I am trying to break 3-4 maps by getting an FC on them but I can't seem to do it, i try and try other maps but i cant even get past the halfway point, i tried spending all my free time on one map but i cant even finish it after 4 hours over 5 days, i tried doing 2 maps but its just boring and uninteresting to me.

I had tried osu 3 separate times once every year in hopes to getting some enjoyment out of it, i have spent around 24 hours each time trying maps and i cant even seem to get past the 3-4 barrier.

I even recently tried to do songs that i enjoy listening to everyday but all i get is 4+ maps i cant complete, the graveyard is no good because all of them are either too short or just terribly mapped.

Do i have to get into mapping for new people so i can even enjoy playing osu myself? Or do i need to pay people to even get maps that i like?

Everything seems so inaccessible to new players, i see forums of people asking for maps that teach skills nut all they get is "aDviSe" that extends to "I'm sorry but if you put enough time into it you'll enjoy it" or "take your time and you'll get good enough" or even "just get to 4 and then you'll be able to get access to all the maps"

Its unfair that the one game i want to play has such a time sink for new people, i have very little time to do things that i would actually enjoy and when i look for maps or advice they seem so unrealistic for me to achieve.

All i ask for for mappers and other players to help new people, i look at forum after forum and all the advidce i see is just better players being unhelpful or detatched from the struggles of noobs.

So after all of this, i ask, why is osu still so difficult?

the best thing to do is to play very easy maps around your level because you will learn more if you don't skip any steps

directly playing high stars maps is not recommended MOSTLY if you are a neophyte

I'll elaborate further since you make pretty lengthy post, I respect that:

These advises are simple because there's little, if not impossible to be elaborated further.

The more bulk people tried to elaborate how beginner should play, the more harmful it is than the good.

People improve their drawing by sinking time, Learning programming at beginner level on your own is possible, learning to type on your own is also doable, learning school material on your own without a teacher is also doable, so on and so forth.


If you can't pass, let alone full combo, you are simply not capable enough for it. Reality just works that way, regardless of we like it or not. Though your cases are not as bad like straight playing 7 - 9*, I'm glad for that

Easy and Normal maps exist. It's a rank requirement because we strive for balancing the game for being fun and challenging by providing best of both world. So, go ahead and starts from step one, enjoy playing.

No, you don't have to learn mapping to learn how to play. Not every musician are also composer, so does a player.

Rethink what your definition of growth:
Every time you make a highscore, no. Even just a score, Is a improvement. Small things adds up overtime.

Grab a beatmap, press play, click circles, enjoy!

Nanofranne wrote:

I'll elaborate further since you make pretty lengthy post, I respect that:

These advises are simple because there's little, if not impossible to be elaborated further.

The more bulk people tried to elaborate how beginner should play, the more harmful it is than the good.

People improve their drawing by sinking time, Learning programming at beginner level on your own is possible, learning to type on your own is also doable, learning school material on your own without a teacher is also doable, so on and so forth.


If you can't pass, let alone full combo, you are simply not capable enough for it. Reality just works that way, regardless of we like it or not. Though your cases are not as bad like straight playing 7 - 9*, I'm glad for that

Easy and Normal maps exist. It's a rank requirement because we strive for balancing the game for being fun and challenging by providing best of both world. So, go ahead and starts from step one, enjoy playing.

No, you don't have to learn mapping to learn how to play. Not every musician are also composer, so does a player.

Rethink what your definition of growth:
Every time you make a highscore, no. Even just a score, Is a improvement. Small things adds up overtime.

Grab a beatmap, press play, click circles, enjoy!

even chatGPT couldn't explain it better

When learning osu you have to start from the basics and work your way up. Trying to play 3 and 4 star maps without taking the time to get good at 1 and 2 star maps is like trying to learn calculus without mastering basic algebra first, of course it's going to feel impossible without the foundation in place.

The bashing your head against the wall strat and making progress by slowing working your way through hard things doesn't really work in osu (unless you're TheKushVanMan) like it might work with learning other skills.

There's not really any way around playing 1 and 2 star maps if you eventually want to be good enough to play 3 and 4 star maps.

To be fair most mappers tend to not care about 1 and 2 star maps and only make them to get their mapsets into a rankable state, so a lot of them tend to be mapped in a very generic way, without much variation, making them the most boring star-ranges.

Usually this isn't a problem for new players though because the game is fresh and interesting and they just like playing their favourite anime OPs and don't really care about mapping quality, and that enjoyment allows them to play enough to play higher star ratings. Or this could just be survivorship bias, of the experiences of those who made it higher up in the rankings because they enjoyed the game, and not reflective of the experiences of the millions that quit without getting anywhere.

If you want to try and enjoy 1 and 2 star maps, I'd suggest looking for maps of music you like and playing more for the music, and maybe trying some older maps to get a larger variety of mapping styles.

You probably won't have to keep at them for long, you'll probably find yourself improving quickly and you'll be able to play 3 stars within a week or two.

Some other advice that's generally given to new players to make the game more fun is to find some friends to play with, not only does that add a social aspect to you just sitting in your room and clicking circles but a fun competitive aspect, because you can push each other to get better.

However if you still find this process unfun, maybe osu just isn't the game for you, because this is literally how it'll be at every skill level, you have to slowly work your way up instead of jumping ahead, albeit with more interesting maps.




As for the stuff on advise I agree, so many people look at the struggles of players and just say "play more" without going any deeper, because it's such easy and always applicable advise to give, and there is a general culture of "overthinking = bad, literally just play the game more and you get better lmao" in the osu community, or at least with some members of the community.

I think this is worse in regards to new players for a few reasons. First is that they generally improve so fast that they don't really need any advice, just a slap on the back saying "keep going". Second is that they generally ask super vague questions like "how do I improve" or "how do I play 3 stars" or whatever and not anything specific, and vague questions get met with generic advice because there's nothing specific to give advice on, and most people would rather go "play more" than write an essay of generic advice. And last, "play more" is legitimate advice, it is literally the thing that underpins pretty much all improvement in any form in this game, and maybe to the new player who asks "how do I get better" they haven't exactly properly internalised that they will have to play more and will need to have been given that advice at least once in their playing career to do so.

I think we'll have to forgive people being detached and dismissive of new players though, yeah it's bad but that's how people become when they get really good at anything, and it doesn't really help that osu is a competitive space comprised of mostly young people who probably aren't the most willing to sit down and give really detailed advice to questions that they've heard a million times before

bro is going band for band with these essays

UruhaRushiaaa wrote:

bro is going band for band with these essays

Yeah I gotta get in my monthly Gameplay and Rankings essay on a random thread so I can spend the next month clicking on every new thread, reading them and then not giving any advice

UruhaRushiaaa wrote:

bro is going band for band with these essays

i love yappers

why am I not able to play the game????:


Probably cause you don't play the game.

there is a big difference between "not having much time to play the game" and "not playing the game at all"


the solution is the classic, and we hate it because it is so true, PLAY MORE.


I am trying to break 3-4 maps by getting an FC on them but I can't seem to do it
-try harder to fc
i try and try other maps but i cant even get past the halfway point
-try harder to beat it
i tried spending all my free time on one map but i cant even finish it after 4 hours over 5 days
-that's an average of less than 1hr per day
i tried doing 2 maps but its just boring and uninteresting to me.
-if its boring, then don't to it dummy.

had tried osu 3 separate times once every year in hopes to getting some enjoyment out of it
-once every year?!?! how insane!!?! how does this dude not improve even though he plays osu once every year??? crazy stuff
i have spent around 24 hours each time trying maps and i cant even seem to get past the 3-4 barrier.
-I certainly dont see more than 13hrs in your play time, perhaps im just blind

I even recently tried to do songs that i enjoy listening to everyday but all i get is 4+ maps i cant complete
-play more so you can beat it
the graveyard is no good because all of them are either too short or just terribly mapped.
-true

Do i have to get into mapping for new people so i can even enjoy playing osu myself?
-I dont map, then why do I still enjoy the game??? oh right because I actually just enjoy playing the game itself
Or do i need to pay people to even get maps that i like?
-lololololololololol, its called try harder finding maps you like

Everything seems so inaccessible to new players
-true
i see forums of people asking for maps that teach skills nut all they get is "aDviSe" that extends to "I'm sorry but if you put enough time into it you'll enjoy it" or "take your time and you'll get good enough" or even "just get to 4 and then you'll be able to get access to all the maps"
-its the advice they give because its the advice that actually works 99% of the time

Its unfair that the one game i want to play has such a time sink for new people
-too bad bro, life it naturally unfair.
i have very little time to do things that i would actually enjoy and when i look for maps or advice they seem so unrealistic for me to achieve.
-playing 1-2hrs once a week is unrealistic??????

All i ask for for mappers and other players to help new people
-people do try to help, its just that people like you don't listen.
i look at forum after forum and all the advidce i see is just better players being unhelpful or detatched from the struggles of noobs.
-a better player has already gone through the difficulties of newer players, that's why we say play more. Because we ourselves do not know how we got better, it is something that is not explainable, so the simple answer is of course to play more, because it is what we did in order to get better.

So after all of this, i ask, why is osu still so difficult?
-osu! is not difficult, you literally only have to click circles and you magically improve, it is only you yourself who is making it difficult.

OmegaBlaze wrote:

I am trying to break 3-4 maps by getting an FC on them but I can't seem to do it, i try and try other maps but i cant even get past the halfway point, i tried spending all my free time on one map but i cant even finish it after 4 hours over 5 days, i tried doing 2 maps but its just boring and uninteresting to me.

I had tried osu 3 separate times once every year in hopes to getting some enjoyment out of it, i have spent around 24 hours each time trying maps and i cant even seem to get past the 3-4 barrier.

I even recently tried to do songs that i enjoy listening to everyday but all i get is 4+ maps i cant complete, the graveyard is no good because all of them are either too short or just terribly mapped.

Do i have to get into mapping for new people so i can even enjoy playing osu myself? Or do i need to pay people to even get maps that i like?

Everything seems so inaccessible to new players, i see forums of people asking for maps that teach skills nut all they get is "aDviSe" that extends to "I'm sorry but if you put enough time into it you'll enjoy it" or "take your time and you'll get good enough" or even "just get to 4 and then you'll be able to get access to all the maps"

Its unfair that the one game i want to play has such a time sink for new people, i have very little time to do things that i would actually enjoy and when i look for maps or advice they seem so unrealistic for me to achieve.

All i ask for for mappers and other players to help new people, i look at forum after forum and all the advidce i see is just better players being unhelpful or detatched from the struggles of noobs.

So after all of this, i ask, why is osu still so difficult?

Becauses you're playing goddamn 3-4* maps a a 2M 7-digit who likely has no idea how to coordinate any part of your key hand and tablet/mouse-hand to play properly.

Y'all have GOT to stop hopping directly into 3-4* maps, get completely stomped by the difficulty, and then complain about how it's too hard and unfun. It's like picking Very Hard and Iron Man Mode in a game, dying to the first few foes because you're a complete newbie, and complaining it's too difficult. You fucking did this to yourself.

Play 1* maps to start with. Learn how to play to the rhythm of the song. Improve your rhythm sense. Remember this is a rhythm game, not an aim game or whatever. Let 3* maps be your end-of-session for-funsies plays where you aren't interested in playing well, just seeing how far you'll get. And for the love of *insert deity here*,

STOP PLAYING 3-4* MAPS THAT ARE TOO HARd FOR YOU. OR 4-5*. OR 6*. OR 7*.

The primary advice anyone can give to a newbie like you is to play more (at your actual level) and try to have fun. You don't have the fundamental skills built up to play 3* maps, nor learn how to play the patterns that become more prevalent at that difficulty. You just don't. And you certainly won't get them by spamming those maps and hoping you'll just randomly come upon an epiphany. That's not how this works.

Start from the bottom. Work your way up. It'll feel long and tedious at times. I get it. But there are no shortcuts. The sooner you stop deluding yourself into thinking there are, the better off you'll be.