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Timing is easy now! (Tempora public beta)

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kongehund
229 posts
Joined May 2012
Topic Starter
kongehund

Tempora is now available to everyone in public beta!


Tempora is a program designed to make it fast and easy to time variable-BPM songs that need a gazillion timing points to be timed correctly.

Please see the video below which explains what it is and how to use it:



Download

When you upload maps timed with Tempra make sure to REMOVE the “tempora_timer” tag in your map!

If you leave it, the map will be ineligible for ranking due to misuse of tags.

I hope Tempora lets the mapping community explore songs with complex timing that would have otherwise been avoided.

Enjoy!
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Miku Hatsune
35 posts
Joined November 2017
Miku Hatsune
cool
Nevo
Global Moderator
1,190 posts
Joined November 2015
Nevo
neat :3c
xDololow
478 posts
Joined July 2014
xDololow
I can't open a specific mp3 in the tempora, it just does nothing. Here's mp3 https://files.xxxd.org/revo1/MotedUzE00.mp3
kongehund
229 posts
Joined May 2012
Topic Starter
kongehund

xDololow wrote:

I can't open a specific mp3 in the tempora, it just does nothing. Here's mp3 https://files.xxxd.org/revo1/MotedUzE00.mp3
Try saving it in Audacity for now (will fix later :) )
Aurele
Global Moderator
7,570 posts
Joined January 2011
Aurele
waitt that's so fun. thanks for sharing this tool here!
spaceman_atlas
osu!dev
515 posts
Joined July 2013
spaceman_atlas
No source code? Not even via github profile stalking? :( Hoping we can have something like that in-client eventually in lazer maybe if we can fit it somewhere.

That said I do wonder how you're handling the apparent known discrepancy between how waveforms look and how people have come to time beatmaps - just visually looking at the waveform isn't going to yield what people refer as "correct timing". For this purpose lazer applies a "visual offset" of ~20ms to the waveform so that the timing sounds as people expect it to. (See https://github.com/ppy/osu/issues/21947 for more on this.)
kongehund
229 posts
Joined May 2012
Topic Starter
kongehund

spaceman_atlas wrote:

No source code? Not even via github profile stalking? :( Hoping we can have something like that in-client eventually in lazer maybe if we can fit it somewhere.
I decided to open-source it.
https://github.com/teamkongehund/Tempora
BlueChinchompa
755 posts
Joined May 2019
BlueChinchompa
this will be huge
DeletedUser_2024727
DeletedUser_2024727

spaceman_atlas wrote:

No source code? Not even via github profile stalking? :( Hoping we can have something like that in-client eventually in lazer maybe if we can fit it somewhere.

That said I do wonder how you're handling the apparent known discrepancy between how waveforms look and how people have come to time beatmaps - just visually looking at the waveform isn't going to yield what people refer as "correct timing". For this purpose lazer applies a "visual offset" of ~20ms to the waveform so that the timing sounds as people expect it to. (See https://github.com/ppy/osu/issues/21947 for more on this.)
thank god I saw this post, now I know for sure I'm not going crazy when I'm converting from .sm to .osu out of arrowvortex. literally everything has been off by that amount and I thought I was fucking something up rofl

being able to visually chart music with dynamic/variable tempos rules and if ppl actually start using this to get stuff ranked, you're about to see a shift in charting meta
if I can use this to properly fix my converted garbage, hoo boy
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MonsieurSebas
93 posts
Joined March 2020
MonsieurSebas
this is awesome
Shiyzo
823 posts
Joined April 2014
Shiyzo
amazing
Ravener
15 posts
Joined June 2022
Ravener
damn that website though, as a dev myself, let me know if I can help
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mapping
39 posts
Joined July 2022
mapping
interesting
VectorMS
200 posts
Joined December 2017
VectorMS
wow, Bro that's incredible!!! Thank you!
AshleyMadison
6 posts
Joined May 2015
AshleyMadison
Doing the Lord's work. Appreciated
oatmilk
8 posts
Joined March 2020
oatmilk
wow
Aranel
470 posts
Joined January 2017
Aranel
revolutionizing timing wp
Waifu
27 posts
Joined May 2020
Waifu
Looks pretty helpful, especially for longer songs with inconsistent beat
Florescence
172 posts
Joined May 2015
Florescence
!
Mahlzeit
46 posts
Joined February 2018
Mahlzeit
sick
a bat
92 posts
Joined December 2018
a bat
lovely
snomi
Beatmap Nominator
143 posts
Joined May 2019
snomi
this is awesome but i would love to see some waveform highpass/lowpass filter options as well as some built in waveform delay to adjust for the 25 ms (exact) delay that osu! has on timing vs. the waveform
-infinite-
207 posts
Joined October 2018
-infinite-
I'm not a person doing complex timings but nevertheless tried this a bit. I think it could be beneficial to add spectrogram display. In some music the sounds barely correlate with the appearance of the waveform, but are extremely obvious in the spectrogram (distinct vertical lines).

also the program don't seem to support high DPI scaling so the texts are extremely small on my monitor
floppaosu
86 posts
Joined March 2020
floppaosu

-infinite- wrote:

I'm not a person doing complex timings but nevertheless tried this a bit. I think it could be beneficial to add spectrogram display. In some music the sounds barely correlate with the appearance of the waveform, but are extremely obvious in the spectrogram (distinct vertical lines).

also the program don't seem to support high DPI scaling so the texts are extremely small on my monitor
+1 to this, that's my exact takeaway after trying to time a complex song.

regardless, holy crap this is revolutionary, great job and can't wait for full release!!!
McEndu
1,246 posts
Joined March 2019
McEndu
bump
CLICKMACHINE
109 posts
Joined March 2023
CLICKMACHINE
I'm crying ToT

I guess it's a no go for low end pc
Reset_676
10 posts
Joined January 2016
Reset_676
round to nearest 0.1 bpm + alt wheel on not first timing point === instant crash

but pretty cool tool nonetheless


However, I don't understand how to set it up to have multiple timing points in single measure like in the demonstration. In the first min of the vid we see how its normally and then in demonstration is set to multiple timing points.

Also really needs option to snap the timing points, as if I'm clicking near the previous bpm it should just snap itself to the same bpm instead of having to micro adjust every new point.
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kongehund
229 posts
Joined May 2012
Topic Starter
kongehund

Reset_676 wrote:

round to nearest 0.1 bpm + alt wheel on not first timing point === instant crash
Will be fixed later :)

Regarding how to use it, I DM'ed you, but to anyone else reading - the YouTube video has a 40-minute tutorial linked in description.
Reset_676
10 posts
Joined January 2016
Reset_676
To all the re* like me here is the link https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9buc3w


and to everyone else u just change the beat snap divisor at the top. Do not change it at the left.

Change it at the top and then proceed to timing.
TOMMASO
31 posts
Joined September 2018
TOMMASO
It doesn't open any .mp3 file
Just saved the song I wanted to time on Audacity just like you said and it worked
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