, id prefer all notes spaced for maximum emphasis
22:14 SuperMICrophone: i find it interesting you have very few if any jumps in here
22:14 ktgster: and have 5.75 stars
22:14 SuperMICrophone: mmm
22:14 ktgster: hmm
22:14 ktgster: the stack makes the emphasize from 5 to 1 better tbh
22:15 SuperMICrophone: kk
22:15 SuperMICrophone: 01:11:645 (3,5) - feel like these would play better ctrl+g'd
22:16 SuperMICrophone: wow wtf this switch from 4/4 to 3/4 feels weird
22:16 ktgster: hmmm i guess ctrl + g would be the best here, players complained about this usually
22:17 SuperMICrophone: i win
22:17 ktgster: k not changing
22:17 SuperMICrophone: wow
22:17 SuperMICrophone: u cunt
22:17 ktgster: nah jk
22:17 SuperMICrophone: ik dw
22:17 SuperMICrophone: aw a cute lil music box section
22:17 SuperMICrophone: when does it turn into satanic streams
22:18 ktgster: there isn't any
22:18 ktgster: i have amnesia so don't trust me on that
22:18 SuperMICrophone: oh ok
22:18 SuperMICrophone: 01:48:989 (2,2) - theyre fine as is but ctrl+g is better for flow
22:19 SuperMICrophone: 01:50:865 (2) - and um i guess this
22:19 ktgster: 01:48:677 (1,2,3) - this sequence plays similar sound really
22:19 ktgster: it makes more sense for these sliders to move in the same path
22:19 SuperMICrophone: true
22:19 SuperMICrophone: very nice hitsounding
22:19 SuperMICrophone: gj
22:20 SuperMICrophone: 02:17:583 (10,1) - normally id just make this one kickslider but i guess this is ok
22:20 SuperMICrophone: 02:47:583 (10,1) - i feel like this one plays better though
22:21 SuperMICrophone: 02:48:989 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ehhhh idk how this fits in the music
22:21 ktgster: i can't see how both of those kick sliders are any different
22:22 SuperMICrophone: to fitting in the music?
22:22 SuperMICrophone: yeah theyre fine its just a personal thing
22:22 SuperMICrophone: leave if you dont want to make them into one
22:22 SuperMICrophone: 03:16:645 (23,1) - wow this makes me so sad
22:22 ktgster: 02:48:989 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - can't you hear the crescendo?
22:23 SuperMICrophone: is there any way you can like make them fit in the stream lol
22:23 ktgster: BEST STREAM IN THE MAP
22:23 ktgster: nah thats impossible with the spacing
22:23 SuperMICrophone: no i cant hear the crescendo wat
22:23 ktgster: too bad i have no idea what im saying but, there are piano sounds there
22:25 SuperMICrophone: no i cant hear any piano sounds
22:25 SuperMICrophone: i literaly just grabbed my headphones too lol
22:25 ktgster: what
22:25 ktgster: okay, how about a sound
22:26 SuperMICrophone: are you talking about that incredibly faint 1/4 techno noise
22:26 ktgster: no idea if its faint, but probably yes
22:26 SuperMICrophone: idk but alright
22:27 SuperMICrophone: 03:26:489 (3) - feel like jump is too big and too sudden, ctrl+g pls
22:27 SuperMICrophone: 03:31:177 (1,2) - and then i feel these would be read as like 1/4 apart, perhaps space further?
22:28 ktgster: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2013677 better hue huehue]
22:28 SuperMICrophone: 03:56:177 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - slowly increase spacing between sliders mebbe? because this is crescendo
22:28 SuperMICrophone: well no not crescendo more like building tension
22:28 ktgster: nah that was a joke
22:28 SuperMICrophone: wow ok fine
22:29 ktgster: but i don't have room to begin with
22:29 SuperMICrophone: o lol
22:29 ktgster: i put it upwards before, but 3 was covered by 9
22:29 ktgster: i wonder if i should revision this
22:30 SuperMICrophone: itd be so cool though if pink (2) and (3) were spaced further apart
22:30 SuperMICrophone: http://puu.sh/bqcFX/84cde88059.jpg and maybe like this
22:31 SuperMICrophone: 04:17:817 (4,5) - ctrl+g helps with flow and emphasis
22:31 SuperMICrophone: 04:18:442 (4,5) - same here
22:31 SuperMICrophone: 04:36:802 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
22:31 SuperMICrophone: 04:39:614 (4,5,6) - any reason why this is spaced closer than the prvious (4,5,6)
22:32 SuperMICrophone: kk imma wait 1 sec
22:32 ktgster: omg the lines
22:32 SuperMICrophone: im sorry
22:33 SuperMICrophone: 05:09:927 (1) - this is the most glorious long slow slider i have ever seen in my life
22:33 ktgster: [04:17:817 (4,5) - this idk if this improves flow, but its not something i want to change really
22:33 SuperMICrophone: ok
22:33 ktgster: if i change that, then i have to ctrl + g this 04:18:442 (4,5)
22:33 ktgster: and well....
22:33 SuperMICrophone: and well
22:33 SuperMICrophone: ??????????????????????????????????????????
22:33 ktgster: leave it to your imaginations
22:34 ktgster: 04:39:614 (4,5,6) - theres a little fade-out here hence lower spacing
22:34 ktgster: so any satanic streams you'd seen
22:35 SuperMICrophone: mmhmm?
22:35 SuperMICrophone: nah theyre all good
22:35 ktgster: 05:09:927 (1) - guess what i was trying to do with this
22:35 SuperMICrophone: i dont fuckin know
22:35 ktgster: if you guess right, i'll kds the post on the grave map
22:35 SuperMICrophone: last minute sliderbreak to be a fuckin dick
22:36 ktgster: nope
22:36 SuperMICrophone: also youre a cunt for never kding that post <3
22:36 SuperMICrophone: whats the reason?
22:36 ktgster: you give up?
22:36 SuperMICrophone: oh
22:36 SuperMICrophone: i get more than one guess
22:37 SuperMICrophone: while i guess can you please make this thing perfectly symmetrical https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2013693
22:37 SuperMICrophone: you have to use scaling though
22:37 SuperMICrophone: is it supposed to be a replacement for a spinner
22:38 SuperMICrophone: speaking of which do you have any spinners in this map? you might want one
22:38 ktgster: maybe
22:38 ktgster: not quite though
22:38 SuperMICrophone: hmmm
22:38 ktgster: theres a spinner at the beginning
22:38 SuperMICrophone: wow
22:38 ktgster: clearly, you forgot right?
22:38 SuperMICrophone: i did indeed
22:38 SuperMICrophone: is it like the okay symbol in the letterboxing
22:39 ktgster: no
22:39 ktgster: not even
22:39 SuperMICrophone: so the spinner idea was close
22:39 ktgster: man, not giving up, you must really want that 2 kds
22:39 SuperMICrophone: oh
22:40 SuperMICrophone: without the circle your playtime is <6 minutes
22:40 SuperMICrophone: 5*
22:40 SuperMICrophone: you cunt your max score is 113m sdahsjkhsdjh
22:40 ktgster: nah
22:40 SuperMICrophone: i literally have 2 kds on me anyway
22:40 ktgster: theres a sound after that slider so i could have double spinnered
22:40 ktgster: but thats just bad
22:40 SuperMICrophone: is it supposed to look like the sun
22:41 ktgster: speaking of which, that fadeout
22:42 SuperMICrophone: what about it
22:42 ktgster: nah, it just reminds me of a spinner sound
22:42 SuperMICrophone: ok i give up
22:43 SuperMICrophone: moving onto another
22:43 SuperMICrophone: why do you have 2 diffs
22:43 ktgster: btw, the spinner blankets the slider
22:43 SuperMICrophone: huh
22:43 ktgster: cuz Redemption is hard as shit
22:43 ktgster: actually its not but w/e
22:43 SuperMICrophone: so who cares if its approval
22:43 ktgster: well its my decision really
22:44 SuperMICrophone: oooooook
22:44 SuperMICrophone: so what were you trying to do with that slider???
22:45 SuperMICrophone: im already looking at another btw
22:45 ktgster: i just said it
22:45 ktgster: the spinner blankets the circular slider
22:45 SuperMICrophone: oh it blankets the spinner at the fucking beginning of the map
22:45 ktgster: its very easy to tell with default
22:45 ktgster: nah, there was a spinner after that slider
22:45 SuperMICrophone: what no there wasnt
22:45 SuperMICrophone: wow
22:46 ktgster: course there wasn't
22:46 ktgster: but there USED to
22:46 SuperMICrophone: youre a cheater
22:46 ktgster: that was the sliders purpose
22:46 ktgster: oh plz
22:46 SuperMICrophone: just because of that
22:46 SuperMICrophone: 01:25:239 (6,1) - one grid right pelase
22:46 SuperMICrophone: please
22:46 *SuperMICrophone is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/477346 Yooh - salvation [Another]]
22:47 ktgster: loool
22:47 SuperMICrophone: 01:33:677 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - idk why but this is ugly can you make curves
22:47 SuperMICrophone: liked move (2) right and (5) left
22:47 ktgster: i bet if i NC'd, it wouldn't look as ugly
22:47 SuperMICrophone: 01:35:552 (7,8,9) - ohhhh....
22:47 SuperMICrophone: yeah probably
22:48 ktgster: and then OMG INCONSISTENT NCING UNQUALIFIED FUCK
22:48 SuperMICrophone: lel
22:48 SuperMICrophone: if my approval map gets unqualified im going to shit a brick and throw it at qat
22:49 ktgster: now should i NC then
22:49 SuperMICrophone: yes
22:49 ktgster: k incoming 1 object NC
22:50 SuperMICrophone: 03:03:052 (4) - no i dont like this relocate it
22:50 SuperMICrophone: you should jump from (4) to (5)
22:50 SuperMICrophone: not have this awkward foreboding sense of flow stop
22:51 ktgster: brb finding a reason to justify this
22:51 SuperMICrophone: the nc
22:51 SuperMICrophone: ?
22:51 ktgster: .... that was meant to be a joke
22:51 ktgster: but im putting the 4 above 3 then
22:51 SuperMICrophone: awk
22:53 SuperMICrophone: 04:03:989 (2,4) - this calls for back andforth flow, pls ctrl+g
22:53 ktgster: oh come on, you ask it HERE and not on the OTHER diff
22:53 SuperMICrophone: hhHAhahahAhahah
22:53 ktgster: also, similar sound so not really as fitting
22:54 SuperMICrophone: i was also considering it on the other diff
22:54 SuperMICrophone: but that was like naaahhh but here the flow is slower so its ok
22:54 ktgster: while you're at it, you might as well complain those kick sliders in random directions
22:54 SuperMICrophone: oh dont even get me-
22:54 SuperMICrophone: 05:09:927 (1) - WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
22:55 ktgster: A REALLY GOOD SLIDER SIR
22:55 SuperMICrophone: THIS REALLY IS THE DEFINITION OF THE YOU TRIED STAR IN YOUR AVATAR
22:55 ktgster: NAH OBVIOUSLY NOT A COPY
22:55 SuperMICrophone: ITS NOT EVEN SYMMETRICAL
22:56 ktgster: BUT SYMMETRY IS HARD
22:56 SuperMICrophone: YOU JUST SPAM CTRL+H ITS NOT TOO DIFFICULT
22:57 ktgster: BUT [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2013722 HTTPS://OSU.PPY.SH/SS/2013772]
22:57 SuperMICrophone: where that fucking rule about sliders overlapping themselves
22:57 ktgster: no clue
22:57 SuperMICrophone: im going to FORCE YOU to DELETE THAT SHIT
22:58 ktgster: $10 per tick
22:58 SuperMICrophone: i cant even see that link
22:58 SuperMICrophone: youd you put it in caps
22:58 SuperMICrophone: whyd*
22:58 ktgster: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2013722
22:59 SuperMICrophone: EWWWW THATS SO UGLY
23:00 ktgster: so yeah, fetching $300 to delete this slider?
23:00 SuperMICrophone: http://puu.sh/bqewW/7661636c23.jpg TWO SECONDS
23:00 SuperMICrophone: TWO FUCKING SECONDS
23:00 SuperMICrophone: yeah my ass
23:00 ktgster: sorry, im not a symmetrical god okay
23:00 SuperMICrophone: k i dont even know why i did that
23:00 SuperMICrophone: please delete this
23:00 SuperMICrophone: no
23:01 ktgster: b-but itz coolz
23:05 ktgster: k i just copied the slider from ReDEMPTION
23:08 SuperMICrophone: http://puu.sh/bqf2J/2d8e3cbc14.jpg i have no idea how to not make this atrocious
23:08 SuperMICrophone: actually it looks pretty decent
23:08 SuperMICrophone: do you want code
23:08 ktgster: sure
23:09 ktgster: loool
23:09 SuperMICrophone: ok
23:10 SuperMICrophone: im going to savelog this then make a post on topic with code
23:10 SuperMICrophone: very strong mapset, good job

here's your smelly slider

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Raiku
I'm going to look into modding this properly very soon!

I'd like to see a couple more mods first and then we can start talking business.
xxdeathx
IRC modded

SPOILER
16:46 xxdeathx: 01:12:114 (5,6,1) - this is really hard to read
16:46 xxdeathx: it's also hard to hit a circle 1/8 tick after the slider without breaking combo or getting 100 (missing the slider's last tick)
16:47 ktgster: moved it down and removed a repeat
16:47 xxdeathx: 01:12:270 (6,1) - will read easier if you move 01:12:114 (5) - away so it doesn't stack
16:48 xxdeathx: you could consider that too
16:48 ktgster: and that means RIP star pattern
16:49 xxdeathx: i didn't even notice star pattern
16:49 xxdeathx: you could move 01:12:270 (6,1) - then
16:50 ktgster: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2063260 this is what i did]
16:50 xxdeathx: yeah that's fine
16:50 xxdeathx: 01:24:926 (5,6) - kind of nazi but they're not exactly lined up
16:50 xxdeathx: move 01:25:239 (6,1) - to the right a bit
16:52 ktgster: fixed
16:52 ktgster: 01:23:989 (5,6) - and you forgot this lol
16:52 xxdeathx: yeah lol
16:55 xxdeathx: you have a lot of 6 note streams like 03:25:864 (5,6,7,8,1,2) - in the last kiai
16:56 xxdeathx: usually people are only used to streams with odd numbers of notes
16:56 ktgster: its another
16:56 ktgster: this is also a kiai
16:56 ktgster: why not add a challenge
16:56 ktgster: it also has a slider for mistakes just in case
16:56 xxdeathx: i don't know, i'm not cut out to play these maps myself
16:56 ktgster: its not like 4 note stream with a note underneath the last one
16:59 xxdeathx: 04:18:989 (2,3) - to me two straight vertical sliders look kinda boring
16:59 xxdeathx: how about make 04:18:677 (1,2) - parallel and 04:19:302 (3,4) - parallel
17:00 ktgster: i guess it would be cool
17:00 ktgster: then again, both are fine so i might not change it
17:00 xxdeathx: okay
17:01 *xxdeathx is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/427090 Yooh - salvation [Redemption]]
17:02 xxdeathx: you should call this diff 4 dimensions
17:02 xxdeathx: because this mapset reminds me of freedom dive :O
17:04 xxdeathx: did i dc?
17:04 ktgster: i have no idea
17:04 ktgster: cuz you said nothing
17:04 xxdeathx: i think i did
17:04 xxdeathx: yeah i probably did
17:04 xxdeathx: i restarted osu
17:05 xxdeathx: 00:45:708 (5,6) - want to blanket these?
17:06 ktgster: done
17:07 xxdeathx: did i tell you this diff is like 4 dimensions?
17:08 ktgster: no
17:08 ktgster: you did want to call this 4 dimensions
17:08 xxdeathx: lol
17:08 ktgster: even though its not 4 dimensions because no SUPER DEATHSTREAM DAJHIFJDKFHDJKFHJKDFNHJK
17:08 xxdeathx: those streams are deadly enough for a playe rlike me
17:09 xxdeathx: 02:25:239 (1,2,1,2,1) - i don't think NCing every pair of notes is necessary
17:10 ktgster: true
17:10 ktgster: bleh patterning and NCing is annoying to figure out
17:10 xxdeathx: my own mapping style isn't one to spam NC's so i tend to point those sort of things out
17:10 ktgster: did i mention these streams are easier than snow storm?
17:11 xxdeathx: i don't know what snow storm is
17:11 xxdeathx: but i can't play any long streams myself
17:11 xxdeathx: or fast bpm
17:11 ktgster: [https://osu.ppy.sh/s/158075 this]
17:12 xxdeathx: lol
17:12 xxdeathx: 5.74 stars
17:12 xxdeathx: looks scary
17:13 xxdeathx: 03:26:177 (1) - DS is different on both sisdes
17:13 xxdeathx: sides*
17:13 ktgster: [03:26:177 (1,2) - this?
17:13 ktgster: because thats intentional
17:14 xxdeathx: okay
17:14 xxdeathx: i had a look at 03:28:677 (1) - and thought it wasn't consistent
17:15 xxdeathx: 03:32:661 (4,5) - splitting the stream here doesn't make sense to me because there's a drum beat at 03:32:739, nothing at 03:32:817, and another music note at 03:32:895 (6) -
17:16 xxdeathx: http://puu.sh/bK1Bm/cc6f3aaaec.png is simpler
17:17 ktgster: i actually skip that note in every section of the kiai
17:17 xxdeathx: hmm ok
17:18 xxdeathx: o.o
17:20 xxdeathx: 05:09:927 (1) - why don't you make a fancy shape like you did for another?
17:21 ktgster: b-but i didn't make it
17:21 xxdeathx: o.o?
17:22 xxdeathx: well that's all i found
grumd
epic map woho
Flower
Yoo
solid diffs. can't actually pick any flaws.

[Redemption]
02:25:864 (5,6) - change distance to 0.8x or 0.9x. currently this looks a bit too tight. also 02:25:239 (1,2) - 1.5x, 02:25:552 (3,4) - 1.2x, and following the geometric sequence or arithmetic sequence can be cooler.
03:24:614 (7) - I'll prefer a 3/4 slider. up to you
03:43:833 (2) - change sample to normal or change rhythm
04:00:317 (6,7) - moving 1/4 later should follow the rhythm better.
04:09:458 (5) - 04:16:645 (3) - 04:17:270 (3) - isn't actually parallel with previous sliders. use ctrl+shit+s.
05:09:927 (1) - also make some cool shape?

[Another]
suggest increasing stack leniency. plays sick when hitting consecutive 1/1 stacks
00:07:270 (3,4,1) - move right-down further. auto stack spoils its actual spacing
05:09:927 (1) - the top is too tall imo. move vertex (4th red node) to 256,92

Call me back when you replied to the mod. Good luck!
SuperMIC
thanks flower, now i am ktg's slider slave ;_;

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Topic Starter
ktgster
Flower

Flower wrote:

Yoo
solid diffs. can't actually pick any flaws.

[Redemption]
02:25:864 (5,6) - change distance to 0.8x or 0.9x. currently this looks a bit too tight. also 02:25:239 (1,2) - 1.5x, 02:25:552 (3,4) - 1.2x, and following the geometric sequence or arithmetic sequence can be cooler. - changed to 1.5x -> 1.3x -> 1.1x for consistency
03:24:614 (7) - I'll prefer a 3/4 slider. up to you - nah, it ruins the feeling of the first slider of the kiai to me
03:43:833 (2) - change sample to normal or change rhythm - changed the rhythm
04:00:317 (6,7) - moving 1/4 later should follow the rhythm better. - RIP stream pattern
04:09:458 (5) - 04:16:645 (3) - 04:17:270 (3) - isn't actually parallel with previous sliders. use ctrl+shit+s. - wow, the preciseness
05:09:927 (1) - also make some cool shape? - MIC posts says it all

[Another]
suggest increasing stack leniency. plays sick when hitting consecutive 1/1 stacks - maybe, but the stacks do ruin my spacing a bit... I don't know
00:07:270 (3,4,1) - move right-down further. auto stack spoils its actual spacing - uhh, the stack is suppose to be stacking, do you want me to get rid of the stack?
05:09:927 (1) - the top is too tall imo. move vertex (4th red node) to 256,92 - done

Call me back when you replied to the mod. Good luck!
Flower
Okay, everything seems to be fine. Let's get it moving.

Bubble #1
Natteke desu
second one
Raiku
no more mods, ranking this after work tonight
Irreversible
but ranking ktgster's maps is an irre thing D:
DakeDekaane
No, an Irre thing is popping ktg's bubbled maps to add more diffs 8-)
Irreversible
i'm out
Raiku
I have been test playing this map since it was first conceived a while back and I've got to know this map very well, in fact this is my favorite map of all time. As far as i can see from a technical standpoint everything is there, but what matters most is the playability; and it plays incredibly from the flowing sliders to the well structured streams in the final kiai.

At least I can approve my first map now and I'm happy its this one! Have some supa hot fire.

Congratulations!
Piine
Raiku popped his approving virginity~ woot

Gratz
Cherry Blossom
Gratz o/
gg i'm mad now, i want to FC it ;w;
Lust
Congrats!
Lach
They will never know. ehehehe
Topic Starter
ktgster

Irreversible wrote:

but ranking ktgster's maps is an irre thing D:
Isn't this why you shouldn't have been a QAT :)

Also PP goldfarm 2014!

Thanks for all the support!
grumd
just opened osu! to play this map and seen it ranked
legendary
grats
Irreversible
really neat!
hehe
fianlly! :)) now waiting sionkotori :p
Raging Bull
Damnit Yooh, good song.
sionKotori
congratz :)

handsome wrote:

fianlly! :)) now waiting sionkotori :p
plz mod plz ((
P o M u T a
:D
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