This post wasn't directed towards me, but I'm replying it anyways. Setsuen: the rules of the game clearly states that there will be a N0 for scum to talk. I take my time to read each game's rules in order to see what I can do and what I can't. About my vote on Gumica while I was away, I'll have be honest: I left that vote on purpose, but I didn't really think the consequences of doing that. This was my first time going V/LA so I was unsure of whether leave that vote or remove it, and didn't have time to read the meta on that.Setsuen wrote:
Read the entire Lupus where I argued with CB about whether Myth showed up as scum to the other town PR. A slip is still possible. Read the last newbie mafia where I thought scum had day chat. A slip is still possible. and seriously, I doubt anyone check the rules/role sample PM these days.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Actually, never mind.
I started remembering things. You see, even Zexion wouldn't be dumb enough to slip that, if that was top secret information. Basically, he knew "N0 was for scum chat without being a scum" by reading the rules.
Also it's near DL and there's absolutely no indication of Zexion being PR at all so there's no way I'm going to town read him. The fact that he only argued about what lurking means. Also don't forget to include in the fact that he just voted Gumica because "Gumica's silly reason" which is exactly like Nav's random vote on me at the start of D1 in the last newbie mafia(I don't even want to elaborate this. My index fingers is starting to hurt probably from typing and tapping on osu <.<)
Well you probably realized I was V/LA at that stage and think about bringing someone to L-1:Setsuen wrote:
This is just so freaking suspicious. Bringing someone to L-1 being info? That sure DIDN'T work in Lupus where I self-voted and went to L-1 and I only claimed my role in UPick when I reached L-1 and waited until DL was reached <.< TBH who knows you might be lying about v.la so you can lurk it out until near DL. Oh btw Zexion, there's a LOT to talk about now and no accurate results? HA scums just LOVE to do minor slip here and there.
Just because lulz?DakeDekaane wrote:
Guys, ride Gumica's train, ty.
This seems like a repeat of Lupus D1 but with two different people lol. Now if you imagine this was Lupus who would you REALLY vote for? Gumica or Nav?DakeDekaane wrote:
Did Navizel just jump on Gumica trying to avoid being lynched?
brb still wondering why people read rules for a newbie game that's following a standard procedure and thus the rules are SIMPLE as heck.rEdo wrote:
@SNB: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/189774 is a good place to start if you haven't yet.
@Setsuen: I do read the rules every time I enter a game. I'm sure a lot of people do.
If this was meant to imply DD+Nav scum team incase Nav got lynched and flipped scum, you just made DD seem more like conf town <.<Navizel wrote:
Can I trust you on this oneDakeDekaane wrote:
Guys, ride Gumica's train, ty.
Vote: Gumica
1.What makes you think I won't lolhammer just because everyone did it in Lupus?Zexion wrote:
Well you probably realized I was V/LA at that stage and think about bringing someone to L-1:
-There's no plurality lynch. So even we we would "miss" the deadline with someone still at L-1 nothing would happen.
-If someone hammers without a valid reason, they're most likely scum and can be pressured afterwards.
-Scums are much more likely to slip (and everyone for that matter) with a lot of pressure.
So what was the problem with following NH's strategy again if nothing happens, so be it. But something is much more likely to happen but... this was a lots of post ago so yeah. I'm kinda late on this.
What was the case on Navizel again? Something about being too much defensive? I've read this several times but failed to see the point... sorry I'm tired orz
Pretty sure. Gotta say, Gumica stayed smart by not jumping in on the emergency lynch train. Guess I should be more suspicious at Navizel rn?DakeDekaane wrote:
Did Navizel just jump on Gumica trying to avoid being lynched?
What if I flipped town then?Setsuen wrote:
If this was meant to imply DD+Nav scum team incase Nav got lynched and flipped scum, you just made DD seem more like conf town <.<
Wow meta calls such reliable many alignmentNavizel wrote:
come again? Exactly why am I an obvious scum? Even though I lurk no matter what my role is, there are still difference on what I post.fartownik wrote:
Next. Navizel is obvious scum. Easy lynch easy life.
with which he replied with;Gumica wrote:
also, give me your reasons for suspecting SNB
Static Noise Bird wrote:
Well played. If "SNB" right there was some other name from here, and you got lynched and turned out to be a mafia, I would have my highest suspicions at the person in your post. Basically, if you die and turn out to be a mafia, I'm 100% sure to be the next one dead. Think about it.
Static Noise Bird wrote:
I never said you have. Your post just gives that atmosphere way too strongly.Gumica wrote:
I haven't defended you at all. I was merely asking Nav of his actions
Setsuen wrote:
SNB's reply wasn't even a question.[...]Gumica wrote:
Yes, but why would anyone go this defensive over making a question to another player? I would assume that it would be because that person has background reasons -> hiding something. And that in this case being PR or Mafia
Setsuen wrote:
and I can tell you Navizel's reply wasn't even that defensive. You want defensive see my walls in lupus against CB lolllllll <.<Gumica wrote:
I was reffering to Navizel, not SNB
I don't know if that's good or bad. So what are you reading me now?NoHitter wrote:
... When I made my gambit earlier I didn't even realize there was ACTUALLY a N0.
I have to ask whether or not people actually saw that rule.
My previous read on Zexion may change based on that.
Also, I find it a bit interesting that SNB answered in Zexion's defense. Possible link there
Vote: Gumica
no. #Nav weird questioning style+Gumica weird answering style > My wallsrEdo wrote:
did anyone even understand Gumica here
Static Noise Bird wrote:
I did, though this is still only my second game ever (and the first one in English). So, I'm probably the only one newbie enough to have to read the rulesSetsuen wrote:
I doubt anyone check the rules/role sample PM these days.
Anyway, yeah, the vote is still really dumb. Not what I'd see as an obvious mafia, but I guess I should trust the professionals, or...?
#Stop random sheeping & trusting and read Lupus my first game where town pwned Werewolf in a D1 lynch with me self-voting myself. THEN realise you need to scum hunt and lynch scum off using your own reads <.<Static Noise Bird wrote:
Pretty sure. Gotta say, Gumica stayed smart by not jumping in on the emergency lynch train. Guess I should be more suspicious at Navizel rn?
So what are the possibility that rEdo is scum who knows Nav/Gumica isn't scum and wants to accuse whoever is for a Gumica over Nav lynch AFTER we lynch Gumica? Nav flip will give more information what. The only time it really helped was in Lupus was Nav sheeped CB like no tmr on the attack on me. LF sheeping post from Nav pls.rEdo wrote:
I'm pretty sure a Navizel flip would give us much more information. I mean, just look how Navi is all happy with voting Gumica right here... I'm fine with lynching either, but give me reasons why Gumica over Navizel.
Guess who're the people in the middle on my lynch list? By miracle it's Zexion & rEdo much wow. Yes the list is biased which is why you should also subconciously include farto in.(#Do not be the first to argue with me each game I''m in)Setsuen wrote:
Biased lynch order atm:farto>Static>Nav>Zexion>rEdo>Gumica>DD>NH
Also I'm happy with my vote atm. Lynch Navizel next if Gumica flips town.Rules wrote:
Pretending to break a rule will count as breaking the rule.
Gumica wrote:
Yes, but why would anyone go this defensive over making a question to another player? I would assume that it would be because that person has background reasons -> hiding something. And that in this case being PR or Mafia
You're saying that I'm being defensive, yes? I'm not even.Gumica wrote:
I was reffering to Navizel, not SNB
1.How come you even start suspecting someone who is so difficult to read at the startrEdo wrote:
a) I've had you as my suspect since the beginning of the day.
b) "Pressing" NH that actually was a trap you have fallen into. Your tries to get out of it were remarkable. If you know what I mean.
c) Defending yourself ONLY when being talked to directly. People are talking about you for quite a while and you respond like only when somebody either votes you or wants something from you. Zero contribution from your own will.
d) And when you actually contribute, it's usually so messed up and full of blackmailing that it's just wrong.
e) Throwing accusations at Navizel (click!) and DD (click!) for no particular/a shitty reason, mainly to try redirecting attention from your persona.
f) A SHITTON of role fishing, like here and especially here. If you wanna do it just because you're a fucking curious Townie, then quit it.
If you wanna prove yourself as a Townie, tell me what the fuck did you do to help us. Or at least try to prove me wrong.
YOU KNOW, I'M PRETTY SURE I USED THIS KIND OF "typing/replying" style in UPick where I rolled scum. I'M NOT JOKING this is suspicious as heck OMG.fartownik wrote:
Hai, typing from work. Cant do it for a long time though so just few notices about current events.
Navizel is still scum.
NH is slightly scum.
Anyone on Gumica wagon is slightly scum.
Setsuen's playstyle is still stupid and super annoying.
farto yes. Gumica no. farto is just trying to save Gumica for NOW. Like I did in UPick where I townreaded CB until NH died then..... GOODBYE CB <3Navizel wrote:
I sense farto + gumica scum team
Well I don't think it's that good an idea since there ARE more suspicious people than Nav/Gumica right now that people are IGNORING =.=Static Noise Bird wrote:
Aaaaand Navizel needs an eye on to keep. We might let a bigger scum possibility slide away easily because of the Gumica train - besides farto's latest post, there have been no posts related to that case lately, and even then that wasn't really related to the case. Though, like some wise man once said, first Gumica, then Navizel, no matter what the case is.
But yeah, let's play this card.
Vote: Gumica
I'm neutral towards Gumica lynch. I want you to be lynched first because what you're doing right now seems like what I did in UPick a little <.<fartownik wrote:
Like, no one at all besides me is opposing his lynch, so obviously scum wants him lynched and they're not stopping it because they have no reason to (he's Town so a mislynch, which is good for them).
lol no. Just no. If you're really town and scums do that, they are dumb. Killing me or you N1 will be a dumb move.fartownik wrote:
Ah and I'm obviously getting NK'd because I will be fucking obvtown when Gumica flips Town so it will be the best scum can do at that moment.
EVERYONE YOU HEARD THIS GUY #BAD MOD 2K14tn5421 wrote:
@Setsuen: Absolutely not. Are you insane?
Gumica isn't even playing the game. Someone already said that it's a win-win situation if he dies, no matter what the outcome is.fartownik wrote:
Everyone prefers Gumica first? He's clearly Town then.
pls why would scum kill me. I kill activity for them even Irre admitted it.DakeDekaane wrote:
No pls, scum should kill Setsuen to make the game more enjoyable, unless he stops being that bad.
DD pls. Why not on my gut read on rEdo/Zexion? I mean look how I gut readed Nyquil in Chaos and he WAS indeed scum <.< #Trust in me plsDakeDekaane wrote:
UNLESS you want a flashlynch on Navizel, I'm okay with either of them.
hahaha no. It's not a win-win Gumica is like the NEW target of a mis-lynch BECAUSE people FINALLY realise that they can't mis-lynch on me. okay maybe idk.... <.< In fact I was fine with keeping Gumica alive on Lupus even WITH that playing style <.<Static Noise Bird wrote:
Gumica isn't even playing the game. Someone already said that it's a win-win situation if he dies, no matter what the outcome is.fartownik wrote:
Everyone prefers Gumica first? He's clearly Town then.
If you really insist, I'm full-on sheeping with getting Navizel lynched next day. inb4 he nightkills me because of this sentence
This post sucks.Navizel wrote:
I sense farto + gumica scum team
DD I hope you realise this sounds scummy as heck if anyone inferred into it <.<DakeDekaane wrote:
Hold the fuck on, farto may be right, get all those fucking votes from Gumica and vote Navizel nowThis post sucks.Navizel wrote:
I sense farto + gumica scum team
Unvote
Vote: Navizel
farto/Gumica eats rope tomorrow if Navizel is town.
Did I read correctly?Static Noise Bird wrote:
Sure, mislynching town "for good" isn't going to help in late game, but Gumica is just really, REALLY eccentric.
You wanting to lynch farto/Gumica if Nav flips town.DakeDekaane wrote:
What is scummy in that post?
Lolol. I was referring to farto, once again. It sounds wrong if you don't take that into account, I must admit.DakeDekaane wrote:
Did I read correctly?Static Noise Bird wrote:
Sure, mislynching town "for good" isn't going to help in late game, but Gumica is just really, REALLY eccentric.
Scum killing me would be dumb as I said, I KILL activity ;3fartownik wrote:
Scum just kill Setsuen and I will give you a cookie as a reward.
IF (somehow) Navizel flips Town, Dake is scum for this exact post. Remember this.DakeDekaane wrote:
Hold the fuck on, farto may be right, get all those fucking votes from Gumica and vote Navizel nowThis post sucks.Navizel wrote:
I sense farto + gumica scum team
Unvote
Vote: Navizel
farto/Gumica eats rope tomorrow if Navizel is town.
Would you try & save your buddy D1 if you're scum? CB didn't in Lupus and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't either <.<DakeDekaane wrote:
You notice that makes no sense?
IF (somehow) Navizel flips Town, Dake is scum for this exact post. Remember this.[/quote]fartownik wrote:
farto/Gumica eats rope tomorrow if Navizel is town.
My playstyle hardly involves seeing people voting log and I don't intend to do that now, seeing that my gut read is still there. You want to be town? Be on rEdo/Zexion <.<DakeDekaane wrote:
Let me put it as this, if I was scum, why would I vote my partner and tell everyone to vote him and then ask to move the votes away?
To busDakeDekaane wrote:
Let me put it as this, if I was scum, why would I vote my partner and tell everyone to vote him and then ask to move the votes away?
The more suspicious was the sudden jump, which is okay, but in the context of Navizel actually being Town it's not okay. It all depends on the flip now.So we're back to my I'm town argument again where people said I broke rules or whatever whenever I said it <.< bahDakeDekaane wrote:
I don't want to be town, I AM already town. I don't need to sheep someone else to gain towncred.
a) okrEdo wrote:
a) I've had you as my suspect since the beginning of the day.
b) "Pressing" NH that actually was a trap you have fallen into. Your tries to get out of it were remarkable. If you know what I mean.
c) Defending yourself ONLY when being talked to directly. People are talking about you for quite a while and you respond like only when somebody either votes you or wants something from you. Zero contribution from your own will.
d) And when you actually contribute, it's usually so messed up and full of blackmailing that it's just wrong.
e) Throwing accusations at Navizel (click!) and DD (click!) for no particular/a shitty reason, mainly to try redirecting attention from your persona.
f) A SHITTON of role fishing, like here and especially here. If you wanna do it just because you're a fucking curious Townie, then quit it.
If you wanna prove yourself as a Townie, tell me what the fuck did you do to help us. Or at least try to prove me wrong.
I tought we've gone over this...: SNB was being defensive when I asked YOU a question.Navizel wrote:
Gumica wrote:
Yes, but why would anyone go this defensive over making a question to another player? I would assume that it would be because that person has background reasons -> hiding something. And that in this case being PR or MafiaYou're saying that I'm being defensive, yes? I'm not even.Gumica wrote:
I was reffering to Navizel, not SNB
a) Define: how I'm not playing the game? If you're going to insult me with that kind of contribution, take a look at some other players, who post once in 24h.Static Noise Bird wrote:
Gumica isn't even playing the game. Someone already said that it's a win-win situation if he dies, no matter what the outcome is.fartownik wrote:
Everyone prefers Gumica first? He's clearly Town then.
If you really insist, I'm full-on sheeping with getting Navizel lynched next day. inb4 he nightkills me because of this sentence
Static Noise Bird wrote:
Besides I unvoted already.
ppl placing my gut read in the middle of their reads wow wut. SNB is prob PR <.<Gumica wrote:
Now to contribute my reads, as of today (town to scum):
fartownik > Setsuen > NH > Zexion > rEdo > Navizel > DD > SNB
Discuss.
The same stupid thing happened on the last newbie and it took town until D3 to lynch Nav. Then at the end someone had the nerve to say they suspected Nav too. #LogicStatic Noise Bird wrote:
A proper justification could be handy. Like you said, you look like a 3rd party person, being the only one suspecting him.
Zexion had more suspicion on him previously from others, too. He would possibly be more efficient of a target for any bandwagons, if you're really so sure about (either of) them being the scum(s).
First part is reffering to everyone, second part is reffering to Fartownik.NoHitter wrote:
@fartownik:
You believe Gumica is town just because of the fact that no one is opposing his lynch? That's a bit fallacious. You all know that defending your scumpartner when they're about to be lynched is suicide. You can't just use that reasoning at all.
That post sounds really odd, but there's nothing to actually conclude for anything like that. Whoa N0 just a concidence wow.DakeDekaane wrote:
Also farto, that post has nothing wrong for me, it may be a slight scumpaint if something.
Now on the other hand, that last line looks much more convincing.DakeDekaane wrote:
idc, just noticed the only ones neutral to Gumica's lynch was Zexion and Setsuen, which imo, makes no sense for scum Gumica. And I have no scumreads on Gumica's wagon other than Navizel.
Also notice how Navizel unvoted after I posted this: p/3087252
UnvoteNavizel wrote:
Looks like everyone forgot the fact that I never fakeclaim. Oh well
@NH: you played with Gumica in Lupus and you're still trying to argue with his eccentric answering/questioning skills that doesn't really make senses to even me? <.< Best way to out Gumica if he's scum is for investigative PR to check him out <.<NoHitter wrote:
I don't see how what i wrote made it look like I knew fartownik was scum.
"but guys pls believe me i'm town"Navizel wrote:
Looks like everyone forgot the fact that I never fakeclaim. Oh well
EXCUSE ME. DID YOU EVEN READ THE POST ABOVE?Static Noise Bird wrote:
"but guys pls believe me i'm town"Navizel wrote:
Looks like everyone forgot the fact that I never fakeclaim. Oh well
I don't know, this right here is like proving things without proofs. Are you a Jester?
MUCH NINJA. TOWN NINJA JOAT FOR NEXT GAME PLZStatic Noise Bird wrote:
Setsuen ninjas me by 5 minutes. I already wrote about "that kind of attitude could work as a perfect bait for votes, which should be the opposite of what you are looking for" and went ahead and removed it. Well, it apparently did get you another vote. I did not suspect you enough, but yeah, great move, Nav.
idk but this looks suspicious to meDakeDekaane wrote:
Navizel needs one more guys
Rules wrote:
8. At deadline, the player with the most votes is lynched. In the event of a draw, the player who had the most votes before being tied will be lynched.
Rules wrote:
Any votes or unvotes after deadline wont count, if the day reaches deadline before a majority is reached, the day ends without a lynch.
