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Which kind of Monitor is good for Osu! ?

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Lightiezi
27 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
Lightiezi
Well as the title says, i would like you guys to tell me your opinions about which monitor would be fine for osu , and maybe lol. I'm going to buy one soon and i need some advices. Thank you in advance.

Ps: I don't know if this is the right place to post this thread, so sorry for this if not!
winber1
4,520 posts
Joined February 2010
winber1
you don't even need a good monitor for either of them, but in terms of buying a good monitor i have no idea which ones are good so unhelpful post is unhelpful
Watasashi
5 posts
Joined April 2013
Watasashi
Any monitor should work for osu, but if you can get one that works at 120Hz, you could actualy notice a smoother gameplay, but consider that if you really want to make use of that monitor your hole setup should be able to run at 120Hz with no problems, in this case you are gonna play lol so make sure you can run it at 120fps, if you cant then just go with any standar 60Hz monitor of your prefered size.
Dexus
982 posts
Joined July 2009
Dexus
CRT monitor with a high refresh rate capability. LCD/LED and the gpu use the CRT standard for display so you may as well get a monitor that does it right.

if you're not using it solely for osu! then get a nice 120hz monitor with a good amount of contrast.

Edit: here's a nice list http://www.blurbusters.com/faq/120hz-monitors/ I'd recommend either the Asus one or the BenQ one if you have the money.

If you really can't get a high refresh rate monitor at least get a low latency monitor.

Edit: more informative stuff http://toptengamer.hubpages.com/hub/Top-Gaming-Monitor
RaneFire
1,181 posts
Joined May 2011
RaneFire
osu!standard does not really benefit from a good monitor. I've tested with a CRT and my LCD... and the most important difference was motion blurr in games like taiko and mania where notes travel across the screen. These easily give me a headache on an LCD, but the CRT performed really well. The image quality on CRT's is absolutely terrible though. This is the reason LCD's took over.

Approach circles would be the only things really affected by a higher refresh rate monitor, but they're mostly useless to even look at half the time. So having an awesome monitor is not an issue for osu!standard. The other thing you would need to consider is the video input lag (not pixel response time).

I'm going for the Asus VG248QE soon regardless, because my eyes have become more sensitive to motion blurr lately. The BenQ XL2411T also uses the same panel. IMO if you really wanted "the best" - one of these 2 would do the trick. Other than that, you wouldn't do too bad just buying a generic monitor, if all you want it for is osu!standard. 60hz is fine for RTS/MOBA games, imo. Just don't buy an IPS panel for gaming. They have HUGE input lag. I mean huge. That's what you have to lose to get great image quality. Stick to TN if you can.
B1rd
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Joined December 2013
B1rd
I'm going to replace my old 60hz 1440x900 monitor with a BenQ 24" 1080p 144hz 1ms response time monitor soon.

Any advice though what I should do about the resolution change? Should I keep Osu! at 1440x900, would that create any cursor lag? Or should I play Osu! at 1080p, would the image quality be much better? And would such a slight sensitivty adjustment stuff up my aim for a long time?
Lach
1,118 posts
Joined November 2012
Lach

B1rd wrote:

I'm going to replace my old 60hz 1440x900 monitor with a BenQ 24" 1080p 144hz 1ms response time monitor soon.

Any advice though what I should do about the resolution change? Should I keep Osu! at 1440x900, would that create any cursor lag? Or should I play Osu! at 1080p, would the image quality be much better? And would such a slight sensitivty adjustment stuff up my aim for a long time?
I never knew anyone cared about visual quality on this game. HD elements don't make that much of a difference even in fullscreen 1080p. Just play whatever res feels comfortable, it doesn't take long to get used to the new resolution.
Mathsma
473 posts
Joined March 2013
Mathsma

B1rd wrote:

I'm going to replace my old 60hz 1440x900 monitor with a BenQ 24" 1080p 144hz 1ms response time monitor soon.

Any advice though what I should do about the resolution change? Should I keep Osu! at 1440x900, would that create any cursor lag? Or should I play Osu! at 1080p, would the image quality be much better? And would such a slight sensitivty adjustment stuff up my aim for a long time?
Play on 1440x900 windowed with aero disabled and http://puu.sh/7YYgf.png
That is if you play with mouse like your profile says.
B1rd
2,974 posts
Joined December 2013
B1rd
I'd much prefer to play fullscreen TBH, more immersive.
usa
193 posts
Joined September 2012
usa
144hz hah
prepare for eye fatigue at 2x faster pace
TakuMii
1,874 posts
Joined October 2009
TakuMii
I have a CRT monitor that I run osu! at 140Hz (or 176Hz when I'm in the mood to drop the resolution to play osu!mania), and I've found that the high refresh rate reduces eyestrain when playing Taiko or osu!mania. It does make a difference in Standard mode (the cursor is quite a bit easier to follow, making spaced patterns somewhat easier to land), although I'm not sure about how significant the benefit really is, or how it compares to a 144Hz LCD.

But anyone who says that CRTs have terrible image quality simply hasn't seen a high-end CRT monitor, which trumps over most standard LCDs in a lot of ways. They can achieve high resolutions with great clarity (mine handles 2048x1536 if I'm willing to drop down to 75Hz, but I'd rather run a lower resolution with a higher refresh rate), generally have better contrast ratios, and natively support just about any resolution you throw at it without any blurring (low resolutions, custom resolutions, etc. as long as you don't exceed the max). And since they're discontinued, you might be able to get lucky and pick one up for a very good price (I got mine for $40 a few months ago).
The only real negatives to having a good CRT is the manual initial calibration needed, as well as the footprint on your desk and your energy bill. That, and the aspect ratio, but that's not that big of a deal IMO (I play letterboxed on some games, which I can deal with since my monitor's more than big enough. There are also widescreen CRTs that exist, and while they're the cream of the crop, they're much more rare than a high end 4:3 CRT).
RaneFire
1,181 posts
Joined May 2011
RaneFire

YayMii wrote:

But anyone who says that CRTs have terrible image quality simply hasn't seen a high-end CRT monitor, which trumps over most standard LCDs in a lot of ways.
"High-end"

Sorry, but when you compare the best CRT vs the normally available LCD, there is usually going to be this sort of argument.

But from a cost-effective point of view, standard consumer level LCD's trump standard consumer level CRT's of the past. That's what I was getting at.

Then there's also the the max resolution of CRT's. With software, games and viewing material going the way they are these days, you don't really want to settle for anything less than a 1920x1080 LCD if you are going to buy anything "new." A CRT running at that resolution will experience "noise" and won't have a high refresh rate.
Kert
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Joined June 2009
Kert
Input lag on regular LCDs is just horrible. Especially if you just had a CRT monitor
120-144 hz monitors are great for this kind of stuff
If you are going to get Benq - get Z models like XL2411Z or XL2420Z e.t.c. cause they have PWM-free strobe (in short - it's better for your eyes)
Keep in mind that using lightboost with these kind of monitors you get almost no motion blur BUT input lag becomes similar to usual LCDs.
Lightboost is awesome for shooters though
TakuMii
1,874 posts
Joined October 2009
TakuMii
What I was getting at is that a high end CRT does go for pretty cheap nowadays (that is, if you can find one), so it could be potentially a more cost-effective option. But as I said, the max resolution of a CRT can exceed 1920x1080 (and I can still get 1920x1200@90Hz on mine and it looks just fine), so that point is somewhat irrelevant.
Also, CRTs still have a few advantages over high-end LCDs, mainly (especially) in latency. And unlike LCDs, CRTs don't compromise between color accuracy and motion clarity/low-latency (you either get one or the other on a high-end LCD, although this has been improving in the past while or so).
That isn't to say that CRT is the best option though. They do have a purpose, but they're not for everyone.
WolfCoder
182 posts
Joined June 2009
WolfCoder
Almost all the points people made in here about CRTs being better than LCDs are not true anymore (when they used to be). The only thing a CRT still wins on is being able to scale graphics at non-integral factors (which is something people want when playing emulators, for example). Otherwise, you can get a rapid LCD easily. I suppose if you spent 4 minutes picking out an LCD from Wal-Mart and comparing it to your well made CRT you've kept around for decades, you'll get the confirmation bias you were looking for.

(Ironically, they had a demo set up with a scrolling picture on several high frame rate LCD models to show you the difference in the higher refresh rate screens there at Wal-Mart around where I live)

Even when LCDs were the dull slow things back when they were new, I really don't miss that high screeching noise (they all do that, the higher end ones are worse), I don't miss the burning eyes, the excessive size and weight, and fiddling with the picture knobs for hours never being satisfied.
RaneFire
1,181 posts
Joined May 2011
RaneFire

WolfCoder wrote:

I really don't miss that high screeching noise (they all do that, the higher end ones are worse), I don't miss the burning eyes, the excessive size and weight, and fiddling with the picture knobs for hours never being satisfied.
These are usually signs of a dying CRT.

Unfortunately they don't last forever. That's the one thing working against us in picking up an old CRT. My current one has a screeching noise, the capacitors are dying.

The rest of what you said is true. The fact people are still arguing over input lag just baffles me. It's only a problem on 8bit panels, IPS panels etc. A typical TN panel will be just fine. I couldn't tell more than 10ms input lag between my CRT and my 2006 LCD (lasting 8 years is pretty good).
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Vuelo Eluko
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Joined October 2013
Vuelo Eluko
my LCD monitor has a high pitched whine too, it's had it for 3 years but it's settled down recently or maybe i just cant notice it as much even if i try anymore.
RaneFire
1,181 posts
Joined May 2011
RaneFire

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

my LCD monitor has a high pitched whine too, it's had it for 3 years but it's settled down recently or maybe i just cant notice it as much even if i try anymore.
Oh, LCD? My bad.

But mine is 8 years old and is not screeching at all. In fact it works just fine and I plan on using it as a second monitor.
Vuelo Eluko
5,484 posts
Joined October 2013
Vuelo Eluko

RaneFire wrote:

Bassist Vinyl wrote:

my LCD monitor has a high pitched whine too, it's had it for 3 years but it's settled down recently or maybe i just cant notice it as much even if i try anymore.
Oh, LCD? My bad.

But mine is 8 years old and is not screeching at all. In fact it works just fine and I plan on using it as a second monitor.
eh my case isnt related to the other guys CRT just mentioned it because why not
TakuMii
1,874 posts
Joined October 2009
TakuMii
The high-pitched noise on a CRT isn't abnormal; it is not a sign of impending doom unless it's associated with other symptoms. The thing is, it really depends on a lot of variables (the components within the monitor, the refresh rate, the acoustics in the room, the user's hearing range and/or tolerance for high-pitched noises, etc). It's not a dealbreaker IMO, as I find it barely noticeable, not to mention I'm using headphones most of the time.
As for the burning eyes: I can't say that I've ever had that problem with mine. But it might be the refresh rates I'm running it at. I have experienced all sorts of eyestrain from LCDs though, but that's a completely different story entirely (it probably has more to do with the surrounding environment than the type of monitor anyways).
But what I said earlier still holds true. CRTs (especially the higher-end ones) may be a viable choice, but they're not for everyone.

To be completely honest, the main reason I got mine was the price ($40 for a high refresh-rate/high-resolution monitor, regardless of the type, is a pretty sweet deal. Especially when the seller insisted that it was barely used).
Zup
16 posts
Joined December 2013
Zup

Mathsma wrote:

B1rd wrote:

I'm going to replace my old 60hz 1440x900 monitor with a BenQ 24" 1080p 144hz 1ms response time monitor soon.

Play on 1440x900 windowed with aero disabled and http://puu.sh/7YYgf.png
That is if you play with mouse like your profile says.
Super late reply, but how do you get to this screen?
deletemyaccount
730 posts
Joined May 2013
deletemyaccount

Zup wrote:

Super late reply, but how do you get to this screen?
Right click your osu!.exe and click on 'properties'
Vuelo Eluko
5,484 posts
Joined October 2013
Vuelo Eluko

xxjesus1412fanx wrote:

my LCD monitor has a high pitched whine too, it's had it for 3 years but it's settled down recently or maybe i just cant notice it as much even if i try anymore.
this monitor broke a year ago thankfully
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