https://myanimelist.net/anime/861/xxxHOLiC (24 episodes)
there is still a second season (13 episodes) and two OVAs with 2 episodes each.
there is still a second season (13 episodes) and two OVAs with 2 episodes each.
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Review Aharen-san wa Hakarenai.
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I've read the manga and i'm lazy to watch the anime also can I just talk about the mangaBehrauder wrote:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/861/xxxHOLiC (24 episodes)
there is still a second season (13 episodes) and two OVAs with 2 episodes each.
sureKobold84 wrote:
Review Aharen-san wa Hakarenai.
I didn't read the manga (I just watched the anime), but if you're ok with that, sure!Patatitta wrote:
I've read the manga and i'm lazy to watch the anime also can I just talk about the mangaBehrauder wrote:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/861/xxxHOLiC (24 episodes)
there is still a second season (13 episodes) and two OVAs with 2 episodes each.
Topic Starter
xxxHolic
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ngl I don't remember very much from this
it's a manga made by CLAMP, arguably one of the most successfull and famous mangaka/mangaka group of all time, art is REALLY good but not as good as cardcaptor sakura clear card. Tho tbf shoujo mangas have always been on the front of art in manga, and in general in the front of almost everything, so it makes sense that xxxHolic, being a seinen, is a little bit more chill in that aspect
While the structure it has isn't episodic, it just kinda decides to go on indefinitively until it decides the manga has gone on for long enough that they start tying everything together and finish the manga
the story is about spirits, and the way it's executed it gives this feel of a traditional story, something you may actually see in real mythology, just adapted to a modern setting
I don't really have much else to say, I read it, I enjoyed it, I don't have many thoughts about it
placed in B rank
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ngl I don't remember very much from this
it's a manga made by CLAMP, arguably one of the most successfull and famous mangaka/mangaka group of all time, art is REALLY good but not as good as cardcaptor sakura clear card. Tho tbf shoujo mangas have always been on the front of art in manga, and in general in the front of almost everything, so it makes sense that xxxHolic, being a seinen, is a little bit more chill in that aspect
While the structure it has isn't episodic, it just kinda decides to go on indefinitively until it decides the manga has gone on for long enough that they start tying everything together and finish the manga
the story is about spirits, and the way it's executed it gives this feel of a traditional story, something you may actually see in real mythology, just adapted to a modern setting
I don't really have much else to say, I read it, I enjoyed it, I don't have many thoughts about it
placed in B rank
1. Dricam!!
2. Youchien Wars
~Yeah yeah they're both shounen Jump+ but I highly recommend the 2nd one.
~1st is finished while the 2nd is still publishing.
2. Youchien Wars
~Yeah yeah they're both shounen Jump+ but I highly recommend the 2nd one.
~1st is finished while the 2nd is still publishing.
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Will do both expecting to enjoy neitherCLICKMACHINE wrote:
1. Dricam!!
2. Youchien Wars
~Yeah yeah they're both shounen Jump+ but I highly recommend the 2nd one.
~1st is finished while the 2nd is still publishing.
Topic Starter
Aharen-san wa Hakarenai
the more I think about it the worse it becomes, it's not good as a romance, it's not good as a comedy, it's not good as a romcom, or even as a typical chill school anime
This is a romcom school anime about a guy who meets a girl. And like most of those shows, there is a gimmick to the girl, and that is that as the title says, she's indecipherable, meaning she's basically expresionless. Expresionless characeres aren't nothing new in anime, they're a very common trope as it's considered to be very cute. It's seen as a cute, for some reason expresionless characters give the urge to protect them.
For this type of anime, that gimmick is lame, not only because it's not particullary original, which is actually not something I care about that much in this type of anime, but because it doesn't bring anything new to the table. Romcom anime already work a lot with missunderstandings to make comedy and the plot advance. So framing it as something new and unique to this anime just feels disingenuous.
Also, it generally doesn't even make that much sense?, because the main character is the only one that can really understand the girl, and they're also as expresionless, so uhhhhhhhhh idk. Also when they do understand them wrong which is a lot of times it's mainly because of the protagonist daydreaming situations that are clearly not the case.
Still, if it's just as good as not having a gimmick that would make it average, not bad. If I give you something and then take it away it should theoretically be the same as not having it in the first place. But this isn't the only flaw I see in this anime, I think my biggest problem with it is that it's just really, really, really poorly written
the plot is contrived as fuck, and not in the funny comedic way, I mean that characters motivations or personalities are writen, used as a plot device and then forgotten. For example, the main character talks to the girl in episode 1 because they want to be a popular guy. That plot point is abandoned started episode 2. It never gets brought up again, we never see them trying to make more friends, no nothing.
Another example of that is the girl being extremely quiet. There is a whole segment of trying to get to communicate with her that just leads to everything failing for whatever reason. But after the joke is done, they just forget about it, the character suddenly develops super hearing (i'm not kidding), and they can now talk to each other fine. After that this is completely forgotten, The superhearing is never mentioned again, every other character can hear them well, until one scene in the middle of the anime that once again use that to force a situation and then again forget about it.
You can't just make character traits appear only when they're convenient to you. That's just lazy writting. Also you may say "ohhhhhh it's a romcom anime you're not supposed to think that hard about it every anime does something like that" and no they don't, most animes are well written in that regard, also allowing things to be worse just because it's comedy or because your're just meant to find it comfortable rather than deep or whatever is such a shit mentality, there are no excuses for bad writting.
This anime also constantly baits for social media engagement. They literally copy the chika dance trying to go viral, they force clippable moments and talks about the trending thing such as fidget spinners, can't say those segments aged well.
I also mentioned that as a romance I think it's bad, not only because the character writting is weak as I said, but also, I never really felt much romantic tension between the two protagonists?, the female protagonist is basically a child, it's small, cute, to be protected and cared for, and the male protagonist does that. So it feels more like a brother/sister relationship, platonic love, so when they actually make advances it kinda feels from out of nowhere.
Those same advances are also not projected in the best way, because once again, they don't know how to make that part engaging, so they purpousely cut scenes to cut key details so that we the viewer wouldn't know and try to hold that tension and mistery for two episodes and I just don't get that move. And again, "other animes do it!", not really because this is a complete change on the POV of the anime. We had always seen the anime from the lens of the male protagonist and then it randomly decided you wouldn't do that anymore because we can't find a way for the anime to be good without completely killing any traces of consistency this anime may have had
Placed in D tier.
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nothing else to watch
haven't started to read
the more I think about it the worse it becomes, it's not good as a romance, it's not good as a comedy, it's not good as a romcom, or even as a typical chill school anime
This is a romcom school anime about a guy who meets a girl. And like most of those shows, there is a gimmick to the girl, and that is that as the title says, she's indecipherable, meaning she's basically expresionless. Expresionless characeres aren't nothing new in anime, they're a very common trope as it's considered to be very cute. It's seen as a cute, for some reason expresionless characters give the urge to protect them.
For this type of anime, that gimmick is lame, not only because it's not particullary original, which is actually not something I care about that much in this type of anime, but because it doesn't bring anything new to the table. Romcom anime already work a lot with missunderstandings to make comedy and the plot advance. So framing it as something new and unique to this anime just feels disingenuous.
Also, it generally doesn't even make that much sense?, because the main character is the only one that can really understand the girl, and they're also as expresionless, so uhhhhhhhhh idk. Also when they do understand them wrong which is a lot of times it's mainly because of the protagonist daydreaming situations that are clearly not the case.
Still, if it's just as good as not having a gimmick that would make it average, not bad. If I give you something and then take it away it should theoretically be the same as not having it in the first place. But this isn't the only flaw I see in this anime, I think my biggest problem with it is that it's just really, really, really poorly written
the plot is contrived as fuck, and not in the funny comedic way, I mean that characters motivations or personalities are writen, used as a plot device and then forgotten. For example, the main character talks to the girl in episode 1 because they want to be a popular guy. That plot point is abandoned started episode 2. It never gets brought up again, we never see them trying to make more friends, no nothing.
Another example of that is the girl being extremely quiet. There is a whole segment of trying to get to communicate with her that just leads to everything failing for whatever reason. But after the joke is done, they just forget about it, the character suddenly develops super hearing (i'm not kidding), and they can now talk to each other fine. After that this is completely forgotten, The superhearing is never mentioned again, every other character can hear them well, until one scene in the middle of the anime that once again use that to force a situation and then again forget about it.
You can't just make character traits appear only when they're convenient to you. That's just lazy writting. Also you may say "ohhhhhh it's a romcom anime you're not supposed to think that hard about it every anime does something like that" and no they don't, most animes are well written in that regard, also allowing things to be worse just because it's comedy or because your're just meant to find it comfortable rather than deep or whatever is such a shit mentality, there are no excuses for bad writting.
This anime also constantly baits for social media engagement. They literally copy the chika dance trying to go viral, they force clippable moments and talks about the trending thing such as fidget spinners, can't say those segments aged well.
I also mentioned that as a romance I think it's bad, not only because the character writting is weak as I said, but also, I never really felt much romantic tension between the two protagonists?, the female protagonist is basically a child, it's small, cute, to be protected and cared for, and the male protagonist does that. So it feels more like a brother/sister relationship, platonic love, so when they actually make advances it kinda feels from out of nowhere.
Those same advances are also not projected in the best way, because once again, they don't know how to make that part engaging, so they purpousely cut scenes to cut key details so that we the viewer wouldn't know and try to hold that tension and mistery for two episodes and I just don't get that move. And again, "other animes do it!", not really because this is a complete change on the POV of the anime. We had always seen the anime from the lens of the male protagonist and then it randomly decided you wouldn't do that anymore because we can't find a way for the anime to be good without completely killing any traces of consistency this anime may have had
Placed in D tier.
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nothing else to watch
haven't started to read
Topic Starter
Dricam!!
bad
Dricam is a vertical manga published by shounen jump about racing, it was distributed in digital format first, physical second (if it even exists i've not checked), so it's made with phones in mind.
The plot of dricam is that there is this girl who is really good at driving and racing and drifting who gets into college and joins the drifting club. Drifting is a different sport than racing, the goal is drifting is just doing that, the most perfect drifts that you can.
There is a lot of pararellism here to initial D, the protagonist is a naturally good driver that comes out of nowhere and floors the pros by having really cool drift, but lacks a good vehicle and general theory and knowledge about cards and the sport they're participating in. I think one of the first races in the manga is actually a intial D type chase race.
One of the biggest differences and one of the first things dricam does to differentiate itself from initial D is having the protagonist lose a race. For context in initial D fujiwara is a force of nature, he's actually such a accidently badass and almost intimidating figure that takes up insanely gimmicky races that lead to almost certain death and comes out on top without thinking much of it. Dricam isn't aiming to be that style of story, it's a lot more light, a lot les intense, this is not a bad thing
the problem is when they try to make this plot of self improvement and grinding sport animes tend to have, there is no training arc when you're already on the top. So when they actually do try to create some tension during some races or whatever it just doesn't work out
The manga also takes a lot of time to get started?, because of the tone and the pacing you would be forgived if you thoguht it was a cgdct adjacent manga during the first half of the manga, whicl just makes the second half feel a lot weaker
One thing I found ver strange about this manga is the unusual lack of cars. I don't mean that they don't drive cars, they do, but all of the models and brand are censored, which is VERY VERY strange to see in any media about racing. People LOVE comparing and talking about the real life cars that they drive in stuff like this, they're almost as important as the characters. Again, the A86 Trueno is as legendary as takumi fujiwara. I'm not personally really into car so I don't really care that much but I feel not including brands and real life models is shooting yourself in the foot.
About the art, it's full color, but it's not particullary pretty. The coloring exists but it's nothing out of this world.
Now, as I said this is vertical, this is made with phones in mind, that changes A LOT of things. Reading vertical is a lot more dynamic, there isn't a distinction between pages, you just keep scrolling, it gives more energy, but in doing so you're sacrificing the big shocking full spreads. It's a lot more impactful to flip a page and see the big drawing than to slowly scroll to it. Vertical is also more limiting than regular, as there is less space to draw stuff, painting a landscape in vertical is a lot more difficult and generally worse looking than doing the same in horizontal
Paneling also takes a big hit, as it's basically inexistent, you have the drawings and then the dead white space to indicate a split between the drawings. I've not really seen paneling or art that original in vertical, much less in this manga.
Also, noticed that this is the same author as the next manga you requested, let's see how much they improved since this
Placed in D tier
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next: Youchien Wars (Manga)
bad
Dricam is a vertical manga published by shounen jump about racing, it was distributed in digital format first, physical second (if it even exists i've not checked), so it's made with phones in mind.
The plot of dricam is that there is this girl who is really good at driving and racing and drifting who gets into college and joins the drifting club. Drifting is a different sport than racing, the goal is drifting is just doing that, the most perfect drifts that you can.
There is a lot of pararellism here to initial D, the protagonist is a naturally good driver that comes out of nowhere and floors the pros by having really cool drift, but lacks a good vehicle and general theory and knowledge about cards and the sport they're participating in. I think one of the first races in the manga is actually a intial D type chase race.
One of the biggest differences and one of the first things dricam does to differentiate itself from initial D is having the protagonist lose a race. For context in initial D fujiwara is a force of nature, he's actually such a accidently badass and almost intimidating figure that takes up insanely gimmicky races that lead to almost certain death and comes out on top without thinking much of it. Dricam isn't aiming to be that style of story, it's a lot more light, a lot les intense, this is not a bad thing
the problem is when they try to make this plot of self improvement and grinding sport animes tend to have, there is no training arc when you're already on the top. So when they actually do try to create some tension during some races or whatever it just doesn't work out
The manga also takes a lot of time to get started?, because of the tone and the pacing you would be forgived if you thoguht it was a cgdct adjacent manga during the first half of the manga, whicl just makes the second half feel a lot weaker
One thing I found ver strange about this manga is the unusual lack of cars. I don't mean that they don't drive cars, they do, but all of the models and brand are censored, which is VERY VERY strange to see in any media about racing. People LOVE comparing and talking about the real life cars that they drive in stuff like this, they're almost as important as the characters. Again, the A86 Trueno is as legendary as takumi fujiwara. I'm not personally really into car so I don't really care that much but I feel not including brands and real life models is shooting yourself in the foot.
About the art, it's full color, but it's not particullary pretty. The coloring exists but it's nothing out of this world.
Now, as I said this is vertical, this is made with phones in mind, that changes A LOT of things. Reading vertical is a lot more dynamic, there isn't a distinction between pages, you just keep scrolling, it gives more energy, but in doing so you're sacrificing the big shocking full spreads. It's a lot more impactful to flip a page and see the big drawing than to slowly scroll to it. Vertical is also more limiting than regular, as there is less space to draw stuff, painting a landscape in vertical is a lot more difficult and generally worse looking than doing the same in horizontal
Paneling also takes a big hit, as it's basically inexistent, you have the drawings and then the dead white space to indicate a split between the drawings. I've not really seen paneling or art that original in vertical, much less in this manga.
Also, noticed that this is the same author as the next manga you requested, let's see how much they improved since this
Placed in D tier
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next: Youchien Wars (Manga)
Topic Starter
this?roshan117 wrote:
Review Button City (game)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1273750/Button_City/
Gonna put in a couple I found in my liked ones:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/40052/Great_Pretender
https://myanimelist.net/anime/35737/Pluto
Oh, and the Ibelin documentary
https://myanimelist.net/anime/40052/Great_Pretender
https://myanimelist.net/anime/35737/Pluto
Oh, and the Ibelin documentary
Topic Starter
i'm pretty sure I have already done those two, and I don't cover documentaries as I don't like talking about non-fiction here, may watch on my own time tho, seems interestingTeeArctic1 wrote:
Gonna put in a couple I found in my liked ones:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/40052/Great_Pretender
https://myanimelist.net/anime/35737/Pluto
Oh, and the Ibelin documentary
also, will assume this is right and start it this weekendPatatitta wrote:
this?roshan117 wrote:
Review Button City (game)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1273750/Button_City/
Cried at the documentary, really recommend it.Patatitta wrote:
i'm pretty sure I have already done those two, and I don't cover documentaries as I don't like talking about non-fiction here, may watch on my own time tho, seems interestingTeeArctic1 wrote:
Gonna put in a couple I found in my liked ones:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/40052/Great_Pretender
https://myanimelist.net/anime/35737/Pluto
Oh, and the Ibelin documentaryalso, will assume this is right and start it this weekendPatatitta wrote:
this?roshan117 wrote:
Review Button City (game)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1273750/Button_City/
Anyhow, in that case, how about:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/46102/Odd_Taxi
https://myanimelist.net/anime/22789/Barakamon
https://myanimelist.net/anime/1210/NHK_ni_Youkoso
And the games Evoland and Evoland 2
Topic Starter
already seen all those 3, will write about them whenever I feel like it (so maybe tonight or something, I want to get some things down in the day before I stop and write) i'm down to play evoland, I watched a playthrough as a kid of 1
Topic Starter
Odd Taxi
kino
This anime is about a guy who drives a taxi and just meets very interesting people in the way, with everything building up to a central mistery. This is not the first story about taxies or the first with that general story structure, but odd taxi may do it the best
the conversation and dialogue in odd taxi feel very real, even with the characters that have very marked personalities, they feel plausible, but I would say a lot of that feeling is carried because of the protagonist
in many ways, the protagonist of odd taxi just acts as a observer, you could compare them to kino from kino no tabi in that regard, they are a not too upbeat individual and is not too judgamental, he just gives space to everyone else to express themselves, which in the context of the story works to build this portrait of the world. In this case them driving a taxi is just the best job narratively speaking, as you're just meant to drive, and the passangers just tells you their whole life.
It's also set in the modern day, which I think also has a strong element of charm, a lot of modern shows who try to talk about modern issues kinda fall through?, it's probably because we're living in it right now that it feels difficult to really represent it. When it's done wrong you get shows like oshi no ko, who's commentary on modern society feels more like a hook to bait viewers in rather than anything too substantial. In that show every real element is exaggerated in a way that doesn't really reflect society, yet odd taxi is able to make comments about our society in a way that feels more effective in real by just having that more relaxed and borderline melancholic atmosphere
Then you have the twist, what a GOOD twist oh my fucking god that is how you do it unironically top 5 twists in anything i've seen. When you watch something like fight club, and then see the ending you are surprised, the story makes sense when recontextualized, but it doesn't hit as strong as odd taxi, because odd taxi plays with your preconcived notions of the medium, it plays into certain tropes, it plays into the fact that anime logic is not 1/1 with reality. All of the hits are there, and they are VERY noticeable, way more than the hints for most twists, but they can hide it plain sight by just going "oh yeah most anime do that to make the story work you just got to hold your disbelief" and then it hits you with it and it's so fucking good
Placed in A rank
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Barakamon
I really respect this anime
Barakamon is a slice of life anime about a frustrated caligraphy artist who kinda gets into artist block who moves temporarily to a small rural island where they end up taking care of a kid
Like sport anime, in slice of life, you don't need to be previously invested in the matter at hand to enjoy it. In slice of life it's probably even better if you're not invested in it beforehand, because they also tend to be very educative on the matter at hand, in this case traditional japanese caligraphy. But even beyond that, if you finish the anime without caring or really understanding caligraphy, that is fine, because it also has deep symbolic meaning
The caligraphy is a device for the protagonist to be stressed out, to be obsessed with work, which are in reality the main themes of the anime. Caligraphy is also a artistic medium, which mains they don't really have to worry that much about deadlines. You can do caligraphy in a very short ammount of time, the point is for it to be good. Another aspect of caligprahy being artistic is that the personality and emotional state of the protagonist is apparent on the brush strokes. As the anime progresses, and they grow as a person, that is reflected in the art.
The island that he moves in works as a relaxing and way lower energy environment than the big city, and I agree that it's a really beautiful place, ut I don't think that is what heals them as a person. The island is a small community, what makes them grow as a person is not the environment, is the fact that they're forced to interact with other people, forced to care for a kid. Such wonderful people as the people in the anime do exist in the big city, but they have never experienced it because they didn't have a incentive to talk to them. The culture of the big city is different, specially in japan, where it's notoriously antisocial
that broandens their horizons, makes them challenge a lot of their own beliefes and values, and what is what makes it growth, not the environment, it's the social relationships
Not my favourite slife of life but I can't deny it's really well written. A rank
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Welcome to the N.H.K
Unironically amazing use of comedy, they knew what they were doing
NHK is about this guy who is a hikikomori, and then there is this girl who tries to help him overcome to their bad lifestyle. The anime at first is presented as a comedy, and it works. Hikikomori, while cruel, it's a funny concept. We point and laugh at hikikomori, because their life habits are absurd from our point of view.
Some of the reasons this happens is because when you become a hikikomori you become disconnected from the world, you lose a lot of your values and culture only to adapt certain radicalized ideals imported from the internet. This is apparent on the protagonist in NHK by the conspiracy theories they believe. They have been led to believe in that vision of the world, and they really don't know any better
Comedy in NHK works to soften us. It's like a romantic comedy, the comedy softens you up so then the romance can hit all that much harder. Yes, we're laughing at the protagonist, but believe it or not, we're also gaining appreciation for it, we don't consider them a bad person because you know, we like seeing them on screen. As the anime progresses we're more willing to engage with them on a equal level
the anime gradually loses it's comedy until it just becomes a very depressing drama. A lot of characters are introduced that live similar lifes to the protagonist at the start of the anime but you're no longer laughing. It draws a amazing picture on hikikomoris and the ugly part of internet culture, about ideology and escapism
That same technique of comedy but not is actually featured on some of my favourite movies, specially love exposure and brazil (1985).
I could write more but it's been a hour of typing all of this out and i'm tired, going to (re)watch shaolin soccer in vc now. Great anime, placed in A tier also
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will start button city tomorrow, evoland 1 and 2 after I finish that one.
kino
This anime is about a guy who drives a taxi and just meets very interesting people in the way, with everything building up to a central mistery. This is not the first story about taxies or the first with that general story structure, but odd taxi may do it the best
the conversation and dialogue in odd taxi feel very real, even with the characters that have very marked personalities, they feel plausible, but I would say a lot of that feeling is carried because of the protagonist
in many ways, the protagonist of odd taxi just acts as a observer, you could compare them to kino from kino no tabi in that regard, they are a not too upbeat individual and is not too judgamental, he just gives space to everyone else to express themselves, which in the context of the story works to build this portrait of the world. In this case them driving a taxi is just the best job narratively speaking, as you're just meant to drive, and the passangers just tells you their whole life.
It's also set in the modern day, which I think also has a strong element of charm, a lot of modern shows who try to talk about modern issues kinda fall through?, it's probably because we're living in it right now that it feels difficult to really represent it. When it's done wrong you get shows like oshi no ko, who's commentary on modern society feels more like a hook to bait viewers in rather than anything too substantial. In that show every real element is exaggerated in a way that doesn't really reflect society, yet odd taxi is able to make comments about our society in a way that feels more effective in real by just having that more relaxed and borderline melancholic atmosphere
Then you have the twist, what a GOOD twist oh my fucking god that is how you do it unironically top 5 twists in anything i've seen. When you watch something like fight club, and then see the ending you are surprised, the story makes sense when recontextualized, but it doesn't hit as strong as odd taxi, because odd taxi plays with your preconcived notions of the medium, it plays into certain tropes, it plays into the fact that anime logic is not 1/1 with reality. All of the hits are there, and they are VERY noticeable, way more than the hints for most twists, but they can hide it plain sight by just going "oh yeah most anime do that to make the story work you just got to hold your disbelief" and then it hits you with it and it's so fucking good
Placed in A rank
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Barakamon
I really respect this anime
Barakamon is a slice of life anime about a frustrated caligraphy artist who kinda gets into artist block who moves temporarily to a small rural island where they end up taking care of a kid
Like sport anime, in slice of life, you don't need to be previously invested in the matter at hand to enjoy it. In slice of life it's probably even better if you're not invested in it beforehand, because they also tend to be very educative on the matter at hand, in this case traditional japanese caligraphy. But even beyond that, if you finish the anime without caring or really understanding caligraphy, that is fine, because it also has deep symbolic meaning
The caligraphy is a device for the protagonist to be stressed out, to be obsessed with work, which are in reality the main themes of the anime. Caligraphy is also a artistic medium, which mains they don't really have to worry that much about deadlines. You can do caligraphy in a very short ammount of time, the point is for it to be good. Another aspect of caligprahy being artistic is that the personality and emotional state of the protagonist is apparent on the brush strokes. As the anime progresses, and they grow as a person, that is reflected in the art.
The island that he moves in works as a relaxing and way lower energy environment than the big city, and I agree that it's a really beautiful place, ut I don't think that is what heals them as a person. The island is a small community, what makes them grow as a person is not the environment, is the fact that they're forced to interact with other people, forced to care for a kid. Such wonderful people as the people in the anime do exist in the big city, but they have never experienced it because they didn't have a incentive to talk to them. The culture of the big city is different, specially in japan, where it's notoriously antisocial
that broandens their horizons, makes them challenge a lot of their own beliefes and values, and what is what makes it growth, not the environment, it's the social relationships
Not my favourite slife of life but I can't deny it's really well written. A rank
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Welcome to the N.H.K
Unironically amazing use of comedy, they knew what they were doing
NHK is about this guy who is a hikikomori, and then there is this girl who tries to help him overcome to their bad lifestyle. The anime at first is presented as a comedy, and it works. Hikikomori, while cruel, it's a funny concept. We point and laugh at hikikomori, because their life habits are absurd from our point of view.
Some of the reasons this happens is because when you become a hikikomori you become disconnected from the world, you lose a lot of your values and culture only to adapt certain radicalized ideals imported from the internet. This is apparent on the protagonist in NHK by the conspiracy theories they believe. They have been led to believe in that vision of the world, and they really don't know any better
Comedy in NHK works to soften us. It's like a romantic comedy, the comedy softens you up so then the romance can hit all that much harder. Yes, we're laughing at the protagonist, but believe it or not, we're also gaining appreciation for it, we don't consider them a bad person because you know, we like seeing them on screen. As the anime progresses we're more willing to engage with them on a equal level
the anime gradually loses it's comedy until it just becomes a very depressing drama. A lot of characters are introduced that live similar lifes to the protagonist at the start of the anime but you're no longer laughing. It draws a amazing picture on hikikomoris and the ugly part of internet culture, about ideology and escapism
That same technique of comedy but not is actually featured on some of my favourite movies, specially love exposure and brazil (1985).
I could write more but it's been a hour of typing all of this out and i'm tired, going to (re)watch shaolin soccer in vc now. Great anime, placed in A tier also
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will start button city tomorrow, evoland 1 and 2 after I finish that one.
also the soundstrack of the anime is fire listen to this
Rate Fuwa Fuwa Spring Storm (it's a great album)
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I don't do music as it says on the OPBluePyTheDeer_ wrote:
Rate Fuwa Fuwa Spring Storm (it's a great album)
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Youchien Wars
worse than their previous ngl
This is a action-comedy manga published by shounen jump. it's about borderline gang wars circulating around a kindergarten. The plot sounds insane, and that is the main hook of the manga. But the novely wears off fast
yes, the first volume or two can be funny, most of it's comedy is based on the surprise element, for example a character randomly pulling a gun killing someone, when you expected a fight or more character developement (like that on efamous indiana jones scene).
The problem is that it doesn't really refresh it's library of jokes often, so they kinda make the same jokes over, and over, and over again. You may say "ah it's just a bit every comedy thing has a joke that they just repeat over and over", but that only works when that is bundled with regular, fresh jokes. Every joke in a this manga is a bit, and after 13 volumes it gets kinda boring. It does hurt to see a new joke be made only for it to be repeated 3-4 times after.
Art is way better than in dricarm, but it's still not peak, art reminded me of kagurabachi.
Placed in D rank
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need to start button city
worse than their previous ngl
This is a action-comedy manga published by shounen jump. it's about borderline gang wars circulating around a kindergarten. The plot sounds insane, and that is the main hook of the manga. But the novely wears off fast
yes, the first volume or two can be funny, most of it's comedy is based on the surprise element, for example a character randomly pulling a gun killing someone, when you expected a fight or more character developement (like that on efamous indiana jones scene).
The problem is that it doesn't really refresh it's library of jokes often, so they kinda make the same jokes over, and over, and over again. You may say "ah it's just a bit every comedy thing has a joke that they just repeat over and over", but that only works when that is bundled with regular, fresh jokes. Every joke in a this manga is a bit, and after 13 volumes it gets kinda boring. It does hurt to see a new joke be made only for it to be repeated 3-4 times after.
Art is way better than in dricarm, but it's still not peak, art reminded me of kagurabachi.
Placed in D rank
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need to start button city
Yes, this one.Patatitta wrote:
this?roshan117 wrote:
Review Button City (game)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1273750/Button_City/
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already started it, it's honestly surprisingly goodroshan117 wrote:
Yes, this one.Patatitta wrote:
this?roshan117 wrote:
Review Button City (game)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1273750/Button_City/
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Button City
this game is as cute point and click game where you're a kid living in a utopia where everything is cutesy and fun and no pain exists and also everyone recycles and the cars are electric. You have a group of friends and mainly hang out around an arcade, the game revolves that arcade
the game purpouse is to be relaxing, comfortable, and dopamine inducing, the plot is very low stakes. While the game basically is very childish, I wouldn't say they're the target audience. I feel the story in a way is too tranquil to really appeal to that demographic?
I don't know, this is a game that in many ways plays with nostalgia, but not nostalgia for what you actually lived through, but a fantasized nostalgia, of a romanticized childhood that I can say with certainty no one has really lived. Living in a small house in a city with american style architecture except that it's a good city to live in and going as a kid as an arcade where the main game is a MOBA and living child cartoon level adventures
for the purpouse of the game, this works great, but I feel it's important to realize that thi was not your experience in life. With the internet and the americentrism of the internet it's easy to forget that, seeing "nostalgiacore" on the internet and feeling the need to relate
In this game there are a a few minigames, a MOBA one, a racing game one, and a rhythm game one, the rhythm game one is very simplistic, but the other 2 are really well designed, in the racing one there is snaking and the game incentivices you to discover how to snake which feels great, probably doesn't have that much depth to it but it works game for the reduced length of this game
the MOBA one is just kinda crazy, the map is interestingly design, the respawn system that basically kills spawncamping, it's actually a really solid game that if it had a little bit more content I could see it being a actual videogame
my only complaint is that the sidequest are kinda too fetch heavy?, outside that great game, placed in A tier
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next: evoland
this game is as cute point and click game where you're a kid living in a utopia where everything is cutesy and fun and no pain exists and also everyone recycles and the cars are electric. You have a group of friends and mainly hang out around an arcade, the game revolves that arcade
the game purpouse is to be relaxing, comfortable, and dopamine inducing, the plot is very low stakes. While the game basically is very childish, I wouldn't say they're the target audience. I feel the story in a way is too tranquil to really appeal to that demographic?
I don't know, this is a game that in many ways plays with nostalgia, but not nostalgia for what you actually lived through, but a fantasized nostalgia, of a romanticized childhood that I can say with certainty no one has really lived. Living in a small house in a city with american style architecture except that it's a good city to live in and going as a kid as an arcade where the main game is a MOBA and living child cartoon level adventures
for the purpouse of the game, this works great, but I feel it's important to realize that thi was not your experience in life. With the internet and the americentrism of the internet it's easy to forget that, seeing "nostalgiacore" on the internet and feeling the need to relate
In this game there are a a few minigames, a MOBA one, a racing game one, and a rhythm game one, the rhythm game one is very simplistic, but the other 2 are really well designed, in the racing one there is snaking and the game incentivices you to discover how to snake which feels great, probably doesn't have that much depth to it but it works game for the reduced length of this game
the MOBA one is just kinda crazy, the map is interestingly design, the respawn system that basically kills spawncamping, it's actually a really solid game that if it had a little bit more content I could see it being a actual videogame
my only complaint is that the sidequest are kinda too fetch heavy?, outside that great game, placed in A tier
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next: evoland
since you enjoyed metro last light, would you be willing to do exodus?
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can I do metro 1 first and that way I finish all the metroburgernfat wrote:
since you enjoyed metro last light, would you be willing to do exodus?
Metro last light's FOV makes me nausious.
Iirc even at max FOV it's at like 60 something. Terrible FOV.
Iirc even at max FOV it's at like 60 something. Terrible FOV.
i personally havent played 2033 so according to this thread's rules i cant suggest it but if you want to play it i'm not gonna stop youPatatitta wrote:
can I do metro 1 first and that way I finish all the metroburgernfat wrote:
since you enjoyed metro last light, would you be willing to do exodus?
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yeah i'm going to play it, will list them bothburgernfat wrote:
i personally havent played 2033 so according to this thread's rules i cant suggest it but if you want to play it i'm not gonna stop youPatatitta wrote:
can I do metro 1 first and that way I finish all the metroburgernfat wrote:
since you enjoyed metro last light, would you be willing to do exodus?
I played 2033, its uh not good but essential for the story
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Evoland
Good game, as a history of videogames it is lacking, but as a fun experience, it delivers
Evoland is a RPG videogame where you start in a very retro era of videogames, and you slowly go unlocking new features that in a way mimicks the actual growth and technological advances in videogames. So you first just move on a 3d space, then you unlock sound, then you unlock better graphics, etc.
This history of videogames as I say is lacking, there isn't much historical rigour if not any, this is apparent from the first moment of the videogame, where you walk right to a chest which unlocks walking left. There wasn't a moment in videogame history where you could walk right but not left. There order of unlocks and events is not accurate to reality.
But even if this is the way the game is marketed, this is not personally the way I percieved or played the videogame, and that is because the actual gameplay structure and gameplay loop of this videogame is very similar to DLC quest, a game that was also released around the same time as evoland that features a similar premise where you start with very little mechanics and go unlock them as the game progresses
from that point of view, the game is fun, it's short and it always keep a sense of relevance since every few minutes you're unlocking something new
The game is mainly divided into two gameplay styles, a FF7 clone, and a zelda clone which ends up being a diablo clone, for the diablo scenario they also mixed in MMO jokes in their equipement
I think the jokes landed, they were pretty funny
I enjoyed, placed on A tier
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next: evoland 2
Good game, as a history of videogames it is lacking, but as a fun experience, it delivers
Evoland is a RPG videogame where you start in a very retro era of videogames, and you slowly go unlocking new features that in a way mimicks the actual growth and technological advances in videogames. So you first just move on a 3d space, then you unlock sound, then you unlock better graphics, etc.
This history of videogames as I say is lacking, there isn't much historical rigour if not any, this is apparent from the first moment of the videogame, where you walk right to a chest which unlocks walking left. There wasn't a moment in videogame history where you could walk right but not left. There order of unlocks and events is not accurate to reality.
But even if this is the way the game is marketed, this is not personally the way I percieved or played the videogame, and that is because the actual gameplay structure and gameplay loop of this videogame is very similar to DLC quest, a game that was also released around the same time as evoland that features a similar premise where you start with very little mechanics and go unlock them as the game progresses
from that point of view, the game is fun, it's short and it always keep a sense of relevance since every few minutes you're unlocking something new
The game is mainly divided into two gameplay styles, a FF7 clone, and a zelda clone which ends up being a diablo clone, for the diablo scenario they also mixed in MMO jokes in their equipement
I think the jokes landed, they were pretty funny
I enjoyed, placed on A tier
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next: evoland 2
https://myanimelist.net/anime/49938/Ame_wo_Tsugeru_Hyouryuu_Danchi
Do you already watch it ? If no, then i req this
Do you already watch it ? If no, then i req this
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1- you can see if i've seen a anime or not by looking at my MAL which is on my signaturereffty_gag wrote:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/49938/Ame_wo_Tsugeru_Hyouryuu_Danchi
Do you already watch it ? If no, then i req this
2- you already requested this, I already covered it, look at the OP, it's in there
oh shit, my badPatatitta wrote:
1- you can see if i've seen a anime or not by looking at my MAL which is on my signaturereffty_gag wrote:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/49938/Ame_wo_Tsugeru_Hyouryuu_Danchi
Do you already watch it ? If no, then i req this
2- you already requested this, I already covered it, look at the OP, it's in there
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already coveredScyla wrote:
bocchi the rock
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yes, I know, also I will review it whenever I finish season 3 so between today and tomorrowBehrauder wrote:
Patatitta wrote here:I'm recommending the anime.
would have liked the railgun character as i'm actively watching the anime rn
roll all
By the way, did you know that a new season has been announced?
also, update on evoland 2: i'm working on it
Uhh checked my steam library, think these are some of those I found
Night in the Woods
Ori and the Blind Forest
This War of Mine
Bastion
Shovel Knight
Getting Over It (I have to inflict at least a little agony)
Night in the Woods
Ori and the Blind Forest
This War of Mine
Bastion
Shovel Knight
Getting Over It (I have to inflict at least a little agony)
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out of those I accept night in the wood, this war of mine, and bastion, since I have not much to say about gameplay centric games (tho i've already played ori, shovel knight and getting over it LOL), out of those, I have already completed night in the woods, sooooTeeArctic1 wrote:
Uhh checked my steam library, think these are some of those I found
Night in the Woods
Ori and the Blind Forest
This War of Mine
Bastion
Shovel Knight
Getting Over It (I have to inflict at least a little agony)
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Night in the woods
really good
Night in the woods is a game that I wouldn't really know how to describe with a genre. There is no real gameplay, you just walk around and talk to people. It's a narrative focused game first and it shows
the game is about a university students who drops out and returns to her decadent small american town, where she reunites with her old group of friends and then shit happens
The plot is very introspective, it's entirerily surrounding the protagonist psyche and the systems at hand that led her to that situation. The protagonist of night in the woods is very much kind of an asshole, however, the longer you play the game the more you understand why she acts like that, it doesn't imply that it's justified or the correct thing to do but you do understand her. Even when the plot gets crazier later, everything can be understood and taken as a metaphor, a representation of herself and her wellbeing
The way the dialogue is written feels very natural, and I would attribute it to a writing trend that has taken over indie gaming that maybe you could trace back to undertale. Whenever you play a AAA. Since forever, whenever you read a book or watch a movie, that dialogue isn't 1:1 what would be said IRL. It is more poetic, it is more contrived to keep the plot going, but if you look at night in the woods you would find the dialogue more raw, and that is because it doesn't take inspiration from the way dialogue is written in novels and films, but on how we communicate over the internet
this gives the dialogue a much different feel. It's sloppier it's dumber it uses less complex vocabulary but that is what makes it feel real. The game is also very slice of life-ish, as the game is just about the protagonist trying to live her daily life in peace and trying to find her way forward in life, so there isn't that constant tension of "oh we need to have this character just do exposition dialogue oh we need to make the protagonist say this to advance the plot"
placed in A rank, really great videogames, will update the tier list in a few hours as I can't do so rn
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still playing evoland 2, i'm close to getting the fragment of time so you can locate in what part of my playthrough I am rn
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12 seasons no thank youOffdensen wrote:
I have another one for you! Aqua Teen Hunger Force!
You don't have to go in order at all, the show has no plot reallyPatatitta wrote:
12 seasons no thank youOffdensen wrote:
I have another one for you! Aqua Teen Hunger Force!
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that's a extra denied then, the things I do usually have plotOffdensen wrote:
You don't have to go in order at all, the show has no plot reallyPatatitta wrote:
12 seasons no thank youOffdensen wrote:
I have another one for you! Aqua Teen Hunger Force!
ok thats fairPatatitta wrote:
that's a extra denied then, the things I do usually have plotOffdensen wrote:
You don't have to go in order at all, the show has no plot reallyPatatitta wrote:
12 seasons no thank youOffdensen wrote:
I have another one for you! Aqua Teen Hunger Force!
watch The Apothecary Diaries
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wait until S2 finishes, then request again, tho I will say that i've watched the anime and manga and I enjoyed itRezq Gokou wrote:
watch The Apothecary Diaries
wait, S2 is airing?Patatitta wrote:
wait until S2 finishes, then request again, tho I will say that i've watched the anime and manga and I enjoyed itRezq Gokou wrote:
watch The Apothecary Diaries
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... yesRezq Gokou wrote:
wait, S2 is airing?Patatitta wrote:
wait until S2 finishes, then request again, tho I will say that i've watched the anime and manga and I enjoyed itRezq Gokou wrote:
watch The Apothecary Diaries
Nice, I'll catch a couple more good quick story games for when you're done with thosePatatitta wrote:
out of those I accept night in the wood, this war of mine, and bastion, since I have not much to say about gameplay centric games (tho i've already played ori, shovel knight and getting over it LOL), out of those, I have already completed night in the woods, sooooTeeArctic1 wrote:
Uhh checked my steam library, think these are some of those I found
Night in the Woods
Ori and the Blind Forest
This War of Mine
Bastion
Shovel Knight
Getting Over It (I have to inflict at least a little agony)
---------------
Night in the woods
really good
Night in the woods is a game that I wouldn't really know how to describe with a genre. There is no real gameplay, you just walk around and talk to people. It's a narrative focused game first and it shows
the game is about a university students who drops out and returns to her decadent small american town, where she reunites with her old group of friends and then shit happens
The plot is very introspective, it's entirerily surrounding the protagonist psyche and the systems at hand that led her to that situation. The protagonist of night in the woods is very much kind of an asshole, however, the longer you play the game the more you understand why she acts like that, it doesn't imply that it's justified or the correct thing to do but you do understand her. Even when the plot gets crazier later, everything can be understood and taken as a metaphor, a representation of herself and her wellbeing
The way the dialogue is written feels very natural, and I would attribute it to a writing trend that has taken over indie gaming that maybe you could trace back to undertale. Whenever you play a AAA. Since forever, whenever you read a book or watch a movie, that dialogue isn't 1:1 what would be said IRL. It is more poetic, it is more contrived to keep the plot going, but if you look at night in the woods you would find the dialogue more raw, and that is because it doesn't take inspiration from the way dialogue is written in novels and films, but on how we communicate over the internet
this gives the dialogue a much different feel. It's sloppier it's dumber it uses less complex vocabulary but that is what makes it feel real. The game is also very slice of life-ish, as the game is just about the protagonist trying to live her daily life in peace and trying to find her way forward in life, so there isn't that constant tension of "oh we need to have this character just do exposition dialogue oh we need to make the protagonist say this to advance the plot"
placed in A rank, really great videogames, will update the tier list in a few hours as I can't do so rn
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still playing evoland 2, i'm close to getting the fragment of time so you can locate in what part of my playthrough I am rn
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Railgun:
It's a fun anime, but far from a well written anime
Railgun is a spinoff of index, which I haven't seen, it's about this girl, misaka, who lives in this cool city where some people have powers and she is just one of the strongest. There is no real ovearching plot to railgun, there are different arcs and villains misaka must defeat but that's about it
railgun is a anime that is made to be able to run forever, you can just keep adding arcs and arcs until you get bored and then you put a big villain that makes reference to everything else and then for the defeat of them to mark the end of the show
the main cast is solid with the exception of kuroko, whose whole thing is that she is madly in love with misaka and she just constantly sexually harasseses her in a way that it's meant to be funny
there isn't much of character growth, in fact that's the biggest problem of the anime IMO. In some of the early arcs misaka gets in problems because she isn't very trusting of her friends, for in the end learn that they should trust them more and solve it for then to repeat it in following arcs. In fact starting s2 the story tries to kinda write off every character but miaska from the anime, which is interesting
the fanservice is also really bad, there is a lot of it and it adds nothing
having said all of that, I had fun and while I admit it's not very polished the clone arc of s2 felt cool enough for me. Placed in A rank.
It's a fun anime, but far from a well written anime
Railgun is a spinoff of index, which I haven't seen, it's about this girl, misaka, who lives in this cool city where some people have powers and she is just one of the strongest. There is no real ovearching plot to railgun, there are different arcs and villains misaka must defeat but that's about it
railgun is a anime that is made to be able to run forever, you can just keep adding arcs and arcs until you get bored and then you put a big villain that makes reference to everything else and then for the defeat of them to mark the end of the show
the main cast is solid with the exception of kuroko, whose whole thing is that she is madly in love with misaka and she just constantly sexually harasseses her in a way that it's meant to be funny
there isn't much of character growth, in fact that's the biggest problem of the anime IMO. In some of the early arcs misaka gets in problems because she isn't very trusting of her friends, for in the end learn that they should trust them more and solve it for then to repeat it in following arcs. In fact starting s2 the story tries to kinda write off every character but miaska from the anime, which is interesting
the fanservice is also really bad, there is a lot of it and it adds nothing
having said all of that, I had fun and while I admit it's not very polished the clone arc of s2 felt cool enough for me. Placed in A rank.
Speaking of the Toaru series. Have you done accelerator?Patatitta wrote:
Railgun:
It's a fun anime, but far from a well written anime
Railgun is a spinoff of index, which I haven't seen, it's about this girl, misaka, who lives in this cool city where some people have powers and she is just one of the strongest. There is no real ovearching plot to railgun, there are different arcs and villains misaka must defeat but that's about it
railgun is a anime that is made to be able to run forever, you can just keep adding arcs and arcs until you get bored and then you put a big villain that makes reference to everything else and then for the defeat of them to mark the end of the show
the main cast is solid with the exception of kuroko, whose whole thing is that she is madly in love with misaka and she just constantly sexually harasseses her in a way that it's meant to be funny
there isn't much of character growth, in fact that's the biggest problem of the anime IMO. In some of the early arcs misaka gets in problems because she isn't very trusting of her friends, for in the end learn that they should trust them more and solve it for then to repeat it in following arcs. In fact starting s2 the story tries to kinda write off every character but miaska from the anime, which is interesting
the fanservice is also really bad, there is a lot of it and it adds nothing
having said all of that, I had fun and while I admit it's not very polished the clone arc of s2 felt cool enough for me. Placed in A rank.
Topic Starter
I have only seen railgunRezq Gokou wrote:
Speaking of the Toaru series. Have you done accelerator?Patatitta wrote:
Railgun:
It's a fun anime, but far from a well written anime
Railgun is a spinoff of index, which I haven't seen, it's about this girl, misaka, who lives in this cool city where some people have powers and she is just one of the strongest. There is no real ovearching plot to railgun, there are different arcs and villains misaka must defeat but that's about it
railgun is a anime that is made to be able to run forever, you can just keep adding arcs and arcs until you get bored and then you put a big villain that makes reference to everything else and then for the defeat of them to mark the end of the show
the main cast is solid with the exception of kuroko, whose whole thing is that she is madly in love with misaka and she just constantly sexually harasseses her in a way that it's meant to be funny
there isn't much of character growth, in fact that's the biggest problem of the anime IMO. In some of the early arcs misaka gets in problems because she isn't very trusting of her friends, for in the end learn that they should trust them more and solve it for then to repeat it in following arcs. In fact starting s2 the story tries to kinda write off every character but miaska from the anime, which is interesting
the fanservice is also really bad, there is a lot of it and it adds nothing
having said all of that, I had fun and while I admit it's not very polished the clone arc of s2 felt cool enough for me. Placed in A rank.
I think it's worth it, I'm recommending Accelerator.Patatitta wrote:
I have only seen railgunRezq Gokou wrote:
Speaking of the Toaru series. Have you done accelerator?Patatitta wrote:
Railgun:
It's a fun anime, but far from a well written anime
Railgun is a spinoff of index, which I haven't seen, it's about this girl, misaka, who lives in this cool city where some people have powers and she is just one of the strongest. There is no real ovearching plot to railgun, there are different arcs and villains misaka must defeat but that's about it
railgun is a anime that is made to be able to run forever, you can just keep adding arcs and arcs until you get bored and then you put a big villain that makes reference to everything else and then for the defeat of them to mark the end of the show
the main cast is solid with the exception of kuroko, whose whole thing is that she is madly in love with misaka and she just constantly sexually harasseses her in a way that it's meant to be funny
there isn't much of character growth, in fact that's the biggest problem of the anime IMO. In some of the early arcs misaka gets in problems because she isn't very trusting of her friends, for in the end learn that they should trust them more and solve it for then to repeat it in following arcs. In fact starting s2 the story tries to kinda write off every character but miaska from the anime, which is interesting
the fanservice is also really bad, there is a lot of it and it adds nothing
having said all of that, I had fun and while I admit it's not very polished the clone arc of s2 felt cool enough for me. Placed in A rank.
Topic Starter
should I watch index firstBehrauder wrote:
I think it's worth it, I'm recommending Accelerator.Patatitta wrote:
I have only seen railgunRezq Gokou wrote:
Speaking of the Toaru series. Have you done accelerator?Patatitta wrote:
Railgun:
It's a fun anime, but far from a well written anime
Railgun is a spinoff of index, which I haven't seen, it's about this girl, misaka, who lives in this cool city where some people have powers and she is just one of the strongest. There is no real ovearching plot to railgun, there are different arcs and villains misaka must defeat but that's about it
railgun is a anime that is made to be able to run forever, you can just keep adding arcs and arcs until you get bored and then you put a big villain that makes reference to everything else and then for the defeat of them to mark the end of the show
the main cast is solid with the exception of kuroko, whose whole thing is that she is madly in love with misaka and she just constantly sexually harasseses her in a way that it's meant to be funny
there isn't much of character growth, in fact that's the biggest problem of the anime IMO. In some of the early arcs misaka gets in problems because she isn't very trusting of her friends, for in the end learn that they should trust them more and solve it for then to repeat it in following arcs. In fact starting s2 the story tries to kinda write off every character but miaska from the anime, which is interesting
the fanservice is also really bad, there is a lot of it and it adds nothing
having said all of that, I had fun and while I admit it's not very polished the clone arc of s2 felt cool enough for me. Placed in A rank.
Patatitta wrote:
should I watch index firstBehrauder wrote:
I think it's worth it, I'm recommending Accelerator.Patatitta wrote:
I have only seen railgunRezq Gokou wrote:
Speaking of the Toaru series. Have you done accelerator?Patatitta wrote:
Railgun:
It's a fun anime, but far from a well written anime
Railgun is a spinoff of index, which I haven't seen, it's about this girl, misaka, who lives in this cool city where some people have powers and she is just one of the strongest. There is no real ovearching plot to railgun, there are different arcs and villains misaka must defeat but that's about it
railgun is a anime that is made to be able to run forever, you can just keep adding arcs and arcs until you get bored and then you put a big villain that makes reference to everything else and then for the defeat of them to mark the end of the show
the main cast is solid with the exception of kuroko, whose whole thing is that she is madly in love with misaka and she just constantly sexually harasseses her in a way that it's meant to be funny
there isn't much of character growth, in fact that's the biggest problem of the anime IMO. In some of the early arcs misaka gets in problems because she isn't very trusting of her friends, for in the end learn that they should trust them more and solve it for then to repeat it in following arcs. In fact starting s2 the story tries to kinda write off every character but miaska from the anime, which is interesting
the fanservice is also really bad, there is a lot of it and it adds nothing
having said all of that, I had fun and while I admit it's not very polished the clone arc of s2 felt cool enough for me. Placed in A rank.
What I think:
If I'm not mistaken, you've already started watching in the "wrong order" (I don't know of any alternative order that begins with all three seasons of Railgun first, as this might make things more confusing later), so I'm not sure, but I don't remember Accelerator appearing much in Index (though I don’t remember much about the Toaru series). Index is a bit different and longer, so I think watching Accelerator now would be fine.
What ChatGPT thinks:
Since you've already watched all of Railgun, I think it's better to watch Index next. Accelerator does appear in Index, but his role is not as prominent at first. Index is longer and introduces key story elements, so watching it first will help you understand everything better. But if you really want to see more of Accelerator right now, you can watch his spin-off first—just keep in mind that Index II will provide more context for his story.
Summary: Your advice is not completely wrong, but it could lead to a confusing path. It would be better to recommend Index before Accelerator to keep the story more coherent. 🚀
Summary: Your advice is not completely wrong, but it could lead to a confusing path. It would be better to recommend Index before Accelerator to keep the story more coherent. 🚀
Topic Starter
okay I will watch accelerator without having seen index, and for the love of god please don't give me chatGPT recommendations in this thread I will waterboard you and your whole family
Patatitta wrote:
okay I will watch accelerator without having seen index, and for the love of god please don't give me chatGPT recommendations in this thread I will waterboard you and your whole family
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I don't care what chatGPT saysBehrauder wrote:
Patatitta wrote:
okay I will watch accelerator without having seen index, and for the love of god please don't give me chatGPT recommendations in this thread I will waterboard you and your whole familyChatGPT said that me recommending Accelerator before Index was a bad idea, but ok.
I don't think it would be much of a deal. You already watched railgun after allPatatitta wrote:
I don't care what chatGPT saysBehrauder wrote:
Patatitta wrote:
okay I will watch accelerator without having seen index, and for the love of god please don't give me chatGPT recommendations in this thread I will waterboard you and your whole familyChatGPT said that me recommending Accelerator before Index was a bad idea, but ok.
oops i saw 3-gatsu no lion mentioned and realized that was something i happened to watch and like a lot
i dont entirely remember why, though...
...the soundtrack is so tasty sometimes too oh goddd i forget the exact songs im thinking of but... there was one titled kinda like "black swamp"???? and two more that i dont remember at all but also included in music playlists
you may be recording thoughts on it anyway but this is a formal request to refresh my memory... unless it was requested earlier bc im that lazy rn
some parts outside the shogi matches confused me or felt hard to digest but i dont know exactly how/why/when, i just know it involved that one character and her dynamic w the protagonist, and then that one character near the end that the protagonist or the protagonist's mentor played(?) against
or maybe i misremembered which one that was
i dont entirely remember why, though...
...the soundtrack is so tasty sometimes too oh goddd i forget the exact songs im thinking of but... there was one titled kinda like "black swamp"???? and two more that i dont remember at all but also included in music playlists
you may be recording thoughts on it anyway but this is a formal request to refresh my memory... unless it was requested earlier bc im that lazy rn
some parts outside the shogi matches confused me or felt hard to digest but i dont know exactly how/why/when, i just know it involved that one character and her dynamic w the protagonist, and then that one character near the end that the protagonist or the protagonist's mentor played(?) against
or maybe i misremembered which one that was
Topic Starter
are you commenting on something? requesting the anime? requesting the manga? not very clearAchromalia wrote:
oops i saw 3-gatsu no lion mentioned and realized that was something i happened to watch and like a lot
i dont entirely remember why, though...
...the soundtrack is so tasty sometimes too oh goddd i forget the exact songs im thinking of but... there was one titled kinda like "black swamp"???? and two more that i dont remember at all but also included in music playlists
you may be recording thoughts on it anyway but this is a formal request to refresh my memory... unless it was requested earlier bc im that lazy rn
some parts outside the shogi matches confused me or felt hard to digest but i dont know exactly how/why/when, i just know it involved that one character and her dynamic w the protagonist, and then that one character near the end that the protagonist or the protagonist's mentor played(?) against
or maybe i misremembered which one that was
requesting the anime specifically bc thats what i watched ^^
"somethibg i ha0pened to watch" and "formally requesting" were intended to clear it up a little but the format (i assume?) was... not the clearest;;
"somethibg i ha0pened to watch" and "formally requesting" were intended to clear it up a little but the format (i assume?) was... not the clearest;;
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okay, noted, normally I would just ask to talk about the manga but given that you've requested that knowing that I had already read the manga I assume that wont fly
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Evoland 2:
ngl, it was dissapointing
Evoland 1 was a very short and sweet game where the game mechanics were consistently evolving (as the name implies) so it never overstayed it's welcome and constantly felt fresh, evoland 2 is a lot bigger in scope, it's longer and they had more of a budget, but I think a lot of what made evoland 1 good was lost in evoland 2
Evoland 2 doesn't share that same core idea of starting at retro gaming and moving into modern day, instead, it's closer to a chrono trigger inspired RPG, with the gimmick that it consistently changes it's playability with each section. You got your zelda type combat like in the first game, you also got your ATB combat which still fucking sucks ass I hate ATB but that is a lot more reduced, in top of that you throw in tactic combats like in fire emblem, shoot em up/bullet hell mode like in touhou, beat em up combat like streets of rage, etc
I don't dislike the playability of any of these modes (except atb), but as they're just short segments they don't really go indepth, this was also the case for evoland 1. If the section is going to be short and sweet you're not going to actually put all the complexity of fire emblem or a turn based combat as carefully designed as chained echoes, again, the problem is that in evoland 2 these sections are way longer, so that lack of depth and progression really start to hurt the game
it's also a lot more confusing, while evoland 1 was a very lineal game with every new unlock giving you a clue on what you need to do to move onto the next segment, evoland 2 doesn't have that same sense of direction now that you're not constantly unlocking mechanics. It doesn't help that at one point in the game you're just told you need to obtain 5 thingies and that you can tackle them in any order. Still, it's not as confusing where you MUST use a guide to understand how to progress, if you put in the time you will find the way forward no problem, but it's still enough of a inconvenience that for me it was just more fun to open up a guide
the plot is there, it exists, and it's way more of a focus than in evoland 2. It brings out a few interesting questions with the time travel stuff, problem is that they do their best to avoid answering the questions in a way that feel meaningful. For example, in the plot the future is fucked and the protagonist wants to change it, but the hero's party also has a member that is from the past, and from their pov the present of our protagonist is actually apocalyptic and they argue that they should the past to prevent their present. Problem is that in order for them to solve this fairly interesting point they just introduce a cosmic beyond-time big bad that everyone can agree that they must defeat. So that whole point of whose future should be preserved is just left in the dust
sadly placed in D tier, still, pretty good to get both evoland 1 and 2 out of my plan to play, thay had ben there for a couple years
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next: metro 2033
ngl, it was dissapointing
Evoland 1 was a very short and sweet game where the game mechanics were consistently evolving (as the name implies) so it never overstayed it's welcome and constantly felt fresh, evoland 2 is a lot bigger in scope, it's longer and they had more of a budget, but I think a lot of what made evoland 1 good was lost in evoland 2
Evoland 2 doesn't share that same core idea of starting at retro gaming and moving into modern day, instead, it's closer to a chrono trigger inspired RPG, with the gimmick that it consistently changes it's playability with each section. You got your zelda type combat like in the first game, you also got your ATB combat which still fucking sucks ass I hate ATB but that is a lot more reduced, in top of that you throw in tactic combats like in fire emblem, shoot em up/bullet hell mode like in touhou, beat em up combat like streets of rage, etc
I don't dislike the playability of any of these modes (except atb), but as they're just short segments they don't really go indepth, this was also the case for evoland 1. If the section is going to be short and sweet you're not going to actually put all the complexity of fire emblem or a turn based combat as carefully designed as chained echoes, again, the problem is that in evoland 2 these sections are way longer, so that lack of depth and progression really start to hurt the game
it's also a lot more confusing, while evoland 1 was a very lineal game with every new unlock giving you a clue on what you need to do to move onto the next segment, evoland 2 doesn't have that same sense of direction now that you're not constantly unlocking mechanics. It doesn't help that at one point in the game you're just told you need to obtain 5 thingies and that you can tackle them in any order. Still, it's not as confusing where you MUST use a guide to understand how to progress, if you put in the time you will find the way forward no problem, but it's still enough of a inconvenience that for me it was just more fun to open up a guide
the plot is there, it exists, and it's way more of a focus than in evoland 2. It brings out a few interesting questions with the time travel stuff, problem is that they do their best to avoid answering the questions in a way that feel meaningful. For example, in the plot the future is fucked and the protagonist wants to change it, but the hero's party also has a member that is from the past, and from their pov the present of our protagonist is actually apocalyptic and they argue that they should the past to prevent their present. Problem is that in order for them to solve this fairly interesting point they just introduce a cosmic beyond-time big bad that everyone can agree that they must defeat. So that whole point of whose future should be preserved is just left in the dust
sadly placed in D tier, still, pretty good to get both evoland 1 and 2 out of my plan to play, thay had ben there for a couple years
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next: metro 2033
Topic Starter
A Certain Scientific Accelerator
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bad
this is yet another spinoff of index (i've not seen index) which follows the character accelerator. In many ways this anime is a expanded version or a companion to what is IMO the best arc in railgun, which makes this all the more dissapointing
accelerator doesn't have a very strong cast of characters, accelerator by itself feels like a very plain character, it feels very two-dimensional, very "i'm borderline psychotic!" and that never changes, it's not as bad when it's a throaway villain in a action anime which is meant to run forever, like railgun, but when they're the main character, it's ehhhhh
and then you have the clones, which were interesting when combined with misaka, but on their own they don't have very much charm
the actual plot doesn't really do anythign particullary interesting, it doesn't raise questions or really try much at all, ot's mostly "look how strong accelerator is!" for 12 episodes
it's just a very plain, boring, forgettable anime
placed in d rank
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next: 3-gatsu no lion (anime)
have yet to start metro
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bad
this is yet another spinoff of index (i've not seen index) which follows the character accelerator. In many ways this anime is a expanded version or a companion to what is IMO the best arc in railgun, which makes this all the more dissapointing
accelerator doesn't have a very strong cast of characters, accelerator by itself feels like a very plain character, it feels very two-dimensional, very "i'm borderline psychotic!" and that never changes, it's not as bad when it's a throaway villain in a action anime which is meant to run forever, like railgun, but when they're the main character, it's ehhhhh
and then you have the clones, which were interesting when combined with misaka, but on their own they don't have very much charm
the actual plot doesn't really do anythign particullary interesting, it doesn't raise questions or really try much at all, ot's mostly "look how strong accelerator is!" for 12 episodes
it's just a very plain, boring, forgettable anime
placed in d rank
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next: 3-gatsu no lion (anime)
have yet to start metro
Baby Invasion… I just watched it… what the heck? Why do I love it?
Topic Starter
this?MangaGrumpy wrote:
Baby Invasion… I just watched it… what the heck? Why do I love it?
https://letterboxd.com/film/baby-invasion/
YesPatatitta wrote:
this?MangaGrumpy wrote:
Baby Invasion… I just watched it… what the heck? Why do I love it?
https://letterboxd.com/film/baby-invasion/
Topic Starter
it's by the director of gummo so idk what to expect, accepted
Topic Starter
Metro 2033
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like the sequel, but worse
I really don't have much to say, everything that applies to last light applies to this one, games are almost the same both in gameplay and graphically, the only thing that changes is the story, which is worse than in last light, mainly I just found very annoying all the times artyom was about to die only to be saved by something
morality system is still bad
Placed in B rank
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3-gatsu no lion
already had read the manga but I was requested to watch the anime
3-gatsu no lion is a anime about this child prodigy shogi trying to navigate life, having to manage school, family, friends, shogi, etc. It's a really beautiful and melancholic anime.
Whenever we hear about a child prodigy or whatever IRL we always make the (incorrect) assumption that they're going to have it easy in life, that they will only continue to improve, this anime argues that it's not true, that they may be smart at shogi but that doesn't mean life is any less complicated, that his position in lie is actively alienating and borderline detrimental in certain aspects. However the protagonist is never ungrateful for their life, they realize all of this, yet they don't reject is as they can see that every path in life will have it's own complications, it's just that theirs is a little bit more unique.
The anime has a strong focus on personal growth and realization. Every character in this anime is at a crossroads in life, they are at critical ages, they are leading with problems with deep ramifications, and how everyone leads with it and express their frustrations in different ways.
You are not meant to agree with every action taken by every character, in fact that is nearly impossible to do given that there are many conflicting viewpoints, but they make sure that you understand their thought process. The protagonist not only has very intense narration, but their thoughts are displayed in shogi. Shogi is a slow sport and extremely mental, so it fits really well with the tone of the anime. Add a little bit of storytelling magic and now you got very poetic matches that tie in with what every character is going through
This is not a new concept, 3-gatsu no lion isn't breaking new ground with this, sport anime has already been doing this for decades, I'm just pointing it works really well on 3-gatsu no lion
this anime doesn't really have a single message on what you should in life or what lessons it's trying to teach, but it's more inviting you to reflect and just think about things. How you interpret the situation and what lessons you take from everything is left up to the viewer.
now, a small complaint that I know it's just a me thing. In S2 there is a bullying arc, I feel it's meant to be very emotional and stuff but it just didn't hit for me. The anime up to that point hadn't been exactly emotional, the characters were going through emotional things yes, but me as the viewer, was looking at it thinking about the situation, trying to interpret it and learn from it, my emotions were not 1:1 the ones with the characters on screen. In that arc they pump the emotion up to 11, but I just couldn't get into it. This wasn't a anime I was watching with my guard down, the pacing was not there either, and whenever you see something that you know it's meant to be emotional but you don't really feel it just feels really bad
now as I said at the beginning, I have read the manga (it's still ongoing but i've read more than what is adapted so far), so how does it hold with the original material? In general it has a very different tone, the manga is very, very, very text heavy. It's in fact overwhelming, just having this complete avalanche of thoughts, having 3 different ongoing conversations in a single episode mixing narration, thought process and actual conversation. The anime is A LOT easier to watch than the manga is to read. This is neither positive or negative, it's just a different experience. Personally I enjoyed the manga more as I think it aligned more with the way I was reading it.
here are two manga pages to show what i'm taling about
it's a lot at first glance, it's in many ways borderline scary whenever you turn the page and see that
now for the animation, I think it was quite good, it has this more traditional japanese artstyle that I think really feets well with the central theme of shogi. The manga has really good paneling as well but that as we know can't be translated into anime.
I think it was quite good even if I enjoyed it a little bit less than the manga, A rank.
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next: metro exodus and baby invasion
however, there is a problem with metro exodus. I need to do some testing but I think my PC can't run the game, I will try now but if it's true I can't run the game I will be forced to drop it
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like the sequel, but worse
I really don't have much to say, everything that applies to last light applies to this one, games are almost the same both in gameplay and graphically, the only thing that changes is the story, which is worse than in last light, mainly I just found very annoying all the times artyom was about to die only to be saved by something
morality system is still bad
Placed in B rank
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3-gatsu no lion
already had read the manga but I was requested to watch the anime
3-gatsu no lion is a anime about this child prodigy shogi trying to navigate life, having to manage school, family, friends, shogi, etc. It's a really beautiful and melancholic anime.
Whenever we hear about a child prodigy or whatever IRL we always make the (incorrect) assumption that they're going to have it easy in life, that they will only continue to improve, this anime argues that it's not true, that they may be smart at shogi but that doesn't mean life is any less complicated, that his position in lie is actively alienating and borderline detrimental in certain aspects. However the protagonist is never ungrateful for their life, they realize all of this, yet they don't reject is as they can see that every path in life will have it's own complications, it's just that theirs is a little bit more unique.
The anime has a strong focus on personal growth and realization. Every character in this anime is at a crossroads in life, they are at critical ages, they are leading with problems with deep ramifications, and how everyone leads with it and express their frustrations in different ways.
You are not meant to agree with every action taken by every character, in fact that is nearly impossible to do given that there are many conflicting viewpoints, but they make sure that you understand their thought process. The protagonist not only has very intense narration, but their thoughts are displayed in shogi. Shogi is a slow sport and extremely mental, so it fits really well with the tone of the anime. Add a little bit of storytelling magic and now you got very poetic matches that tie in with what every character is going through
This is not a new concept, 3-gatsu no lion isn't breaking new ground with this, sport anime has already been doing this for decades, I'm just pointing it works really well on 3-gatsu no lion
this anime doesn't really have a single message on what you should in life or what lessons it's trying to teach, but it's more inviting you to reflect and just think about things. How you interpret the situation and what lessons you take from everything is left up to the viewer.
now, a small complaint that I know it's just a me thing. In S2 there is a bullying arc, I feel it's meant to be very emotional and stuff but it just didn't hit for me. The anime up to that point hadn't been exactly emotional, the characters were going through emotional things yes, but me as the viewer, was looking at it thinking about the situation, trying to interpret it and learn from it, my emotions were not 1:1 the ones with the characters on screen. In that arc they pump the emotion up to 11, but I just couldn't get into it. This wasn't a anime I was watching with my guard down, the pacing was not there either, and whenever you see something that you know it's meant to be emotional but you don't really feel it just feels really bad
now as I said at the beginning, I have read the manga (it's still ongoing but i've read more than what is adapted so far), so how does it hold with the original material? In general it has a very different tone, the manga is very, very, very text heavy. It's in fact overwhelming, just having this complete avalanche of thoughts, having 3 different ongoing conversations in a single episode mixing narration, thought process and actual conversation. The anime is A LOT easier to watch than the manga is to read. This is neither positive or negative, it's just a different experience. Personally I enjoyed the manga more as I think it aligned more with the way I was reading it.
here are two manga pages to show what i'm taling about
it's a lot at first glance, it's in many ways borderline scary whenever you turn the page and see that
now for the animation, I think it was quite good, it has this more traditional japanese artstyle that I think really feets well with the central theme of shogi. The manga has really good paneling as well but that as we know can't be translated into anime.
I think it was quite good even if I enjoyed it a little bit less than the manga, A rank.
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next: metro exodus and baby invasion
however, there is a problem with metro exodus. I need to do some testing but I think my PC can't run the game, I will try now but if it's true I can't run the game I will be forced to drop it
Topic Starter
update: yeah no I can't run metro exodus, skipping to the next: This War of Mine
Topic Starter
baby invasion
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Baby Invasion is a experimental movie made gummo's director Harmony Korine. The gimmick of this movie is that it's some sort of gameplay for a hyper realistic videogame called "Baby Invasion", in this game it's not very clear what you do. The movie is essentially plotless, this is a vibes movie.
The movie is just this guy walking around with a first person, fish eye lens camera attached to the head POV, with 4:3 screen resolution, random twitch chat overlapping and facecam appearing and disappearing at random intervals.
This movie fundamentally doesn't understend gaming, streaming or the internet. First of all, the game (and the movie in general) is really fucking boring, whenever you say you want a hyperrealistic game, what follows after is usually hyperviolence, of which this movie has little. So the fact that this would even have a audience of twitch chat members is honestly unrealistic
secondly, this chat is in russian, japanese, english and spanish, I only speak the later two languages, but i'm pretty sure the spanish comments are either created by chatGPT or google translate. The way this is written is like a film/book guy trying to write twitch chat, not how twitch chat actually is or how people in the internet actually speak.
I say chatGPT because this movie already uses AI extensively to cover the face of the actors and for a couple extra things
Another thing that annoys me is that the movie, the gameplay has cuts, but the chat is uninterrupted, if this is another vibes choices I don't get it
the actual "game" also has minigames and shit in it, in general it's just again, all vibes but completely and utterly nonsensical
One point of the movie is that it's so realistic that you can't know if it's a videogame or reality, which would be a interesting point if they did anything with it
to finish off, I read the wikipedia article on this movie and found this interesting paragraph
placed on how could you do this to me tier
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nothing else to watch, going to keep playing this war of mine now, already tried 30 minutes but it isn't hitting, let's see if I can get into it or not
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Baby Invasion is a experimental movie made gummo's director Harmony Korine. The gimmick of this movie is that it's some sort of gameplay for a hyper realistic videogame called "Baby Invasion", in this game it's not very clear what you do. The movie is essentially plotless, this is a vibes movie.
The movie is just this guy walking around with a first person, fish eye lens camera attached to the head POV, with 4:3 screen resolution, random twitch chat overlapping and facecam appearing and disappearing at random intervals.
This movie fundamentally doesn't understend gaming, streaming or the internet. First of all, the game (and the movie in general) is really fucking boring, whenever you say you want a hyperrealistic game, what follows after is usually hyperviolence, of which this movie has little. So the fact that this would even have a audience of twitch chat members is honestly unrealistic
secondly, this chat is in russian, japanese, english and spanish, I only speak the later two languages, but i'm pretty sure the spanish comments are either created by chatGPT or google translate. The way this is written is like a film/book guy trying to write twitch chat, not how twitch chat actually is or how people in the internet actually speak.
I say chatGPT because this movie already uses AI extensively to cover the face of the actors and for a couple extra things
Another thing that annoys me is that the movie, the gameplay has cuts, but the chat is uninterrupted, if this is another vibes choices I don't get it
the actual "game" also has minigames and shit in it, in general it's just again, all vibes but completely and utterly nonsensical
One point of the movie is that it's so realistic that you can't know if it's a videogame or reality, which would be a interesting point if they did anything with it
to finish off, I read the wikipedia article on this movie and found this interesting paragraph
I have no wordswikipedia wrote:
Baby Invasion premiered out of competition at the 81st Venice International Film Festival on August 31, 2024.[1] During the Venice press conference, Korine sat next to visual effects artist Joao Rosa and fellow filmmaker Gaspar Noé, who was wearing a neon green mask, and smoked a cigar, causing smoke to fill the conference room. He expressed that "Hollywood ... would be smart to — encourage the youth, the kids. Why we're starting to see Hollywood crumble creatively is because they’re losing a lot of the most creative minds to gaming and to streaming. They're so locked in on convention and then all those kids who are so creative are now just going to find other pathways and go to other places because movies are no longer the dominant art form." He also revealed that, "When we release the film, there'll be a way to watch it through your phone, but there'll be certain codes within the movie that'll take you to other movies. So the film, what you're seeing, is just a base layer film. There'll be three or four other sub films."[5]
placed on how could you do this to me tier
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nothing else to watch, going to keep playing this war of mine now, already tried 30 minutes but it isn't hitting, let's see if I can get into it or not
Topic Starter
this war of mine (dropped)
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sadly could not get into it
this war of mine is a resource management game about the horrors of war. You manage a small refugee colony inside a warzone, during the day yo ueat and craft, during the night you scavange for resoruces. The game is heavily random, it's unfair, it's a bad experience, but this is on purpouse, as war is like this
my problem is the gameplay. You're in a refugee situation, it's meant to be tense and awful and scary, this game is not doing that for me, I don't feel tension, I kinda just feel... bored, I know it's probably heartless of me but I don't think the gameplay is doing a good job of getting me into that state of mind it seeks. The day segments involve a lot of waiting, and so far it's not like i'm running out of time to do whatever I need to do, the night segment are a bit better but savescumming is way too powerful as you can restart from the beginning of the day without much cost, and you can keep rerolling until the RNG is good enough and you find a good enough route
you may say "well then just stop savescumming" but honestly, what's the difference between restarting a single day and restarting the whole playthrough?, the second one takes more time, but that's about it, in both cases you're just rerolling until you learn of a good route and get good RNG
it's a shame because this company/studio actually made my favourite resource managing game, frostpunk, which actually completely solves this problem, it's extremely tense and feels frustrating just in the right way, you think you're doing so good and then everything goes to shit, with frostpunk savescumming does not work since it's often mistakes you did like an hour ago biting you in the ass now, so you're meant to start a new playthrough, however the difference between one playthrough and the next is massive, as there is A LOT more of a learning curve and optimization than this war of mine
placed in D rank
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next: bastion
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sadly could not get into it
this war of mine is a resource management game about the horrors of war. You manage a small refugee colony inside a warzone, during the day yo ueat and craft, during the night you scavange for resoruces. The game is heavily random, it's unfair, it's a bad experience, but this is on purpouse, as war is like this
my problem is the gameplay. You're in a refugee situation, it's meant to be tense and awful and scary, this game is not doing that for me, I don't feel tension, I kinda just feel... bored, I know it's probably heartless of me but I don't think the gameplay is doing a good job of getting me into that state of mind it seeks. The day segments involve a lot of waiting, and so far it's not like i'm running out of time to do whatever I need to do, the night segment are a bit better but savescumming is way too powerful as you can restart from the beginning of the day without much cost, and you can keep rerolling until the RNG is good enough and you find a good enough route
you may say "well then just stop savescumming" but honestly, what's the difference between restarting a single day and restarting the whole playthrough?, the second one takes more time, but that's about it, in both cases you're just rerolling until you learn of a good route and get good RNG
it's a shame because this company/studio actually made my favourite resource managing game, frostpunk, which actually completely solves this problem, it's extremely tense and feels frustrating just in the right way, you think you're doing so good and then everything goes to shit, with frostpunk savescumming does not work since it's often mistakes you did like an hour ago biting you in the ass now, so you're meant to start a new playthrough, however the difference between one playthrough and the next is massive, as there is A LOT more of a learning curve and optimization than this war of mine
placed in D rank
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next: bastion
play lsd dream emulator until you get tired because you aint beating that
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idk, I already did yume nikki and I don't think i'km going to have that different of thoughts, also, it's not exactly the type of game I coverReyalp51 wrote:
play lsd dream emulator until you get tired because you aint beating that
tobacco, a book by dimitar dimov. if you happen to find 2 versions of the book by chance, go with the 1 tome version
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acceptedburgernfat wrote:
tobacco, a book by dimitar dimov. if you happen to find 2 versions of the book by chance, go with the 1 tome version
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I am completely unable to find a copy, if you manage to locate one in either spanish or english please dm me itPatatitta wrote:
acceptedburgernfat wrote:
tobacco, a book by dimitar dimov. if you happen to find 2 versions of the book by chance, go with the 1 tome version
Might become pretty busy over the next couple weeks so just dropping in to dump my suggestions. Scoured for a bit, feel free to pick and choose whichever ones you want:
- My child Lebensborn
- In Stars and Time
- Before Your Eyes
- Brothers a Tale of Two Sons
- Grim Fandango
- Spiritfarer
- Oxenfree
- Transistor
- Return of the Obra Dinn
- LISA: The Painful
- Blasphemous
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In stars and time is my favourite videogame, may talk about it if i'm feeling like itTeeArctic1 wrote:
Might become pretty busy over the next couple weeks so just dropping in to dump my suggestions. Scoured for a bit, feel free to pick and choose whichever ones you want:Hopefully some of them pique your interest
- My child Lebensborn
- In Stars and Time
- Before Your Eyes
- Brothers a Tale of Two Sons
- Grim Fandango
- Spiritfarer
- Oxenfree
- Transistor
- Return of the Obra Dinn
- LISA: The Painful
- Blasphemous
lisa is already reviewed
blasphemous I already played, met one of the devs at a convention once in fact
spiritfarer I have already played
I may probably add transistor to the queue since i'm really enjoying bastion and they are made by the same company
Grim fandango is great, never finished it but loved it.
onimai.
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are you being serious?tapperruiii wrote:
onimai.
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Bastion
Solid game
Bastion is the first game by supergiant games, this game was a hit on it's own right, but they're mostly known today as the creators of hades, (fantastic game btw).
The gampeplay is actually not that different from hades, they're both relatively fast paced action games where you unlock a lot of new weapons and fighting styles with a fair ammount of metaprogression, the difference is that hades is a roguelike and this isn't. This game actually just features a very traditional, very tipical level selection screen
there isn't that much in terms to plot to go through, while there is a plot, It's not really the focus, I feel the point was the combat, which was fun
ost is pretty solid, I actually had listened to that last song somewhere before and I was like "holy shit so this is where it comes from"
I don't really have much to say about the game in general, it was fun, I enjoyed, not the type of game I would usually cover in this thread but since I knew I was going to finish it anyways, eh, why not
placed in B rank
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next: transistor, I want to clear out the supergiant catalogue
Solid game
Bastion is the first game by supergiant games, this game was a hit on it's own right, but they're mostly known today as the creators of hades, (fantastic game btw).
The gampeplay is actually not that different from hades, they're both relatively fast paced action games where you unlock a lot of new weapons and fighting styles with a fair ammount of metaprogression, the difference is that hades is a roguelike and this isn't. This game actually just features a very traditional, very tipical level selection screen
there isn't that much in terms to plot to go through, while there is a plot, It's not really the focus, I feel the point was the combat, which was fun
ost is pretty solid, I actually had listened to that last song somewhere before and I was like "holy shit so this is where it comes from"
I don't really have much to say about the game in general, it was fun, I enjoyed, not the type of game I would usually cover in this thread but since I knew I was going to finish it anyways, eh, why not
placed in B rank
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next: transistor, I want to clear out the supergiant catalogue
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Transistor
pleasently surprised, good game
Another game by supergiant games, creators of bastion, the previous game I covered. This game is about this singer girl who picks up a super cool technological sword that gives her powers and it's her duty to restore the world, funny that both bastion and this are about restoring the world
the game is once again, a top down hack and slash, however this is more original than bastion and I would even say more original than hades, the game by itself is very fast, you're going to be overwhelmed easily, but you can quite literally stop time, planify your moves and then do a perfect sequence, and you can do that on a cooldown, I really liked this, adds more tactical depth to the combats above just "go hit things very fast very hard"
the skill system is also generally pretty genius, you have 4 ability slots and a lot of skill functions, every skill function can also be applied as a mod for another function or as a passive. Most of these effects aren't very different to what the base attack does, so you can just have the skill of shooting a laser with the debuff and damage of the melee attack, which makes it fairly well balanced
now for me the best part is how they force you to make lots of different builds. If everything is well balanced and new skills don't power creep, how do you encourage the player to experiment?, in this game, after you lose all your health, you don't die, instead, you regen to max health BUT you lose a function you're currently using, and that function won't be available until 2 checkpoints later. Meaning, you once again have to go to the drawing board and design a new build
it's hard to die, but at the same time the is tension because you don't want to lose your super cool build, but again, not losing makes it not very likely that you lose progress, which feels bad
now, having said that, I kinda wish the game was harder. The game has this thing called limiters that you can use to buff enemies, kinda how you can increase the difficulty of your runs in hades or how you can buff enemies in bastion, this carries with itself a xp boost but honestly it's so small that if you turn it on it's mostly because of you wanting a harder difficulty
even with all my available limiters on, the game was really never that hard, so for me to lose a function was difficult and only happened a few times during the playthrough, I wish I was forced to experiment even harder. Bastion defenitively felt like a harder game, I didn't go all blessings on that game, but that also may just be me being better at strategy than real time action combat
The game is also very short, I beat it in only 3 days playing maybe a hour and a half each day, which, honestly good length
I really don't have much to comment on the story, it's cleary not the focus and everything in terms of worldbuilding and plot is very limited
ost is good as usual
placed on A rank
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i'm going to be playing Pyre to finish out the SuperGiant games library but since that hasn't been requested i'm not going to cover it, going to label the queue as empty for now
pleasently surprised, good game
Another game by supergiant games, creators of bastion, the previous game I covered. This game is about this singer girl who picks up a super cool technological sword that gives her powers and it's her duty to restore the world, funny that both bastion and this are about restoring the world
the game is once again, a top down hack and slash, however this is more original than bastion and I would even say more original than hades, the game by itself is very fast, you're going to be overwhelmed easily, but you can quite literally stop time, planify your moves and then do a perfect sequence, and you can do that on a cooldown, I really liked this, adds more tactical depth to the combats above just "go hit things very fast very hard"
the skill system is also generally pretty genius, you have 4 ability slots and a lot of skill functions, every skill function can also be applied as a mod for another function or as a passive. Most of these effects aren't very different to what the base attack does, so you can just have the skill of shooting a laser with the debuff and damage of the melee attack, which makes it fairly well balanced
now for me the best part is how they force you to make lots of different builds. If everything is well balanced and new skills don't power creep, how do you encourage the player to experiment?, in this game, after you lose all your health, you don't die, instead, you regen to max health BUT you lose a function you're currently using, and that function won't be available until 2 checkpoints later. Meaning, you once again have to go to the drawing board and design a new build
it's hard to die, but at the same time the is tension because you don't want to lose your super cool build, but again, not losing makes it not very likely that you lose progress, which feels bad
now, having said that, I kinda wish the game was harder. The game has this thing called limiters that you can use to buff enemies, kinda how you can increase the difficulty of your runs in hades or how you can buff enemies in bastion, this carries with itself a xp boost but honestly it's so small that if you turn it on it's mostly because of you wanting a harder difficulty
even with all my available limiters on, the game was really never that hard, so for me to lose a function was difficult and only happened a few times during the playthrough, I wish I was forced to experiment even harder. Bastion defenitively felt like a harder game, I didn't go all blessings on that game, but that also may just be me being better at strategy than real time action combat
The game is also very short, I beat it in only 3 days playing maybe a hour and a half each day, which, honestly good length
I really don't have much to comment on the story, it's cleary not the focus and everything in terms of worldbuilding and plot is very limited
ost is good as usual
placed on A rank
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i'm going to be playing Pyre to finish out the SuperGiant games library but since that hasn't been requested i'm not going to cover it, going to label the queue as empty for now
ooooo I remem playing this game back in 2014. I liked the deco vibesPatatitta wrote:
Transistor
pleasently surprised, good game
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ngl I think the "deco vibes" actively retracted from my experience because i'm studying IT and this game is all about technology and that sort of stuff and like the skills are functions and are written like a function so I come back tired from thinking about code and then I Breach(); and I go fuck offabraker wrote:
ooooo I remem playing this game back in 2014. I liked the deco vibesPatatitta wrote:
Transistor
pleasently surprised, good game
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The Dry
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not very strong opinions about this one
this movie is your typical obsessive detective investigates murder in small town, it really does not do anything that you haven't seen alerady a bunch of times, it's more of the same for people who are into that. It's quiet and slow to give this feeling of complexity and drama but it doesn't really say anything particullary deep
the biggest attraction of this movie is that it's a australian movie about australia, but i'm not australian so idk
placed in C rank
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not very strong opinions about this one
this movie is your typical obsessive detective investigates murder in small town, it really does not do anything that you haven't seen alerady a bunch of times, it's more of the same for people who are into that. It's quiet and slow to give this feeling of complexity and drama but it doesn't really say anything particullary deep
the biggest attraction of this movie is that it's a australian movie about australia, but i'm not australian so idk
placed in C rank
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sureKarmine wrote:
The Hollow Point
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The Hollow Point
I completely forgot to write about this movie, I think that showcases my thoughts on this perfectly
It's just bad, it features a very simple and unoriginal western story, with some famous actors on it but that's about it, while the actors themselves are famous the general level of acting in this movie is pretty bad and idk I think i've already forgotten about the plot of this movie
how did you even discover this movie/why did you think of requesting it?
placed in D rank
I completely forgot to write about this movie, I think that showcases my thoughts on this perfectly
It's just bad, it features a very simple and unoriginal western story, with some famous actors on it but that's about it, while the actors themselves are famous the general level of acting in this movie is pretty bad and idk I think i've already forgotten about the plot of this movie
how did you even discover this movie/why did you think of requesting it?
placed in D rank
Tbh I mostly forgot about it too lol I don't know why I randomly remembered it.
It's not that bad though.
It's not that bad though.
The Caricature of Reincarnation (manga)
this is my first manga i read (it's just a random manga my brother found at the book store), and i hate it but keep reading it for no reason. anyway i can guess your rating (it's C or B)
this is my first manga i read (it's just a random manga my brother found at the book store), and i hate it but keep reading it for no reason. anyway i can guess your rating (it's C or B)
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this?, if it's that one, then it's not fully scanlated, so I can't really read itreffty_gag wrote:
The Caricature of Reincarnation (manga)
this is my first manga i read (it's just a random manga my brother found at the book store), and i hate it but keep reading it for no reason. anyway i can guess your rating (it's C or B)
its ok brothaPatatitta wrote:
this?, if it's that one, then it's not fully scanlated, so I can't really read itreffty_gag wrote:
The Caricature of Reincarnation (manga)
this is my first manga i read (it's just a random manga my brother found at the book store), and i hate it but keep reading it for no reason. anyway i can guess your rating (it's C or B)
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already watched flcl not too fond of it will write later and also will watch lycoris