Patatitta wrote:

xch00F wrote:

any one of the following castlevanias:
dawn of sorrow
portrait of ruin
order of ecclesia

recently picked up the dominus collection and have been playing thru them, interested in what you think

please finish the games before requesting, also idk if i'm willing to do castlevania, not exactly narrative driven

I've played thru all of them when they came out
o well

Patatitta wrote:

mizu_chuu wrote:

your choice but its a really good mod considering it takes place 3 days before the incident

dont think I will be covering it

sad

Living with Sister: Monochrome Fantasy is a sleeper hit you got no idea.

tapperruiii wrote:

Living with Sister: Monochrome Fantasy is a sleeper hit you got no idea.

actually banned from this thread

milk inside a bag of milk

this is a very short vn about mental health problems, it feels bad to talk about this type of games as they often tend to be very personal and basically biographical skipped most of this games, but I do have to say something about tis, so I will keep this short

there is a voice that talks to this character, this voice is supposed to not be real, the voice is the narrator of the game, it's supposed to represent the protagonist subconcious. However, there is a part in this game where it breaks the fourth wall, probably because the dev thought it was cool, which completely breaks the message of the story because we're real so that means that they're not schizo but that they're actually right which wouldn't make a mental illness so like what the fuck

not placed on tier list

Patatitta wrote:

milk inside a bag of milk

this is a very short vn about mental health problems, it feels bad to talk about this type of games as they often tend to be very personal and basically biographical skipped most of this games, but I do have to say something about tis, so I will keep this short

there is a voice that talks to this character, this voice is supposed to not be real, the voice is the narrator of the game, it's supposed to represent the protagonist subconcious. However, there is a part in this game where it breaks the fourth wall, probably because the dev thought it was cool, which completely breaks the message of the story because we're real so that means that they're not schizo but that they're actually right which wouldn't make a mental illness so like what the fuck

not placed on tier list

"not placed on tier list" 🔫

Kobold84 wrote:

Read Jin (the manga).

wait, actually cant do this, there is no english/spanish version, it cuts off less than halfway through

Patatitta wrote:

milk inside a bag of milk

this is a very short vn about mental health problems, it feels bad to talk about this type of games as they often tend to be very personal and basically biographical skipped most of this games, but I do have to say something about tis, so I will keep this short

there is a voice that talks to this character, this voice is supposed to not be real, the voice is the narrator of the game, it's supposed to represent the protagonist subconcious. However, there is a part in this game where it breaks the fourth wall, probably because the dev thought it was cool, which completely breaks the message of the story because we're real so that means that they're not schizo but that they're actually right which wouldn't make a mental illness so like what the fuck

not placed on tier list

I haven't played the game myself and I could see why that breaks the narrative actually. Sometimes 4th wall breaking is actually not really necessary or even break the story like this.

Maybe read the Team Fortress 2 comic (mainline) since they released the final issue of it quite recently.

Rezq Gokou wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

milk inside a bag of milk

this is a very short vn about mental health problems, it feels bad to talk about this type of games as they often tend to be very personal and basically biographical skipped most of this games, but I do have to say something about tis, so I will keep this short

there is a voice that talks to this character, this voice is supposed to not be real, the voice is the narrator of the game, it's supposed to represent the protagonist subconcious. However, there is a part in this game where it breaks the fourth wall, probably because the dev thought it was cool, which completely breaks the message of the story because we're real so that means that they're not schizo but that they're actually right which wouldn't make a mental illness so like what the fuck

not placed on tier list

I haven't played the game myself and I could see why that breaks the narrative actually. Sometimes 4th wall breaking is actually not really necessary or even break the story like this.

Maybe read the Team Fortress 2 comic (mainline) since they released the final issue of it quite recently.

PLEASE play the games you're doing before requesting, it's required for the thread, if I had knows you had not played it I would have denied it

also, I already rejected the TF2 comics

Patatitta wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

milk inside a bag of milk

this is a very short vn about mental health problems, it feels bad to talk about this type of games as they often tend to be very personal and basically biographical skipped most of this games, but I do have to say something about tis, so I will keep this short

there is a voice that talks to this character, this voice is supposed to not be real, the voice is the narrator of the game, it's supposed to represent the protagonist subconcious. However, there is a part in this game where it breaks the fourth wall, probably because the dev thought it was cool, which completely breaks the message of the story because we're real so that means that they're not schizo but that they're actually right which wouldn't make a mental illness so like what the fuck

not placed on tier list

I haven't played the game myself and I could see why that breaks the narrative actually. Sometimes 4th wall breaking is actually not really necessary or even break the story like this.

Maybe read the Team Fortress 2 comic (mainline) since they released the final issue of it quite recently.

PLEASE play the games you're doing before requesting, it's required for the thread, if I had knows you had not played it I would have denied it

also, I already rejected the TF2 comics

sorry, but it was not stated in the original post.

Also, may I ask why the TF2 comics got rejected?

Rezq Gokou wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

milk inside a bag of milk

this is a very short vn about mental health problems, it feels bad to talk about this type of games as they often tend to be very personal and basically biographical skipped most of this games, but I do have to say something about tis, so I will keep this short

there is a voice that talks to this character, this voice is supposed to not be real, the voice is the narrator of the game, it's supposed to represent the protagonist subconcious. However, there is a part in this game where it breaks the fourth wall, probably because the dev thought it was cool, which completely breaks the message of the story because we're real so that means that they're not schizo but that they're actually right which wouldn't make a mental illness so like what the fuck

not placed on tier list

I haven't played the game myself and I could see why that breaks the narrative actually. Sometimes 4th wall breaking is actually not really necessary or even break the story like this.

Maybe read the Team Fortress 2 comic (mainline) since they released the final issue of it quite recently.

PLEASE play the games you're doing before requesting, it's required for the thread, if I had knows you had not played it I would have denied it

also, I already rejected the TF2 comics

sorry, but it was not stated in the original post.

Also, may I ask why the TF2 comics got rejected?

tf2 comics are basically fanservice for the tf2 playerbase, not things that work standalone

Patatitta wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Read Jin (the manga).

wait, actually cant do this, there is no english/spanish version, it cuts off less than halfway through

Must be due to the copyright issues. If you want, I can get you a totally legit copy of it.

Kobold84 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Read Jin (the manga).

wait, actually cant do this, there is no english/spanish version, it cuts off less than halfway through

Must be due to the copyright issues. If you want, I can get you a totally legit copy of it.

does it have a complete physical release in a language I can undertand that you own that you can digitalize?, also, I don't think it's copyright, I think the scanlator group just died and no one picked the manga up to continue translating it

Patatitta wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Read Jin (the manga).

wait, actually cant do this, there is no english/spanish version, it cuts off less than halfway through

Must be due to the copyright issues. If you want, I can get you a totally legit copy of it.

does it have a complete physical release in a language I can undertand that you own that you can digitalize?, also, I don't think it's copyright, I think the scanlator group just died and no one picked the manga up to continue translating it

The manga was officially translated and it's on the creator's patreon in full digital version. I suppose it's also easy to find elsewhere for free as it often happens.

Kobold84 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Read Jin (the manga).

wait, actually cant do this, there is no english/spanish version, it cuts off less than halfway through

Must be due to the copyright issues. If you want, I can get you a totally legit copy of it.

does it have a complete physical release in a language I can undertand that you own that you can digitalize?, also, I don't think it's copyright, I think the scanlator group just died and no one picked the manga up to continue translating it

The manga was officially translated and it's on the creator's patreon in full digital version. I suppose it's also easy to find elsewhere for free as it often happens.

Was a little bit of a pain but found it, will read

have you seen https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-8980

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have you seen https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-8980

not doing scps

watch gushing over magical girls

Reyalp51 wrote:

watch gushing over magical girls

not doing ecchi

will you do psychological horror (I know you said you won't do horror, but some people don't like horror but like psychological horror) and ARG?

Rezq Gokou wrote:

will you do psychological horror (I know you said you won't do horror, but some people don't like horror but like psychological horror) and ARG?

1- I do this by case by case basis but generally no
2- I dislike ARGS, I want things that I can experience for myself, not have to have youtube videos about it.

play opus magnum

z0z wrote:

play opus magnum

shoutout to zachtronics but like i'm ass at puzzle games also it's not a narrative game so I probably wouldn't have much to say so not doing this

what about the mandela catalogue

mizu_chuu wrote:

what about the mandela catalogue

youtube horror series with some ARG stuff that is kinda made with the idea of people making "explained" videos on it so yeah not doing that

edit: I didn't feel the need to do this as we've gone through 260 things without much problem but given the recent streak of me denying everything I'm going to update the OP to reflect what I accept and what I do not

can you review the pizza from your local pizza place

xch00F wrote:

can you review the pizza from your local pizza place

denied

the pizza's that bad, huh

review pineapple on pizza (the game)
its really short

Reyalp51 wrote:

review pineapple on pizza (the game)
its really short

I think you already requested it and I already denied it

Patatitta wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

review pineapple on pizza (the game)
its really short

I think you already requested it and I already denied it

no way wtf

Reyalp51 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

review pineapple on pizza (the game)
its really short

I think you already requested it and I already denied it

no way wtf

nvm you didn't, still, denied

read Cipher Academy, it's written by the same author as the Monogatari Series. Though I would say it is not as good as Monogatari but still enjoyable. No, it's not ecchi

Rezq Gokou wrote:

read Cipher Academy, it's written by the same author as the Monogatari Series. Though I would say it is not as good as Monogatari but still enjoyable. No, it's not ecchi

that's a low bar since I already didn't vibe with monogatari, tho will probably read it. Is it this one?

edit:

i'm in for a bad time

Patatitta wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

read Cipher Academy, it's written by the same author as the Monogatari Series. Though I would say it is not as good as Monogatari but still enjoyable. No, it's not ecchi

that's a low bar since I already didn't vibe with monogatari, tho will probably read it. Is it this one?

edit:

i'm in for a bad time

yes. I mean it's very different from how Monogatari was written.

Rezq Gokou wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

read Cipher Academy, it's written by the same author as the Monogatari Series. Though I would say it is not as good as Monogatari but still enjoyable. No, it's not ecchi

that's a low bar since I already didn't vibe with monogatari, tho will probably read it. Is it this one?

edit:

i'm in for a bad time

yes. I mean it's very different from how Monogatari was written.

will read

Daybreak on hyperion webnovel at https://samaran-daybreak.com/ go to page 11 for start webnovel or go to daybreak on hyperion at the top of the page

tapperruiii wrote:

Daybreak on hyperion webnovel at https://samaran-daybreak.com/ go to page 11 for start webnovel or go to daybreak on hyperion at the top of the page

this seems like it's ongoing right?

Jin

Took a while but finished it

This is a medical drama where a doctor from the year 2000 (modern day at the time of writing the manga) got transported into the 19th century with their current medical knowledge, becoming a miracle worker and changing history in the process.

It's a cool concept, I haven't read much medical dramas, (honestly I think this is the first one (no monster does not count)), and I think the whole medical aspect to it was really well done. I don't know the accuracy of the actual medicine shown in the manga, but it does feels tense when it needs to be, repulsive when it needs to be, and generally seems to treat medicine with a lot of respect

This manga also explores how modern medicine clashes with some old cultural values and how in many ways that culture was toxic to medical advances. It also goes in depth about the invention and general spread of penicilin

The art is pretty solid, specially for a manga that started serialization in the year 2000, I think it holds up pretty well.

My problems with the manga arise with everything not relating to medicine. While there is a overarching plot of understanding time travel and stuff, the pacing on it is very bad and it isn't nearly as explored or treated with the same respect that medicine is shown in the manga.

It's also a 20 volume manga, it's pretty lenghthy, and it ends up following your classical arc structure, where there are different self contained stories that while carry some connection with each other and character growth and stuff they're mostly self-contained. It's only on the ending of each arc that the overarching plot really advances

So yeah, amazing as a medical drama but don't know if I would recommend it outside that placed in B tier

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next: Angou Gakuen no Iroha

will update OP tomorrow i'm sleepy

did you ever get around to watching the look back movie? i know it's available in streaming services now and i remember you were anticipating that one when I had you review the manga

(definitely did not ask after seeing it was a category winner in letterboxd)

Lapizote wrote:

did you ever get around to watching the look back movie? i know it's available in streaming services now and i remember you were anticipating that one when I had you review the manga

(definitely did not ask after seeing it was a category winner in letterboxd)

yes I watched it, my thoughts aren't that different from the manga so idk if want to make another post on it, generally it fits better in a movie format than in a manga but I don't agree that it's that peak

short movies ?

reffty_gag wrote:

short movies ?

didn't see it sorry, haven't watched any but I don't see anything inherently wrong so yeah submit


cipher academy

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bad

Cipher academy is a manga by the writer of monogatari about the cipher academy, a japense high school where they teach cryptology and only cryptology and there is also a massive bounty hidden somewhere in the school.

with the previous manga, jin, I praised that they treat medicine with a lot of respect, with cipher academy, I can't say the same. We need to understand that cipher academy is basically a battle shounen, most of the manga is just different people fighting in "Cipher Battles". To add insult to injury it was published on shounen jump weekly. So while they mention cryptology terms, they don't really mean anything, it's not remotely accurate to reality, and in many ways it just works as a magic system for the fights.

This magic system isn't really consistent either, there aren't really any underlying rules to any of the fights, as each battle often has a gimmick attached which makes every fight completely unique, I consider this to be a bad thing, mainly, because someone winning or losing always feel like complete random bs, if anything can happen at any moment, there isn't really any tension, a character may be losing but you know the writer can just write whatever in that suddenly makes them win, it feels cheap

With most high school anime or manga, while there are a lot of people per class, they only really write 4-5 characters, rest are just in the background. Cipher academy goes "what if we tried writing EVERY SINGLE STUDENT", so like there are a gazillion characters and you forget who half of them are halfway through and no one really gets that much developement

Honestly I feel this may not be as much of a problem if you're reading it as it's being released and then you go to the discord for the manga and then just discuss that chapter for a whole week like it's most common in most battle shounens but binging it was pain

the character designs are cool tho

placed in D rank

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queue empty

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

short movies ?

didn't see it sorry, haven't watched any but I don't see anything inherently wrong so yeah submit

i mean, do you review short film/movies ? If yes, i would req one

Patatitta wrote:

I don't see anything inherently wrong so yeah submit

he does review short film/movies

reffty_gag wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

short movies ?

didn't see it sorry, haven't watched any but I don't see anything inherently wrong so yeah submit

i mean, do you review short film/movies ? If yes, i would req one

I have not watched short movies before but you can request short movies

i wanna req Ghost Summer (anime short film/movies, 40 minute duration, 2021)

reffty_gag wrote:

i wanna req Ghost Summer (anime short film/movies, 40 minute duration, 2021)

do you mean summer ghost?

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

i wanna req Ghost Summer (anime short film/movies, 40 minute duration, 2021)

do you mean summer ghost?

oh yes, srry for my dumb brain

reffty_gag wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

i wanna req Ghost Summer (anime short film/movies, 40 minute duration, 2021)

do you mean summer ghost?

oh yes, srry for my dumb brain

yeah sure will watch

Summer Ghost

Pretty good

40 minute long movie about a group of 3 students that summons a ghost, this ghost is actually like really nice and just chats with them, the fun part is that the ghost only shows up for people who are close to death in one way or another, this happens at like minute 5/10 of the movie, the rest of the movie is exploring the circumstances of each one of the characters and seeing everything unfold

the art is BEAUTIFUL, it looks fucking amazing and it has some really smart shots, having some more abstract scenes and generally angles and shots you don't see in most anime.

For it's short length, it's a surprisingly well fleshed out story, each character personality and sitation are distinct, and I think the movie does a really good job at showing how each character masks their troubles, their general though process, and why they decide to interact with the other characters the way they do.

There are basically 4 character totals, the main 3 and the ghost, which helps focus their short length better.

There are many scenes that are string together but that aren't necessarily happening at the same place or even at the same time, but they work because there is a emotional string attaching all of those scenes, when multiple "unrelated" scenes are connected is because they're in a similar stage of character arcs.

The anime flips between two different color paletes, a darker blue with motives of water, and a really bright and lively yellow with movites of the sky during a sunrise, the sad and more depressing scenes are blue in color, while when there is hope they use yellow, there is actually a scene later on the movie that straight up showcases this division and dynamic, it's on a box due to spoilers


it's a really good movie, I really enjoyed it, placed in A rank.

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

short movies ?

didn't see it sorry, haven't watched any but I don't see anything inherently wrong so yeah submit

i mean, do you review short film/movies ? If yes, i would req one

I have not watched short movies before but you can request short movies

I did recommend you Rejected some time ago and you did watch it, it is a short movie.

Analyze how this thread is still somehow active and what are the key points that you think make a thread successful

Although in the 2k posts that it has, I won't be surprised if somebody already asked this

as much as i would love to read that he probably wouldn't do that because its technically not media; patatitta doesn't review concepts like that, he just reviews media. he might do it in a seperate thread tho

i know i'm not patatitta but i think its to do with the fact that people receive something back from patatitta and that's what makes it so active; you get to make this guy sit through something and he'll write a whole review on it for FREE btw, and this cycle of giving him something and making him review it can actually loop on forever considering the fact that there's infinite amounts of media for him to review.

so basically, this thread could technically live on forever as long as patatita keeps reviewing stuff and as long as media is still being produced, and that's what has made it survive to 2,000 posts

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

short movies ?

didn't see it sorry, haven't watched any but I don't see anything inherently wrong so yeah submit

i mean, do you review short film/movies ? If yes, i would req one

I have not watched short movies before but you can request short movies

I did recommend you Rejected some time ago and you did watch it, it is a short movie.

oh yeah forgot




also yeah what sametdze says is true, this thread is alive because I never abandoned the thread. There are many threads that emulated this concept but they all gave up very quickly (except dm for mutual that lasted slightly longer), if they kept their promises those pages would still be front page

it's a lot of work but personally I think it's worth it because forcing myself to take recommendations from strangers on the internet really forces me out of my comfort zone

i fear these could be plot-light suggestions, so i don't know if they'll be valid, but i'll leave one of them here anyway, and any that don't apply can prompt me to send the next. i don't know why i was sitting on them, i guess i just didn't think they'd be worthwhile

+ ace combat 4: shattered skies

Review Sora no Woto.

Achromalia wrote:

i fear these could be plot-light suggestions, so i don't know if they'll be valid, but i'll leave one of them here anyway, and any that don't apply can prompt me to send the next. i don't know why i was sitting on them, i guess i just didn't think they'd be worthwhile

+ ace combat 4: shattered skies

I already did 0 and it didn't exactly fit also I didn't exactly like it so I don't think i'm playing more ace combats

Kobold84 wrote:

Review Sora no Woto.

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i've already seen sora no woto, and I actually have a fair ammount to say about it

I watched this anime because it's actually based on the city of cuenca, spain




when I discovered this, it was wild, you can ask any spanish person ever, I don't think any of them would choose cuenca to set a anime in, it's one of those city where it's kinda common to look down upon it and make jokes about it?, not to say it isn't pretty or a good place to live, I do think it actually fits surprisingly well into the anime and not only in a visual level

also, before going into the actual anime, this is probably not something you feel when you live in america or whatever plce that has a lot of representation in foreign media, seeing your own city/close to your own city be represented in anime or whatever is actually like really fucking cool and special, that itself gives the anime points

Sora no woto is a slice of life anime, it's a CGDCT about millitary girls kinda just making camp in cuenca and doing some small scale operations in there. I think the first half or so of it is really solid. Cuenca is actually a fantastic place to set a story like this in, as it's a very calm city with very cool architecture.

The problem I have with this anime is that it fails to commit to being a slice of life, it feels scared of being one. They try to add a lot of lore and drama and I just don't think it works out that well, specially at the end when they in troduce a villain whose defeat marks the end of the anime

I'm not ashamed of being the #1 fan of CGDCT anime, so I don't want my anime to be be ashamed of being one. It could also just be lazy writting or not knowing how to acutally write a slice of life anime. By trying to create tension or whatever you're demolishing the atmosphere that it has, and for it a iyashikei, that healing aura IS the selling point of the anime

I'm not saying iyashike anime can't have plots or complex stories, not at all, tsukumizu yuu exists and pulls it off excelently, but the difference between the drama in girls last tour and in here is that in girls last tour it's not intrusive to the atmosphere, in fact, the message of the plot is amplified with the atmosphere, but in sora no woto it constantly makes design and plot choices that while it would have worked very well in any other anime it just doesn't land well in this genre

for as much as I love that it's set on cuenca, I have to put it in C tier.

Read Michel Foucaults "The History of Sexualitu" volume 1: an introduction

(You can find a pdf online probably)

Ashton wrote:

Read Michel Foucaults "The History of Sexualitu" volume 1: an introduction

(You can find a pdf online probably)

1- never understimate my ability to get things without paying for them
2- I don't think I want to cover that on the thread, it is probably interesting and stuff but may be too far removed from the idea of this thread

Is it the sexuality part or the theory part of it that you don't want to review?

Ashton wrote:

Is it the sexuality part or the theory part of it that you don't want to review?

the type of things I cover are like games or anime or fantasy novels or whatever, this instead is a study, the sexuality is not the part that ticks me off, it's just that this isn't something I have much expertise in talking or is generally something i'm that interested in, it's like if you told me to talk about nietzsche or camus or whoever, yeah there is a lot of meat there but it's just not the same as analyzing slice of life anime which is what I actually enjoy

Patatitta wrote:

Ashton wrote:

Is it the sexuality part or the theory part of it that you don't want to review?

the type of things I cover are like games or anime or fantasy novels or whatever, this instead is a study, the sexuality is not the part that ticks me off, it's just that this isn't something I have much expertise in talking or is generally something i'm that interested in, it's like if you told me to talk about nietzsche or camus or whoever, yeah there is a lot of meat there but it's just not the same as analyzing slice of life anime which is what I actually enjoy

play Chrono Trigger, I know it takes longer than 15 hours but can you make an exception? It's such a good game.

Patatitta wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

i fear these could be plot-light suggestions, so i don't know if they'll be valid, but i'll leave one of them here anyway, and any that don't apply can prompt me to send the next. i don't know why i was sitting on them, i guess i just didn't think they'd be worthwhile

+ ace combat 4: shattered skies

I already did 0 and it didn't exactly fit also I didn't exactly like it so I don't think i'm playing more ace combats

understood

mm, let me try other things i vaguely remember

+ "my happy marriage"

Ashton wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ashton wrote:

Is it the sexuality part or the theory part of it that you don't want to review?

the type of things I cover are like games or anime or fantasy novels or whatever, this instead is a study, the sexuality is not the part that ticks me off, it's just that this isn't something I have much expertise in talking or is generally something i'm that interested in, it's like if you told me to talk about nietzsche or camus or whoever, yeah there is a lot of meat there but it's just not the same as analyzing slice of life anime which is what I actually enjoy

play Chrono Trigger, I know it takes longer than 15 hours but can you make an exception?

already played chrono trigger (DS port), you can actually see the movies/anime/games i've already played on my signature.

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chrono trigger is a RPG released by square in 1995, it's about time travel and stuff, I genearlly had a good time with it but I can't say I agree with the 4.5/5 rating it has on backloggd.

While it is a RPG, it doesn't have the most complex or profound plot, the characters are well written but I think the setting of time travels is missing on nuance. Time travels are a notoriously hard genre to write a story in and for it to work, mainly because of plot holes and generally just trying to have the story make sense, while chrono trigger doesn't have any holes, it also doens't really explore the setings very much, in many ways their depiction of the past feel stereotypical at best and boring at worst.

I know i'm asking for too much but I didn't really see that cultural shock traveling across time, I want for it to do spicy things with their time travel, not just go "oh this age has dinosaurs".

The combat uses the square ATB system, I do not like ATB. In ATB combat the turn order is actually based on real time, each character has a meter that charges up passively and when it fills up they can make an attack. This is the same combay system final fantasy has.

ATB combat is made with the idea of responding to the criticism of classic turn based combat being boring and slow. I personally heavily disagree with this notion, I fucking love spending 20 minutes per turn just thinking (shoutout to chained echoes, but we need to understand the era it was created in.

Nowadays, clasic and complex turn based combat is not exactly common, instead, the dominant combat system nowadays is real time action. uit bacck in the day, turn based combat WAS dominant, mainly because it was actually really easy to implement and required very little resources, so it was a perfect fit for this more primitive age of videogames

the problem with ATB is that you're sacrificing the complexity of the combat just to have more "dynamic" fights, the combats are made so you can think of the right move and win on the fly, it doesn't require you to stop and think, you will say "oh but you can set it so it stops time after the bar fills up in the setting", but that doesn't change the fact that the inclusion of wait style ATB is more an accesibility mechanic than anything else, the combat is still made so you can win without thinking too hard, and having the ability to wait and think doesn't change that

Also I played sea of stars recently which is directly inspired on chrono trigger and thought it was a lot better ngl, still have some big flaws IMO but it's a step up

so in the end, it's a game with a kinda average plot and kinda average combat, it's serviceable but far from what I would consider peak, placed in C tier, will update OP tomorrow since i'm currently sleepy.

Achromalia wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

i fear these could be plot-light suggestions, so i don't know if they'll be valid, but i'll leave one of them here anyway, and any that don't apply can prompt me to send the next. i don't know why i was sitting on them, i guess i just didn't think they'd be worthwhile

+ ace combat 4: shattered skies

I already did 0 and it didn't exactly fit also I didn't exactly like it so I don't think i'm playing more ace combats

understood

mm, let me try other things i vaguely remember

+ "my happy marriage"

already linking the very legal website lmao brave, I can do it yeah, will watch, will update op tomorrow as I said tho

Patatitta wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

mm, let me try other things i vaguely remember

+ "my happy marriage"

already linking the very legal website lmao brave, I can do it yeah, will watch, will update op tomorrow as I said tho

oh

oh right

so

i forgot that that was what that was

Patatitta wrote:

Ashton wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ashton wrote:

Is it the sexuality part or the theory part of it that you don't want to review?

the type of things I cover are like games or anime or fantasy novels or whatever, this instead is a study, the sexuality is not the part that ticks me off, it's just that this isn't something I have much expertise in talking or is generally something i'm that interested in, it's like if you told me to talk about nietzsche or camus or whoever, yeah there is a lot of meat there but it's just not the same as analyzing slice of life anime which is what I actually enjoy

play Chrono Trigger, I know it takes longer than 15 hours but can you make an exception?

already played chrono trigger (DS port), you can actually see the movies/anime/games i've already played on my signature.

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chrono trigger is a RPG released by square in 1995, it's about time travel and stuff, I genearlly had a good time with it but I can't say I agree with the 4.5/5 rating it has on backloggd.

While it is a RPG, it doesn't have the most complex or profound plot, the characters are well written but I think the setting of time travels is missing on nuance. Time travels are a notoriously hard genre to write a story in and for it to work, mainly because of plot holes and generally just trying to have the story make sense, while chrono trigger doesn't have any holes, it also doens't really explore the setings very much, in many ways their depiction of the past feel stereotypical at best and boring at worst.

I know i'm asking for too much but I didn't really see that cultural shock traveling across time, I want for it to do spicy things with their time travel, not just go "oh this age has dinosaurs".

The combat uses the square ATB system, I do not like ATB. In ATB combat the turn order is actually based on real time, each character has a meter that charges up passively and when it fills up they can make an attack. This is the same combay system final fantasy has.

ATB combat is made with the idea of responding to the criticism of classic turn based combat being boring and slow. I personally heavily disagree with this notion, I fucking love spending 20 minutes per turn just thinking (shoutout to chained echoes, but we need to understand the era it was created in.

Nowadays, clasic and complex turn based combat is not exactly common, instead, the dominant combat system nowadays is real time action. uit bacck in the day, turn based combat WAS dominant, mainly because it was actually really easy to implement and required very little resources, so it was a perfect fit for this more primitive age of videogames

the problem with ATB is that you're sacrificing the complexity of the combat just to have more "dynamic" fights, the combats are made so you can think of the right move and win on the fly, it doesn't require you to stop and think, you will say "oh but you can set it so it stops time after the bar fills up in the setting", but that doesn't change the fact that the inclusion of wait style ATB is more an accesibility mechanic than anything else, the combat is still made so you can win without thinking too hard, and having the ability to wait and think doesn't change that

Also I played sea of stars recently which is directly inspired on chrono trigger and thought it was a lot better ngl, still have some big flaws IMO but it's a step up

so in the end, it's a game with a kinda average plot and kinda average combat, it's serviceable but far from what I would consider peak, placed in C tier, will update OP tomorrow since i'm currently sleepy.

Achromalia wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

i fear these could be plot-light suggestions, so i don't know if they'll be valid, but i'll leave one of them here anyway, and any that don't apply can prompt me to send the next. i don't know why i was sitting on them, i guess i just didn't think they'd be worthwhile

+ ace combat 4: shattered skies

I already did 0 and it didn't exactly fit also I didn't exactly like it so I don't think i'm playing more ace combats

understood

mm, let me try other things i vaguely remember

+ "my happy marriage"

already linking the very legal website lmao brave, I can do it yeah, will watch, will update op tomorrow as I said tho

I actually agree with your analysis on combat. I too prefer turn based combat as opposed to ATB, maybe it's because I get stressed out with ATB?? (Xenoblade would be a perfect franchise for me if the combat was turn based)

I guess we will agree to disagree on everything else though.

Anyways, am I allowed to suggest another game then? Or am I limited to one recommendation?

Ashton wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ashton wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Ashton wrote:

Is it the sexuality part or the theory part of it that you don't want to review?

the type of things I cover are like games or anime or fantasy novels or whatever, this instead is a study, the sexuality is not the part that ticks me off, it's just that this isn't something I have much expertise in talking or is generally something i'm that interested in, it's like if you told me to talk about nietzsche or camus or whoever, yeah there is a lot of meat there but it's just not the same as analyzing slice of life anime which is what I actually enjoy

play Chrono Trigger, I know it takes longer than 15 hours but can you make an exception?

already played chrono trigger (DS port), you can actually see the movies/anime/games i've already played on my signature.

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chrono trigger is a RPG released by square in 1995, it's about time travel and stuff, I genearlly had a good time with it but I can't say I agree with the 4.5/5 rating it has on backloggd.

While it is a RPG, it doesn't have the most complex or profound plot, the characters are well written but I think the setting of time travels is missing on nuance. Time travels are a notoriously hard genre to write a story in and for it to work, mainly because of plot holes and generally just trying to have the story make sense, while chrono trigger doesn't have any holes, it also doens't really explore the setings very much, in many ways their depiction of the past feel stereotypical at best and boring at worst.

I know i'm asking for too much but I didn't really see that cultural shock traveling across time, I want for it to do spicy things with their time travel, not just go "oh this age has dinosaurs".

The combat uses the square ATB system, I do not like ATB. In ATB combat the turn order is actually based on real time, each character has a meter that charges up passively and when it fills up they can make an attack. This is the same combay system final fantasy has.

ATB combat is made with the idea of responding to the criticism of classic turn based combat being boring and slow. I personally heavily disagree with this notion, I fucking love spending 20 minutes per turn just thinking (shoutout to chained echoes, but we need to understand the era it was created in.

Nowadays, clasic and complex turn based combat is not exactly common, instead, the dominant combat system nowadays is real time action. uit bacck in the day, turn based combat WAS dominant, mainly because it was actually really easy to implement and required very little resources, so it was a perfect fit for this more primitive age of videogames

the problem with ATB is that you're sacrificing the complexity of the combat just to have more "dynamic" fights, the combats are made so you can think of the right move and win on the fly, it doesn't require you to stop and think, you will say "oh but you can set it so it stops time after the bar fills up in the setting", but that doesn't change the fact that the inclusion of wait style ATB is more an accesibility mechanic than anything else, the combat is still made so you can win without thinking too hard, and having the ability to wait and think doesn't change that

Also I played sea of stars recently which is directly inspired on chrono trigger and thought it was a lot better ngl, still have some big flaws IMO but it's a step up

so in the end, it's a game with a kinda average plot and kinda average combat, it's serviceable but far from what I would consider peak, placed in C tier, will update OP tomorrow since i'm currently sleepy.

Achromalia wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

i fear these could be plot-light suggestions, so i don't know if they'll be valid, but i'll leave one of them here anyway, and any that don't apply can prompt me to send the next. i don't know why i was sitting on them, i guess i just didn't think they'd be worthwhile

+ ace combat 4: shattered skies

I already did 0 and it didn't exactly fit also I didn't exactly like it so I don't think i'm playing more ace combats

understood

mm, let me try other things i vaguely remember

+ "my happy marriage"

already linking the very legal website lmao brave, I can do it yeah, will watch, will update op tomorrow as I said tho

I actually agree with your analysis on combat. I too prefer turn based combat as opposed to ATB, maybe it's because I get stressed out with ATB?? (Xenoblade would be a perfect franchise for me if the combat was turn based)

I guess we will agree to disagree on everything else though.

Anyways, am I allowed to suggest another game then? Or am I limited to one recommendation?

you can request as many things as you want, even at once if you want to

Too bad you didn't enjoy sora no woto as much, it's a great piece. Have you ever been to Cuenca at all? I traveled there from Madrid out of curiosity after seeing it in the anime. Totally improved my impressions of the city vibes.

Kobold84 wrote:

Too bad you didn't enjoy sora no woto as much, it's a great piece. Have you ever been to Cuenca at all? I traveled there from Madrid out of curiosity after seeing it in the anime. Totally improved my impressions of the city vibes.

never went to cuenca myself sadly

My Happy Marriage

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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

This anime is about a girl who lives in a prestigious family in 19th century japan who is absued by the rest of her family due to her not having super cool supernatural powers that is forced into a arranged marriage with another family who does treat her right.

When I talked about her I mentioned about how that movie was in many way a analysis and showcase about the way we speak and percieve romance in the current era vs what romance really is, about how we have this perception that love will always win at the end and that any hurdles can be overcome. This anime is the exact opposite, it's romance purely as a resource, as a way to distribute responsability and work in a household

There is no love in a arranged marriage, in the anme they were already engaged before they met each other for the first time, however, they are depicted as the perfect couple. And while it does make sense in the anime why the girl is happy, I very much don't really agree with the points it's trying to make or the general philosohpy behind it.

The perception of romance in 19th century japan and the perception of romance today are entirerily different. In that era arranged marriages and stuff were commonplace, but that doesn't mean it's really right. In this case the female protagonist had been severily abused in her household, so when she moves out due to her marriage she becomes happy and "falls in love" with the hot male protagonist.

But the male protagonist isn't exactly the best husband, he just treats her with slight respect. We as the viewer percieve them as a really good guy because it's presented that way, but we only percieve him as a good guy because we have been anchored to compare it to her previous living situation, but if you look at it more coldly, during the anime there is never anything shown that could suggest that the two protagonist could even be remotely compatible with each other, there isn't any romance by our modern definition

in reality what is happening is that you're taking a traumatized and depressed girl, getting her out of that bad situation and then especting sex in return and for her to take the role of a wife in 19th century japan which again wasn't the best place to be in since women rights weren't really as of yet

while yes, it does make sense that she is happy and whatever, I don't think any of the actions that the two characters made where illogical or plot holes, but I don't like how the romance is depicted, the anime never really tries to get you to think about the nature of the relationship or whatever, they're just expecting you for to see that, go "how cute!" and accept it without really thinking too much about it

also, spoilers, but major delabreaker for me. This anime falls into the trope of "you know not being special or super cool is fine as we can expect everyone in society to be like that" only for that character to suddently gain the super cool special powers which kinda undermines the point of "being normal is fine" because you say that but then you're NOT willing to actually write a character like that or for the character to be happy while they're normal and I just despise that

also the family of the protagonist feels a little bit too antagonistic?, like yes I get that they're supposed to be abusive and stuff but I think it reaches a point where it's so abusive and antagonistic you don't even believe something like that could happen IRL which kinda just leads to you not taking it that seriously, it removes a lot of the emotional weight it could have had

Also, this anime really isn't a romance at all, the relationship is kinda set in stone from the start and as we've said there isn't anything shown that we could consider romance today, it's more about the relationship and the marriage being attacked from different angles and sources and that whole plot with the super cool special powers

I didn't enjoy this anime very much and I think it has pretty terrible messeging, D rank.

review the diary of a wimpy kid: the getaway






yea

JLuca913 891 wrote:

review the diary of a wimpy kid: the getaway






yea

denied

this is why people (or at least me) stopped giving things for you to review a long time ago, you're way too picky

like at least TRY reading the book before you go out and deny it. you're literally judging a book by its cover :sob:

when it comes to trying to get you to review things i feel like i'm a parent trying to get my child (which in this case, is you) to eat something new for dinner (which in this case, is reviewing a piece of media), but the child just refuses to take a bite because it looks bad.

sametdze wrote:

this is why people (or at least me) stopped giving things for you to review a long time ago, you're way too picky

like at least TRY reading the book before you go out and deny it. you're literally judging a book by its cover :sob:

when it comes to trying to get you to review things i feel like i'm a parent trying to get my child (which in this case, is you) to eat something new for dinner (which in this case, is reviewing a piece of media), but the child just refuses to take a bite because it looks bad.

dude i'm sorry but have you seen the things I review?, have you seen what places high on the tier list?, has 260 reviews not given insight to my tastes?, I need things that have meat to it, and childrens books are not it. I'm not being picky at all, i've watched a lot of stuff and read a lot of stuff I wouldn't have if this wasn't for this thread, this is an exercise for me to go outside my comfort zone and experience new things, but the point is that I need to have something to talk about after I finish reading it, some sort of analysis I can do something I can say about the book and this just isn't it.

I gotta admit my diary of wimpy kid request was pretty stupid

So now I've changed my mind and

You can review Mission Impossible 7 (movie)

this helpfully digested some of my ambivalence toward it... i was not really picking up on these problems explicitly (except little pieces of the text/subtext/context of arranged marriage and women's rights, because it was evidently set in awful conditions, but i clearly had not gathered enough awareness to digest it) and needed more clarity on what could have been going on

...i think it was one of the last anime shows i watched, sometime within the last year

or maybe it wasn't? i wish i knew what exactly i've been seeing/doing in these past few years...

anyway, i specifically remember starting it and somehow seeing some of myself through the protagonist's passivity and fears and unfairly self-critical thoughts so i was blurrily attached between that and the very... unfamiliar contexts of these settings (culturally, interpersonally, while also knowing this is part of a narrative but not knowing how to take note of what composed that narrative in real time), knowing they were different from life as it is now. i remember uncritically submitting to the course of the story, vaguely wanting to like the husband and in many ways being led by the "vibes" of the story to still feel like there was something sweet in it... but ultimately this reminded me of how little substance there was when much of the story was presumably founded on being someone with minimal power or specific skills beyond housework who could finally find escape from exploitative and dehumanizing abuse or despair. it didn't inspect power or culture, it didn't explore the troubles of trying to find or build skills in this ecosystem beyond being his complementary housewife (and the part i recall from later in the story clearly doesn't count), it didn't explore the features of the relationship that much beyond hoping he's happy and learning that he's happy with you and finding that he wants you to be happy too (i think? i forgot a lot of what happened in the middle other than family drama) and it seemed like i was attached to the thought of being able to heal through comparatively kind people, but realistically it would never be a sufficient or helpful analogue at all...

it's not necessarily explanatory (as in, the following observation/impression is not assumed to be fully correlated or causative of my blurry acceptance) but i notably am not very sure how romance forms for different people, and it's hard to know how exactly i would relate to it myself... while at the same time i'm often very fixated on stories About it, wondering what connections between people mean and wondering what i could possibly want or hope for. but i doubt i've ever really had or held onto reliably representative expressions of healthy relationships, and i've regularly drawn my guesses/impressions from scarce or otherwise sensationalized examples in fiction and the various things people describe online. my own family life doesn't really have good examples of romance either, so, all of that is how i would contextualize (or, considering the way i've been writing my approval of the review, more like apprehensively self-justifying) the fact i didn't really process any of this and understand their roles and implications during the anime, if i remember correctly then i was exactly that person you described in thinking "oh... that's cute ;v;" and had not thought ahead

i'm wondering what made it so hard to just view it as clearly and realistically as you seem to...

inexperience with life? detachment from reality and implications? things which i obsess over the consequences of that i forget about immediately if i'm in a different mood or setting that reframes my limited awareness. it's frustrating, tiring, unclear, but

it's helpful to get clearer vision from other people. i just wish i understood how to not rely so heavily on them for feeding and anchoring my own thoughts, but if i don't, then i often find i'm drifting off into my own bubble-world and lost in self-indulgent things that couldn't ever have existed. too many critical questions, too tired to know where to start and endure answering them

again, ty for the review, will hopefully recommend more things i want to see reviews for soon

JLuca913 891 wrote:

I gotta admit my diary of wimpy kid request was pretty stupid

So now I've changed my mind and

You can review Mission Impossible 7 (movie)

do I need to watch any of the other mission impossible movies beforehand

Patatitta wrote:

JLuca913 891 wrote:

I gotta admit my diary of wimpy kid request was pretty stupid

So now I've changed my mind and

You can review Mission Impossible 7 (movie)

do I need to watch any of the other mission impossible movies beforehand

no.. I don't think so because I haven't watched the other mission impossible movies before and the only one I've watched is the number 7 one and I still understand the story so

Achromalia wrote:

this helpfully digested some of my ambivalence toward it... i was not really picking up on these problems explicitly (except little pieces of the text/subtext/context of arranged marriage and women's rights, because it was evidently set in awful conditions, but i clearly had not gathered enough awareness to digest it) and needed more clarity on what could have been going on

...i think it was one of the last anime shows i watched, sometime within the last year

or maybe it wasn't? i wish i knew what exactly i've been seeing/doing in these past few years...

anyway, i specifically remember starting it and somehow seeing some of myself through the protagonist's passivity and fears and unfairly self-critical thoughts so i was blurrily attached between that and the very... unfamiliar contexts of these settings (culturally, interpersonally, while also knowing this is part of a narrative but not knowing how to take note of what composed that narrative in real time), knowing they were different from life as it is now. i remember uncritically submitting to the course of the story, vaguely wanting to like the husband and in many ways being led by the "vibes" of the story to still feel like there was something sweet in it... but ultimately this reminded me of how little substance there was when much of the story was presumably founded on being someone with minimal power or specific skills beyond housework who could finally find escape from exploitative and dehumanizing abuse or despair. it didn't inspect power or culture, it didn't explore the troubles of trying to find or build skills in this ecosystem beyond being his complementary housewife (and the part i recall from later in the story clearly doesn't count), it didn't explore the features of the relationship that much beyond hoping he's happy and learning that he's happy with you and finding that he wants you to be happy too (i think? i forgot a lot of what happened in the middle other than family drama) and it seemed like i was attached to the thought of being able to heal through comparatively kind people, but realistically it would never be a sufficient or helpful analogue at all...

it's not necessarily explanatory (as in, the following observation/impression is not assumed to be fully correlated or causative of my blurry acceptance) but i notably am not very sure how romance forms for different people, and it's hard to know how exactly i would relate to it myself... while at the same time i'm often very fixated on stories About it, wondering what connections between people mean and wondering what i could possibly want or hope for. but i doubt i've ever really had or held onto reliably representative expressions of healthy relationships, and i've regularly drawn my guesses/impressions from scarce or otherwise sensationalized examples in fiction and the various things people describe online. my own family life doesn't really have good examples of romance either, so, all of that is how i would contextualize (or, considering the way i've been writing my approval of the review, more like apprehensively self-justifying) the fact i didn't really process any of this and understand their roles and implications during the anime, if i remember correctly then i was exactly that person you described in thinking "oh... that's cute ;v;" and had not thought ahead

i'm wondering what made it so hard to just view it as clearly and realistically as you seem to...

inexperience with life? detachment from reality and implications? things which i obsess over the consequences of that i forget about immediately if i'm in a different mood or setting that reframes my limited awareness. it's frustrating, tiring, unclear, but

it's helpful to get clearer vision from other people. i just wish i understood how to not rely so heavily on them for feeding and anchoring my own thoughts, but if i don't, then i often find i'm drifting off into my own bubble-world and lost in self-indulgent things that couldn't ever have existed. too many critical questions, too tired to know where to start and endure answering them

again, ty for the review, will hopefully recommend more things i want to see reviews for soon

I want to make clear that i'm in the minority here, this has a pretty good score in MAL and people also seem to be enjoying S2, so don't take my opinion as absolute

also, on the comment of "to see things as clear and realistically as yoU", that just comes to me watching things very critically and having certain tastes in media, while watching I was already thinking what to write for this thread. Also, I can't not admit that the reason why I personally spotted some of the things I consider problems are because I already disliked the anime at a surface level, it was not like I liked the anime then I started thinking about it and started disliking it. I feel if you for some reason do want to do as me and develop a more critical eye the only thing you have to do is just start doing this. I don't mean making a thread like this one but just take things ythat you enjoy and break everything in elements and explanations that make sense tyo you, think "why does this evoke a certain feeling" and just go on based on that

going further than that, I think you already have said vision, you already make insanely long analytical comments in OT, like the one you already did, the difference is that you search the answers in yourself and I search it in whatever i'm looking. You don't seem to want to atribute negattive traits to any media that you've seen another person enjoy, as you can't really fanthom the idea of someone enjoying a thing that you personally may consider bad written, I personally don't really have that way of looking at things

JLuca913 891 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

JLuca913 891 wrote:

I gotta admit my diary of wimpy kid request was pretty stupid

So now I've changed my mind and

You can review Mission Impossible 7 (movie)

do I need to watch any of the other mission impossible movies beforehand

no.. I don't think so because I haven't watched the other mission impossible movies before and the only one I've watched is the number 7 one and I still understand the story so

googling it says that it's recommended to watch both 5 and 6 before 7, I know you didn't request 5 and 6 but may I watch them too?

Achromalia wrote:

this helpfully digested some of my ambivalence toward it...

i was not really picking up on these problems explicitly (except little pieces of the text/subtext/context of arranged marriage and women's rights, because it was evidently set in awful conditions, but i clearly had not gathered enough awareness to digest it) and needed more clarity on what could have been going on

...i think it was one of the last anime shows i watched, sometime within the last year

or maybe it wasn't? i wish i knew what exactly i've been seeing/doing in these past few years...

anyway, i specifically remember starting it and somehow seeing some of myself through the protagonist's passivity and fears and unfairly self-critical thoughts so i was blurrily attached between that and the very... unfamiliar contexts of these settings (culturally, interpersonally, while also knowing this is part of a narrative but not knowing how to take note of what composed that narrative in real time), knowing they were different from life as it is now. i remember uncritically submitting to the course of the story, vaguely wanting to like the husband and in many ways being led by the "vibes" of the story to still feel like there was something sweet in it... but ultimately this reminded me of how little substance there was when much of the story was presumably founded on being someone with minimal power or specific skills beyond housework who could finally find escape from exploitative and dehumanizing abuse or despair. it didn't inspect power or culture, it didn't explore the troubles of trying to find or build skills in this ecosystem beyond being his complementary housewife (and the part i recall from later in the story clearly doesn't count), it didn't explore the features of the relationship that much beyond hoping he's happy and learning that he's happy with you and finding that he wants you to be happy too (i think? i forgot a lot of what happened in the middle other than family drama) and it seemed like i was attached to the thought of being able to heal through comparatively kind people, but realistically it would never be a sufficient or helpful analogue at all...

it's not necessarily explanatory (as in, the following observation/impression is not assumed to be fully correlated or causative of my blurry acceptance) but i notably am not very sure how romance forms for different people, and it's hard to know how exactly i would relate to it myself... while at the same time i'm often very fixated on stories About it, wondering what connections between people mean and wondering what i could possibly want or hope for. but i doubt i've ever really had or held onto reliably representative expressions of healthy relationships, and i've regularly drawn my guesses/impressions from scarce or otherwise sensationalized examples in fiction and the various things people describe online. my own family life doesn't really have good examples of romance either, so, all of that is how i would contextualize (or, considering the way i've been writing my approval of the review, more like apprehensively self-justifying) the fact i didn't really process any of this and understand their roles and implications during the anime, if i remember correctly then i was exactly that person you described in thinking "oh... that's cute ;v;" and had not thought ahead

i'm wondering what made it so hard to just view it as clearly and realistically as you seem to...

inexperience with life? detachment from reality and implications? things which i obsess over the consequences of that i forget about immediately if i'm in a different mood or setting that reframes my limited awareness. it's frustrating, tiring, unclear, but

it's helpful to get clearer vision from other people. i just wish i understood how to not rely so heavily on them for feeding and anchoring my own thoughts, but if i don't, then i often find i'm drifting off into my own bubble-world and lost in self-indulgent things that couldn't ever have existed. too many critical questions, too tired to know where to start and endure answering them

again, ty for the review, will hopefully recommend more things i want to see reviews for soon

ADDENDUM: another thing that slipped my mind... in thinking that i viewed it thru her pov while also accepting my detachment whenever something happened that i wouldn't naturally/intuitively think or say (my thoughts were led by hers, and i'm very used to stories and protagonists being hard to expect relating perfectly/deeply/substantively with, making it normalized and habitual and easy to uncritically ignore),, i neglected to really consider that this isn't really a person i relate with so much as a person i vaguely thought could symbolize and carry things i haven't digested, so i didn't even really inspect her character her either, let alone the husband's, so that's... worrying

in the case that you or anyone else would have thoughts on that, it would be very appreciated to hear from you ^-^

Patatitta wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

this helpfully digested some of my ambivalence toward it...

i was not really picking up on these problems explicitly (except little pieces of the text/subtext/context of arranged marriage and women's rights, because it was evidently set in awful conditions, but i clearly had not gathered enough awareness to digest it) and needed more clarity on what could have been going on

...i think it was one of the last anime shows i watched, sometime within the last year

or maybe it wasn't? i wish i knew what exactly i've been seeing/doing in these past few years...

anyway, i specifically remember starting it and somehow seeing some of myself through the protagonist's passivity and fears and unfairly self-critical thoughts so i was blurrily attached between that and the very... unfamiliar contexts of these settings (culturally, interpersonally, while also knowing this is part of a narrative but not knowing how to take note of what composed that narrative in real time), knowing they were different from life as it is now. i remember uncritically submitting to the course of the story, vaguely wanting to like the husband and in many ways being led by the "vibes" of the story to still feel like there was something sweet in it... but ultimately this reminded me of how little substance there was when much of the story was presumably founded on being someone with minimal power or specific skills beyond housework who could finally find escape from exploitative and dehumanizing abuse or despair. it didn't inspect power or culture, it didn't explore the troubles of trying to find or build skills in this ecosystem beyond being his complementary housewife (and the part i recall from later in the story clearly doesn't count), it didn't explore the features of the relationship that much beyond hoping he's happy and learning that he's happy with you and finding that he wants you to be happy too (i think? i forgot a lot of what happened in the middle other than family drama) and it seemed like i was attached to the thought of being able to heal through comparatively kind people, but realistically it would never be a sufficient or helpful analogue at all...

it's not necessarily explanatory (as in, the following observation/impression is not assumed to be fully correlated or causative of my blurry acceptance) but i notably am not very sure how romance forms for different people, and it's hard to know how exactly i would relate to it myself... while at the same time i'm often very fixated on stories About it, wondering what connections between people mean and wondering what i could possibly want or hope for. but i doubt i've ever really had or held onto reliably representative expressions of healthy relationships, and i've regularly drawn my guesses/impressions from scarce or otherwise sensationalized examples in fiction and the various things people describe online. my own family life doesn't really have good examples of romance either, so, all of that is how i would contextualize (or, considering the way i've been writing my approval of the review, more like apprehensively self-justifying) the fact i didn't really process any of this and understand their roles and implications during the anime, if i remember correctly then i was exactly that person you described in thinking "oh... that's cute ;v;" and had not thought ahead

i'm wondering what made it so hard to just view it as clearly and realistically as you seem to...

inexperience with life? detachment from reality and implications? things which i obsess over the consequences of that i forget about immediately if i'm in a different mood or setting that reframes my limited awareness. it's frustrating, tiring, unclear, but

it's helpful to get clearer vision from other people. i just wish i understood how to not rely so heavily on them for feeding and anchoring my own thoughts, but if i don't, then i often find i'm drifting off into my own bubble-world and lost in self-indulgent things that couldn't ever have existed. too many critical questions, too tired to know where to start and endure answering them

again, ty for the review, will hopefully recommend more things i want to see reviews for soon

I want to make clear that i'm in the minority here, this has a pretty good score in MAL and people also seem to be enjoying S2, so don't take my opinion as absolute

also, on the comment of "to see things as clear and realistically as yoU", that just comes to me watching things very critically and having certain tastes in media, while watching I was already thinking what to write for this thread. Also, I can't not admit that the reason why I personally spotted some of the things I consider problems are because I already disliked the anime at a surface level, it was not like I liked the anime then I started thinking about it and started disliking it. I feel if you for some reason do want to do as me and develop a more critical eye the only thing you have to do is just start doing this. I don't mean making a thread like this one but just take things ythat you enjoy and break everything in elements and explanations that make sense tyo you, think "why does this evoke a certain feeling" and just go on based on that

going further than that, I think you already have said vision, you already make insanely long analytical comments in OT, like the one you already did, the difference is that you search the answers in yourself and I search it in whatever i'm looking. You don't seem to want to atribute negattive traits to any media that you've seen another person enjoy, as you can't really fanthom the idea of someone enjoying a thing that you personally may consider bad written, I personally don't really have that way of looking at things

mm. in my case, i often wish for understanding and sight through others' eyes because i don't trust my own-- often times the lengthy analyses i write are doubting themselves, justifying various facets within them, critiquing themselves and their own tentative conclusions while hoping other people might consider similar things and possibly echo back with something that carries those questions in mind and possibly answers them with things i'm just not able to see... maybe i would have some depth of sight, but i find it hard to convince myself of its salience and applicability for the scenarios and settings around me when not universally proven, as well as when attempting to test my suspicions would appear to have more risk and consequence than i'm willing to bear

so... all of that is my reasoning (in reference for "if for some reason [...]") which very tentatively motivates(?, because it might be inaccurate to imply i have the volition for it, i rarely ever do) me to want to carry the real-time eye that you seemed to. i hope it's not perceived as uncritical or insincere flattery (i add this because it came to mind as a possible thought), but to me i genuinely view your vision as very useful-- in real life, i am often frozen and inattentive and... too blankly/blindly reactive rather than proactive, so i don't find myself able to trust that i can respond to anything with good clarity and reasoning. i submit to events around me in real-time, i'm often more naturally habitually inclined to quietly numbing myself so that i'm not panicking, and i generally rely on any slightly-trusted person accompanying me to lead or anchor me in whatever scenario i'm in-- either that or i have to be in particular places situated for particular things that i'm familiar with

all of that is to represent where i seemed to believe a more presently-aware critical eye would be relevant and applicable, because if i can't live in the present and reason through my surroundings in the moment and improvise, then i may not really live any life at all (in finding work, in carrying any ambitions, in establishing relations with people and maintaining healthily stable and meaningful friendships that facilitate mutual growth) and i will burden/neglect/disappoint everyone who pities me enough to support my survival... instead, my eye is moreso centered on the past and future, except they're not very confident visions and are hard for me to substantiate and trust and work with, and i don't believe them to be well-informed

anyway!! i'm really surprised someone noticed that in me, your comment on what my attitude seems to be toward media the people seem to enjoy. unless i'm misreading it, it seems like you're interpreting me to be apprehensive about critiquing things people like. in my view, i believe that's because i often try to "absorb" a selected variety of attachments people have to certain things/media, and in a way i'm more focused on sympathizing with people and attempting to view them favorably and i am very inclined to assume there is merit in something because people have connected with it in someway (if not through the substance of the work itself, then often it's through how it carries the things it symbolizes in other peoples' eyes). connected to that habit, there are a number of insecurities/fears and sources of dread that motivate the desire to like things other people like, but one of the most notable among them is the desire to Be Those People, either to be among them or to effectively mimic/steal/absorb their life experiences and personalities into myself. but in truth, i cannot do any of that, and the most i have done is make the person i am now learn to enjoy some of the things they did, and i adopt some of their behaviors in turn in with very transparently out-of-place inconsistency in texture/flavor...

i'm not sure what i make of your following claim of "you can't really fathom [that people would like something you see problems in]" or how you would apply it, that doesn't seem to resonate yet but i may be missing something about myself or about the intended semantics of that statement

but, your advice seems useful, and i hope i can attempt that to some effect... thank you again for your thoughts <3

Patatitta wrote:

JLuca913 891 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

JLuca913 891 wrote:

I gotta admit my diary of wimpy kid request was pretty stupid

So now I've changed my mind and

You can review Mission Impossible 7 (movie)

do I need to watch any of the other mission impossible movies beforehand

no.. I don't think so because I haven't watched the other mission impossible movies before and the only one I've watched is the number 7 one and I still understand the story so

googling it says that it's recommended to watch both 5 and 6 before 7, I know you didn't request 5 and 6 but may I watch them too?

actually ACTUALLY, i forgot that I watched the mission impossible 6,not 7 🤐

But yeah sure you may watch all of them too

JLuca913 891 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

JLuca913 891 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

JLuca913 891 wrote:

I gotta admit my diary of wimpy kid request was pretty stupid

So now I've changed my mind and

You can review Mission Impossible 7 (movie)

do I need to watch any of the other mission impossible movies beforehand

no.. I don't think so because I haven't watched the other mission impossible movies before and the only one I've watched is the number 7 one and I still understand the story so

googling it says that it's recommended to watch both 5 and 6 before 7, I know you didn't request 5 and 6 but may I watch them too?

actually ACTUALLY, i forgot that I watched the mission impossible 6,not 7 🤐

But yeah sure you may watch all of them too

sure thanks will watch 5 and 6

Mission Impossible 5: Rogue Nation

if the mission is impossible how is that they have completed 5 of them,,,

Mission Impossible is one of the biggest action film franchises, it features cool fights, explosions, cars, people being badass, etc. It's the living stereotype of a american action film, it's all of the good and the bad of this genre destilated and condensated in a movie.

The movie is about how the impossible mission force is disbanded due to a terrorist group called the syndicate, and their (impossible) mission is to find and defeat the syndicate. The plot is very goofy and very much just a excuse to have cool stunts. It doesn't try to anything very interesting and also it kinda does feel a little bit nonsensical givv en how easy it would have for the syndicate to kill the protagonist

so how cool are the stunts?, I would say they're okay. This movie isn't reinventing the wheel, the fights don't really have gimmicks, they are your typical fist fights, your car chases, the most original scene is one where ethan hunt has to dive into a big submarine server to hack the security of a place they were infiltrating

I have a bit more I want to say about this film but I will watch 6 before doing so to flesh out my thoughts.

Placed on C tier

Mission Impossible 6: Fallout

Everything I said about the previous movie applies to this one as well, it's mostly about the stakes rather than the stunts themselves, the story is bad, and generally there isn't that much to bite on here

The plot in this one is extra nonsensical, it's about a terrorist group obtaining 3 nuclear bombs that the IMF must stop. there are some pretty nice plot holes, like the first scene they kidnap and convince the designer of the bombs for information on them, they convince them by making them believe the bombs have already exploded, however, as it turns out the location of the actual bombs will turn out to be entirerily different so like how the fuck did they convince them like you should have KNOWN those were not the right locations, there is a lot of things being kinda dumb in the plot like for example, why would you choose to blow the 3 bombs on the same location if your goal is to cause as much damage as possible and also placing the 3 bombs in the same place will make it like WAY easier for it to be deactivated

Now, regarding those things I said I would cover once I watched this one to flesh out my thoughts, there are multiple things. First of all, all of the characters seem slightly psychopatic?, like, in most action films the protagonist is often not really enjoying it, they do it because they have to, in mission impossible they kill everyone with a smile in their face. William brandt in a scene was like "ohhhhhhhhhh this is so boring that I have to sit back and like hack stuff why can't I go in and shoot people" and i'm like wtf is wrong with you

Their concept of morality is also extremely fucked. The mission is not their first priority as it should be when there are 3 nuclear warheads about to explode in a unknown location, instead, that is the life of their friends, they're willing to risk their lifes to save 1 person. Seeing this you would go "ah, they are moralist and pacifist, I see, they do not want to kill anyone" that is absolutely not true, because the moment someone crosses them they kill them like if they were flies.

This point is actually brought up in both movies i've seen, as the CIA representative kinda go "dudes you should focus on the mission, casualties are to be expected in both sides" which i'm like THANK YOU SOMEONE SMART IN THIS MOVIE but then they make her comically villainistic to a point where I cant vouch for her either. That just showcases that the writing of the characters is very flat, they're either super cool and their life is worth more than the lifes of the entire rest of the planet or they're bad and deserve to be killed without showing mercy.

I know this movie is just meant to have cool stunts and stuff but like come on, can you make the characters not slightly psychopatic?

also, I don't think they know how to write women either, because every time there is a woman on screen there is genuinly sexual tension between them and the protagonist, and it's like whyyyyyyyyyyyy

placed in c tier I guess some of the stunts were cool I guess (also while I did enjoy this movie less than the prevous and retroactively made me enjoy the previous even less, I am not going to edit the rating, this is probably a D tier but i'm putting it in C tier just because I want to keep things consistent and I don't want to change my previous ratings)

Patatitta wrote:

Mission Impossible 6: Fallout

Everything I said about the previous movie applies to this one as well, it's mostly about the stakes rather than the stunts themselves, the story is bad, and generally there isn't that much to bite on here

The plot in this one is extra nonsensical, it's about a terrorist group obtaining 3 nuclear bombs that the IMF must stop. there are some pretty nice plot holes, like the first scene they kidnap and convince the designer of the bombs for information on them, they convince them by making them believe the bombs have already exploded, however, as it turns out the location of the actual bombs will turn out to be entirerily different so like how the fuck did they convince them like you should have KNOWN those were not the right locations, there is a lot of things being kinda dumb in the plot like for example, why would you choose to blow the 3 bombs on the same location if your goal is to cause as much damage as possible and also placing the 3 bombs in the same place will make it like WAY easier for it to be deactivated

Now, regarding those things I said I would cover once I watched this one to flesh out my thoughts, there are multiple things. First of all, all of the characters seem slightly psychopatic?, like, in most action films the protagonist is often not really enjoying it, they do it because they have to, in mission impossible they kill everyone with a smile in their face. William brandt in a scene was like "ohhhhhhhhhh this is so boring that I have to sit back and like hack stuff why can't I go in and shoot people" and i'm like wtf is wrong with you

Their concept of morality is also extremely fucked. The mission is not their first priority as it should be when there are 3 nuclear warheads about to explode in a unknown location, instead, that is the life of their friends, they're willing to risk their lifes to save 1 person. Seeing this you would go "ah, they are moralist and pacifist, I see, they do not want to kill anyone" that is absolutely not true, because the moment someone crosses them they kill them like if they were flies.

This point is actually brought up in both movies i've seen, as the CIA representative kinda go "dudes you should focus on the mission, casualties are to be expected in both sides" which i'm like THANK YOU SOMEONE SMART IN THIS MOVIE but then they make her comically villainistic to a point where I cant vouch for her either. That just showcases that the writing of the characters is very flat, they're either super cool and their life is worth more than the lifes of the entire rest of the planet or they're bad and deserve to be killed without showing mercy.

I know this movie is just meant to have cool stunts and stuff but like come on, can you make the characters not slightly psychopatic?

also, I don't think they know how to write women either, because every time there is a woman on screen there is genuinly sexual tension between them and the protagonist, and it's like whyyyyyyyyyyyy

placed in c tier I guess some of the stunts were cool I guess (also while I did enjoy this movie less than the prevous and retroactively made me enjoy the previous even less, I am not going to edit the rating, this is probably a D tier but i'm putting it in C tier just because I want to keep things consistent and I don't want to change my previous ratings)

ay thanks for the review


I rated the movie good because it was one of the first movies I've seen after the pandemic and I don't really watch movies that much, so when I watched this movie I actually enjoyed it a whole lot

remember, my opinion is not law, my ratings and opinions are as subjective as they get, you don't need to justify yourself for liking the movie or whatever, in fact call my analysis shit if you think it's like that

all your analyses are shit
will not elaborate

metro last light

burgernfat wrote:

metro last light

should I play metro 2033 first?

Patatitta wrote:

burgernfat wrote:

metro last light

should I play metro 2033 first?

the game sorta tells you what you do in 2033 so it's not really necessary. also i guess i should warn you since a lot of people get upset about these things, this game crashes a lot. as far as i know there is nothing you can do to outright stop the crashes, but disabling advanced physx helps to reduce them.

Does Last Light Redux not fix the issue?

will play metro but honestly I may not be able to start it for a week or two since I need to finish any of the videogames I'm currently playing before starting it

watch Life of Pi

abraker wrote:

watch Life of Pi

sure

life of pi

really good movie, I enjoyed

I would like to say that religion is a touchy subject in films and in media in general, but it actually really isn't, almost everything that I have consumed that involves religion frames it in a negative light. There are very few examples of things i've watched being sympathetic torwards religion. First they complain about the church being corrupt and that translates also into science being like cool and like we have math and equations and we can prove thing and the religious text makes no sense and

Look, i'm not religious myself, I'm not even agnostic, but I love seeing a movie being actually compassionate torwards religion, not only does it frame it in a positive light, but it makes some pretty interesting analysis and really has points to back their position

The movie is actually a conversation between two men, one person who is very sceptic and the second person who promised to tell a story that would make them want to believe in god. While in the movie they're directly talking about god and frame it as a conversation about god, the point that it makes aren't exclusive to proving that god exists or not, and that is becasue as I've just said, it's just a story that would make them want to make them believe in god. To give them faith, they aren't going to try to prove that god exist, because that cant be proven, but to show the benefits of having faith in something, be it god or be it anything else.

pi in the story is a exceptional and very smart man, one that starts believing in religion. But unlike most people, pi would start seeing good points in every religion, they didn't take part in a single religion, they were a hinduist, a christian and a muslim all at the same time. By doing so they're disregarding the structure and teachings of each church, as no religion really allows you to believe in other religion. In fact a member of their family tells pi to just choose one, but that is missing the big picture here

believing in god and praying made pi's life better, they didn't care if the religions were at direct odds with each other, as long as they have faith, they could harvest benefits from them.

The ending also kinda confirms and reinforce that theme, as the story is shown to (likely) be a invention, and they in a very small ammount of time tell them a story that is more grounded, both stories can't be proven, so you just have to choose what to beieve in

I also really like that in the survival segment of the movie, more than anything, the psychological needs of pi is the main point. Something that many other stories about survival would have skipped. In the philosophy and religious beliefs of pi all life is sacred and he is no one to take away a life, be it one of a animal, like for the example, the big fucking tiger in the boat that wants to eat them. But pi doesn't just try to not kill the animal, they try to keep it alive.

This sounds really dumb, and it likely is very dumb, but pi manage to justify their decision, they have faith in their morals, which translates them to not killing the tiger, and by keeping the tiger alive, they're giving themselves meaning to their life, to take care of the tiger. The fear and needs of the tiger keeps pi sane

I think the movie just makes a lot of really good points generally, I do think that comparing science to religion is kinda missing the point, yes, religion is a way to explain the universe, but it's more than that.

If you disregard religion and focus entirerily on science, you may find yourself gravitating and teaching yourself philosophy, because having direction and meaning in your life is kinda cool, (or fuck it, some philosophies disregard those concepts but like being confident in that philosophy, having faith on it, makes your life better, and that's the point). And that philosophy aspect is the one thing religion and churches offer you that raw science can't ever offer you.

also the movie just looks like really fucking good, nothing much to comment on there

just a really good movie, I wish more pieces of media didn't frame religion in such a negative light, I enjoyed it a lot, A rank.

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have yet to start metro

not sure if it already has been requested but paprika

has been one my favorite movies so far

Aireunaeus wrote:

not sure if it already has been requested but paprika

has been one my favorite movies so far

you can check if I have done something or not doing control f on the OP, I have a list of everything that has been covered.

Anyways, i've not done paprika, but I do have watched it (again, you can check what I have seen or not by my signature)


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Paprika

Not very different to perfect blue/millenium actress tbh

The plot of paprika is that a technology is invented to access people dream and stuff, it's generally surrealistic, and like perfect blue or millenium actress, it's focused heavily on that idea of not being able to differentiate reality and fiction

My general problem is that it wasn't too memorable?, like I'm struggling to really remember what happens in it, I will say that when I watched this movie I already had seen the two other already mentioned, and this movie just doesn't do things that differently, and also not really better than the other two. The animation itself isn't also very crazy, which is kinda surprising because movies like this tend to be more avant garde in that front. The OST is stellar however

it's better than inception tho

i'm sorry I just don't have much to say about this movie, placed in B rank because I remember being good and that all the satoshi kon were roughly equal in quality