Title is self explanatory. What do y'all think of the future of the internet would look like years from now with all the AI taking over the internet? Unless copyright laws gets updated for AI...It seems like we're in a time where AI runs rampant and ruining the internet. But it might just be my doomer thoughts.

Either it'll go back to 90s/00s times before it was complete shit or it'll just keep getting worse like real life.
First option is just a cope it'll not happen.

I saw some dude saying that statistically speaking, researchers (<- whoever that is) say that by the end of 2027, 80% of yt content will be AI generated content. (This is just yt stuff only)

Honestly though it's pretty hard to predict the future of the internet because the possibilities are insane. It could be great, it could be crap. We must leave it to the humans of the future and see how it all unfolds...

idk but itll be fine if fortnite adds jesus

In my opinion:

it is that I have the impression that the AI is taking up more and more space.

in the art word and music world etc :/

And knowing that it is more and more realistic lol

while I think AI content will occupy more internet space, more petabytes of information, I don't think that should impact us that much. While not at this scale, and not THIS global, we've already seen lots of websites be affected by botting, thrash information and even shovelware, which we, given the time, end up engineering new tools to filter our and access what we're interested in

the ammount of people who do not want to engage with AI generated content is not a minority, in the same way a large majority dislike adds, to which, despite being backeed by one of the largest induetries on earth, we've been able to create very effective countermessures, of course AI is way more complicated due to them being at a first glance equal to any other post on any website, but I have faith we will adapt and flourish. No apocalyptic scenario for us.

What I do think we need to accept is tha there are going to be casulties, there will be websites and frankly, part of your daily routine on the internet that will have to change. Times are changing and you can't anchor yourself too much on anything nowadays, so you may have to be ready to make sacrifices, don't get stockholm syndrome and become capable of jumping ship if you notice something you used to do on the internet now turns out to be, by your own definition, not worth it.

With AI, the future internet becomes easier to use, but some people might abuse that. it's fine to me tbh

also if YouTube uses ai video generators in the future, I hope the comments wouldn't be braindead LIKE THIS THING.

The future of internet be like

1. More advertisements
2. More use of bots and artificial intelligences
3. More improvement on augmented and virtual reality
4. More decentralization initiatives
5. More censorship and disinformation
6. More production of inappropriate content
7. Less anonymity
8. Less online safety

anaxii wrote:

The future of internet be like

1. More advertisements
2. More use of bots and artificial intelligences
3. More improvement on augmented and virtual reality
4. More decentralization initiatives
5. More censorship and disinformation
6. More production of inappropriate content
7. Less anonymity
8. Less online safety

Except for point 4, we're already living in that future. Most, if not all of these talking points exist for like 10+ years now

I agree that they'll be more decentralisation "initiatives". But at the end of the day people won't move to the "decentralised" platforms, except the most hardcore ones. Remember Mastodon? When Elon bought Twitter, there're people migrating to it in the beginning. But most people just accepted the "new normal" and stayed on X anyways. Or Odysee, which is a decentralised alternative to YouTube running on a blockchain...... People barely use them now.

Jangsoodlor wrote:

anaxii wrote:

The future of internet be like

1. More advertisements
2. More use of bots and artificial intelligences
3. More improvement on augmented and virtual reality
4. More decentralization initiatives
5. More censorship and disinformation
6. More production of inappropriate content
7. Less anonymity
8. Less online safety

Except for point 4, we're already living in that future. Most, if not all of these talking points exist for like 10+ years now

I agree that they'll be more decentralisation "initiatives". But at the end of the day people won't move to the "decentralised" platforms, except the most hardcore ones. Remember Mastodon? When Elon bought Twitter, there're people migrating to it in the beginning. But most people just accepted the "new normal" and stayed on X anyways. Or Odysee, which is a decentralised alternative to YouTube running on a blockchain...... People barely use them now.

Decentralised platforms are not always doomed to failure imo. Although the numbers are not as similar as their predecessors, there will still be people who will use them as alternatives. It's the case of Kick, RedNote and Bluesky

anaxii wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

anaxii wrote:

The future of internet be like

1. More advertisements
2. More use of bots and artificial intelligences
3. More improvement on augmented and virtual reality
4. More decentralization initiatives
5. More censorship and disinformation
6. More production of inappropriate content
7. Less anonymity
8. Less online safety

Except for point 4, we're already living in that future. Most, if not all of these talking points exist for like 10+ years now

I agree that they'll be more decentralisation "initiatives". But at the end of the day people won't move to the "decentralised" platforms, except the most hardcore ones. Remember Mastodon? When Elon bought Twitter, there're people migrating to it in the beginning. But most people just accepted the "new normal" and stayed on X anyways. Or Odysee, which is a decentralised alternative to YouTube running on a blockchain...... People barely use them now.

Decentralised platforms are not always doomed to failure imo. Although the numbers are not as similar as their predecessors, there will still be people who will use them as alternatives. It's the case of Kick, RedNote and Bluesky

I think you're confusing decentralized with alternative platform. While it's true that decentralized platforms are usually alternatives to bigger websites, offering the same set of features, not all alternatives are decentralized. For example, from what you listed, kick and rednote are not decentralized.

Still, regarding alternatives as a whole, I have my doubts about the philosophy behind them. I feel that most of the times we've seen a tech giant fall, it wasn't because someone made a website that was 90% what they were doing, but it felt like a drastic shift, like from myspace to facebook, from skype to discord. I can't really name of any examples where the change wasn't so drastic

Out of the points you've given, I have my doubts on some of them.

Point 3, augmented and virtual reality. Honestly augmented reality always felt like a fad to me, it has already been tried a lot of times and there just isn't that many good use cases for it, it will remain a niche product. Regarding virtual reality, while I think it's big boom is over, it has a niche a little bit bigger than augmented, but again, not something that will really define the future, it will remain as it is now but a bit better and hopefully cheaper.

point 5, more censorship, I guess it depends how you define censorship and who do you think would be responsable for maintaining it. I don't think the american government or the european union are going to pull a china and restrict half the internet, that for starters, now, a lot of political extremist content and conspiracy theories are being taken down, and the popularity of these beliefs are expanding, so in that regard, yeah, I think there will be more censorship, but honestly i'm fine with that type of content being taken down. And last you just have companies, I can believe companies like twitter or reddit will start restricting the visibility of posts promoting political views that opposes the ones of the company, this is already the case, but I certainly hope it doesn't get to a extreme where it is one of the things that truly define the future of the internet

point 6, there is no point fighting it.

point 7, again, like point 5, I don't think we're going to see government mandated ID on the internet, I think it's such a stereotipically evil thing so it's logical to imagine this would be the case since we always imagine the future as a dystopia, but I don't think this is happening. Now, will companies sell even more of your personal data?, yeah I think that's a given

pont 8, again, depends on what you consider it, antivirus are the best they have ever been, real biggest problem is phishing and scams, but I think that can be solved with education.

Patatitta wrote:

point 7, again, like point 5, I don't think we're going to see government mandated ID on the internet, I think it's such a stereotipically evil thing so it's logical to imagine this would be the case since we always imagine the future as a dystopia, but I don't think this is happening. Now, will companies sell even more of your personal data?, yeah I think that's a given

They're already doing it in france, pushing to use a single authentication for everything, that uses your actual identity and trying to force ID use to access porn sites.
They obviously don't care about limiting access to porn, they care about controlling people online.

Patatitta wrote:

pont 8, again, depends on what you consider it, antivirus are the best they have ever been, real biggest problem is phishing and scams, but I think that can be solved with education.

The internet keeps being more secure, there was a time when firewalls and anti malware were basically nonexistent and phishing/malware sites were sometimes above official sites in google results.
Logging into anything basically made your IP public.
Sites were almost all vulnerable to sql injection and stored passwords in plain text.
Nowadays you're safe unless you download stuff on shady sites.
We take https for granted but back then encryption on the web just didn't exist.
You have a (not so great) firewall and anti malware by default with Windows and dangerous sites tend to be removed from search results or buried deep.
Companies still don't do enough though and get pwned on a daily basis but it's not the wild west it used to be.

Karmine wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

point 7, again, like point 5, I don't think we're going to see government mandated ID on the internet, I think it's such a stereotipically evil thing so it's logical to imagine this would be the case since we always imagine the future as a dystopia, but I don't think this is happening. Now, will companies sell even more of your personal data?, yeah I think that's a given

They're already doing it in france, pushing to use a single authentication for everything, that uses your actual identity and trying to force ID use to access porn sites.
They obviously don't care about limiting access to porn, they care about controlling people online.

Patatitta wrote:

pont 8, again, depends on what you consider it, antivirus are the best they have ever been, real biggest problem is phishing and scams, but I think that can be solved with education.

The internet keeps being more secure, there was a time when firewalls and anti malware were basically nonexistent and phishing/malware sites were sometimes above official sites in google results.
Logging into anything basically made your IP public.
Sites were almost all vulnerable to sql injection and stored passwords in plain text.
Nowadays you're safe unless you download stuff on shady sites.
We take https for granted but back then encryption on the web just didn't exist.
You have a (not so great) firewall and anti malware by default with Windows and dangerous sites tend to be removed from search results or buried deep.
Companies still don't do enough though and get pwned on a daily basis but it's not the wild west it used to be.

I think it's a very different thing to add an id requirement for porn sites, since you, technically and legally have to be 18 to access, than start making new legislations to apply to idk, twitter, while they sound similar conceptually, I don't think this is a slippery slope, again, just try imagine someone pushing that law in todays modern landscape

even when a country bans a website, there is usually a legal backbone that they can use for justification, but i've not read of any that law that could be applied as a way to enforce ID on osu for example

and again, stuff like ID are directly harm many of the digital giants in terms of revenue, so I would assume they would fight hard against it.

yeah, can't search anything on the internet without seeing AI images, also most article i read recently are just like so clearly written by AI, there's no way a human would write like that.

my thought on the internet as a whole in the future is it will be so phone centric, no more web it's all apps, you're forced to use phone to access the internet. it would be more harder to find an authentic human made stuff and more than 90% of stuff created is made with/help of AI. and i think company will toned down their push on AI, no more having 8 different AI button, no more being forced to see AI rewritten word of something and you have to do a gymnastic to see the original word.

and maybe, just maybe, there will be some sort of government app on your phone that can be linked to other service to show that you're an adult, and you cant access adult stuff on the internet without this app

the internet will be less open & independent, corporation will run 99.9999999 and so on % of the internet, it would be hard to have your own independent personal space on the internet with all of the regulation put in place and botting, you would have to be a millionaire to have your own independent space on the internet.

again maybe, just maybe, those who own their place on the internet will be forced by regulation to have some sort of like censorship system on it, it can protect people/children from freaks[freaky_sonic.gif], but it can also prevent thing be posted that government don't want to see posted and maybe it will flag something on your government app

what the fuck they're actually generally discussing here

almonds wrote:

yeah, can't search anything on the internet without seeing AI images, also most article i read recently are just like so clearly written by AI, there's no way a human would write like that.

my thought on the internet as a whole in the future is it will be so phone centric, no more web it's all apps, you're forced to use phone to access the internet. it would be more harder to find an authentic human made stuff and more than 90% of stuff created is made with/help of AI. and i think company will toned down their push on AI, no more having 8 different AI button, no more being forced to see AI rewritten word of something and you have to do a gymnastic to see the original word.

and maybe, just maybe, there will be some sort of government app on your phone that can be linked to other service to show that you're an adult, and you cant access adult stuff on the internet without this app

the internet will be less open & independent, corporation will run 99.9999999 and so on % of the internet, it would be hard to have your own independent personal space on the internet with all of the regulation put in place and botting, you would have to be a millionaire to have your own independent space on the internet.

again maybe, just maybe, those who own their place on the internet will be forced by regulation to have some sort of like censorship system on it, it can protect people/children from freaks[freaky_sonic.gif], but it can also prevent thing be posted that government don't want to see posted and maybe it will flag something on your government app

again, dystopical scenario that we believe because we always imagine the future as bad

the web isn't going anywhere, computers aren't going anywhere, you won't need to use a phone to browse the internet, there will be webs and apps, like there is now.

almonds wrote:

and maybe, just maybe, there will be some sort of government app on your phone that can be linked to other service to show that you're an adult, and you cant access adult stuff on the internet without this app

It's already a thing where I live now. There's a government "Digital ID" app that can be used to log in to a handful of government online services, kinda like "Log in with Google" thing. It can also show your virtual ID card on the phone's screen so it can be use as a substitute for real ID card in some occasions as well. But since "adult websites" are theoretically illegal here, no one bothers to check for identification in order to access those sites (yet).

almonds wrote:

the internet will be less open & independent, corporation will run 99.9999999 and so on % of the internet, it would be hard to have your own independent personal space on the internet with all of the regulation put in place and botting, you would have to be a millionaire to have your own independent space on the internet.

Technically, you can host your own website on your own web server, which could be your old low-spec PC. You don't have to be a millionaire to do so and it was a thing up until about mid 2010s I guess.

almonds wrote:

again maybe, just maybe, those who own their place on the internet will be forced by regulation to have some sort of like censorship system on it, it can protect people/children from freaks[freaky_sonic.gif], but it can also prevent thing be posted that government don't want to see posted and maybe it will flag something on your government app

It's quite hard to censor the entire internet. Even China with its notorious Great Firewall can not stop somewhat tech literate Chinese to access the wider internet. The only way that can happen, in my opinion, is by implementing national "intranet" like North Korea and cut off from the wider internet entirely. Which might not be the most popular decision ever and would crash the economy overnight if any wannabe dictator dare to do so.

Everything is going to shit

almonds wrote:

yeah, can't search anything on the internet without seeing AI images, also most article i read recently are just like so clearly written by AI, there's no way a human would write like that.

my thought on the internet as a whole in the future is it will be so phone centric, no more web it's all apps, you're forced to use phone to access the internet. it would be more harder to find an authentic human made stuff and more than 90% of stuff created is made with/help of AI. and i think company will toned down their push on AI, no more having 8 different AI button, no more being forced to see AI rewritten word of something and you have to do a gymnastic to see the original word.

and maybe, just maybe, there will be some sort of government app on your phone that can be linked to other service to show that you're an adult, and you cant access adult stuff on the internet without this app

the internet will be less open & independent, corporation will run 99.9999999 and so on % of the internet, it would be hard to have your own independent personal space on the internet with all of the regulation put in place and botting, you would have to be a millionaire to have your own independent space on the internet.

again maybe, just maybe, those who own their place on the internet will be forced by regulation to have some sort of like censorship system on it, it can protect people/children from freaks[freaky_sonic.gif], but it can also prevent thing be posted that government don't want to see posted and maybe it will flag something on your government app

adding more context to this because i give off nuts vibes in this. thing to note is i don't 100% believe in my point, this is mostly bad case scenario, i don't 100% believe in this but im not gonna be surprised if it happened

(1)phone centric internet part. i made this point because most of services i use would keep nagging me about connecting my phone to them(smartphone if it require apps) some forces you to have smartphone and sign up from there first to use their service, and locking me out of certain thing because i dont have phone(/smartphone) connected, and when i use the web in general so many sites just like "hey stop, install our app RN!!", many of them like beg you to install their app like it's only for phone im here because i want to access it from my puter, some just would not give you a close option on this, so you're forced to use the app, it really annoy me, why have this whole site up that's parsed by search engine, have some actual data in them just for it to be borked turning into a glorified qr link. and many internet stuff like social media, online shopping and such come in an app form, so.... when they do have a web it's like a different thing

(2)for the government app stuff, to note i don't think the gov would forcing this out, i think it would be like, so people have concerned with ID check of services knowing your personal data, so we roll out this app so you can get authenticated without them getting your personal info, and i think people would find this app normal, even useful of it's convenience, maybe it will replace physicals ID altogether. personally i don't want this to be a thing, it's really idk hit some spot in my heart when i heard people like supporting ID check on online stuff, some not even for corn, for GAMES!! i think saying something about separating adults from kids, idk, like we don't live in a perfect world, im sure this would be abused some way

(3)the censorship part is i write due to part of my experience of using common site in general, most of them have this weird censorship thing running behind the scene, from corporation. i dont send vile thing but it still flag me as such, it's understandable if it notice me on my post, like "hey we removed your comment, bla bla bla", and it's annoying when i get muted for saying nothing bad, but sometimes some would just act like everything is fine and hiding your post behind the scene, it didn't tell you nothing, some scan images&video too sometimes i would get wrongly flagged as sending hideous thing when it just literally pic of cartoony meat with a face. i was thinking, some people really don't mind even supporting ID check on like everything on the internet, im sure some would be happy to have the gov pushing thing that create more safe and friendly environment for kids and people online, it would be implemented and there will be not much complaint so it stays

for thing i write about gov involvement on the net in general, if there will be such thing i think it would not really be a harsh implementation, there are so many country in this world and they may not have such thing, so like vpn, proxy

(4)now idk about the internet being less open and independent part, i think there would be less independent run thing in the net in general because many reason, for corporation runned, i think most thing would rely on a corporation to have their thing running, because convenience. but like nerd gonna be nerd, maybe having your own place on the net would not be so expensive, there will need to be a big changes on thing for this to be a thing, to think again i think there will be possible changes on the common side of the net but on the uncommon side, i think you can broke the law for all you care for as long as you go unnoticed

i love the net, and it's just uncanny the thing ive been hearing from some people lately

well, very recently an act has come into play in the uk that requires websites to perform age verification checks for users to access "mature content", whatever that's defined as (important note: it's not just porn). at least it's easy to get around, and i'm already aware of five decently popular sites that aren't mainstream enough to be on ofcom's radar right now

the government will only care about privacy once a data breach inevitably happens (photos of people's IDs are an absolute goldmine) and censorship of information looks to be part of the intention

it pisses me off, i won't lie, but it reminds me that the nature of the internet makes it very difficult to totally cut off access to a portion of it, especially when there's vpns or some other loophole available (cough). as for old-style "web 1.0" sites, browser games, gimmick sites, you can readily find all of those if you're willing to look. the internet as a whole isn't in danger. it's the popular bits the government and regulatory bodies will know of that you want to be concerned about

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Jangsoodlor wrote:

It's quite hard to censor the entire internet. Even China with its notorious Great Firewall can not stop somewhat tech literate Chinese to access the wider internet. The only way that can happen, in my opinion, is by implementing national "intranet" like North Korea and cut off from the wider internet entirely. Which might not be the most popular decision ever and would crash the economy overnight if any wannabe dictator dare to do so.

^^

Maybe we can see real North Koreans on the internet when the world calms down.

There are some claims that age verification will solve the bot problems we see on the internet. However, there are those that are quick to point out that it won't solve squat, and that it's a double-edged sword.

I'd rather see the bots on the internet than having to doxx myself just to use the internet, point blank, cart blanche.

Neigdoig wrote:

There are some claims that age verification will solve the bot problems we see on the internet. However, there are those that are quick to point out that it won't solve squat, and that it's a double-edged sword.

I'd rather see the bots on the internet than having to doxx myself just to use the internet, point blank, cart blanche.

It's genuinely sad that the internet that I once remember, where you can just be an alter ego of yourself and be anonymous, is now a place where governments use it as a mass surveillance and endanger privacy of citizens because of the many potential data breaches that can happen. The mass censorship also doesn't help either.

Defh1gh0nw33d wrote:

It's genuinely sad that the internet that I once remember, where you can just be an alter ego of yourself and be anonymous, is now a place where governments use it as a mass surveillance and endanger privacy of citizens because of the many potential data breaches that can happen. The mass censorship also doesn't help either.

Thankfully, there are ways around it, like the Fediverse and other similar decentralized protocols that won't require age verification.