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manialegend123
18 posts
Joined April 2022
Topic Starter
manialegend123
i just tried playing dt maps and holy shit thats a lot of pp for a pretty mediocre performance.. (my 50pp play was def a lot harder than the DT plays)

is there anything skillwise good about using DT? the way i see it, its just to farm pp and doesn't really help with actually improving at the game, but i could be wrong since there are a lot of people who use DT regularly
UPR
722 posts
Joined October 2018
UPR
I use DT to practice for tourneys, cause DT has a lot of use as a skill pusher for most, and for others to get freaky with it and set cool scores for themselves. I don't like it that much even with the amount I use it, however its not bad for the most part, just takes some actual practice to make it a non-farmable Mod (btw farming with DT is subjective nowadays since its such a prominent thing so just assume you actually have the skill for that level of it)
Nanofranne
692 posts
Joined May 2018
Nanofranne
DT helps developing your raw power, basically your mechanical limits.

You're forced to tap faster, read faster, aim faster, with certain degree of timing precision. On paper, you can theoritically put it on everything. Tech, alt, you name it. But on the field, DT is often associated with just farming.

As someone lacking in power, DT mainly helps hand in hand with getting my grip on HR. It's more intuitive to put 3* with DT and learn higher map AR and OD with it than straight HR early on with prior NM only player.

DT players are often the most stereotyped here. DT themselves I believe isn't bad.
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Hydreigon
274 posts
Joined February 2020
Hydreigon
Now, do double time in higher difficulties.


In short, it does help, your just doing DT in lower diffs thats why its a bit easier, and the pp gap is not that big in comparison to your normal plays, so its fine to use DT as your already improving and going up ranks.

Basically, playing all mods will improve your skill somewhat.
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dung eater
2,440 posts
Joined December 2013
dung eater
focus on any specific thing that's differend, will not teach you that much of other things. some dt only players get frustrated when they can't read or play lower ar/bpm maps at a star rating they can play dt fine.
Happy Satoko
280 posts
Joined November 2019
Happy Satoko
it is absolutely not bad, please don't make the mistake I did. some DT scores might be overweighted but it's excellent for improving at the game.
KS Wicher
602 posts
Joined March 2019
KS Wicher
dt is the most universal mode i believe
you want to aim faster? dt
you want to burst faster? dt
you want to give yourself rsi with 250 bpm finger control? dt
dt is just a tool and how you use it is up to you
Voidedosu
3,105 posts
Joined June 2016
Voidedosu

Nanofranne wrote:

As someone lacking in power, DT mainly helps hand in hand with getting my grip on HR. It's more intuitive to put 3* with DT and learn higher map AR and OD with it than straight HR early on with prior NM only player.
Personaly, that's less intuitive because of the speed-up that DT provides. I would much rather practice higher AR/OD at the same speed it'll be at with HR as opposed to being 1.5x faster.

to answer the OP, though, no, DT by itself isn't bad. Objectively it's the best mod to use for pp gains (HDDT the specific best mod combo), and there is some truth to it being a good way to train skills. It's just not going to feel like it when you're playing low SR maps and it's less of a skill check and more like "What you're playing already, just slightly faster."

(Btw, an NM SS of a 2.5-3* map is usually about 30-40pp. A DT SS is usually 80 at minimum and often is above 100pp. HRHD would only up to to 50-60 normally, so that's a pretty huge jump. It may not seem like it if your DT playability averages out to be the same as with NM, but it's pretty big.)
JLuca913 891
454 posts
Joined December 2022
JLuca913 891
DT is fun and it gives pp

but playing dt too much is bad because you might hate playing nm if you play dt too much
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KS Wicher
602 posts
Joined March 2019
KS Wicher

JLuca913 891 wrote:

DT is fun and it gives pp

but playing dt too much is bad because you might hate playing nm if you play dt too much
Dt player here

Depending on what maps you play dt can be literally anything
You can Play tech, finger Control, AIM control etc.
Dt isn't a playstyle, its a tool

I play lots of dt but only like 1/4 of maps i play are even decently farmable

There is no difference between 130 bpm burst dt map

And 200 bpm nm burst map
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Jangsoodlor
Jangsoodlor
No (look at my top plays lol)
Vallacy
27 posts
Joined April 2023
Vallacy
Damn...
kingautist
50 posts
Joined May 2020
kingautist
No one is this thread noticed that OP is a six digit and likely finds DT easier because of higher AR
Babilfrenzo
203 posts
Joined January 2018
Babilfrenzo
DT sucks

Some maps are stupidly overweighted with DT for pp. It's more useful (for improvement) later on when you're being limited by your pattern processing and/or tapping speed. As a general rule, don't play something with DT unless you can also play it at the normal speed.
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Jebus1
215 posts
Joined June 2022
Jebus1
I my top plays are full of HDDT plays that are overweighted as hell "it's getting slightly better, used to be a overweighted score í.3 but now only 6.9) and I'm not even mad Abt it😌
Nanofranne
692 posts
Joined May 2018
Nanofranne

Jebus1 wrote:

I my top plays are full of HDDT plays that are overweighted as hell "it's getting slightly better, used to be a overweighted score í.3 but now only 6.9) and I'm not even mad Abt it😌
Yeah. Nothing is truly wrong with DT itself. Being a one trick is kind of frowned upon but If you truly enjoy it, then no problem
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Lilyn
825 posts
Joined September 2020
Lilyn
the only valid DT scores are old map DT. they're very respectable if you get a good acc/fc on them
KS Wicher
602 posts
Joined March 2019
KS Wicher

Lilyn wrote:

the only valid DT scores are old map DT. they're very respectable if you get a good acc/fc on them
i just like my maps fast wdym
(thats why i also play spaced alt)
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Akisu
189 posts
Joined August 2022
Akisu
My opinion doesn’t matter I’m washed
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

JojoXD wrote:

My opinion doesn’t matter I’m washed
but you're a DT player so your opinion counts as well
ungsuhan
138 posts
Joined February 2019
ungsuhan
Yes it is bad and i will forever regret and hate myself for not maining hard rock
KS Wicher
602 posts
Joined March 2019
KS Wicher

ungsuhan wrote:

Yes it is bad and i will forever regret and hate myself for not maining hard rock
why not main hrdt then?
ungsuhan
138 posts
Joined February 2019
ungsuhan

KS Wicher wrote:

ungsuhan wrote:

Yes it is bad and i will forever regret and hate myself for not maining hard rock
why not main hrdt then?
You are right. I'm actually on training arc for DTHR. In fact i am improving quite fast, almost too fast, as i have already reached #1 country rank for reaction on osu!skills in just the span of 2 weeks. However one cannot simply spam AR 11. My eyes are dead, so im going back to DT
KS Wicher
602 posts
Joined March 2019
KS Wicher

ungsuhan wrote:

KS Wicher wrote:

ungsuhan wrote:

Yes it is bad and i will forever regret and hate myself for not maining hard rock
why not main hrdt then?
You are right. I'm actually on training arc for DTHR. In fact i am improving quite fast, almost too fast, as i have already reached #1 country rank for reaction on osu!skills in just the span of 2 weeks. However one cannot simply spam AR 11. My eyes are dead, so im going back to DT
stay strong and dont injure yourself mr i beat lifeline in reaction speed
ungsuhan
138 posts
Joined February 2019
ungsuhan

KS Wicher wrote:

ungsuhan wrote:

KS Wicher wrote:

ungsuhan wrote:

Yes it is bad and i will forever regret and hate myself for not maining hard rock
why not main hrdt then?
You are right. I'm actually on training arc for DTHR. In fact i am improving quite fast, almost too fast, as i have already reached #1 country rank for reaction on osu!skills in just the span of 2 weeks. However one cannot simply spam AR 11. My eyes are dead, so im going back to DT
stay strong and dont injure yourself mr i beat lifeline in reaction speed
Likewise, DT player. I am aware of my goofy behavior, but i ask not be refered as 'mr i beat lifeline in reaction speed'. I know i'm cringe for farming reaction speed, but I am proud. Yet still, You cannot tell me AR 11 doesn't look swag.
KS Wicher
602 posts
Joined March 2019
KS Wicher
Nah i legit believe that you can acomplish that
Stay on the grind 🤑🤑
Akisu
189 posts
Joined August 2022
Akisu
DT made me worse at the game all those ar 8 tv sized maps fucced up my rhythm sense
Jebus1
215 posts
Joined June 2022
Jebus1

JojoXD wrote:

DT made me worse at the game all those ar 8 tv sized maps fucced up my rhythm sense
I stopped ar 8 after a bit and now I do ar 9+DT much better I also throw in a bit of variety every now and then, some speed some stream some high bpm jumps some nm having variety helps a lot even if you still just main a specific mod set
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anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

JojoXD wrote:

DT made me worse at the game all those ar 8 tv sized maps fucced up my rhythm sense
time to be a NM player then
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