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Kanako Kakino - Lunatea Waltz

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Senbon
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, February 15, 2010 at 11:03:44 AM

Artist: Kanako Kakino
Title: Lunatea Waltz
Source: Klonoa 2 - Lunatea's Veil
Tags: OST
BPM: 140
Filesize: 2215kb
Play Time: 01:19
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.37 stars, 75 notes)
  2. Hard (4.83 stars, 213 notes)
  3. Normal (3.35 stars, 118 notes)
Download: Kanako Kakino - Lunatea Waltz
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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For AeonWing's Klonoa 2 OST Discography project: forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&p=210681

World Map theme #1.

Wingin' It difficulty by: AeonWing: http://www.mediafire.com/?iyhywwgvyty

Modders List: AeonWing, 0_o, happy30, osu_CN_yaya, babble, Yoshi348, minyeob, Kytoxid. Essien, Nharox, Tanmak, tmokb93, fartownik, Shulin, [DBF], Larto, James2250
AeonWing
Oh wow you were fast. Lol thanks, I'll add this link to our thread.

Mod:
Overall: For the sound changes, you should use 1/4 forward or back just in case people click the slider/circle earlier.

Easy:
00:59:570 (?) Might want to add some notes here and there.

Normal:
no problems found.

Hard:
00:55:498 (1): Slider goes out of map a lil bit.


star~
Topic Starter
Senbon

AeonWing wrote:

Oh wow you were fast. Lol thanks, I'll add this link to our thread.

Mod:
Overall: For the sound changes, you should use 1/4 forward or back just in case people click the slider/circle earlier. You mean the timing sections? Yeah I should fix the offset on those.

Easy:
00:59:570 (?) Might want to add some notes here and there. Done.

Normal:
no problems found.

Hard:
00:55:498 (1): Slider goes out of map a lil bit. Done.


star~
Thanks. 8)
AeonWing
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
Senbon
Go ahead. <3
AeonWing
My diff:
Feel free to re-name it if you would like.
Download: Kanako Kakino - Lunatea Waltz (Senbon) [Wingin' It].osu
Topic Starter
Senbon
Wow, really quick. Thanks. ^^
AeonWing
no prob ^.^
I think I made a good diff xP
0_o
Easy
00:05:35 (6,1) - Swap new combos, the new phrase starts where 6 is now
00:10:49 (6) - New combo for consistency with the previous combo (if you don't do the above, put the new combo on 7 instead)
00:46:92 (6) - New combo?
01:06:21 (5) - Pretty big jump for an easy/compared to the rest of the map. I would Ctrl-R this, then move the rest of the combo accordingly. (Also new combo?)

Normal
00:46:49 (1) - The only long combo in the map, so it seems kinda weird. Make this a part of either the combo before or after?

Hard
00:40:49 (7,8,9) - The spacing here tripped me up, I know the entire combo is widely spaced but it's decieving since this part is spaced the same as the 1/2 beats before the combo. I would use 1.2x snap here.
00:45:64 (6) - It looks kinda clustered here with the previous hitbursts in the way.
00:46:49 (7) - New combo and 00:47:35 (1) - remove new combo for phrasing reasons
00:57:85 (5,6,7) - OK this spacing is really screwed up :P
00:57:21 (2) - New combo, and you can pick whether or not to keep the new combo on 00:55:49 (1)
01:00:85 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - The difficulty here is disproportional to the rest of the map
01:08:14 (2) - Could you move this (and the rest of the combo) closer to 1 for neatness sake?

Wingin it
00:19:71 (6) - This slider starts in a weird spot, I would move it either back or ahead 1/2 (adding/removing hitcircles as necessary)
00:29:78 (1,2) - These are just plain weird, the sudden velocity change doesn't fit imo
00:34:49 (3) - Move ahead 1/2
00:44:35 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I don't really mind this, it's just weird when it's the first 1/4 sequence in the whole map. Could you maybe add more 1/4 parts before this so it fits better?
01:03:85 (5,7) - These claps don't sound good
01:07:49 (3) - >_>
01:11:35 (1) - Remove new combo and 01:12:21 (3) - New combo

Nice relaxing map :)

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Topic Starter
Senbon
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
happy30
[Easy]

I wasn't really impressed with the hitsounds sorry, they were kinda random. But, no flaws here.

[Normal]

Basically the same as for [Easy]
I would put a soft hitsound for the very last spinner here.

[Wiingin' it]

00:29:78 (1,2) - i was like wtf, I missed too
00:44:35 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I found this not fitting here. actually any streams dont fit this song
00:55:92 (1) - I think this slider is a bit ugly
01:07:49 (3) - nooooo! again ><, ending isnt snapped correctly. Just get out with this thing!

[Hard]

Spacing was very well done, good job ^^
just the ending spinner could use a soft hitsound.
Topic Starter
Senbon

happy30 wrote:

[Easy]

I wasn't really impressed with the hitsounds sorry, they were kinda random. But, no flaws here. Now that you mention it, I agree. XD I made them more reasonable. :)

[Normal]

Basically the same as for [Easy] Made them better.. I hope.
I would put a soft hitsound for the very last spinner here. Done

[Hard]

Spacing was very well done, good job ^^ Thanks ^^
just the ending spinner could use a soft hitsound. Done
yaya
[easy]

sorry . i think normal hitsound is not fix this song . Especially the normal finish.

[normal]

like easy

[wingin]

00:21:85 (4) - no this clap . thanks.
00:29:78 (1,2) - nonono. ugly. confusing.hard to follow . becuz this is a RELAX map .
01:07:49 (3) - no . thanks

[hard]

00:40:71 (9,10,11) - distance .
also . hitsound

not bad map . hitsounds are little noisy
Topic Starter
Senbon

osu_CN_yaya wrote:

[easy]

sorry . i think normal hitsound is not fix this song . Especially the normal finish. Removed.

[normal]

like easy Removed

[hard]

00:40:71 (9,10,11) - distance . Moved (10)
also . hitsound I fixed the majority of it.

not bad map . hitsounds are little noisy Turned down the volume.
Thanks for your time
AeonWing
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Kanako Kakino - Lunatea Waltz (Senbon) [Wingin' It].osu
Babble
Heya Senbon, I really appreciate you looking over my map ^_^ So I decided to look at your part for the Klonoa 2 OST

Easy and Normal

Perfect. I can't find anything wrong at all

Hard

00:18:855 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don't understand why you changed to sound volume to normal here. Makes the circles I listed sound ugly and loud compared to this part of the song. IMO, it sounds great if you change normal to soft and add whistles on 1-8, but don't remove the finish from 4 and 8.

00:39:213 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) Same thing here, change timing to soft on the point right before here and add whistles on all the notes, but keep claps and finishes on the ones that have them

Wingin It

I don't see anything wrong per se, but then again I'm no good at anything harder that the average hard difficulty :(
Topic Starter
Senbon

babble wrote:

Heya Senbon, I really appreciate you looking over my map ^_^ So I decided to look at your part for the Klonoa 2 OST Oh, no prob. ^^

Easy and Normal

Perfect. I can't find anything wrong at all

Hard

00:18:855 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don't understand why you changed to sound volume to normal here. Makes the circles I listed sound ugly and loud compared to this part of the song. IMO, it sounds great if you change normal to soft and add whistles on 1-8, but don't remove the finish from 4 and 8. All Fixed

00:39:213 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) Same thing here, change timing to soft on the point right before here and add whistles on all the notes, but keep claps and finishes on the ones that have them Done, and fixed hit sounds

Wingin It

I don't see anything wrong per se, but then again I'm no good at anything harder that the average hard difficulty :(
Thanks for you time ^w^
Yoshi348
I can only personally see issues with Hard at the moment, so this is going well. As a personal style issue, I really don't like it when the song starts fading out DURING play, but I don't know if that's easily fixable without messing up the map in other ways.

[Hard]

00:39:21 (1-11) - The extra spacing throughout this combo compared to the rest of the map isn't intuitive at all.
00:59:78 (1-12) - ^second verse, same as the first
Topic Starter
Senbon

Yoshi348 wrote:

I can only personally see issues with Hard at the moment, so this is going well. As a personal style issue, I really don't like it when the song starts fading out DURING play, but I don't know if that's easily fixable without messing up the map in other ways. Might as well fade it out with it then...

[Hard]

00:39:21 (1-11) - The extra spacing throughout this combo compared to the rest of the map isn't intuitive at all. Sorry, no change
00:59:78 (1-12) - ^second verse, same as the first ^
Thanks for you mod and time, though. ^^



On a random note, I just realized 00:39:21 takes a shape of a blue dream stone. xD Cool coinkidink.
minyeob
Well, there were many things to make a fault with but they're not major issues.
Ex) You have to use more "New combo"s on Normal. 15 is too high

Map looks fine for me.
Topic Starter
Senbon

minyeob wrote:

Well, there were many things to make a fault with but they're not major issues.
Ex) You have to use more "New combo"s on Normal. 15 is too high fixed

Map looks fine for me.
Thanks ^^
Kytoxid
[All]

Preview point not set.

01:16:07 (1) - I'd remove the finish, and possibly silence it, since the music is fading out.

[Easy]

00:08:78 (4,5,1,2) - 1-2 is a bit closer than 5-1. Maybe move these so that 5 is right to the left of 4, and then 1-2 form an equilateral triangle above it?
01:04:49 (4,1,2) - Slight nazi, but up to this point, 1/1 haven't had any overlap, so maybe space these out a bit.

[Normal]

00:20:35 (1,2) - Consider turning 2 so that it's parallel to 1.
00:30:64 (5) - Move this down a grid, for better spacing?
00:33:64 (4,5) - A bit closer than the others.
01:06:21 (2,3) - A bit farther than the others.

[Hard]

00:13:71 (10) - I think it sounds better without this note. Nonetheless, if you keep the note, shift the timing section for it a bit earlier (1/4 should do) in case the player hits the note early.
00:10:92 (2,3,4) - 2-3 don't overlap, but 3-4 do. (not going to pick on this for the rest of the song)
00:22:28 (5) - Move this upwards to line it up with 4?
00:37:92 (8) - Maybe shift this note to where the 6 was before.
00:39:21 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'd make this not-lopsided.
00:57:85 (4,5) - Quite an unexpected jump.

[Wingin' It]

00:10:49 (12) - New combo?
01:19:92 (1) - Maybe end this a bit earlier.

Cool maps/songs. :)
Topic Starter
Senbon

Kytoxid wrote:

[All]

Preview point not set. Done

01:16:07 (1) - I'd remove the finish, and possibly silence it, since the music is fading out. Done

[Easy]

00:08:78 (4,5,1,2) - 1-2 is a bit closer than 5-1. Maybe move these so that 5 is right to the left of 4, and then 1-2 form an equilateral triangle above it? done
01:04:49 (4,1,2) - Slight nazi, but up to this point, 1/1 haven't had any overlap, so maybe space these out a bit. Done

[Normal]

00:20:35 (1,2) - Consider turning 2 so that it's parallel to 1. Done
00:30:64 (5) - Move this down a grid, for better spacing? Done
00:33:64 (4,5) - A bit closer than the others. Done
01:06:21 (2,3) - A bit farther than the others. Done

[Hard]

00:13:71 (10) - I think it sounds better without this note. Nonetheless, if you keep the note, shift the timing section for it a bit earlier (1/4 should do) in case the player hits the note early. shifted the timing
00:10:92 (2,3,4) - 2-3 don't overlap, but 3-4 do. (not going to pick on this for the rest of the song) fixed
00:22:28 (5) - Move this upwards to line it up with 4? no
00:37:92 (8) - Maybe shift this note to where the 6 was before. Done
00:39:21 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'd make this not-lopsided. nope
00:57:85 (4,5) - Quite an unexpected jump. fixed

[Wingin' It]

00:10:49 (12) - New combo?
01:19:92 (1) - Maybe end this a bit earlier.

Cool maps/songs. :)
Thanks~
Essien_old
Easy:
01:16:927 (6): Maybe new combo?
01:19:927 (11): Move a grid up.

Normal:
00:01:070 (2): Move a grid right to align with (1).
00:23:355 (6): Align with (4).
00:46:498 (1): No need for new combo.
00:55:498 (3): Move a grid up to align with (1).

Hard:
00:55:498 (1): Weird shape.
01:00:855 (6-12): Spacing (unless it's a jump).

Wingin' it:
no probs.


star~
Topic Starter
Senbon

Essien wrote:

Easy:
01:16:927 (6): Maybe new combo? Done
01:19:927 (11): Move a grid up. Done

Normal:
00:01:070 (2): Move a grid right to align with (1). Done
00:23:355 (6): Align with (4). Done
00:46:498 (1): No need for new combo. Done
00:55:498 (3): Move a grid up to align with (1). Done

Hard:
00:55:498 (1): Weird shape.
01:00:855 (6-12): Spacing (unless it's a jump).

Wingin' it:
no probs.


star~
thanks
Nharox
[Wingin' It]

00:28:070 (10) - Too close to the previous note.
00:43:070 (6) - This slider looks like out of place.
00:50:784 (1) - Remove combo

[Hard]

00:29:355 (1) - Too close to the previous note.
00:34:498 (9) - New combo
00:34:927 (1) - Remove old combo
00:35:784 (5) - New combo
01:04:498 (6) - New combo
01:05:355 (1) - Remove old combo
01:13:070 (1) - Move this one closer to (2)

Sorry for the combo corrections but otherwise some players might find them confusing then (lol weird sentence).

[Easy & Normal] are fine.
Topic Starter
Senbon

Nharox wrote:

[Wingin' It]

00:28:070 (10) - Too close to the previous note.
00:43:070 (6) - This slider looks like out of place.
00:50:784 (1) - Remove combo

[Hard]

00:29:355 (1) - Too close to the previous note. fixed
00:34:498 (9) - New combo fixed
00:34:927 (1) - Remove old combo fixed
00:35:784 (5) - New combo fixed
01:04:498 (6) - New combo fixed
01:05:355 (1) - Remove old combo fixed
01:13:070 (1) - Move this one closer to (2) fixed

Sorry for the combo corrections but otherwise some players might find them confusing then (lol weird sentence).

[Easy & Normal] are fine.
thanks :D
Tanmak
Sorry to late modding T.T

[General]
I suggest that set preview time to 00:41:355. (All difficulty)

[Hard]
Some part, distance of between note and note is different in somewhere. @.@
I think you need to place note again with keeping spacing rule generally.

00:35:141 (1) Why new combo? Dissolve new combo.

The other difficulty is fine.

Starred.
Topic Starter
Senbon

Tanmak wrote:

Sorry to late modding T.T

[General]
I suggest that set preview time to 00:41:355. (All difficulty) Done

[Hard]
Some part, distance of between note and note is different in somewhere. @.@
I think you need to place note again with keeping spacing rule generally.

00:35:141 (1) Why new combo? Dissolve new combo. Done

The other difficulty is fine.

Starred.
:P
Mok
Mod's Info:
Mine are all suggestions. You're free to follow or not this mod :3 I'll just mod the beats in your map, in all its forms, will not tell you to add or remove the beat <3

[General]
Add some other tags.

[Easy]
00:50:355 (5) Move it 1/1 before and extend it by 1/1

[Normal]
Increase Circle Size by 1 (on the tick in the middle to Large and Normal)
Seems fine afterall ^^

[Hard]
00:04:070 (4,5,6) Move them 1/4 before and, if you like, add a hitcircle in 00:04:498

[Wingin' It]
Spacing is wrong! Recheck.

And that's all for your map. I hope you will ask again for a mod x3 Starred.
Topic Starter
Senbon

tmokb93 wrote:

Mod's Info:
Mine are all suggestions. You're free to follow or not this mod :3 I'll just mod the beats in your map, in all its forms, will not tell you to add or remove the beat <3

[General]
Add some other tags. I guess I should add AeonWing

[Easy]
00:50:355 (5) Move it 1/1 before and extend it by 1/1 moved it, but added note

[Normal]
Increase Circle Size by 1 (on the tick in the middle to Large and Normal) nah
Seems fine afterall ^^

[Hard]
00:04:070 (4,5,6) Move them 1/4 before and, if you like, add a hitcircle in 00:04:498 added a note in the space..

[Wingin' It]
Spacing is wrong! Recheck.

And that's all for your map. I hope you will ask again for a mod x3 Starred.
thankss
fartownik
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
Senbon
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Crazy Jay
[Wingin' It]
00:16:070(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this arrangement looks ugly,please use distance snap
00:19:498(7,8,9) - these 3 notes can be seen clearly,change it please
01:01:498(1) - cancel new combo

other things looks nice
+star :)
Shulin
General:

-- Make sure the preview point is the same on all difficulties.
-- Make sure tags are the same on all difficulties, also you don't need Klonoa in the tags since it's in the source.
-- Generally I didn't like the claps, imo you could use whistles instead but that's up to you.

Easy:

00:25:927 (5) - New combo.

Normal:

-- Set a preview point (make it the same as Hard)
-- Why is Aeonwing in tags only in this difficulty?

No major problems :)

Hard:

00:04:927 (8) - Just make this soft, it's the only place you go normal hitsounds and it sounds a little silly.
00:12:641 (6) - New combo?
00:15:213 (1) - Remove new combo?
00:16:070 (2) - New combo?
00:20:784 (1,2,3) - Align this, make it like 00:27:642 (5,6,7) -
00:28:285 (7) - Move down one square for symmetry.
00:33:213 (6,7) - Arrange these notes so they don't overlap?
00:49:070 (9) - New combo?
00:49:927 (10) - Remove finish from the start.
00:52:927 (6,7,8) - Move up two squares to align, adjust notes after if you take this suggestion.
00:53:355 (9) - Move this to the right with distance snap.
00:55:498 (1) - Remove new combo?

Overall: Check for combo consistency and alignment, in Hard you seem to use shorter combos towards the end (not sure if it was intentional.) Also are you still waiting for a guest difficulty? If not make sure to update the beatmap description. Anyway, all the maps are good so let me know about changes and then I'll give a proto bubble.

~ Star + Kudos Star.
Topic Starter
Senbon

Shulin wrote:

General:

-- Make sure the preview point is the same on all difficulties. Done
-- Make sure tags are the same on all difficulties, also you don't need Klonoa in the tags since it's in the source. Done
-- Generally I didn't like the claps, imo you could use whistles instead but that's up to you. I removed a lot :P They do sound nasty

Easy:

00:25:927 (5) - New combo. Done

Normal:

-- Set a preview point (make it the same as Hard) I changed it for all before reading this part. XD
-- Why is Aeonwing in tags only in this difficulty? Deleted ;-;

No major problems :)

Hard:

00:04:927 (8) - Just make this soft, it's the only place you go normal hitsounds and it sounds a little silly. Done
00:12:641 (6) - New combo? Done
00:15:213 (1) - Remove new combo? Done
00:16:070 (2) - New combo? Done
00:20:784 (1,2,3) - Align this, make it like 00:27:642 (5,6,7) - Done
00:28:285 (7) - Move down one square for symmetry. Done
00:33:213 (6,7) - Arrange these notes so they don't overlap? dONE
00:49:070 (9) - New combo? Done
00:49:927 (10) - Remove finish from the start. Done
00:52:927 (6,7,8) - Move up two squares to align, adjust notes after if you take this suggestion. Done
00:53:355 (9) - Move this to the right with distance snap. Done
00:55:498 (1) - Remove new combo? Done

Overall: Check for combo consistency and alignment, in Hard you seem to use shorter combos towards the end (not sure if it was intentional.) Also are you still waiting for a guest difficulty? If not make sure to update the beatmap description. Anyway, all the maps are good so let me know about changes and then I'll give a proto bubble.

Well... this has been pending too long, and he hasn't been on in months. So I guess no more. :(

~ Star + Kudos Star. Thank you :D
Shulin
Proto Bubbled :D
[DBF]
[Easy]
00:46:498 - maybe add a bit?
1:19:927-1:21:213 - maybe add spinner?

[Normal]
all good.
[Hard]
00:09:641 - remove clap.
00:45:641 - ^

1:15:213 - spacing?

Relax good map, star~
Topic Starter
Senbon

[DBF] wrote:

[Easy]
00:46:498 - maybe add a bit?
1:19:927-1:21:213 - maybe add spinner?[/color] done
[Normal]
all good.
[Hard]
00:09:641 - remove clap.
00:45:641 - ^[/color] done
1:15:213 - spacing? done

Relax good map, star~
thanks yiou
Larto
Folder:
Remove the .osb from the folder, then full submit.

Timing:
Offset: 202

Hard:
Good!

Normal:
Good!

Easy:
01:02:784 (2,3) - I dislike how 3 overlaps 2 a bit. It's just a bit ugly, so if you don't really want to change it, you don't have to :)

Great map! Keep up the good work!
Topic Starter
Senbon

Larto wrote:

Folder:
Remove the .osb from the folder, then full submit. removed

Timing:
Offset: 202 applied and snapped!

Hard:
Good!

Normal:
Good!

Easy:
01:02:784 (2,3) - I dislike how 3 overlaps 2 a bit. It's just a bit ugly, so if you don't really want to change it, you don't have to :) spaced accordingly

Great map! Keep up the good work!
thanks :D
James2250
easy:
00:10:059 (1,2) - I would switch new combo to 2
00:46:487 (6,1) - switch new combo?

normal:
looks good

hard:
00:53:773 (1,2) - make new combo on 2?

*star*
Topic Starter
Senbon

James2250 wrote:

easy:
00:10:059 (1,2) - I would switch new combo to 2 done
00:46:487 (6,1) - switch new combo? done

normal:
looks good

hard:
00:53:773 (1,2) - make new combo on 2? done

*star*
thanks
Larto
=D
minyeob
:D
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