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Debatable Mafia: Game Over! Town PRs survives!

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VoidnOwO
:)
Topic Starter
Setsuen

DakeDekaane wrote:

Shoot: NH
8-)
DakeDekaane reveals a gun and shoots NoHitter!
The gun backfires and shoots DakeDekaane. Apparently it was a fabbed gun given by a fabricator. The mod decides to revive DD because this set-up is apparently scum-sided.

Okay back to the game.............and stop shooting fabbed guns TY.

Setsuen wrote:

Setsuen wrote:

Votecount 1.2

With 9Alive, it takes 5 to lynch

StaticNoiseBird[0]
CalignoBot[1]-StaticNoiseBird
NoHitter[1]-BRBP
BRBP[1]-CalignoBot
Gumica[1]-Drezi
rEdo[0]
fartownik[1]-NoHitter
DakeDekaane[0]
Drezi[1]-rEdo
Not voting:,fartownik,DakeDekaane,Gumica
If there is any mistakes please inform me.
rEdo
Unvote
Vote: DakeDekaane


Setsuen wrote:

The mod decides to revive DD because this set-up is apparently scum-sided.
Damn, way too many good things happen to scum...
fartownik
The mod just scumslipped GG no re
DakeDekaane
I'm not scumerino, pls no voterino :((
DakeDekaane
fuck smiley
NoHitter

BRBP wrote:

Still waiting for NH to suggest something stupid like a massclaim.
C'mon man, it's been 15 hours already, I know you want to.
I can't sleep unless I get to know whether I was already caught by CB or if he's still in RVS. 8-) 8-) 8-)
I don't always suggest something stupid. I'm just normally opposed to the status quo way of doing this thing.
Still finding a way to see if we can rig the setup for a town win though.
Topic Starter
Setsuen
Vote Count 1.3
With 9Alive, it takes 5 to lynch

StaticNoiseBird[0]
CalignoBot[1]-StaticNoiseBird
NoHitter[1]-BRBP
BRBP[1]-CalignoBot
Gumica[1]-Drezi
rEdo[0]
fartownik[1]-NoHitter
DakeDekaane[1]-rEdo
Drezi[0]
Not voting:,fartownik,DakeDekaane,Gumica

If there is any mistakes please inform me.

fartownik wrote:

The mod just scumslipped GG no re
lol wut.
fartownik
@mod: if the Mafia Vigilante posts his kill action in the thread instead of PM, would it still work?
Topic Starter
Setsuen

fartownik wrote:

@mod: if the Mafia Vigilante posts his kill action in the thread instead of PM, would it still work?
no. I'm pretty sure sample PM said to PM me about the shot. <.<
NoHitter
Oh farto gets town points for that question.
VoidnOwO
:)
VoidnOwO
:)
DakeDekaane
It'd be too stupid to post action in thread being a Mafia Dayvig, at least I'm happy we have smart scum between us.
DakeDekaane
also big FoS on rEdo
VoidnOwO
:)
Topic Starter
Setsuen

BRBP wrote:

Requesting mod to prod drezi, SNB and gumica.
:^)

prodded.
Birdy
Sorry, was gone for some time, and didn't have time to check this particular thread yet. But I'm here now.
Drezi
@BRBP: farto and NH being scums together might be a bit far fetched, actually NH looks more like town to me, connecting himself to his scum buddy at this point already wouldn't make much sense imo.

@Dake: yeah that would be the natural deduction, not sure why you'd go ahead to state it explicitly in that case.
Gumica
Being this punctual on prods this early on? what are you? Alien v2 (reffering to last newbie), who wins by prodding others?
jkjk. Anyways, sorry for not responding within 24h, I was working at a job, so I didn't had any time avaliable for forum. :^)
VoidnOwO
:)
fartownik
Not sure if it's BRBP's purpose, but I find him unusually town-looking.

NoHitter wrote:

Oh farto gets town points for that question.
NH gets scumpoints for setting up for my eventual future death from the Dayvig

hue
DakeDekaane
inb4 NH actually dies.

Vote: rEdo
rEdo
the omgus votes are real ^_^
VoidnOwO
:)
fartownik
K, because why not.

Claim: 1-Shot Bulletproof
DakeDekaane
not sure if farto is still trolling or claiming for sure
Birdy

BRBP wrote:

Gumica wrote:

Being this punctual on prods this early on? what are you? Alien v2 (reffering to last newbie), who wins by prodding others?
jkjk. Anyways, sorry for not responding within 24h, I was working at a job, so I didn't had any time avaliable for forum. :^)

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Sorry, was gone for some time, and didn't have time to check this particular thread yet. But I'm here now.
Thanks for contributing, see you again in 24 hours...
No, I'm pretty sure I'm not leaving home for the next several days.
VoidnOwO
:)
VoidnOwO
non-vt town... derp.
Topic Starter
Setsuen

BRBP wrote:

Does scum have daychat?
Can doc target the same person every night?
Can doc target himself?
They have Day chat for Day1 only.
Yes
No.

Setsuen wrote:

Vote Count 1.4
With 9Alive, it takes 5 to lynch

StaticNoiseBird[0]
CalignoBot[1]-StaticNoiseBird
NoHitter[1]-BRBP
BRBP[1]-CalignoBot
Gumica[1]-Drezi
rEdo[1]-DakeDekaane
fartownik[1]-NoHitter
DakeDekaane[1]-rEdo
Drezi[0]
Not voting:,fartownik,Gumica
If there is any mistakes please inform me.

BRBP wrote:

Thanks for contributing, see you again in 24 hours...
next time I host another game, it might be 10P with 7towns,2mafia & 1alien who wins by probing/prodding everyone who's alive.
Amianki
Prod dodge. I'm reading and forming thoughts now.
Amianki

DakeDekaane wrote:

Shoot: NH
8-)
Scum vibes.

rEdo wrote:

Unvote
Vote: DakeDekaane


Setsuen wrote:

The mod decides to revive DD because this set-up is apparently scum-sided.
Damn, way too many good things happen to scum...
Town vibes.

NoHitter wrote:

BRBP wrote:

Still waiting for NH to suggest something stupid like a massclaim.
C'mon man, it's been 15 hours already, I know you want to.
I can't sleep unless I get to know whether I was already caught by CB or if he's still in RVS. 8-) 8-) 8-)
I don't always suggest something stupid. I'm just normally opposed to the status quo way of doing this thing.
Still finding a way to see if we can rig the setup for a town win though.
I'm not liking this post. The way his thoughts travel from sentence to sentence looks off.

BRBP wrote:

fartownik wrote:

@mod: if the Mafia Vigilante posts his kill action in the thread instead of PM, would it still work?

NoHitter wrote:

Oh farto gets town points for that question.
Are you saying you didn't think of that question immediately when DD said "shoot: NH"?
Whether the vig shot actually works or not when posted in thread makes no difference, you can't "test" it in any way since the real scum could just submit their action via PM, or even cancel it if the person being tested happens to be the scum vig.

Stop giving your scumbuddy town points :roll:
I don't really agree, but this is town thinking. BRBP's post after this one is making me wary, though.

DakeDekaane wrote:

It'd be too stupid to post action in thread being a Mafia Dayvig, at least I'm happy we have smart scum between us.
Explain yourself here.

DakeDekaane wrote:

also big FoS on rEdo
Explain yourself here too.

Drezi wrote:

@BRBP: farto and NH being scums together might be a bit far fetched, actually NH looks more like town to me, connecting himself to his scum buddy at this point already wouldn't make much sense imo.

@Dake: yeah that would be the natural deduction, not sure why you'd go ahead to state it explicitly in that case.
Town posting.

DakeDekaane wrote:

not sure if farto is still trolling or claiming for sure
This looks too reserved to me. Not liking it.

BRBP wrote:

I really can't see why real BP would spontaneously claim it D1 when nobody has any real town-reads on him. I can see why scum or non-VT town would claim it, though.

Would you like to explain that claim farto?
Role fishing. Scummy.
Amianki
List of Players:
1.StaticNoiseBird --- Null
2.
3.NoHitter --- Null-Scum
4.BRBP --- Null-Scum
5.Gumica --- Null
6.rEdo --- Null-Town
7.fartownik --- Null-Town
8.DakeDekaane --- Scum
9.Drezi --- Town

Unvote: BRBP
Vote: DakeDekaane
Birdy
Oh yeah, I guess I still got my vote on CB.

Unvote
Amianki
SNB what are your thoughts on the game?
Birdy
CalignoBot - Aside from voting me for no reason on the very first post, no suspicions. Yet.
NoHitter - Haven't paid attention yet. Yet.
BRBP - Plays extreme-town, therefore might be anything.
Gumica - Nothing.
rEdo - Nothing here either.
fartownik - Suspicious claim (not referring to the mafia one btw) and a stupid damn question. Would suspect for both reasons.
DakeDekaane - Scumslipping for lols because nobody takes him seriously anyway. Would suspect.
Drezi - Hides in the shadows. Another "could be anything" case, at the moment.
Birdy
Oh and also, not sure why would BRBP ask about scum daychat, as if he knew about it, now that it exists. I don't think that's a common theme in mafia games, thus that's rather suspicious.
DakeDekaane
rEdo is scum for the mere fact of taking advantage of the mod "scumslip" to put a vote there, also for being a lurksack.
Amianki
How did you reach that conclusion? Specifically talking about the first reason.
What makes rEdo's lurking worse than anyone else's lurking?
You didn't answer my other question.
VoidnOwO
:)
Drezi
I dont buy that logic for suspecting rEdo either.

I'm leaning towards BRBP town for now, since this pro-town behavior would be hard to keep up as scum in the long run.
Birdy

BRBP wrote:

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Oh and also, not sure why would BRBP ask about scum daychat, as if he knew about it, now that it exists. I don't think that's a common theme in mafia games, thus that's rather suspicious.
I had daychat in most of the games I played as scum.
I'm still a complete newbie, so I guess I hadn't seen enough previously. Doesn't change the fact, that this really is the first time I see one, and you guessed it blindly.
Amianki

Drezi wrote:

I dont buy that logic for suspecting rEdo either.

I'm leaning towards BRBP town for now, since this pro-town behavior would be hard to keep up as scum in the long run.
Who are you leaning on for scum atm.
Gumica

BRBP wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

rEdo is scum for the mere fact of taking advantage of the mod "scumslip" to put a vote there, also for being a lurksack.
How is it any different from gumica (who I constantly see in "users browsing this forum")?
Get used to that. It ain't anywhere different from any other games I played.
Now give a better answer to DD's question. Using me as a escape goat is a bad example.
Drezi
You.

1) That question
Feels forced is all, I see no reason for town to hurry my views based on what we have so far.

2) Your contribution looks pretty constructive at first sight, ends up being rather vague upon further inspection.
These points:

CalignoBot wrote:

List of Players:
3.NoHitter --- Null-Scum
4.BRBP --- Null-Scum
6.rEdo --- Null-Town
7.fartownik --- Null-Town
8.DakeDekaane --- Scum
NH and farto - all im seeing is some reaction testing, trolling around basically, yet one is null-scum, the other is null-town? pretty big contrast based on what we've seen so far.
BRBP - his first quote you say is town thinking, but becomes null-scum right after that because of role fishing, this ends up being ambiguous in the end any way I look at it, why not offer a straight opinion right away?
rEdo - town vibes you say, well what you quoted is 100% neutral I'd say.
DD - scumcall outright just yet is too harsh in my eyes.
DakeDekaane
I always find funny how everyone scumread me in the start of a game.

CalignoBot wrote:

What makes rEdo's lurking worse than anyone else's lurking?
Check rEdo's reaction when voted.
Check anyone else's reaction when voted.
Birdy

DakeDekaane wrote:

I always find funny how everyone scumread me in the start of a game.
Maybe it's by the things you post, perhaps? "Scumslipping" for lols and such, you know.

And then you find it even funny. Okay.
Drezi
Actually, let's do this - I'm okay with flipping rEdo, since hes the most controversial person right now (CB and BRBP defending kinda, DD strongly accusing him).

Also he's the only one under accusation to be subtly defended in CB's analysis and DD who had been attacking him was scumread by him (pretty much for that reason only) , so it looks like a reasonable choice. While statistically we're most likely to lynch town D1, flipping someone passive, lurky or just simply scummy doesn't give as much info as someone who generated strong opposing opinions.

Unvote: Gumica
Vote: rEdo
rEdo
And as usual, getting there after a few pages have been written.

You know, Dake, what is more interesting, is the fact that you voted me with an actual farfetched scumvibe after I voted in a semi-serious manner. My "the omgus is real" post was a real quick response to your vote after I got a notice via e-mail that there's a response in this thread. I believe it's always the best to throw even the littliest thought in the thread instead of "le prod dodging" when you don't have enough time to actually get into analysis.

farto's claim is obviously just to create WIFOM, I don't even know why BRBP tries to fish a role from him.

I don't like how CB reads my vote on DD as town behaviour, either.

The rest seems lurky and/or are taking the most neutral path there is.
Topic Starter
Setsuen

DakeDekaane wrote:

rEdo is scum for the mere fact of taking advantage of the mod "scumslip" to put a vote there, also for being a lurksack.
Scum slip when mod is WIFOM master who no one knows whether he is WIFOMing or not. #pro.

Setsuen wrote:

Vote Count 1.5
With 9Alive, it takes 5 to lynch

StaticNoiseBird[0]
CalignoBot[1]-StaticNoiseBird
NoHitter[1]-BRBP
BRBP[1]-CalignoBot
Gumica[0]
rEdo[2]-DakeDekaane,Drezi
fartownik[1]-NoHitter
DakeDekaane[1]-rEdo
Drezi[0]
Not voting:,fartownik,Gumica
If there is any mistakes please inform me.
Deadline will end in ~3days 23hr(Sunday 9:20am GMT +8)
fartownik

Static Noise Bird wrote:

fartownik - Suspicious claim (not referring to the mafia one btw) and a stupid damn question. Would suspect for both reasons.
It wasn't a stupid question. If the mod agreed on that one, we'd have Dake 50% confirmed as Town. It was worth a shot, really.

rEdo wrote:

farto's claim is obviously just to create WIFOM, I don't even know why BRBP tries to fish a role from him.
Pretty nice, exactly my thoughts. Seems odd that BRBP didn't manage to think that through.
Amianki

Drezi wrote:

You.

1) That question
Feels forced is all, I see no reason for town to hurry my views based on what we have so far.
On the contrary. Having content from every single player in the game early is the single best way to start the game off. It doesn't matter if your only views up to that point are pulled from your ass, as it's still content that can be responded to and added upon.

Drezi wrote:

2) Your contribution looks pretty constructive at first sight, ends up being rather vague upon further inspection.
These points:

CalignoBot wrote:

List of Players:
3.NoHitter --- Null-Scum
4.BRBP --- Null-Scum
6.rEdo --- Null-Town
7.fartownik --- Null-Town
8.DakeDekaane --- Scum
Being vague is actually generally how I play this game. I'm attempting to lessen this in order to be less of a frustrating person to play with, but I still maintain that restricting certain info can result in more information later than otherwise.

Drezi wrote:

NH and farto - all im seeing is some reaction testing, trolling around basically, yet one is null-scum, the other is null-town? pretty big contrast based on what we've seen so far.
The NoHitter point was explained in the post directly above it. The fartownik null-town read was gut.

Drezi wrote:

]BRBP - his first quote you say is town thinking, but becomes null-scum right after that because of role fishing, this ends up being ambiguous in the end any way I look at it, why not offer a straight opinion right away?
The role fishing post and the other post that gave me pause about him is enough to overturn the positive point in his favor.

Drezi wrote:

rEdo - town vibes you say, well what you quoted is 100% neutral I'd say.
Explain.

Drezi wrote:

DD - scumcall outright just yet is too harsh in my eyes.
:^)
Amianki
Oh.

I missed an endquote tag somewhere.

---

Drezi wrote:

You.

1) That question
Feels forced is all, I see no reason for town to hurry my views based on what we have so far.
On the contrary. Having content from every single player in the game early is the single best way to start the game off. It doesn't matter if your only views up to that point are pulled from your ass, as it's still content that can be responded to and added upon.

Drezi wrote:

2) Your contribution looks pretty constructive at first sight, ends up being rather vague upon further inspection.
These points:

CalignoBot wrote:

List of Players:
3.NoHitter --- Null-Scum
4.BRBP --- Null-Scum
6.rEdo --- Null-Town
7.fartownik --- Null-Town
8.DakeDekaane --- Scum
Being vague is actually generally how I play this game. I'm attempting to lessen this in order to be less of a frustrating person to play with, but I still maintain that restricting certain info can result in more information later than otherwise.

Drezi wrote:

NH and farto - all im seeing is some reaction testing, trolling around basically, yet one is null-scum, the other is null-town? pretty big contrast based on what we've seen so far.
The NoHitter point was explained in the post directly above it. The fartownik null-town read was gut.

Drezi wrote:

]BRBP - his first quote you say is town thinking, but becomes null-scum right after that because of role fishing, this ends up being ambiguous in the end any way I look at it, why not offer a straight opinion right away?
The role fishing post and the other post that gave me pause about him is enough to overturn the positive point in his favor.

Drezi wrote:

rEdo - town vibes you say, well what you quoted is 100% neutral I'd say.
Explain.

Drezi wrote:

DD - scumcall outright just yet is too harsh in my eyes.
[/quote]

:^)
NoHitter
On a phone so can't quote. Apologies in advance.

@caligno
That was probably because I forgot to add an enter to separate the two sentences.

@brbp
Why go for a lurker lynch when there are clearly more suspicious people ATM?

Redo's answer to dake's remarks is even more interesting. They bear a bit of straw grasping a bit, and instead of directly commenting, goes to attack Dake in a "you did something more suspicious" tone.

Also I agree that Dake is maybe 60% town given setsuen's reaction.

vote: redo

I've thought of that strategy btw and it's heall hard to win properly. That dayvig makes it impossible for normal claiming. If a mc were to happen, we need to claim all actions done before they send in the day kill pm. No claiming then waiting for cc before presenting results.
Birdy
Bump.

I'll post more thoughts after re-reading stuff.
Birdy
Ah, whatever.

Basically, rEdo is just panic-mode at the moment, and BRBP is voting badly for no proper reason. Worthy keeping an eye on this duo.

@farto: the question was a question with an obvious answer; no proper scum would post their shooting in thread for giggles or by accident. Not sure why is DD so "town" in your eyes, especially because OF, not ASIDE FROM that Setsuen reaction, but let's hope that's the case. Same goes to NH. I'm just overreacting to lolscumslips, possibly. Also, more recent thoughts, you're not giving scumvibes, just slight confusion and wtf-moments.

I'm having my ADD moments in here, so I hope I'm not being too unclear.
fartownik
^ i have no idea where I said that DD is Town for me, please read correctly. The question was with an obvious answer, but it's the mod's reaction I wanted to know, not player's. IF (somehow) the mod slipped and said that the kill by posting in the thread is POSSIBLE, that'd make Dake 50% Town. Is that clear enough?
Birdy
Now that you word it like that, yes. I understood it the exact opposite way. Apologies.
rEdo
Bah, just how is that panic mode. I'm merely looking for explanation behind these votes. The only logic behind DD's vote is the "OMGUS", while Drezi and NH have just happily added their vote to that. I also have no idea why would my reaction be worse than anybody else's.

Also, if you guys really want to base your reads on mod's reactions, then... I actually feel sorry for you >_>" My vote was just to see how DD reacts, and here I am happy with my vote.
Topic Starter
Setsuen

rEdo wrote:

Also, if you guys really want to base your reads on mod's reactions, then... I actually feel sorry for you >_>" My vote was just to see how DD reacts, and here I am happy with my vote.
I don't slip during reactions. Heck how would ANYONE even know if I slipped when I can WIFOM everything?
*makes everyone shoot a fabbed gun and revive them afterwards*

Setsuen wrote:

Vote Count 1.6
With 9Alive, it takes 5 to lynch

StaticNoiseBird[0]
CalignoBot[0]
NoHitter[2]-BRBP,CalignoBot
BRBP[0]
Gumica[0]
rEdo[L-2]-DakeDekaane,Drezi,NoHitter
fartownik[0]
DakeDekaane[1]-rEdo
Drezi[0]
Not voting:StaticNoiseBird,fartownik,Gumica
If there is any mistakes please inform me.
Drezi
@rEdo: your thoughts on BRBP, Calgno and NH?
rEdo
Setsuen... just shut the fuck up. You're not playing the game, nobody needs your WIFOM. Thank you.

Caligno seems trying to figure out stuff. Hell no idea where the town vibes on me are coming from, though. Null for now. Same thing with BRBP, however the rolefishing thingie stinks even more.

As for NoHitter, I don't like his vote on me without proper reasoning either. I mean, is that actually a bad thing that I stated my reasons why DD seems suspicious to me?
Birdy
@Setsuen: I'm pretty sure I had unvoted CalignoBot earlier.
Amianki

NoHitter wrote:

@brbp
Why go for a lurker lynch when there are clearly more suspicious people ATM?
Explain this.
Amianki

NoHitter wrote:

Redo's answer to dake's remarks is even more interesting. They bear a bit of straw grasping a bit, and instead of directly commenting, goes to attack Dake in a "you did something more suspicious" tone.
Unvote: DakeDekaane
Vote: NoHitter

Dake's first reason for voting rEdo was the single most straw-grasping thing in the entire thread thus far and the second reason applies to half of the playerlist.

This entire set of reasoning gives me an entirely bad feeling all around. He's not trying to find scum with this. He's trying to twist a situation to make it look like he is.
Topic Starter
Setsuen

Static Noise Bird wrote:

@Setsuen: I'm pretty sure I had unvoted CalignoBot earlier.
updated.
Gumica
Ok, so I've had some time to reread this game while at work, cause my boss isn't around *yatta*

Anyway, my conclusion is as stands:
SNB seems to be searching for reasons behind rEDO & BRBP, but hasn't posted much anyways, so Null for me.
CB seems the most pro-town with his investigative attitude
NH ehhh? Null
BRBP hasn't really done much usefull other than random voting and phishing, so he's leaning towards scum for me.
REDO made a "scumslip" by voting DD. DD was obviously trolling, but my sceptical character is getting better of me, so I'm willing to trust him for now.
FARTO is null for now. His claims are ........ tho.
DD going with OMGUS, scum for that (for now)

now we get to the most interesting player here.

DREZI feels town for his argumentation and scepticism. BUT, the one thing that makes you scum is your change of heart from CB to rEdo in 1 hour. I don't like that, and I'd like to have an explanation of this. Furthermore you had rEdo as a town read but changed it to scumread within that 1 hour too.

Drezi wrote:

I dont buy that logic for suspecting rEdo either.
>36h ago; You're implying you are in favour of rEdo

Drezi wrote:

rEdo - town vibes you say, well what you quoted is 100% neutral I'd say.
>34h ago; still being in favour of rEdo

Drezi wrote:

Actually, let's do this - I'm okay with flipping rEdo, since hes the most controversial person right now (CB and BRBP defending kinda, DD strongly accusing him).
Unvote: Gumica
Vote: rEdo
>33h; You see, here you switched from CB (your biggest scumread) to rEdo (your townread).



Now, explain. And it'd better be a good one.
Vote: Drezi
Drezi

Drezi wrote:

I dont buy that logic for suspecting rEdo either.
it was just an RVS vote, a bad reason for a scumread, my read is not automatically the opposite - it's null

Drezi wrote:

rEdo - town vibes you say, well what you quoted is 100% neutral I'd say.
i'm dismissing an unjustified TOWN read here - still null for me as can be seen in the comment exactly.

it was CB's post that made me slightly suspicious of him, also I haven't switched from CB, I just didn't feel a vote on him right now would have achieved anything in particular.

i'd give you townpoints for your post, if it wasn't for the part where you imply that i'm townreading rEdo (to make a big contrast with my vote), despite it being pretty obviously wrong. i'm gonna believe that it wasn't on purpose though, so null for now.
Gumica
I see. Alright, then why did you pick rEdo in particiluar. Saying that rEdo is controversial is hardly a reason for voting. And especially when you had a bigger scumread on your hands. Also if you wouldnt achieve anything with CB, then what would you achieve with rEdo?
Drezi
Wow, me making my expectations public would defeat the purpose, scumpoints for asking.
Gumica
Wow, if you don't explain your resoning, it's the same as if you'd vote without a reason and be a scum. I'm definately sticking to you now.
Amianki
Prod dodge.

Don't really have any time to respond now and I won't be available again until after entering prod range.
Topic Starter
Setsuen
BRBP and DakeDekaane has been prodded
Try not to get this game killed by inactivity........ <.<
Birdy
While on the other hand, changing opinions by looking at the game more properly shouldn't be considered a scummy move, Drezi was an improbable scum (while being a probable one for the sheer fact that they played as a "town" well), and now they are just being murky, mainly for changing their opinions. When doing so, don't be so damn mysterious and try to steer away from the fact that you are not willing to explain things properly, if you want to be taken seriously - justify your suspicions and reasonings et cetera. Is CB your scumpartner, perhaps? Semi-defending attitude at him, while trying to get rEdo hanged, while still "suspecting" both. Elaborate, for God's sake. I'm probably getting scumpoints for being curious, too, am I right?

BRBP still needs to talk more, too. I'm not going to throw a shitty lurker vote in that direction, unlike they did at a particular ex-lurker, though.
DakeDekaane
Post.

Drezi, town would be happy to know your reasons to vote a person, so you can actually achieve something
NoHitter

CalignoBot wrote:

NoHitter wrote:

Redo's answer to dake's remarks is even more interesting. They bear a bit of straw grasping a bit, and instead of directly commenting, goes to attack Dake in a "you did something more suspicious" tone.
Unvote: DakeDekaane
Vote: NoHitter

Dake's first reason for voting rEdo was the single most straw-grasping thing in the entire thread thus far and the second reason applies to half of the playerlist.

This entire set of reasoning gives me an entirely bad feeling all around. He's not trying to find scum with this. He's trying to twist a situation to make it look like he is.
(also rEdo)
I think you're the one twisting my words here.
I'm voting rEdo because of how he replied and reacted to Dake.
VoidnOwO
:)
Birdy
That was more an asshole move than a nervous move, just saying.
Topic Starter
Setsuen

BRBP wrote:

Mod when is the deadline?
Deadline is in 49hr 40min from this post.


Setsuen wrote:

Vote Count 1.7
With 9Alive, it takes 5 to lynch

StaticNoiseBird[0]
CalignoBot[0]
NoHitter[1]CalignoBot
BRBP[0]
Gumica[0]
rEdo[L-2]-DakeDekaane,Drezi,NoHitter
fartownik[0]
DakeDekaane[1]-rEdo
Drezi[1]-Gumica
Not voting:StaticNoiseBird,fartownik,BRBP
If there is any mistakes, please inform me.
rEdo

NoHitter wrote:

I'm voting rEdo because of how he replied and reacted to Dake.
And this is everything you've got to say?

Unvote
Vote: NoHitter
Amianki

NoHitter wrote:

(also rEdo)
I think you're the one twisting my words here.
I'm voting rEdo because of how he replied and reacted to Dake.
Except that justification doesn't really work with the context of what actually happened. The scenario I posted before shows that Dake's attack was ridiculously weak, and rEdo had already voted for Dake before that point. I don't understand at all how responding by attacking is grasping at straws or not directly commenting on the attack on him itself is scummy in this situation.
Amianki

Static Noise Bird wrote:

While on the other hand, changing opinions by looking at the game more properly shouldn't be considered a scummy move, Drezi was an improbable scum (while being a probable one for the sheer fact that they played as a "town" well), and now they are just being murky, mainly for changing their opinions. When doing so, don't be so damn mysterious and try to steer away from the fact that you are not willing to explain things properly, if you want to be taken seriously - justify your suspicions and reasonings et cetera. Is CB your scumpartner, perhaps? Semi-defending attitude at him, while trying to get rEdo hanged, while still "suspecting" both. Elaborate, for God's sake. I'm probably getting scumpoints for being curious, too, am I right?

BRBP still needs to talk more, too. I'm not going to throw a shitty lurker vote in that direction, unlike they did at a particular ex-lurker, though.
Who are you even talking to?
Birdy

CalignoBot wrote:

Static Noise Bird wrote:

While on the other hand, changing opinions by looking at the game more properly shouldn't be considered a scummy move, Drezi was an improbable scum (while being a probable one for the sheer fact that they played as a "town" well), and now they are just being murky, mainly for changing their opinions. When doing so, don't be so damn mysterious and try to steer away from the fact that you are not willing to explain things properly, if you want to be taken seriously - justify your suspicions and reasonings et cetera. Is CB your scumpartner, perhaps? Semi-defending attitude at him, while trying to get rEdo hanged, while still "suspecting" both. Elaborate, for God's sake. I'm probably getting scumpoints for being curious, too, am I right?

BRBP still needs to talk more, too. I'm not going to throw a shitty lurker vote in that direction, unlike they did at a particular ex-lurker, though.
Who are you even talking to?
Gumica, kind of (first part of first sentence), public jabber, Drezi and more public jabber. I don't think you have even read the post.
NoHitter
@Caligno
If you look closely at what rEdo did before he attacked Dake though. He was more or less passive regarding his reads. Then suddenly when Dake voted him, he immediately attacked him. Attacking someone who attacked you is not scummy, but how rEdo's temperament changed suddenly is what bothered me.
Gumica
@BRBP; forget about that. I'm not sure what I wanted to write with that sentence anymore.
@SNB; Right, looking at others and changing opinions isn't scummy. But not providing explanation and suddenly changing is.
Drezi
prod farto please
Topic Starter
Setsuen
fartownik has been prodded.

Prod Count(cause why not)

BRBP:1
DakeDekaane:1
fartownik:1
drezi-:1
SNB:1
Gumica:1
Amazing game. Much activity on D1.
DakeDekaane
Can you like shoot me to have some interesting stuff to have activity?

I can't really get much with this.
Birdy
Shoot: DD
Topic Starter
Setsuen

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Shoot: DD
SNB shoots a gun! The gun backfires!
*Revive again* because äpparently this set-up is scum-sided"
^Response will be the same for everyone who tries.

ShootingScore:
DakeDekaane: -10
StaticNoiseBird: -20
Next fail shot will be double the score.


Setsuen wrote:

Vote Count 1.8
With 9Alive, it takes 5 to lynch

StaticNoiseBird[0]
CalignoBot[0]
NoHitter[2]CalignoBot,rEdo
BRBP[0]
Gumica[0]
rEdo[L-2]-DakeDekaane,Drezi,NoHitter
fartownik[0]
DakeDekaane[0]
Drezi[1]-Gumica
Not voting:StaticNoiseBird,fartownik,BRBP
If there is any mistakes, please inform me.
DakeDekaane
Damn it SNB, I actually wanted to die.
Gumica
wifom masters
Amianki

NoHitter wrote:

@Caligno
If you look closely at what rEdo did before he attacked Dake though. He was more or less passive regarding his reads. Then suddenly when Dake voted him, he immediately attacked him. Attacking someone who attacked you is not scummy, but how rEdo's temperament changed suddenly is what bothered me.
With context of everything rEdo has posted this game, post your thoughts on it.
rEdo
Prod dodge for now, will post once I'm awake.
fartownik
Alright, damn, let's vote for my strongest gut feel out of what I've got from browsing the ISOs. We should start making conclusions from D1 as it's getting close to the deadline.

Vote: NH
Birdy
Vote: Drezi

TL;DR from that one post - quickly voting a previous null-read, and then saying that voting their scum-read wouldn't achieve anything, while not elaborating it at all, and then trying to push that subject away from the chat when asked about it and giving "scumpoints" when asked about it.
Topic Starter
Setsuen

Setsuen wrote:

Vote Count 1.9
With 9Alive, it takes 5 to lynch

StaticNoiseBird[0]
CalignoBot[0]
NoHitter[L-2]CalignoBot,rEdo,fartownik
BRBP[0]
Gumica[0]
rEdo[L-2]-DakeDekaane,Drezi,NoHitter
fartownik[0]
DakeDekaane[0]
Drezi[2]-Gumica,StaticNoiseBird
Not voting:,BRBP
If there is any mistakes, please inform me.
Deadline is in less than 22hours time unless for some reason I'm not awake at 9:20am.........
DakeDekaane
Someone put rEdo/NH at L-1 please, else I'll put NH when I wake up. I got an idea.
DakeDekaane
Which has very low chance of working but who cares.
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