The Road to Cookiezi-Tier

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Vuelo Eluko

LuckyStrike wrote:

That's exactly what i'm talking about. You won't be good as Cookiezi if you won't try as hard/harder than him.

Also another thing. If you can't enjoy playing hard osu! maps for 10h+/per day, it makes you bored or smth like that - forget about it, too. Because it seemed like Cookiezi was playing so much because he really enjoyed the game.

And another one thing. About playing a lot. Cookiezi didn't actually need to play so much. There were not so much people, so he could improve fast enough even without nolifing. Nowadays there are a lot of people who actually improve fast, that's why nowadays you HAVE TO practice even more hard than cookiezi did. Sure you can come close to his level in 10 years, but compared to other people in 10 years, you will be still a noob. That's what i'm talking about
I wouldn't be surprised if in 10 years the level Cookiezi was at the end of last year will still be unmatched simply because I doubt rrtyui will be playing for much longer [hes bored of no competition] and it's hard to get the level of aim those 2 have since only big circle maps get ranked nowadays and thats probably not going to change?

Buuut who knows a lot can happen in 10 years, many can rise and fall, and I like to think Osu will still be around because of the community nature of it, not just some disposable way for some company to jew people with cash shop based free gameplay until it's not profitable then pulling the plug. It's also kind of 'timeless'.
LuckyStrike

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if in 10 years the level Cookiezi was at the end of last year will still be unmatched simply because I doubt rrtyui will be playing for much longer [hes bored of no competition] and it's hard to get the level of aim those 2 have since only big circle maps get ranked nowadays and thats probably not going to change?

Buuut who knows a lot can happen in 10 years, many can rise and fall, and I like to think Osu will still be around because of the community nature of it, not just some disposable way for some company to jew people with cash shop based free gameplay until it's not profitable then pulling the plug. It's also kind of 'timeless'.
Wha... i don't even...

Are you high? Who doesn't allow you to change circle size? It doesn't take very long time to change them via editor (although i wrote a program for myself for instant changing it). Also circle size doesn't really matter. You probably don't even know what reading is (and don't say like you do. I'm sure you are from those people who think "OH GOD AR 10 DAMN SO FAST PEOPLE WHO CAN READ IT ARE GODS", although AR10 makes everything easier. For example i'm sure there would be much more FCs at dragonforce maps if they were AR9, and freedom dive if it was AR10, at least i could pass it on AR10, but i can't on AR9).

Also rrtyui started to play when circles were big and yet he has the best aim atm.
TheVileOne
Noone is stopping anyone from using smaller circles. Older maps weren't even difficult by today's standards. I don't know where this whole circle size issue became a problem. Today's maps are more difficult than older (ranked/approved) maps.
jasian
If you wanna be Cookiezi you're going to need to dedicate your life for the next few years to even get close to him. To build the muscle memory, reading, timing, stamina and speed to match Cookiezi isn't going to be easy.


Here's a rundown of how dominant he was before he was banned as shown by Osutp.net (November 2013):
(His scores on that page) (Cumulative total)
page 1 34 34/50
page 2 21 55/100
page 3 24 79/150
page 4 27 106/200
page 5 14 120/250
page 6 14 134/300
page 7 10 144/350
page 8 17 161/400
page 9 14 175/450
page 10 12 187/500


As you can see here Cookiezi owned more than two thirds (68%) of the top 50 scores ever in Osu! at that time. In the top 500 scores he owned 187 of 500, or 37.4%. When you're able to own two thirds of the best ever scores you know that you cannot be matched. Rrtyui is amazing, but not even on Cookiezi's level. This isn't fanboying, this is straight up facts.

I like your determination, but I think you underestimate just how hard Cookiezi dominated Osu!
Vuelo Eluko

LuckyStrike wrote:

Wha... i don't even...

Are you high? Who doesn't allow you to change circle size? It doesn't take very long time to change them via editor (although i wrote a program for myself for instant changing it). Also circle size doesn't really matter. You probably don't even know what reading is (and don't say like you do. I'm sure you are from those people who think "OH GOD AR 10 DAMN SO FAST PEOPLE WHO CAN READ IT ARE GODS", although AR10 makes everything easier. For example i'm sure there would be much more FCs at dragonforce maps if they were AR9, and freedom dive if it was AR10, at least i could pass it on AR10, but i can't on AR9).

Also rrtyui started to play when circles were big and yet he has the best aim atm.
i know what reading is. AR10 does indeed make everything easier. There are plenty of maps I can pass better at ar10 versus ar9... AR10 makes it easier because it's fast and you have to read less.

so that taken into consideration sounds like you're the one who can't read if your last statement is true. Let me guess. 400x100? It's not whack-a-mole. Practice. Turn on hitsounds. Stop staring at the approach circles. Good luck.
LuckyStrike

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

i know what reading is. AR10 does indeed make everything easier. There are plenty of maps I can pass better at ar10 versus ar9... AR10 makes it easier because it's fast and you have to read less.

so that taken into consideration sounds like you're the one who can't read if your last statement is true. Let me guess. 400x100? It's not whack-a-mole. Practice. Turn on hitsounds. Stop staring at the approach circles. Good luck.
Sure I can't read, and nobody else can, if we talk about FD/dragonforce maps. And if we talk about me, my best run on FD was about 88% accuracy until the spaced streams at the end, and 95% with autopilot.

Also i never starred at approach circles, don't give me advices, pls. The main thing is amount of elements on the screen. The more elements = the harder to read, that's all.

And i know about my bad reading, that's why the whole last month i've been playing usually 140-160BPM maps with AR7 (mostly warm-up), 170-190 with AR8 (dt sometimes) and 190-220 maps with AR9. Ofcourse not easy maps. They're full of 1/2 jumps, since i wrote a program for it (before it i was playing that guitar vs piano by Aqo).
Vuelo Eluko

LuckyStrike wrote:

95% with autopilot. .
you can taiko with 2 buttons and no color coded notes
thats pretty impressive.
LuckyStrike

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

LuckyStrike wrote:

95% with autopilot. .
you can taiko with 2 buttons and no color coded notes
thats pretty impressive.
Taiko? what are you talking about? If you mean i used two hands, then you are wrong. I don't even know if you're serious about it. There are much people who can stream 4D, but not FC'd it yet because it's hard to read.
Vuelo Eluko
Taiko is the game mode where you use the keyboard to hit notes that approach. If you start up Osu! and go to Play > Solo you can select it from the list of modes at the bottom.
TheVileOne
Please lets not turn this into a flame war about who can read what map.

Also may I add the differences in each of your ranks. Know your place in the skill chain.
Vuelo Eluko

TheVileOne wrote:

Please lets not turn this into a flame war about who can read what map.

Also may I add the differences in each of your ranks. Know your place in the skill chain.
What does rank have to do with this?
Coffee Hero

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

i know what reading is. AR10 does indeed make everything easier. There are plenty of maps I can pass better at ar10 versus ar9... AR10 makes it easier because it's fast and you have to read less.

so that taken into consideration sounds like you're the one who can't read if your last statement is true. Let me guess. 400x100? It's not whack-a-mole. Practice. Turn on hitsounds. Stop staring at the approach circles. Good luck.
I highly doubt you can even play AR9 well and AR 10 at all.
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Woobowiz
Please friends T.T
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Vuelo Eluko

Shirokami- wrote:

I highly doubt you can even play AR9 well and AR 10 at all.
i can't play well in general but i can play both of those.
why's everyone assuming ar10 is unplayable for me? Did they all take years to learn it? Did you 2 spend years farming easy/normals in ppv1?
thanks for giving me another excuse to grab an extra post count
usa
good luck.
highly ignorant and unrealistic goal, but whatever.

just hope you'll eventually realize there is a difference between tackling a massive mountain all at once and tackling small steps to get you up the mountain.
also, just because you try, doesn't mean you'll succeed or that it'll get you anywhere.
same thing with "believing" that you'll succeed.
you are born with a certain maximum capacity and physical limit, just don't be upset if it's not what you "believed" it to be.

there is an insane amount of technicality in osu!, and you'll start to understand it as you get better at the game.
at that time, you'll realize why all the top ranking people who have been playing as much and hard as (if not harder than) cokezi couldn't beat him.

most people hit their try hard breaking point in 1-2 years, so good luck keeping this up beyond that.
NinjaNick
It's gonna be hard, good luck, your going to need it.
El Koko
you're all so annoying and demoralising let the dude play

I don't believe he's actually taking into account what most of you are saying anyway; he has the determination to do it and most important of all, he wants to have fun doing it.

Do your best boy, I believe it's going to be entertaining to see your progress. Not wishing you luck, this game isn't about luck.
mcdoomfrag

Woobowiz wrote:

I'm not quite sure how long it will take me to reach that level, in terms of just clearing those songs,I'd give it by the end of summer? (You can laugh if you want)

I'm gonna work on AR, then Streams, then I'll step into faster songs. After I get comfortable with AR 9 and OD 8/9, then I'll work on FCing Talent Shredder
I don't want to sound demoralizing, but you should probably work on setting some more realistic short term goals. After you get comfortable with AR 9, you will still be MILES away from FCing Talent Shredder, and don't get me started on big black/chipscape by the end of summer, you are severely underestimating the difficulty of these maps (Though you were probably gonna realize this on your own soon enough, I'll just attribute your statements to blissful ignorance of a new osu player).

If anything, take my words as a challenge, more than being demoralizing, but I just want to make sure you understand just HOW difficult maps like Talent Shredder are to FC. Getting comfortable with AR9 will only allow you to beat your average insane map. Maps like Talent Shredder are far from being your average insane map (spaced streaming and hard to read). Try FCing The Island or maybe Wahrheit first, they are probably better short term goals. Just my 2 cents.
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Woobowiz

mcdoomfrag wrote:

Woobowiz wrote:

I'm not quite sure how long it will take me to reach that level, in terms of just clearing those songs,I'd give it by the end of summer? (You can laugh if you want)

I'm gonna work on AR, then Streams, then I'll step into faster songs. After I get comfortable with AR 9 and OD 8/9, then I'll work on FCing Talent Shredder
I don't want to sound demoralizing, but you should probably work on setting some more realistic short term goals. After you get comfortable with AR 9, you will still be MILES away from FCing Talent Shredder, and don't get me started on big black/chipscape by the end of summer, you are severely underestimating the difficulty of these maps (Though you were probably gonna realize this on your own soon enough, I'll just attribute your statements to blissful ignorance of a new osu player).

If anything, take my words as a challenge, more than being demoralizing, but I just want to make sure you understand just HOW difficult maps like Talent Shredder are to FC. Getting comfortable with AR9 will only allow you to beat your average insane map. Maps like Talent Shredder are far from being your average insane map (spaced streaming and hard to read). Try FCing The Island or maybe Wahrheit first, they are probably better short term goals. Just my 2 cents.
I'll take a look at those 2 tomorrow, thanks for the suggestion!

EDIT: Also, Nonon is best La Kill
TheVileOne
Please leave personal conflict outside of this thread.
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