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Sleep/Sleepless Mafia --- (0/9 players)

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Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Chamelo

SLEEP/SLEEPLESS MAFIA!



This is my own generated mafia setup. See gameplay mechanic below.

Gameplay Mechanic
  1. The setup is based from normal setup, so, no misleading roles such as Miller or Jester.
  2. 9-15 players. That's mean the game can enter confirmation phase once there are at least 9 players in this game. Signup close after certain amount of players confirm.
  3. The game divided into 2 parts; the day and the night.
  4. Normal lynch rule, both day and night.
The Day
  1. The day is 1 week long.
  2. The usual vote/lynch rules and stuff.
  3. During the day, player can send me a PM to choose whether they want to sleep at night or not. A choice can be change unlimited time. (or until the night came)
  4. If you don't send me a choice. You'll sleep at night.
The Night
  1. The night is 2 days long.
  2. If player choose to sleep, they go to sleep and can't vote at night.
  3. If player choose to stay awake, they can vote at night.
  4. Only awake player can be lynched, you can't vote sleeping player.
  5. Common vote/lynch mechanic.
  6. If there's 2 awake people, there'll be no lynch and the normal night duration.
  7. Night lynch ends night early.
  8. Mafia and PR must be awake to perform their skill. (And nightkill too.)
  9. You can't stay awake 3 nights in a row. And you can't sleep 3 nights in a row either.
Players:
Alive

Death

Event

FYI: This is my first time hosting game. And I never use this setup before. Expected some unbalance or mistake. : P
Last edited by Chamelo , edited 4 times in total.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Chamelo
General Rules. Shamelessly copies from this thread.

Open
General

1. Unless otherwise stated in your Role PM, each mafia game takes place in the game's thread only - do not discuss it anywhere else. Doing so will get you modkilled or immediately replaced, depending on the severity of the offence. (This is important for mafia games.)

2. Do not quote any PM, part or whole, you receive from the Mod. This includes fake or erroneous quoting. Breaking this rule will get you modkilled. However, you may claim any role you please, and explain the powers in any way you please.

3. If you believe the mod has made an error, send him a PM. Please do not post about such things in the thread. If you have anything else you need the mod to read or address, post something like this - "Mod: You're the best."

4. A player who is modkilled will lose the game, regardless of whether their team mates eventually win.

Voting, Lynching and Deaths

5. Any voting action must be bolded - Vote: Lybydose, etc.

6. You may vote to end the day without a lynch by voting No Lynch.

7. A lynch occurs when a player has an absolute majority of votes on them.

8. At deadline, if none of any players reach majority votes, there'll be no lynch.

9. Once a lynch occurs the Day is considered to be over. Please, please, PLEASE do not post again until the next Day begins, especially if you are the player who was just lynched. (Talking beforehand is acceptable as long as the lynch scene has not been posted yet.)

10. On death, a player's role will be revealed.

11. A modkill will end the Day.

12. Once a player is dead, they cannot contribute any more to the game. They are not to post anything. (A simple Bah! or Go Town! is fine)

Activity

13. Please treat each game as a commitment.

14. Day length is determined by the host.

15. If a player has not posted in 24 hours, the host will prod them if requested to do so. That is, it's up to you to ask the host to prod a certain player.

16. Prods must be responded to in thread.

17. A player who doesn't respond to their prod will be replaced or modkilled.

18. If you are going to be unable to post for over 24 hours, leave a note in thread. As long as the mod is personally given notice, you will not be prodded.

Conduct

19. Be courteous and respectful to your fellow players.

20. Blatantly antisocial and offensive behaviour or personal attacks will be grounds for replacement at the host's discretion.

21. Finally, Mafia is for fun, so enjoy yourself.

22. If you've noticed something missing, feel free to ask the host about it.

23. The host reserves the right to change any rule during the game.

Rules originally written by LadySuburu and slightly revised for general use.

If I missed anything please tell me. ;w;
Sephibro
315 posts
Joined November 2012
Sephibro
what's the point of this mechanic, if i can ask?
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue
if i was town in this set up, i would just tell every towny to fucking forget prs and nightvoting and go to sleep every night. if mafia wants to nightkill, then they have to sack their players to do so aka they can't nightkill.

this set up has major flaws. enabling mafia nightkills even when going to sleep should fix this.
Sephibro
315 posts
Joined November 2012
Sephibro
i agree this is pretty silly as it is now
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Simply allowing mafia to make kills even while asleep does not actually fix the problem. The two possibilities I can see from that are:

a. Everyone just sleeps every night and the mechanic just doesn't get used at all.
b. The vote mechanic results in no lynches since it's more likely that mafia will be asleep than awake. Meanwhile they just kill among the people that are awake since they're more likely to be PRs than townies. The way to avoid this is... to not use your PRs.

The suggestion I would propose instead is the following: Force people to be awake at least every other night. If they sleep one night, they have to be awake the next one.

This solves the first problem above and gives the PRs freedom to use their abilities since they can blend in with the regular townies better. It also allows mafia to kill without being implicated for it outside of very strategic town play.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Chamelo
Sleeping mafia can't nightkill.

Or did I just put something wrong up there? O.o
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
You didn't. The mechanic itself was flawed and we're trying to help fix it.
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue
look, a game with only vanilla roles would be balanced to towns favour if it wasn't for maf's nightkill.

your set up basically forces town and thus scum to play this like a complete vanilla mafia for optimal town win chances. because unlike a normal complete vanilla set up, mafia can't nightkill.
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Chamelo
um... let me take a look.

How about awake 2 : 1 sleep?
Sephibro
315 posts
Joined November 2012
Sephibro

Sephibro wrote:

what's the point of this mechanic, if i can ask?
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Chamelo
It's like a nightless one. But player can choose to play or not to play at night.
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
3,785 posts
Joined June 2009
NoHitter
Just make it such that people can't stay awake for longer than X nights in a row (maybe 2?)
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Chamelo
Yeah.

(I forgot to edit. ;w;)
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Chamelo
I think there's no point to keep it open anymore.
Sephibro
315 posts
Joined November 2012
Sephibro
maybe there could be a point in changing the mechanics you thought of for this game

tell me exactly and with details what you aimed to achieve with the mechanics you chose and why you chose them, i'll try to help you
Lincolm
258 posts
Joined November 2011
Lincolm
I think I ever seen almost familiar open-mechanic, without PR and night-kill, where mafias choose 3 lynchee (is that what we call? I forget) at odd or even day, i don't remember, which funny and interesting mechanic.

But to be honest, I think this mechanic is town-sided? I mean, they can control who to sleep or not to sleep. I already read other problems, but I think this is the major problem though...
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
3,500 posts
Joined February 2012
DakeDekaane
How about disable this choose about sleeping/not sleeping, and add to some of them a "Insomnia" modifier to force them to no sleep, to be a bit more fair for both town and scum so there's still a mixed pool in Night Phase. Maybe some 1-shot Day PRs could work here too.
Nyquill
osu! Alumni
1,781 posts
Joined February 2011
Nyquill
omg lincolm please play more ;_;
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Is the setup being discussed in private?
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Chamelo

CalignoBot wrote:

Is the setup being discussed in private?
No, it doesn't.

I'll post the mechanic detail as I got a chance to stay long.
And, please tell Blue Yoshi to start his game, mine maybe takes a long time before it's ready to play.
Sorry. ;w;
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Understood. I can put it back in the place it was in the mod queue if you wish.
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