Tokisawa Nao - BRYNHILDR IN THE DARKNESS -Ver. EJECTED-

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Kuron-kun
Hey, gxytcgxytc! I had to pop the bubble for some reasons I'll mention below. This was really necessary and you can call me for a rebubble when you apply the mods. Sorry for the inconvenience.


Reason for Bubble Pop
  1. A unsnapped green line (inherited point) on Dark diff at 00:05:825 - consider fixing it.

  2. Consider adding at least +1 (3) Stack Leniency on OblivioN's Insane diff. It's really inconsistent the way it's now and could be some times confusing.

  3. Again on OblivioN's Insane, this slider 00:55:243 (1) - should be 1/8 like on the others diffs. It's really inconsistent the way it's now and it's even ignoring the sound. Consider changing it.

  4. Not sure about the rhythm you were following on Melt's Hard diff. You ignored A LOT of strong beats on the beginning, and that could be really confusing for some players, since the strong beat is a lot louder than the weak one. I would really consider adding at least a circle on those beats

  5. A lot of issues on Dark diff that, in my opinion, should be fixed. I'll mention them below.

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Additional Modding

Easy


00:28:821 (2) - This hitsounds actually sounds like a normal-hitnormal, shouldn't it sound like a drum? Change the sampleset thing into Auto or Drum, so it would be consistent.

00:45:335 (6) - Shouldn't you add a New Combo here? Since you were adding one every 4/1 tick, it looks inconsistent without one here.

01:13:959 (6,1) - Change NCs here, since the new section starts on (6), not on (1).

01:21:665 (2) - In my opinion, would be really better to delete the repeat and add a circle here 01:22:766. Ending a slider on a strong beat is really bad since it removes all the emphasis. Well, this is just my opinion, you can either change it or not.

Bless' Normal


00:24:417 (2,3) - Not sure if your intention was to follow the beat on the red tick. But if it was, would be better to start (3) on the red tick, to emphasize that beat, not on the white tick.

Melt's Hard


00:45:334 (1) - Consider increasing the spacing here a bit, since it's a strong beat. Somewhere near x40 y84 would be fine!

01:22:766 (1) - Hmm... not sure if it's 100% readable due to the AR. In my opinion, moving to x374 y216 would be much better. But, again, this is just my opinion.

yf's Extra


00:45:335 (1) - In my opinion, Ctrl + G here would improve the flow.

00:53:041 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - I guess the players aren't expecting this 1/3 rhythm. You can add some 1/3 sliders and then some cirles, just to warn them that this is a 1/3 rhythm, not 1/4. Incresing the DS would help too.

Awesome diff.

Dark


This one isn't Additional Modding, they must be fixed.


00:13:408 (3) - The beat here is really strong and the DS is really close. Stacking it with (4) would improve a bit.

00:14:234 (3,4,1) - Shouldn't the spacing here increse instead of descrease? Since the song is more louder here would be better to increase.

00:24:417 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - On this section you should change the Distance Snap pattern after every 3 notes, not 4. Same about the NC. Screen (this is just an example of what I said above).

00:26:963 (1) - Shouldn't it be a 1/8 slider? The sound pattern here is the same as 00:26:963 (1,1,2) - but you didn't add a 1/8 slider. Plus, this slider is almost the same size as the 1/4 slider you added before, it's kinda confusing. Consider changing it.

00:31:573 (1) - Remember the thing I mentioned about the DS too low on a too loud beat? Same applies here. This is even an anti-jump. Doing this would improve a lot.

00:53:041 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I guess the players aren't expecting this 1/3 rhythm. You can add some 1/3 sliders and then some cirles, just to warn them that this is a 1/3 rhythm, not 1/4. Incresing the DS would help too.

01:01:573 (1,2) - Increase the DS here, the circular slider is hidding the notes. Plus, the low DS is really confusing and it isn't indicating a properly 1/2 rhythm.

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OblivioN
Stack Leniency can be 0 now right ?
and my diff is insane right?

ok,let gxy to make a choose .I gave up 1s ago.
Cherry Blossom

Kuron-kun wrote:

Reason for Bubble Pop

A unsnapped green line (inherited point) on Dark diff at 00:05:825 - consider fixing it.
Unsnapped greenlines are not unrankable unless they are not Kiai end/start.

Kuron-kun wrote:

Not sure about the rhythm you were following on Melt's Hard diff. You ignored A LOT of strong beats on the beginning, and that could be really confusing for some players, since the strong beat is a lot louder than the weak one. I would really consider adding at least a circle on those beats
Following strong beats is not Melt's first intention ? Imo it is more intuitive to follow the other intruments than the strong beat, i think that this current version of this diff is really well made. And i also trust in Melt's style.

Awh well, this bubble pop was unavoidable. Issues in Dark diff could not be considered as a valid reason for bubble pop since they are questionable and they require more or less subjectivity.
Concerning this one 00:26:963 (1) - 1/8 are same as 1/4 ? I don't really think this need to be changed.

When there are questionable things, before bubble popping, just get more opinions, mainly from the BNs who were involved in pushing this map forward ?
The wrongly snapped object is a valid reason and something that is not questionable (in a majority of cases), but "quality" is subjective and questionable, and needs more opinions.


OblivioN wrote:

Stack Leniency can be 0 now right ?
and my diff is insane right?
No, stack leniency 0 is unrankable since you have to edit manually the .osz file, and editing manually a .osz file to change something which can't be done in editor is unrankable. There are exceptions like lead-in etc.
Topic Starter
gxytcgxytc

Kuron-kun wrote:

Hey, gxytcgxytc! I had to pop the bubble for some reasons I'll mention below. This was really necessary and you can call me for a rebubble when you apply the mods. Sorry for the inconvenience.


Reason for Bubble Pop
  1. A unsnapped green line (inherited point) on Dark diff at 00:05:825 - consider fixing it. ok

  2. Consider adding at least +1 (3) Stack Leniency on OblivioN's Insane diff. It's really inconsistent the way it's now and could be some times confusing.

  3. Again on OblivioN's Insane, this slider 00:55:243 (1) - should be 1/8 like on the others diffs. It's really inconsistent the way it's now and it's even ignoring the sound. Consider changing it.

  4. Not sure about the rhythm you were following on Melt's Hard diff. You ignored A LOT of strong beats on the beginning, and that could be really confusing for some players, since the strong beat is a lot louder than the weak one. I would really consider adding at least a circle on those beats

  5. A lot of issues on Dark diff that, in my opinion, should be fixed. I'll mention them below.

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Additional Modding

Easy


00:28:821 (2) - This hitsounds actually sounds like a normal-hitnormal, shouldn't it sound like a drum? Change the sampleset thing into Auto or Drum, so it would be consistent.

00:45:335 (6) - Shouldn't you add a New Combo here? Since you were adding one every 4/1 tick, it looks inconsistent without one here.

01:13:959 (6,1) - Change NCs here, since the new section starts on (6), not on (1).

01:21:665 (2) - In my opinion, would be really better to delete the repeat and add a circle here 01:22:766. Ending a slider on a strong beat is really bad since it removes all the emphasis. Well, this is just my opinion, you can either change it or not. all fixed

Bless' Normal


00:24:417 (2,3) - Not sure if your intention was to follow the beat on the red tick. But if it was, would be better to start (3) on the red tick, to emphasize that beat, not on the white tick. here was good

Melt's Hard


00:45:334 (1) - Consider increasing the spacing here a bit, since it's a strong beat. Somewhere near x40 y84 would be fine! ok

01:22:766 (1) - Hmm... not sure if it's 100% readable due to the AR. In my opinion, moving to x374 y216 would be much better. But, again, this is just my opinion.



Dark


This one isn't Additional Modding, they must be fixed.


00:13:408 (3) - The beat here is really strong and the DS is really close. Stacking it with (4) would improve a bit.ok

00:14:234 (3,4,1) - Shouldn't the spacing here increse instead of descrease? Since the song is more louder here would be better to increase.tone dec

00:24:417 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - On this section you should change the Distance Snap pattern after every 3 notes, not 4. Same about the NC. Screen (this is just an example of what I said above). remap partten

00:26:963 (1) - Shouldn't it be a 1/8 slider? The sound pattern here is the same as 00:26:963 (1,1,2) - but you didn't add a 1/8 slider. Plus, this slider is almost the same size as the 1/4 slider you added before, it's kinda confusing. Consider changing it. fixed

00:31:573 (1) - Remember the thing I mentioned about the DS too low on a too loud beat? Same applies here. This is even an anti-jump. Doing this would improve a lot. ok

00:53:041 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I guess the players aren't expecting this 1/3 rhythm. You can add some 1/3 sliders and then some cirles, just to warn them that this is a 1/3 rhythm, not 1/4. Incresing the DS would help too.emm

01:01:573 (1,2) - Increase the DS here, the circular slider is hidding the notes. Plus, the low DS is really confusing and it isn't indicating a properly 1/2 rhythm.ok

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thx for mod !
Kuron-kun
No.

The minimum Stack Leniency is 2, but on your difficulty would be really break the consistency, this is why I recommended changing it.

btw, thanks for your post CB, didn't know about Melt's rhythm intention. My first intention to pop the bubble was because of DS issues on Dark diff, I even did talk to the mapper and we fixed almost everything
OblivioN

Cherry Blossom wrote:

OblivioN wrote:

Stack Leniency can be 0 now right ?
and my diff is insane right?
No, stack leniency 0 is unrankable since you have to edit manually the .osz file, and editing manually a .osz file to change something which can't be done in editor is unrankable. There are exceptions like lead-in etc.
got it :)
I just on my bed and don't want get up :)I'm ok

beside these.
Melt is a pro mapper.
And I don't think everyone should make beatmap flow the down beats.
as you know ,a song is make up by many things ,such as :vocal,drum ,chord etc.
if everyone flow the down beats…
Cherry Blossom
Never give up OblivioN :3/
Kuron-kun
oh, btw again, about the 1/8. I won't edit because no one will see it >_>

I pointed it out because Extra and Dark did use 1/8 rhythm, then 1/4 would be "inconsistent"? Plus, 1/8 would follow the song more properly. But yes, since 1/4 is the same as 1/8 I guess you can keep it
OblivioN

Kuron-kun wrote:

oh, btw again, about the 1/8. I won't edit because no one will see it >_>

I pointed it out because Extra and Dark did use 1/8 rhythm, then 1/4 would be "inconsistent"? Plus, 1/8 would follow the song more properly. But yes, since 1/4 is the same as 1/8 I guess you can keep it
but I didn't say any thing about that o.O
I said let gxy to do the choose.
Cause I forgot where I used 1/8 oops ,1/4Edit: ( ̄▽ ̄)

and in last post ,I edited :I'm on my bed balabalabala
Topic Starter
gxytcgxytc

OblivioN wrote:

Kuron-kun wrote:

oh, btw again, about the 1/8. I won't edit because no one will see it >_>

I pointed it out because Extra and Dark did use 1/8 rhythm, then 1/4 would be "inconsistent"? Plus, 1/8 would follow the song more properly. But yes, since 1/4 is the same as 1/8 I guess you can keep it
but I didn't say any thing about that o.O
I said let gxy to do the choose.
Cause I forgot where I used 1/8
其实歪歌他后面说那个1/8应该不是你的diff;w; 不过该fix的我都fix了 休息啦 ~
胃好疼 疼醒了发现多了个post
OblivioN

gxytcgxytc wrote:

OblivioN wrote:

but I didn't say any thing about that o.O
I said let gxy to do the choose.
Cause I forgot where I used 1/8
其实歪歌他后面说那个1/8应该不是你的diff;w; 不过该fix的我都fix了 休息啦 ~
胃好疼 疼醒了发现多了个post
fix了就好,晚安,你胃疼我头疼ˊ_>ˋ
Kuron-kun
no no, I'm not saying you did say something like that xD
OblivioN

Kuron-kun wrote:

no no, I'm not saying you did say something like that xD
well :3
still thank you for help my friend to fix the beatmap .
goodnight ,2a.m. here ;-)
yf_bmp
fixed all

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300,156,73546,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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256,80,74784,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,172,74922,2,0,P|310:194|348:199,1,77.0000023498536,0|4,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
344,108,75197,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Topic Starter
gxytcgxytc
updated~
Kuron-kun
Looks great now! (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚
Flask
我憤怒的想把大家的泡都戳一遍
Topic Starter
gxytcgxytc

Flask wrote:

我憤怒的想把大家的泡都戳一遍
镇定镇定...._(:з」∠)_
kuhekin
Ngon :D
-Nya-
Heya~ Responding to your request in-game.

General:
  1. I already suggested, in-game, that you rather change the BG image since it looks a bit pale and, well, boring. I’ll send the link to the image that I found online again: http://bz1080p.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/bz1080p.com_2015-02-23_15-09-38.jpg
    Take note: It’s not the right resolution though. I suggest a resolution of 1366X768.
  2. Why is the slider velocity of the Insane like 1.90 and the Extra (1.40) and “Dark” diff (1.03)way lower? The SV gap between the Hard and Insane is then also very big: Hard – 0.85 and Insane – 1.90. It looks very unbalanced and I highly suggest that the Insane’s SV has to be lowered. I guess it’s not such a big issue if the SV doesn’t range from lowest to highest, but imo the SV gap between Hard and Insane is definitely an issue.
  3. Furthermore, the gap between Normal and Hard generally is also pretty big, since Normal is so easy. I highly suggest you try to lift the difficulty of the Normal (I’ll see where I can help). And if you also take a look at this mapset with the same song, you’ll see that the Normal is quite difficult: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/164075
Dark:
  1. 00:13:546 (4,5,3,4) –Perhaps try to stack these notes on top of each other? Just for neatness purposes.
  2. 00:34:601 (1,1) –You added new combos there, but didn’t do the same here: 00:17:261 (3,3) – for the same beat. Try to keep it consistent.

Nice diff. Couldn’t really find anything else.

yf’s Extra:
  1. 00:31:573 (1,2,3,4) – and 00:40:381 (1,2,3,4) - The only thing that bothered me a bit, was the fact that these notes were placed too close to each other. While playing, it seems like one has to click on them faster than you actually have to, like these: 00:53:041 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – or 01:04:945 (3,4,5) – Why not place them like you placed these: 00:22:766 (1,2,3,4) - (The placement of these: 00:48:913 (1,2,3,4) – are fine though, since the rhythm is slower)

Nothing else really.

OblivioN's Insane:
  1. The stack leniency in this diff is too low. Take a look at this:
  2. 00:47:812 – to 00:53:867 – Not sure if it’s a good idea to add a break here. The reason for this is because the other two difficult diffs (Extra and “Dark” diff) doesn’t have any breaks and I feel it would be wise to map that section out so these three diffs are consistent.
Melt's Hard:
  1. Okay, personally, I strongly feel that you have to avoid the overlapping notes: 00:10:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,2,3,6,7,8) – etc. because it just feels unnecessary and imo, the diff would play better if you lift the distance spacing a bit. Perhaps not everywhere, but definitely at places like this: 00:10:107 (1,2,3) - 00:14:096 (6,7,8) - 00:17:811 (3,4,5) - 00:22:904 (7,8,9) – etc. I suggest a distance spacing of 1.3X then.
  2. 00:11:206 – 00:13:408 - 00:15:610 - 00:20:014 – etc. I don’t know if it’s such a good idea to leave these beats out and not map them, since they are so strong and very loud too, but I also understand what rhythm you are following. Just voicing my opinion.
  3. 00:45:610 – to 00:53:317 –Like I said in the Insane, I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to add a break here. Because this part is still mapable and the song isn’t that long so imo it shouldn’t even have breaks and also because the “Dark” diff and Extra doesn’t have any breaks.
  4. 00:40:105 (6) –I’m scared this slider might be too high. Please lower it a bit, just to be safe.
  5. 00:43:133 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – I would rather not let them touch each other. It looks a bit untidy and spacing them will work much better.
  6. 01:09:555 (1) – Lower the tail a bit.
Bless' Normal:
  1. Raise the HP drain rate to 4, since 3 is too low imo.
  2. Like I said in the “General” tab, this diff is a bit too undermapped and thus too easy causing a big gap between the Normal and Hard.
  3. 00:00:380 (1) –For this part, I would rather follow a rhythm like this:

    The long repeat slider just doesn’t catch all the necessary beats imo.
  4. 00:02:804 (1) -^
  5. 00:05:228 (1) -^
  6. 00:10:931 (1,1,2,1,2) –This part is way undermapped. You miss a lot of beats that can be mapped. Here’s an example of a rhythm I would follow:

    Something like above.
  7. 00:20:289 –to 00:20:839 – Why leave this empty? I highly suggest you place notes there. Like this:
  8. 00:22:491 –to 00:23:041 - ^
  9. 00:25:931 (2) –How about something like this instead?
  10. 00:27:720 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) –I would rather not follow this rhythm if I were you. It’s too simple and the other rhythm is more effective and more notes can be placed.

    Something like the above example.
  11. There are a lot of other places as well where I feel it’s undermapped. I suggest going through the diff and try to change rhythms that seems a bit too easy.
Easy:
  1. 00:18:913 (1) –This slider is too high. Please lower it down a bit.
  2. 00:56:344 (1,2) –Rather follow the rhythm normally and don’t just place two random circles. Perhaps something like this:
  3. 01:22:766 (3) –Try to stack this note on the head of 01:20:564 (1) –

Overall, there is still some things that require a lot of fixing, especially the ones that I bolded.
When you have made the necessary fixes, you can call me back.

Good Luck~!
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