Saitou Chiwa - Staple Stable · forum

La Valse

Joined February 2009

Topic Starter

La Valse 2009-10-18T09:11:02+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2009년 10월 27일 화요일 at 오후 11:43:09

Artist: Saitou Chiwa
Title: Staple Stable
Source: Bakemonogatari
Tags: Anime
BPM: 129
Filesize: 4822kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:

Easy (3.13 stars, 103 notes)
Hard (4.65 stars, 317 notes)
Insane (4.97 stars, 432 notes)

Download: Saitou Chiwa - Staple Stable
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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done

10/20 BG change (re download plz)

(10/26 mp3 change (delete and re download plz)) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Thanks star ~
Azure_Kyte, satosid, lRasl, ykcarrot, Cookiezi, korealien
Armin, Yes, heartnetkung, Lizbeth, askerlate47, Hujibayasi Kyou
kioukiou, MoonFragrance, Tanmak, bmin11, shulin, dksslqj
Shinxyn, minyeob, osuplayer111, sonnyc, Card N'FoRcE
al2e10, Doomsday93, youngdow, Gothic, Zekira, gdeath
orioncomet, blissfulyoshi, kino77
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Thanks mod ~
Azure_Kyte, ykcarrot, happy30, Armin, Yes, heartnetkung, Lizbeth
MoonFragrance, Tanmak, bmin11(irc), Shulin, dksslqj, Shinxyn
minyeob, osuplayer111, Card N'FoRcE, al2e10, Doomsday93
Zekira, gdeath, blissfulyoshi, kino77

Last edited by La Valse 2009-10-27T14:42:13+00:00, edited 53 times in total.

Azure_Kite

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Azure_Kite 2009-10-19T09:47:00+00:00

Here's my mod

Blue = Suggestion Red = Check this

[Easy]
I'd probably lower the hitsound volume to 70% for the beginning section, and 85% for the kiai part
00:36:05 (2) - I'd make this a finish instead of a whistle.
No problems found

[Normal]
The same hitsound audio suggestions for Easy should be implemented in Normal too (if you chose to, that is)
also, the next timing sections should follow the same pattern (70% at 01:43:379, 80% at 02:12:79)
00:16:40 (2) - This sounds better moved forward 1/4 beat, and shortened 1/4 beat
00:18:26 (2) - ^
00:21:63 (1) - Remove the reverse and extend 1/4 beat?
00:25:35 (1) - ^
No problems found

[Hard+]
Same audio suggestions for Normal here.
No problems found

I love the song, and your beatmap is error free. Starred

dkey

1,276 posts

Joined June 2009

dkey 2009-10-19T12:42:52+00:00

star~

Ra-s

1,289 posts

Joined May 2009

Ra-s 2009-10-19T13:03:04+00:00

모딩하고 싶어도 문제점 못찾는..

스타나 주고 가죠 뭐..

쿠도수는 줄 수 있지만 갤럭시를 속였으므로 안줌 원래 줄려 했는데

Sure

4,220 posts

Joined February 2009

Sure 2009-10-19T14:31:09+00:00

[공통]
offset 15,600 으로 설정해주세요.
F6 눌러서 나오는 창에서 오프셋 바꾸면 resnap to new timing 체크하고 OK 눌러야 합니다.

오프셋도 중요하지만 mp3가 너무 큽니다.
비트레이트가 320kbps 던데, 음질과 용량을 타협볼 수 있는 값은 192kbps니까 192로 재인코딩하세요.
재인코딩할때 특별한 옵션을 주지 않는다면 오프셋이나 bpm은 절대 바뀌지 않아요.

그리고 각각의 난이도 밸런스를 다시 잡으셔야겠네요.

[Easy]
슬라이더 속도라든지 스페이싱을 보니까 이지치고는 조금 어렵네요.
아마 다른 사람들로 부터 수정요청이 들어올지 몰라요.
대응책 몇 가지 생각해놓는게 좋을것 같네요.
1. 노트 크기를 더 키운다든지
2. 난이도 이름을 바꾼다든지
하면 귀찮게 슬라이더나 스페이싱 수정 같은건 안해도 되니까요.

[Normal]
overall difficulty 7 이면 Hard 입니다.
난이도 이름을 Normal로 유지하려면 overall 값을 5로 내리세요.

간격 오류는 못찾겠네요. 대신 노트배치(note's position)를 깐깐(nazi)하게 해볼까요.
디스턴스 스냅이 제대로 들어가도 슬라이더 끝이랑 그리드 스냅이 제대로 맞물리지 않으면
노트끼리 간격이 잘 안맞아서 살짝 겹쳐지는 경우가 있어요. 닿을랑말랑 하는건 괜찮은데 겹쳐진건 조금 에러..
만약 이게 인세인이었으면 제가 이런거 지적 안합니다. ^^;

00:26:98 (6) - 5번 슬라이더 끝이랑 너무 가깝죠? 한 칸만 오른쪽으로 옮기세요.
00:31:63 (3) - 역시 한 칸 더 띄우고 다음 노트들 정렬
00:45:35 (6) - ^
00:53:96 (2) - ^
01:02:79 (2) - ^
01:07:21 (5) - ^
01:18:61 (1) - ^
01:20:47 (1) - ^
01:49:30 (1) - ^
01:54:19 (1) - ^
02:03:26 (5) - ^
02:05:12 (5) - ^
02:16:51 (4) - ^
02:32:10 (4) - ^
02:34:42 (3) - ^
02:42:33 (1) - ^
02:53:49 (5) - ^

[Hard+]
인세인 안만들꺼죠? 그럼 이걸 Insane으로 바꾸세요.

이거는 특별히 볼게 없어서 히트사운드 제안합니다. 코러스 쪽에 피니시 어울리는 부분이 꽤 있네요.

00:49:07 (1) - 피니시도 같이 넣어주세요.
01:05:82 (3) - 슬라이더 시작에 ^
01:07:68 (1,2,3,4) - 1,4번에 ^
01:09:54 (9) - ^
01:13:26 (3) - 슬라이더 시작에 ^
01:14:89 (1,2,3,4,5) - 2,5번에 ^
01:26:75 - 여기에 피니시 서클 추가
02:25:82 (1,2,3,4) - 이거는 모양에 규칙성이 있는데
02:23:96 (1,2,3,4) - 앞에거는 규칙성이 없네요.
02:33:26 (4) - 피니시도 같이 넣어주세요.
02:35:12 (1,2,3,4) - 1,4번에 ^
02:36:98 (9) - ^
02:40:70 (4) - ^
02:42:56 (1,2,3,4) - 1,4번에 ^

잘 만드셨네요. 별 드립니다~!
Well done. Star!

happy30

Featured Artist

2,064 posts

Joined August 2008

happy30 2009-10-19T23:43:18+00:00

This is the last osu!map I will ever mod...
Let's see..

offset 16.060

[Easy]

wow, you reached out of ideas very fast... it's extremely squary.
I don't feel like playing a map when I play this...
An automatic map make could've made it better.

[Normal]

better, but it still looks dead.

[Hard+]

This is actually pretty fun to play, much better than you other diffs.
Found nothing wrong here ^^

chocomint

Former osu! Champion: OWC#3

202 posts

Joined June 2009

chocomint 2009-10-20T11:04:08+00:00

잘 만들었네요 star~

korealien

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Joined July 2009

korealien 2009-10-20T11:37:52+00:00

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Armin

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Armin 2009-10-21T14:55:45+00:00

The BG is very ugly, please use this:

http://up.ppy.sh/files/34g7tyq.jpg

[Easy]

00:26:995 Finish
00:41:646 Finish at the start
00:43:506 Maybe, add a finish
00:56:530 Add also a finish here
00:58:390 Add also a whistle here
01:00:483 Finish

[Normal]

00:27:227 Finish
00:29:553 Finish
01:00:251 whistle
01:02:809 whistle at the start
01:03:739 add a whistle also in the start
01:09:088 (1,3,1,3) Add whistles in the start
01:20:716 add a whistle in the start
01:21:413 ^
02:29:786 whistle in the end
02:31:181 ^
02:33:739 ^
02:37:693 whistle at the start
02:53:739 ^ + finish
02:54:669 (2,6) whistles

[Hard]

01:06:762 Whistle at the start
01:10:251 ^
01:26:297 Finish

+star.Nice map

Yes_old

525 posts

Joined May 2009

Yes_old 2009-10-21T19:56:50+00:00

i dont think the bg is ugly ;-;

hard
00:48:85 (4) - move right to allign with 1
01:02:34 (1) - you should start kiai here instead
02:29:78 (1) - ^
02:10:91 (3) - move down a little so it alligns with 1
02:43:27 (4) - move right

normal
all good except same thing with kiai time.

easy
change kiai again!

La Valse

501 posts

Joined February 2009

Topic Starter

La Valse 2009-10-22T09:02:02+00:00

[quote="Yes"]i dont think the bg is ugly ;-;

today change ^^

heartnetkung

54 posts

Joined March 2009

heartnetkung 2009-10-22T14:04:47+00:00

The bg is cute.
After a several play on each diff, everything looks fine and cool.

Only one thing i would like to suggestion (which is based on my personal taste only).
The hit sound of normal and easy in too soft.
I think the sound that is lower in tempo should be louder.

Overall is cool. Go Go bakemonogatari !!

Lizbeth

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Lizbeth 2009-10-22T19:51:46+00:00

Hard+
I really like it... very fun map n_n
only a few suggestion
00:59:08 - start spinner here
00:32:11 to 00:32:34 - slider then add note at 00:32:34, just to follow the rhythm like you did in the entire map in this parts.

Normal & Easy
no problems

nice map

shooting star =P

askerlate47

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Joined September 2009

askerlate47 2009-10-23T10:43:46+00:00

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Hujibayasi Kyou

48 posts

Joined August 2009

Hujibayasi Kyou 2009-10-23T12:35:34+00:00

star

I really like it... very fun map

kioukiou

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Joined June 2008

kioukiou 2009-10-24T04:34:03+00:00

No problem for me.

star. o_o

MoonFragrance

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Joined April 2009

MoonFragrance 2009-10-24T14:05:58+00:00

[Overall]
00:45:832 이 부분은 딱히 노래에서 중요한 클라이막스가 아닙니다.
기승전결 중에 기에 해당하겠네요.
첫번째 키아이와 프리뷰 포인트를 01:02:11로 설정해주세요.

[Easy]
이지치고 약간 빠르네요.
Slider Verioty - 1.20, Distance Spacing - 0.8x을 추천합니다.

나머진 딱히 지적할 부분은 없네요.

[Normal]
두번째 키아이를
02:29:55에 설정해주세요. 여기도 딱히 지적할 부분은 없군요.

[Hard]
딱 훗카님 맵에서 보이는 결점이 그대로 보이네요.
키아이와 점프의 과용으로 맵이 겉도는 느낌.
키아이는 위에서 말한것처럼 수정해주세요.

00:49:08 (1) - 00:48:15 (1,2,3,4)의 점프들과 박자는 같은데 간격이 다르네요. 수정해주세요
00:58:39 (1) - 이것도 마찬가지 입니다. 박자는 똑같은데 간격이 다르면 헷갈립니다. 00:57:92 (1,2)와 같이 점프로 만드시거나 아니면 저 둘을 수정해주세요.
01:56:06 (1) - 위와 동일
02:51:87 (8) - 이 점프는 재밌기보다는 짜증나네요.

여튼 괜찮네요. Good. Star.

Tanmak

896 posts

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Tanmak 2009-10-25T03:36:50+00:00

[Eazy]
채보만 보면 문제는 없는데..
계속해서 4박자 정박만 나오니 플레이하는 데 재미가 없어 보이네요. Eazy에 알맞게 약간의 엇박이 첨가되었으면 좋을 듯.

[Normal]
이건 딱히 문제점을 찾지는 못하겠네요.

[Hard+]
00:22:576 (1) 굳이 New combo를 안해도 될 것 같네요.
00:26:530 (1) ^
00:47:460 (1) ^
01:08:623 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) 보기 좋게 배열을...

스타 드리겠습니다. ☆

bmin11

5,438 posts

Joined October 2008

bmin11 2009-10-25T04:42:07+00:00

Killed some jumps and helped on hitsounds via irc
Star for a nice Hard+ (still argueing to be named [Insane])

Shulin

1,189 posts

Joined August 2009

Shulin 2009-10-25T04:44:46+00:00

Nice maps, these are all suggestions use what you want:

General

- Add source and tags

Suggested tags: Bakemonogatari.

- Try changing the colors of the hit circles, at the moment you use default

[Easy]: - Nice difficulty

Normal:

02:27:69 (3) - Move down one for symmetry

Hard +:

I actually think this should just be named Hard, I dont think it's hard enough for an insane.

Perfect.

Here is a well deserved star

bmin11

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Joined October 2008

bmin11 2009-10-25T04:51:41+00:00

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Nakagawa-Kanon

Featured Artist

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Joined March 2009

Nakagawa-Kanon 2009-10-25T05:12:28+00:00

[Easy]

지적할것이 있다면..디스텐스 스냅.. 1.0 이라뇨..
그것 빼고는 이상 없어요 fine with me

[Hard]

02:29:786 (1):spin 뒤에 바로 노트배치하면 좀 힘들꺼라 생각합니다..음.. 알아세 하세요

[Hard+]

01:08:623 (1)~(9): 소리를 작세해서 점점크게하면 효과가 좋을듯

02:36:065 (1)~(9): 동일

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뭐 이정도 제가말한건 그냥 말한것일뿐 안고쳐도 돼요

hutka 잘만드네요..

star~

Shinxyn

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Shinxyn 2009-10-25T06:03:56+00:00

bg is kinda fuzzy...
And yea, please lower normal hitsounds by one more tick Dx

Easy-Clean and solid easy~

Normal- Again, very solid map.
Just slight nazi

SPOILER

00:26:29 (4,5) - I don't like how these whistles come out of nowhere and aren't followed by any pace
00:46:29 (3) - the whistled pace can start here (add whistle?)
01:06:76 (4) - felt like there was a gap in hitsounds, add whistle to start of this slider?
01:25:36 (3) - remove this lone whistle please

Hard+ it is kinda between Hard and Insane (though opinions clash), though I don't think you need that "+"
Unlike the other two diffs, this one's whistles need a bit of work... since you followed vocal

SPOILER

I'm just ganna guess the pace you were going with this... so feel free to ignore me
00:31:87 (5) - whistle
00:33:73 (4) - whistle
00:35:60 (5) - whistle
00:37:69 (1) - finish
00:52:80 - finish instead of whistle, and remove all whistles before the spinner (since you don't have notes to keep the pace)
01:04:66 (4) - whistle at start of slider!
01:09:08 (5) - whistle?
01:18:85 (2) - whistle on whole slider?
01:54:20 (5) - remove whistle
02:36:53 (5) - whistle instead of finish?
02:46:29 (2) - whistle on whole slider?
the whistles kinda stop randomly...

The jumps were quite fun~

minyeob

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minyeob 2009-10-25T11:19:08+00:00

최대한 제안하는 쪽으로 가겠습니다. 특별한 문제점은 없습니다 ㅇㅇ

[Easy]
문프라님 말에 동의합니다. BAT로써 0.8x 사용을 권장합니다.
그리고 탄막님 말씀대로 가끔씩은 1/2 박자 간격 노트사용도 쓰면 좋을 것 같습니다.

[Hard]
02:27:69 (5) - 점프 사용 권장합니다.
02:39:55 (6) - 이 노트 후에 왠지 뭔가 이상한 느낌이 든다는? 유턴 1번 하는걸 추천.

Star.

Andrea

Beatmap Nominator

16,650 posts

Joined August 2008

Andrea 2009-10-25T11:52:06+00:00

Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions, you don't have to fix, your choice.
Orange: You don't have to fix too, but is better if you do it.
Red: You have to fix this for sure!

Starts Suggestions:

- Cut the mp3 if you can.

[Easy]

00:29:08 (1) - A note after the spinner is too hard for an easy difficulty.
00:57:92 (4) - New combo.
01:02:57 (1) - Like 00:29:08

[Normal]

Fine.

[Hard]

01:58:39 (1) - Too close from (4).
02:51:87 (8) - New combo.

Sonnyc

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Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2009-10-25T12:04:55+00:00

I like that forest(?) bg.
no problem I think, and a good map

A little suggestion
조언
이지 결정적 부분에 연타를 넣어보세요
이지라고 그렇게 간단히 하니까 살짝 밋밋
(+)we talked about normal difficulty in #korean

Card N'FoRcE

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4,058 posts

Here since the beginning

Card N'FoRcE 2009-10-25T14:13:25+00:00

- Easy:

.Opinions:
A bit boring, imho, 95% of beats are 1/1 >.<
.Suggestions:
00:39:78 (1) - how about making this like 00:41:64 (3) but flipped?

- Normal:

.Opinions:
This difficulty is not "Normal", it's an "Hard". Seriously, i suggest to change diff's name.
Other than that, great ^^

- Hard:

.Opinions:
As above, this should be "Insane"
.Suggestions:
00:38:62 (1) - remove New Combo here?
01:26:76 (1) - ^ , then add it in 01:26:99 (2)

Really good map, but i really hope you'll change difficulties names.

Star'd ^^

al2e10

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Joined August 2008

al2e10 2009-10-25T23:51:19+00:00

Mod by AL2e10's queue

[Hard]
Fine ^^

[Normal]
Good ~

[Easy]
Good also ~

[All]
Can you make a timing seation for 00:15:599 - 00:30:483
And the sound can be a bit low ^^
(that should be better)

And I think you can change [Hard] to [Insane] & change [Normal] to [Hard]
Because [Normal] is too hard for the player ~

And STAR !!

Doomsday

Featured Artist

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Doomsday 2009-10-26T00:46:12+00:00

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Sure

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Joined February 2009

Sure 2009-10-26T12:23:07+00:00

I cutted this map's MP3 file and re-encoded.
Rechecked offset in #korean.

La Valse

501 posts

Joined February 2009

Topic Starter

La Valse 2009-10-26T12:24:07+00:00

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

youngdow

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Joined May 2009

youngdow 2009-10-26T12:28:27+00:00

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Gothic_old

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Joined June 2009

Gothic_old 2009-10-26T12:31:17+00:00

star

mokomoko_old

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Joined September 2009

mokomoko_old 2009-10-26T12:33:01+00:00

말이 필요없음

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

Zekira

9,233 posts

Joined September 2008

Zekira 2009-10-26T13:37:22+00:00

You may want to double check your offset again. Because I got this:

Offset: 15,633. It's -20 from the current, (which is the border of the deathline in my queue

) but since it's so large I would like to hear your opinion on this too. (It really sounds better at 15,633 for me...)

Other than that, nothing else for now.

gdeath

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Joined May 2009

gdeath 2009-10-26T14:17:39+00:00

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

orioncomet

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orioncomet 2009-10-26T14:22:50+00:00

>____________</*

blissfulyoshi

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blissfulyoshi 2009-10-26T23:48:35+00:00

Sadly you still have 2 .osb files. Please remove the unneeded one.

Easy: I did not under stand how you add new combos to this map, but besides that, the map is fine.

Hard:

SPOILER

Combo mod:
01:15:86 (1) - remove new combo since you seem to only add new combos for new lines of lyrics
02:15:63 (1) - since you did not have this new combo in similar places in the next few combos

Timing section mod:
02:54:47 - move back a quarter note

Insane: You might want to move the timing sections that are directly on top of a note a quarter note note back if there are not notes a quarter before it, but besides that, this map is fine.

Nice map. Star.

kino77

909 posts

Joined March 2009

kino77 2009-10-27T05:19:02+00:00

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

minyeob

osu! Alumni

2,540 posts

Joined May 2008

minyeob 2009-10-27T08:23:19+00:00

오쓰 파일 들어가서
Bakemonogatari OP Single - staple stable (hutka).osb 지워주세요
잠수중이셔서 댓글로 올림 ㅇㅇ

no kudosu plz

EDIT: Bubbled.

다음에는 40~50SP ㅋㅋ
Next time I suggest 40~50sp lol

panic_on

16 posts

Joined September 2009

panic_on 2009-10-27T09:43:38+00:00

Good star~~

Pasonia

osu! Alumni

1,199 posts

Joined October 2008

Pasonia 2009-10-27T15:20:45+00:00

What a BLOODY well-done map! AIMod picks on nothing, yet it plays so nicely and freshly. This is by far one of the more inspiring maps I've seen in quite a while!

peppy

19,315 posts

Here since the beginning

peppy 2009-10-27T16:50:17+00:00

Can't help but question why the cool anime OP wasn't included as a video for this

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Pasonia

osu! Alumni

1,199 posts

Joined October 2008

Pasonia 2009-10-27T17:09:58+00:00

Nice timing for that peppy =.= I think this is on the onus of the mapper to do that so yea.

If YOU are so nice, you may want to provide the link to any available OP and temporarily unrank it, but that means the responsibility of re-ranking falls back to you. It's your call.

La Valse

501 posts

Joined February 2009

Topic Starter

La Valse 2009-10-28T07:44:04+00:00

sorry

but this map full version