How does one train reading fundamentals? Aim and tapping are pretty straightforward in terms of evaluating and training, but how does one measure and improve reading? Is it just reading ez/high ar?

hard pattern- miss =
hard pattern- hit = improvement
thats the measure

for practicing reading just play whatever is hard to read for u, doesnt matter if its ez, nomod tech, alternate, aim control
just play hard to read stuff, i progressed in reading a lot recently by just playing hard to read stuff

More like low ar with EZ and high are with DT/HR

What about "easy" patterns that you miss but don't register what you did wrong? Should they be practiced or is it more of a focus problem than a reading problem?

PyaPaya wrote:

How does one train reading fundamentals? Aim and tapping are pretty straightforward in terms of evaluating and training, but how does one measure and improve reading? Is it just reading ez/high ar?

"Reading" is a nebulous term but in its most common (when not attached to a prefix like "low-ar") and certainly its most useful definition, it's more about figuring out exactly where (and to a lesser extent "when") a circle is placed, and then mapping it into a hand motion. It's not about figuring out what order/pattern the circles are in. Just because you can tell what the order of the circles is, and read whether they are 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 etc, doesn't mean you can't read the pattern better. One can have fantastic reading but struggle to play low AR.

This is why reading is the foundation of aim, most of the difficulty of high star aim actually comes from figuring out exactly where the circle is and mapping the motion onto your hand, rather than from the mechanical strain of moving your arm.

I hope that this helps, because frankly it's extremely hard to explain. I feel like when I was rank ~30k, this whole concept kind of dawned on me. I used to think I could "read" EZ just because I could tell which circle came next. In reality, my aim was much more inconsistent because I couldn't actually read it, and my UR was probably like 200 (although this would be disguised by EZ's comparatively low OD). This is also why some highly skilled players, like Rohulk and BTMC (and also me, I am no top player but anecdotally it helps a lot), look at each individual circle. They clearly already know which order the circles are in - what they're really doing is trying to absorb the exact location of the circle.

This realization and subsequent adjustment to my playstyle quickly made my aim significantly better and vastly more consistent. In my case at least a true understanding of reading fundamentals was the difference between ~30k and 4 digit.

the key to better reading is just playing as many different maps that you can fit in your session. sightreading lots of maps (playing new maps for the first time) is key to learning how to read as you will start to see patterns and the same sort of groupings of notes/rhythms the more maps you play.

playing EZ will only make you better at EZ, not general reading. same with high AR.

Simply explained, reading is term of how confident you can execute things.

You might get 99% from a maps that you used to only achieve B or even C months ago before. Aside from you developing your consistency and raw skill, you also improving your reading for that example because you understand how fast you should be tapping pattern, putting this much aiming to hit that jump, where this crazy slider with tumours is going, etc.

How EZ translates into general reading is disputed. Personally, I think it's marginal at best. Notes starts to appear more dense with AR >9 on 6*, which does put preassure on your confidence to track things here and there. EZ kinda prepare you to understand certain way notes is mapped? I can't really precisely explain it myself.

Playing variety of maps is beneficial to your reading. SImply push your limits once in a while and Mastering what you can reasonably do

just play a ton of everything and your reading will improve

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just play a ton of everything and your reading will improve

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just play a ton of everything and your reading will improve

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Naiad wrote:

PyaPaya wrote:

How does one train reading fundamentals? Aim and tapping are pretty straightforward in terms of evaluating and training, but how does one measure and improve reading? Is it just reading ez/high ar?

"Reading" is a nebulous term but in its most common (when not attached to a prefix like "low-ar") and certainly its most useful definition, it's more about figuring out exactly where (and to a lesser extent "when") a circle is placed, and then mapping it into a hand motion. It's not about figuring out what order/pattern the circles are in. Just because you can tell what the order of the circles is, and read whether they are 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 etc, doesn't mean you can't read the pattern better. One can have fantastic reading but struggle to play low AR.

This is why reading is the foundation of aim, most of the difficulty of high star aim actually comes from figuring out exactly where the circle is and mapping the motion onto your hand, rather than from the mechanical strain of moving your arm.

I hope that this helps, because frankly it's extremely hard to explain. I feel like when I was rank ~30k, this whole concept kind of dawned on me. I used to think I could "read" EZ just because I could tell which circle came next. In reality, my aim was much more inconsistent because I couldn't actually read it, and my UR was probably like 200 (although this would be disguised by EZ's comparatively low OD). This is also why some highly skilled players, like Rohulk and BTMC (and also me, I am no top player but anecdotally it helps a lot), look at each individual circle. They clearly already know which order the circles are in - what they're really doing is trying to absorb the exact location of the circle.

This realization and subsequent adjustment to my playstyle quickly made my aim significantly better and vastly more consistent. In my case at least a true understanding of reading fundamentals was the difference between ~30k and 4 digit.

How do you transition/practice reading circles individually? I've tried it before but found it overwhelming especially for bursts and streams.

PyaPaya wrote:

Naiad wrote:

PyaPaya wrote:

How does one train reading fundamentals? Aim and tapping are pretty straightforward in terms of evaluating and training, but how does one measure and improve reading? Is it just reading ez/high ar?

"Reading" is a nebulous term but in its most common (when not attached to a prefix like "low-ar") and certainly its most useful definition, it's more about figuring out exactly where (and to a lesser extent "when") a circle is placed, and then mapping it into a hand motion. It's not about figuring out what order/pattern the circles are in. Just because you can tell what the order of the circles is, and read whether they are 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 etc, doesn't mean you can't read the pattern better. One can have fantastic reading but struggle to play low AR.

This is why reading is the foundation of aim, most of the difficulty of high star aim actually comes from figuring out exactly where the circle is and mapping the motion onto your hand, rather than from the mechanical strain of moving your arm.

I hope that this helps, because frankly it's extremely hard to explain. I feel like when I was rank ~30k, this whole concept kind of dawned on me. I used to think I could "read" EZ just because I could tell which circle came next. In reality, my aim was much more inconsistent because I couldn't actually read it, and my UR was probably like 200 (although this would be disguised by EZ's comparatively low OD). This is also why some highly skilled players, like Rohulk and BTMC (and also me, I am no top player but anecdotally it helps a lot), look at each individual circle. They clearly already know which order the circles are in - what they're really doing is trying to absorb the exact location of the circle.

This realization and subsequent adjustment to my playstyle quickly made my aim significantly better and vastly more consistent. In my case at least a true understanding of reading fundamentals was the difference between ~30k and 4 digit.

How do you transition/practice reading circles individually? I've tried it before but found it overwhelming especially for bursts and streams.

You don't read it individually. You just know when it's coming and hit them withouth much consious thought. Think of stream like sliders. You follow along stream closely just like you follow slider

With playtime, you'll able to comprehend pattern faster, with more complexity, and with more density. Master you can do, explore your limit

Nanofranne wrote:

PyaPaya wrote:

Naiad wrote:

PyaPaya wrote:

How does one train reading fundamentals? Aim and tapping are pretty straightforward in terms of evaluating and training, but how does one measure and improve reading? Is it just reading ez/high ar?

"Reading" is a nebulous term but in its most common (when not attached to a prefix like "low-ar") and certainly its most useful definition, it's more about figuring out exactly where (and to a lesser extent "when") a circle is placed, and then mapping it into a hand motion. It's not about figuring out what order/pattern the circles are in. Just because you can tell what the order of the circles is, and read whether they are 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 etc, doesn't mean you can't read the pattern better. One can have fantastic reading but struggle to play low AR.

This is why reading is the foundation of aim, most of the difficulty of high star aim actually comes from figuring out exactly where the circle is and mapping the motion onto your hand, rather than from the mechanical strain of moving your arm.

I hope that this helps, because frankly it's extremely hard to explain. I feel like when I was rank ~30k, this whole concept kind of dawned on me. I used to think I could "read" EZ just because I could tell which circle came next. In reality, my aim was much more inconsistent because I couldn't actually read it, and my UR was probably like 200 (although this would be disguised by EZ's comparatively low OD). This is also why some highly skilled players, like Rohulk and BTMC (and also me, I am no top player but anecdotally it helps a lot), look at each individual circle. They clearly already know which order the circles are in - what they're really doing is trying to absorb the exact location of the circle.

This realization and subsequent adjustment to my playstyle quickly made my aim significantly better and vastly more consistent. In my case at least a true understanding of reading fundamentals was the difference between ~30k and 4 digit.

How do you transition/practice reading circles individually? I've tried it before but found it overwhelming especially for bursts and streams.

You don't read it individually. You just know when it's coming and hit them withouth much consious thought. Think of stream like sliders. You follow along stream closely just like you follow slider

With playtime, you'll able to comprehend pattern faster, with more complexity, and with more density. Master you can do, explore your limit

kinda makes sense, like a big goofy slider


with this piece of information now im able to stream 200 bpm

KS Wicher wrote:

Nanofranne wrote:

PyaPaya wrote:

Naiad wrote:

PyaPaya wrote:

How does one train reading fundamentals? Aim and tapping are pretty straightforward in terms of evaluating and training, but how does one measure and improve reading? Is it just reading ez/high ar?

"Reading" is a nebulous term but in its most common (when not attached to a prefix like "low-ar") and certainly its most useful definition, it's more about figuring out exactly where (and to a lesser extent "when") a circle is placed, and then mapping it into a hand motion. It's not about figuring out what order/pattern the circles are in. Just because you can tell what the order of the circles is, and read whether they are 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 etc, doesn't mean you can't read the pattern better. One can have fantastic reading but struggle to play low AR.

This is why reading is the foundation of aim, most of the difficulty of high star aim actually comes from figuring out exactly where the circle is and mapping the motion onto your hand, rather than from the mechanical strain of moving your arm.

I hope that this helps, because frankly it's extremely hard to explain. I feel like when I was rank ~30k, this whole concept kind of dawned on me. I used to think I could "read" EZ just because I could tell which circle came next. In reality, my aim was much more inconsistent because I couldn't actually read it, and my UR was probably like 200 (although this would be disguised by EZ's comparatively low OD). This is also why some highly skilled players, like Rohulk and BTMC (and also me, I am no top player but anecdotally it helps a lot), look at each individual circle. They clearly already know which order the circles are in - what they're really doing is trying to absorb the exact location of the circle.

This realization and subsequent adjustment to my playstyle quickly made my aim significantly better and vastly more consistent. In my case at least a true understanding of reading fundamentals was the difference between ~30k and 4 digit.

How do you transition/practice reading circles individually? I've tried it before but found it overwhelming especially for bursts and streams.

You don't read it individually. You just know when it's coming and hit them withouth much consious thought. Think of stream like sliders. You follow along stream closely just like you follow slider

With playtime, you'll able to comprehend pattern faster, with more complexity, and with more density. Master you can do, explore your limit

kinda makes sense, like a big goofy slider


with this piece of information now im able to stream 200 bpm

TLDR; Do not read every single circles on your screen individually, instead play without any thoughts and see how it goes

PyaPaya wrote:

Naiad wrote:

PyaPaya wrote:

How does one train reading fundamentals? Aim and tapping are pretty straightforward in terms of evaluating and training, but how does one measure and improve reading? Is it just reading ez/high ar?

"Reading" is a nebulous term but in its most common (when not attached to a prefix like "low-ar") and certainly its most useful definition, it's more about figuring out exactly where (and to a lesser extent "when") a circle is placed, and then mapping it into a hand motion. It's not about figuring out what order/pattern the circles are in. Just because you can tell what the order of the circles is, and read whether they are 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 etc, doesn't mean you can't read the pattern better. One can have fantastic reading but struggle to play low AR.

This is why reading is the foundation of aim, most of the difficulty of high star aim actually comes from figuring out exactly where the circle is and mapping the motion onto your hand, rather than from the mechanical strain of moving your arm.

I hope that this helps, because frankly it's extremely hard to explain. I feel like when I was rank ~30k, this whole concept kind of dawned on me. I used to think I could "read" EZ just because I could tell which circle came next. In reality, my aim was much more inconsistent because I couldn't actually read it, and my UR was probably like 200 (although this would be disguised by EZ's comparatively low OD). This is also why some highly skilled players, like Rohulk and BTMC (and also me, I am no top player but anecdotally it helps a lot), look at each individual circle. They clearly already know which order the circles are in - what they're really doing is trying to absorb the exact location of the circle.

This realization and subsequent adjustment to my playstyle quickly made my aim significantly better and vastly more consistent. In my case at least a true understanding of reading fundamentals was the difference between ~30k and 4 digit.

How do you transition/practice reading circles individually? I've tried it before but found it overwhelming especially for bursts and streams.

There's no trick, really. You just have to do it over and over until it becomes more natural, kind of like high ar reading. For streams, it is admittedly harder to read individual notes, so in general I just try to keep my eyes a few circles ahead of my cursor. Definitely make sure to read each curve and especially each notch in the stream.

Naiad wrote:

PyaPaya wrote:

Naiad wrote:

PyaPaya wrote:

How does one train reading fundamentals? Aim and tapping are pretty straightforward in terms of evaluating and training, but how does one measure and improve reading? Is it just reading ez/high ar?

"Reading" is a nebulous term but in its most common (when not attached to a prefix like "low-ar") and certainly its most useful definition, it's more about figuring out exactly where (and to a lesser extent "when") a circle is placed, and then mapping it into a hand motion. It's not about figuring out what order/pattern the circles are in. Just because you can tell what the order of the circles is, and read whether they are 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 etc, doesn't mean you can't read the pattern better. One can have fantastic reading but struggle to play low AR.

This is why reading is the foundation of aim, most of the difficulty of high star aim actually comes from figuring out exactly where the circle is and mapping the motion onto your hand, rather than from the mechanical strain of moving your arm.

I hope that this helps, because frankly it's extremely hard to explain. I feel like when I was rank ~30k, this whole concept kind of dawned on me. I used to think I could "read" EZ just because I could tell which circle came next. In reality, my aim was much more inconsistent because I couldn't actually read it, and my UR was probably like 200 (although this would be disguised by EZ's comparatively low OD). This is also why some highly skilled players, like Rohulk and BTMC (and also me, I am no top player but anecdotally it helps a lot), look at each individual circle. They clearly already know which order the circles are in - what they're really doing is trying to absorb the exact location of the circle.

This realization and subsequent adjustment to my playstyle quickly made my aim significantly better and vastly more consistent. In my case at least a true understanding of reading fundamentals was the difference between ~30k and 4 digit.

How do you transition/practice reading circles individually? I've tried it before but found it overwhelming especially for bursts and streams.

There's no trick, really. You just have to do it over and over until it becomes more natural, kind of like high ar reading. For streams, it is admittedly harder to read individual notes, so in general I just try to keep my eyes a few circles ahead of my cursor. Definitely make sure to read each curve and especially each notch in the stream.

basically, if you play more you will get used to it and get better

PyaPaya wrote:

What about "easy" patterns that you miss but don't register what you did wrong? Should they be practiced or is it more of a focus problem than a reading problem?

yep. it can be focus problme, oooor just a bad muscle memory