If it's been a few seconds and O/X hasn't come up, then you obviously will have enough time.strager wrote:
I'd waste half the break waiting for the O/X in that case.
Gemi wrote:
I do feel your pain and support this if someone comes up with a nice way to show it.
Paradox!mtmcl wrote:
Is Gemi just the guy who comes out of nowhere to disagree with things?
Me too. I approveGemi wrote:
I do feel your pain and support this if someone comes up with a nice way to show it.
Nah, more like laziness. He likes to stretch as well lolstrager wrote:
Gemi wrote:
I do feel your pain and support this if someone comes up with a nice way to show it.Paradox!mtmcl wrote:
Is Gemi just the guy who comes out of nowhere to disagree with things?
More precisely, I tend to pop in when something seems to go into the wrong direction (in my opinion) and that's usually when people start to support a stupid idea. Sometimes it's actually a new feature which would be great, but some people disagree with it for no real reason. So yeah, this approach causes me to be there mostly only when I disagree, but not always.strager wrote:
Gemi wrote:
I do feel your pain and support this if someone comes up with a nice way to show it.Paradox!mtmcl wrote:
Is Gemi just the guy who comes out of nowhere to disagree with things?
Why shouldn't you? It's just a small thing to make playing more enjoyable for players. There is no harm in adding it and it would definitely be a nice small thing that makes playing just a tad more fun.Echo wrote:
Also, the only time you wouldn't know where the breaks are is the first time you play the map, right? I don't see why you should get help for FC'ing a map first time.
Gens wrote:
The feature sounds good, but it's low priority...
I'm not.Gens wrote:
Don't forget the normal progress bar! It's what I use :<
Gens wrote:
Don't forget the normal progress bar! It's what I use :<
I used to use one of the progress bars, but I seem to like the pie better (mmm pie).Derekku Chan wrote:
Showing a different color in the pie graph or whatever progress bar is used might be a cute little addition.
agreed... i don't see a point to this at all.Echo wrote:
It's completely unnecessary.
Play once - now you already know where all the breaks are. Why do you need any more cues?
This information is absolutely NO harm to ANYONE and I don't see why adding it in the game is such a bad thing for you guys. It wont distrupt your play at all, but it will be fun/helpful for others, so what's the problem?you are right this doesn't harm anyone directly, however this affects peppys time, and he doesn't have much time. the little time he has can imo be spent on much better things then adding things like this. unless this is easy to code or someone can easily code it for him, i'd rather they spent time on more important things.
Sounds good to me~peppy wrote:
I would support colouring break time on the pie, but AFTER it has occurred. I am strongly against showing breaks before they are played out, but think it would be a nice effect to colour the break time as you go. Or even gradient the pie based on performance or something.
Actually you CAN expect this, because we have a very clear visual representation of the correct rhythms. A good player can get a full combo or 100% on a sightread on many songs. The only thing you cannot sightread well are sudden slider speed changes. (which brings forth the point whether those should be shown in advance somehow too)Gabi wrote:
no, people SHOULD be forced to play through a song. this is a rythm game, you can't simply expect to know the rythm of the song the first time you hear/play it.
I like it.peppy wrote:
I would support colouring break time on the pie, but AFTER it has occurred. I am strongly against showing breaks before they are played out, but think it would be a nice effect to colour the break time as you go. Or even gradient the pie based on performance or something.
Ok now we are officially off topic.peppy wrote:
I would support colouring break time on the pie, but AFTER it has occurred. I am strongly against showing breaks before they are played out, but think it would be a nice effect to colour the break time as you go. Or even gradient the pie based on performance or something.
Sounds cool and silly at the same time. =]Sir Minelli wrote:
... though, gradient the pie based on your performance sounds interesting.
Wrong wrong wrong.Gemi wrote:
Actually you CAN expect this, because we have a very clear visual representation of the correct rhythms. A good player can get a full combo or 100% on a sightread on many songs. The only thing you cannot sightread well are sudden slider speed changes. (which brings forth the point whether those should be shown in advance somehow too)
Spacing is irrelevant as we have approach circles that show exactly what the timing is. If you are good enough you'll be able to sightread 100% anything regardless of spacing. Yes, "correct" spacing can help sightreading a lot, but I was referring to the existence of approach circles with my comment.Echo wrote:
Wrong wrong wrong.Gemi wrote:
Actually you CAN expect this, because we have a very clear visual representation of the correct rhythms. A good player can get a full combo or 100% on a sightread on many songs. The only thing you cannot sightread well are sudden slider speed changes. (which brings forth the point whether those should be shown in advance somehow too)
There never was any reason and never will be any reason for a person to be able to sight read a map and get 100%.
In fact, it was this goal that broke so many maps.</personal opinion>
Spacing is meant to be an indication, but NOT a means to help people achieve 100% on their first try. Failing and retrying is a part of any rhythm game, no matter how good you are.
This is quite likely the stupidest thing I've read on these forums. The ultimate point of any rhythm game (perhaps any game for that matter) is to achieve 100% and the better you become the faster you'll be able to accomplish this. Obviously the limit of that would be 100% on sight reads (admittedly Osu! is much harder to do this on than something like DDR).Echo wrote:
Wrong wrong wrong.
There never was any reason and never will be any reason for a person to be able to sight read a map and get 100%.
In fact, it was this goal that broke so many maps.</personal opinion>
Spacing is meant to be an indication, but NOT a means to help people achieve 100% on their first try. Failing and retrying is a part of any rhythm game, no matter how good you are.
I'm actually just responding to Echo's assertion that "There never was any reason and never will be any reason for a person to be able to sight read a map and get 100%" which admittedly is off topic. I understand that they're talking about breaks but they're also talking about the validity and viability of sight reading.peppy wrote:
@bbobjs: you are missing the point of this thread. They are talking about BREAKS "throwing" you off, not patterns.
Yeah, wasn't that already said a few times in this thread?nazenaze wrote:
maybe the pie for break can be used the same way as it's used before the map starts? But this time instead of gray it can be coloured with red? So the whole pie is the break length and it's being filled radially according to % time left, so you can guess how much time you have.