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Tadashi Ikegami & Shogo Sakai - Dream Land N64

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Crimmi
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, March 14, 2010 at 2:19:15 PM

Artist: Tadashi Ikegami & Shogo Sakai
Title: Dream Land N64
Source: Super Smash Bros.
Tags: Kirby Game Cube Nintendo Loogiesquared
BPM: 186.9
Filesize: 3103kb
Play Time: 01:46
Difficulties Available:
  1. Baby Star (1.22 stars, 81 notes)
  2. Dreamland (4.53 stars, 199 notes)
  3. Loogie's Dreamland (4.73 stars, 337 notes)
  4. Pop Star (3.68 stars, 125 notes)
  5. Super Star (5 stars, 388 notes)
Download: Tadashi Ikegami & Shogo Sakai - Dream Land N64
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Status: Not Pubbled/Bubbled

My Second Official Map.
From Super Smash Bros. Melee
Thanks To LoogieSquared For His Difficulties. =] (Loogie's Easy, Normal & Hard)
Added Insane.
Renamed Tags So Redownload Please.
Fixed Easy And Loogie's Hard (Renamed Loogie's Dreamland)
Very Easy - Baby Star (awww...for the cute little newbies xD)
Easy - Pop Star ( Let's see you shine!)
Normal - Dreamland (A Normality of your skill..)
Hard - Loogie's Dreamland (Hmm...???)
Insane - Super Star (Get ready cause you're gonna shine...)

Used Lokamp's Mod.
Used Xgor's Mod.
Used varq's Mod.
Used BananasGoMoo's Mod.
Used Gens' Mod.
Added "Baby Star" Diff.
Used Konan-Yoshi666's Mod
Used EEeee's Mod.
Used BagnoGamer's Mod
Used Real1's Mod.
Used NoHitter's Mod
Used Blissfulyoshi's Mod.
Used bmin11's Mod.
Used James2250's Mod.
anonymous_old
Gens
[General]
  1. Background is ugly. Think you could do something about it? =[
  2. The mp3 ends so... suddenly. Can you get a better mp3 please?
  3. Set a preview point.
  4. It's useless to have tags exactly the same as the source. You can add these tags instead: "Kirby Superstar Dreamland Loogiesquared". Be sure not to add a "," between each tag, and apply them to all difficulties.
[Timing]
  1. BPM: 186.90
  2. Offset: 760
Please try to stick with this as much as you can; I must warn you, some modders tend to change timing even if it's correct, screwing everything up. I am pretty certain this BPM/offset is correct, so do not change timing unless said by someone like awp (pro at timing).

[Loogie's Easy]
  1. Sliders are screwed. Seems like you forgot to change slider velocity. Please recheck them all.
  2. Resnap all notes and recheck slider lengths.
00:23:520 - Missing break.
00:31:055 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Please do not use so many 1/2 beats, it would be too hard for a newbie. Closer spacing =/= Easier.
00:34:114 - Missing break.
00:41:083 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same as 00:31:055 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3).
00:52:010 (1,1,1,1,2) - I don't think the new combos fit, plus you should use less short sliders.
01:04:611 - Missing break.
01:14:563 - Awkward ending, you need to map the whole song. Also, if you're going to copy paste, don't do it with HALF THE SONG, and at least flip horizontally or vertically.

[Loogie's Normal]
  1. Sliders are screwed. Seems like you forgot to change slider velocity. Please recheck them all.
  2. Resnap all notes and recheck slider lengths.
00:22:056 (1) - You can extend this spinner by a whole beat, it would sound a lot better.
00:41:083 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Too hard for a normal difficulty.
00:44:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - ^
01:04:611 - Missing break.
01:08:080 (3) - Offscreen notes are unrankable.
01:14:563 - Same as [Loogie's Easy].

[Normal]
  1. This difficulty is much better. Great job!
[Loogie's Hard]
  1. Needs Audio Lead-In.
  2. Needs more hitsounds.
  3. Sliders aren't that screwed like the other difficulties, but you still need to recheck them all.
  4. Resnap all notes and recheck slider lengths.
  5. You should have mapped this with larger constant distance snap. [Loogie's Normal] has a larger distance snap... I mean seriously.
  6. You need to modify the difficulty settings more. I'd use a higher overall difficulty.
  7. You could use more sliders.
00:31:079 (2,3) - What? I couldn't tell these were sliders. One map was unranked once due to these kind of sliders, so they're pretty much unrankable.
00:44:038 (1) - This should be on the previous white tick. Also add one slider repeat
00:46:080 (1) - Delete two repeats and add a beat at 00:47:115.
00:49:037 (1) - ^, obviously with the beat added at 00:49:684 instead.
01:04:611 - Missing break.
01:12:048 - Same as [Loogie's Easy] and [Loogie's Normal].

[Insane]
  1. You should have used larger distance snap and a faster slider velocity.
01:13:027 (5) - Yes, maybe these jumps are intended, but they didn't felt intuitive for me. And you need to add a new combo for each jump like these.
01:13:092 (8,9,10) - Doesn't go too well with the melody.
01:35:075 (9) - New combo (a combo of 18 is just too much).
01:48:592 - Awkward ending, you need to map the whole song, like you did in [Normal].

~ ~ ~

Phew. That took awhile. D=
Call me back whenever you fix these things. Your star will have to wait for now.
Topic Starter
Crimmi
Well Gens Most Songs From Smash Bros. Melee Don't End Which Is Pointless So I Found One That Was Edited So Far Unless There Is One That Is Better Than This Let Me Know And I'll Check it Out.
varq
[Pop Star]
-If this is supposed to be an Easy, I would suggest lowering the slider speed by a bit.
-There are some major spacing problems on this difficulty.

[Dreamland]
~Nothing

[Loogie's Dreamland]
00:11:035 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing difference on the (5)
00:15:052 (3) - Spacing
00:20:002 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Make sure this is symmetrical
00:42:065 (6,7,8) - Spacing
00:44:041 (1,2) - Don't like, please consider changing
00:46:082 (1,2) - ^
00:48:040 (9,10,11) - ^
00:49:039 (1,2) - ^
00:52:012 (1,2) - ^
00:53:054 (8,9,10) - ^

-This felt like it starts as a Normal, then changes into a Hard

[Super Star]
00:18:041 (1) - This slider is too close to (14) in the last combo
00:46:097 - Add a beat here
00:47:030 - ^
00:49:054 - ^
00:49:086 - ^
00:52:012 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Check the spacing here.
01:17:080 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - The shape of this combo is weird, in my opinion
01:20:037 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Make sure this is symmetrical, the (5) and (7) are closer together than the other beats
01:22:094 (1,2,3,4) - (1) and (2) are further apart than (3) and (4)
01:24:086 (7,8,9) - This could be a better triangle
01:36:010 (2,3,4) - ^
01:36:074 (5,6,7,8) - This would look better if the (5) and (8) were the same distance apart as the (6) and (7)
01:44:077 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - I personally don't like these
02:03:087 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Can you make this symmetrical also?

-I think there should be less breaks at the end.

Star
Lokamp
Pop Star
00:07:018 (4) - finish this slider's end
00:18:073 (1) - finish here
00:57:026 (1) - ^
00:59:082 (1,2) - a jump pretty cruel for an Easy mode... try to make it easier, please.
01:02:039 (1,2,3,4) - like upper... make these beats further from each others...
01:19:008 (3) - whistle this slider's end
01:20:069 (2,6) - whistle here
01:44:012 (2) - move it a square down
01:45:009 (5,7) - move 5th a few squares down and move the 7th a few squares up

Dreamland
00:03:032 (1) - finish here
00:04:061 (3) - whistle this slider's repeat
00:08:046 (1) - finish here
00:14:088 (2) - whistle the slider's end
00:20:034 (4) - whistle here
00:21:030 (7) - ... new combo?
00:32:086 (3) - move it a square right
01:07:053 (1) - finish here
01:08:081 (3) - whistle this slider's end
01:12:066 (1) - finish here, too
01:19:008 (3) - whistle this slider's repeat
01:22:094 (1) - finish here (and move it 2 squares left)

Loogie's Dreamland
[General] some beat couples are pretty ugly... like on 00:03:032 and on 00:03:097,for example. Try instead beat sections like on 01:22:094 (1,2,3) or use sliders! there aren't too many through the map.
00:32:054 (5,6,7) - move them more left...
00:33:050 (2,3) - cruel and nonsense jump... try to invent something more original!
00:48:040 (9,10) - ... VERY weird... replace them with a rapid slider or delete them.
00:53:054 (9, 10) - ^

SuperStar
00:18:009 (14,1) - spacing... make the blue slider more distant from the orange beat
00:21:014 (12) - remove this beat
00:36:071 (13) - new combo
00:46:082 (1,2,3, 4) - these couples of beats are tricky to hit rhythmically. Do something!
00:49:039 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:57:074 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - pretty hard to read. Make them more distant or try another beat-placing...
01:03:019 (12,13) - remove whistle from the beat and set it instead on the next slider's start
01:15:023 (8) - new combo
01:23:090 (4,5) - spacing again...

...there is a lot of work to do, here... but it's anyway nice to play!
Maybe add more sounds on Loogie's mode... (Star ;3)
Xgor
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
BananasGoMoo
[Super Star]
02:02:074 (1) - I think this slider shouldn't be here, put a slider or some notes instead.

[Loogie's Dreamland]
Great! :D

[Dreamland]
Fine.

[Pop Star]
00:14:024 (2) - spacing.
00:15:052 (4) - ^
00:19:037 (2) - ^
00:20:066 (4) - ^
00:49:087 (2) - i dont think this should be under the slider on an easy
01:02:039 (1,2,3,4) - odd spacing
or you could just make lower distance spacing on this one because a lot of your notes are too close (and because this is an easy)

starred.
Gens
[General]
  1. Sorry to say it, but you need an easier difficulty. I might be able to pull out something later, but right now I feel lazy for mapping.
  2. No preview point set? You could set it at 00:03:328 if you don't know where.
  3. Delete "Super Smash Bros." from the tags.
[Timing]
  1. You used 186.902 as the BPM... delete that .002.
[Pop Star]
  1. Overall, spacing changes a bit everytime, but it should be okay. You kept the same rhythm the whole time, and that's better.
00:09:106 (2,3) - Recheck the spacing here. Might be acceptable though...
00:53:407 (5,1) - Same.

[Dreamland]
  1. Woah, this difficulty is pretty similar to [Pop Star]. You should add more variety to it.
[Loogie's Dreamland]
  1. Resnap all notes.
00:32:059 (4,5) - Recheck the spacing here.
00:46:826 (1) - Hmm, delete 2 repeats? Sounds better. Obviously you'll have to respace everything after that.
00:49:395 (1) - Same.
01:07:533 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Recheck the spacing here, was kinda misleading...

[Super Star]
  1. There are some spacing problems, but it should be okay. You might want to recheck them if you want to get a good, polished map though.
00:46:826 (1,2,3,4) - Would sound better if they were triples.
00:49:395 (1,2,3,4) - Same.
00:52:444 (4,5) - Recheck the spacing.
01:02:396 (9) - New combo.
01:12:027 (12,1) - Recheck the spacing.
01:44:771 (6) - Be careful, don't overmap this song.

~ ~ ~

The map sure changed a lot. I now feel safe to star it. :)
konan-yoshi999
My modding >.< :P
[Pop Star]
01:21:339 (4) - the whistle is kinda random.
01:24:549 (4) - add whistle?
[Dreamland]
01:38:033 (6: End of the slider) - add whistle
[Loogie's Dreamland]
00:31:579 (1,2) - respace...


good map :D
EEeee
Timing
get rid of the .896
BPM = 186.900
offset = 744

all diffs look good, just that timing stuff, hope u like it, mainly just get rid of the .896
Also is this suppose to be in WIP? if not, put in pending plz
bagnz0r
[Baby Star]
* 00:19:363 (2, 3, 4, Spinner) - Move 1/4 right.
* 00:31:562 (2, 3, 4) ^
Generally, re-align all notes by moving them 1/4 right or left.

[Pop Star]
No compliants...
But how about making hitcircle quite smaller?

[Dreamland]
No compliants...
But how about making hitcircle quite smaller and increasing hp drain?

[Loogie's Dreamland]
No compliants...

[Super Star]
No compliants...
Real1
[Baby Star]
Lowerd the slidertick rate! If a noob plays this and misses one slider, he's toast. :(
00:09:732 (3) - Nazi, but move up one grid to match with the (5) slider coming later.
01:32:878 (1) - How abou starting this @ 1:33:199?

[Pop Star]
00:50:824 (5) - Too far from 4? Intended?

[Dreamland]
00:16:153 (5) - New combo

[Loogie's Dreamland]
00:48:256 (8,9) - A bit too hard to read this fast stack in the middle if everything happening.
01:58:882 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Add some hitsounds in this combo?

That's all I believe. +Star
blissfulyoshi
Add "Loogiesquared" to the tags for every diff.
Delete the .osb file and do a full resubmit.

Baby Star: fine (the spacing is quite high for the easiest diff)

Pop Star:
Combo mod:
00:11:016 (1) - remove new combo to be consistent with the other occurrences of this pattern
00:46:650 (5,6) - add a new combo to one of these notes to be consistent with 00:57:244 (1)

Dreamland:
Combo mod: (you seem to favor more combos in this diff)
00:05:880 (6) - new combo to be consistent with 01:10:085 (1)
00:10:695 (6) - ^
00:20:968 (6) - new combo to be consistent with 00:16:153 (1)
01:02:381 (6) - new combo?
01:14:901 (7) - new combo to be consistent with 01:10:085 (1)
01:20:358 (7) - ^
01:46:040 (5) - new combo?

Loogie's Dreamland:
The random spacing increases and decreases in this diff made this diff disorienting for me
Normal mod:
00:33:167 (1,2,3,4) - this jump felt random
00:46:811 (1) - the repeat is hard to see

Super Star:
The straight line patterns got a little boring to me after a while.

Combo mod;
01:13:296 (1) - why is there a new combo here?

===============================
Nice map. Star. if you fix the combo issues, I will probably p-bubble.

Edit: Sorry NoHItter
NoHitter
Edit: My mod has been ninja'd by blissfulyoshi
Omiited the other parts, so what's left are suggestions and nazis :(

Baby Star
00:16:153 (5) - Ugly imo
01:04:949 (3) - align with 2

Pop Star
01:24:853 (5) - Align with 3
01:25:174 (6) - stack with 2
01:45:077 (5,6,7) - Spacing check
bmin11
[Super Star]
00:47:292 (6) - Whistle
00:47:453 (7) - is this a jump?
00:49:861 (6) - Whistle
00:56:121 (12) - Whistle on the 2nd
01:07:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - I don't get why you closed down your spacing from here
01:11:048 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^ and I really recommand to fix this one since the spacing just changed in a sudden
01:36:089 (2,3,4) - Let it overlap eachother. I mean stack it I guess
01:44:756 (x) - add a note

[Loogie]
00:19:684 (6) - Just a grid off spaced
00:31:562 (1,2,3,4) - Don't chance your spacing this sudden. Maybe when the melody or the mood changed? Like
00:39:748 (2,3,4,5,6) - Here. Perfect place to change your spacing.
00:51:305 (11,12) - huh? let then overlap like the others
01:44:756 (9,10,11,12) - I guess I'll let you go with this :?

[Dreamland]
01:12:654 (1) - Should I? I guess I'll let you go with this
01:47:325 (1) - End this on the previous white tick

[Pop Star]
00:50:824 (5) - move this farther away
01:17:790 (1) - ^

[Baby Star]
00:41:835 (1) - End this on the previous white tick
01:46:040 (1) - ^
Topic Starter
Crimmi

bmin11 wrote:

[Super Star]
00:47:292 (6) - Whistle
00:47:453 (7) - is this a jump?
00:49:861 (6) - Whistle
00:56:121 (12) - Whistle on the 2nd
01:07:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - I don't get why you closed down your spacing from here
01:11:048 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^ and I really recommand to fix this one since the spacing just changed in a sudden
01:36:089 (2,3,4) - Let it overlap eachother. I mean stack it I guess
01:44:756 (x) - add a note
Overall: Fixed

[Loogie]
00:19:684 (6) - Just a grid off spaced
00:31:562 (1,2,3,4) - Don't chance your spacing this sudden. Maybe when the melody or the mood changed? Like
00:39:748 (2,3,4,5,6) - Here. Perfect place to change your spacing.
00:51:305 (11,12) - huh? let then overlap like the others
01:44:756 (9,10,11,12) - I guess I'll let you go with this :?
Fixed

[Dreamland]
01:12:654 (1) - Should I? I guess I'll let you go with this
01:47:325 (1) - End this on the previous white tick
Fixed

[Pop Star]
00:50:824 (5) - move this farther away
01:17:790 (1) - ^
Fixed

[Baby Star]
00:41:835 (1) - End this on the previous white tick
01:46:040 (1) - ^ Fixed
Now Waiting For A MAT/BAT To Look At It......
James2250
you don't need dreamland in tags
delete osb file in folder

Baby star:
00:03:312 (1,5) - stack these
00:09:090 (2,4) - align
00:16:153 (5) - looks kinda odd?
00:28:994 (1) - make symmetrical
00:39:267 (1,2,3) - make these aligned diagonally
01:38:336 (1) - I don't like how whistle sounds on this
01:43:472 (1,3) - align

Pop star:
00:04:596 (3) - stack under beginnin of 1 (and move 4 and 5)
00:20:005 (3) - position between 1 and 2
01:19:074 (3) - stack on 1 (and move 4)
01:38:015 (5,6) - spacing
I would also recommend checking shift+ctrl+A on this and fixing some of the spacing errors mentioned there

Dreamland:
00:20:968 (1) - remove new combo
00:34:772 (2,4) - could be stacked slightly better

Loogie:
00:18:721 (1,2,3) - make them aligned
00:46:811 (1) - add 3 repeats?
00:49:379 (1) - ^
00:52:108 (1) - ^ (im not really a big fan of these short sliders here to begin with)
01:19:074 (3) - new combo
01:32:397 (10) - add whistle to the end

Super star:
looks nice

*star*
Topic Starter
Crimmi

James2250 wrote:

you don't need dreamland in tags
delete osb file in folder

Baby star:
00:03:312 (1,5) - stack these
00:09:090 (2,4) - align
00:16:153 (5) - looks kinda odd?
00:28:994 (1) - make symmetrical
00:39:267 (1,2,3) - make these aligned diagonally
01:38:336 (1) - I don't like how whistle sounds on this
01:43:472 (1,3) - align Fixed.

Pop star:
00:04:596 (3) - stack under beginnin of 1 (and move 4 and 5)
00:20:005 (3) - position between 1 and 2
01:19:074 (3) - stack on 1 (and move 4)
01:38:015 (5,6) - spacing
I would also recommend checking shift+ctrl+A on this and fixing some of the spacing errors mentioned there Fixed.

Dreamland:
00:20:968 (1) - remove new combo
00:34:772 (2,4) - could be stacked slightly better Fixed.

Loogie:
00:18:721 (1,2,3) - make them aligned
00:46:811 (1) - add 3 repeats?
00:49:379 (1) - ^
00:52:108 (1) - ^ (im not really a big fan of these short sliders here to begin with)
01:19:074 (3) - new combo
01:32:397 (10) - add whistle to the end Fixed.

Super star:
looks nice

*star*
Thanks Even Though This Map Was Gonna Die....
maal
I guess I might just give you 5 stars then.
Topic Starter
Crimmi

emaal wrote:

I guess I might just give you 5 stars then.
LOL i wasn't expecting THIS map to go THIS far....orz. =P Orz...Never Mind.....
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