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loserotaku
i just cant rank up does anyone know a way to rank up to combat this?
Chino_Archive
idk I've been hardstuck forever now, too.

What I've done in the past is usually just play maps for improvement, and eventually they become easy to FC/Acc. Make sure you're playing a variety of maps, and always aim to learn something from them and improve your previous scores in one way or another (better acc, combo, or something specific like trying to read a pattern better or work on your technique in a certain map). It's good to play stuff slightly out of your comfort zone, but also playing maps that you know you can easily FC is good to build consistency and help with playing with nerves (if that's a problem you have)

You will always have rank plateau, there's really nothing you can do about that, but as long as you keep practicing and playing as much as you can, you will eventually find a lot of maps easy to FC and gain some ranks.
[darkness]
community/forums/topics/1731106?n=1

this person has the same problem i think, you should check their forum post!
kujubuo
If farming doesnt give you ranks anymore just focus on improving instead of farming. i dont think you have ever actually tried to focus on improvement thats why you are such an slow improver just stop with the farming for now

[darkness] wrote:

community/forums/topics/1731106?n=1

this person has the same problem i think, you should check their forum post!
yeah you should check that post loserotaku!
rematyar
Don't go barking on forums my to complain why you can't rank up. Just play the game...

...or not, your decision ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Just my experience, if you look at my graph. I did that because I played a bunch of maps
WitherMite
Starting to think this loserotaku guy has dementia
Topic Starter
loserotaku

birdseedpro wrote:

idk I've been hardstuck forever now, too.

What I've done in the past is usually just play maps for improvement, and eventually they become easy to FC/Acc. Make sure you're playing a variety of maps, and always aim to learn something from them and improve your previous scores in one way or another (better acc, combo, or something specific like trying to read a pattern better or work on your technique in a certain map). It's good to play stuff slightly out of your comfort zone, but also playing maps that you know you can easily FC is good to build consistency and help with playing with nerves (if that's a problem you have)

You will always have rank plateau, there's really nothing you can do about that, but as long as you keep practicing and playing as much as you can, you will eventually find a lot of maps easy to FC and gain some ranks.
ill try to just pay random 4 stars to become consistant at those
Stomiks
duhhh good mindset
soft kitten
ive been at the same rank for 2 years maybe one day u will hit it big
anaxii
I'll jump out of the window
Stomiks

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

I'll jump out of the window
Don't! Loser will suck the osu skill out of your unconscious body!
anaxii

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

I'll jump out of the window
Don't! Loser will suck the osu skill out of your unconscious body!
It's either that or I'M GOING CRAZY BECAUSE OF HIS THREADS THAT ALL FREAKING LOOK THE SAME
Stomiks

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

I'll jump out of the window
Don't! Loser will suck the osu skill out of your unconscious body!
It's either that or I'M GOING CRAZY BECAUSE OF HIS THREADS THAT ALL FREAKING LOOK THE SAME
I mean, what else does he has to do? Actually play the game?
BlueChinchompa
Just buy new genetics. I recommend mrekks.
anaxii

BlueChinchompa wrote:

Just buy new genetics. I recommend mrekks.
Genetics are for p*ssies, but enjoying game are for GIGACHAD
Stomiks

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

BlueChinchompa wrote:

Just buy new genetics. I recommend mrekks.
Genetics are for p*ssies, but enjoying game are for GIGACHAD
Genetics let you win tourneys with cash prizes :cry:
__scripting

__scripting wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

I'll jump out of the window
its always ever a pleasure to see responses on loserotaku posts..

kujubuo wrote:

If farming doesnt give you ranks anymore just focus on improving instead of farming. i dont think you have ever actually tried to focus on improvement thats why you are such an slow improver just stop with the farming for now
what happens when you are a REALLY slow improver player(no farmer) but still cant farm on easy jump maps??
=' )

genetics wins, gg, quit the game.
kujubuo

__scripting wrote:

__scripting wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

I'll jump out of the window
its always ever a pleasure to see responses on loserotaku posts..

kujubuo wrote:

If farming doesnt give you ranks anymore just focus on improving instead of farming. i dont think you have ever actually tried to focus on improvement thats why you are such an slow improver just stop with the farming for now
what happens when you are a REALLY slow improver player(no farmer) but still cant farm on easy jump maps??
=' )

genetics wins, gg, quit the game.
playing too hard maps and not trying to actually improve and just only enjoying game probably will make you a really slow improver. People say enjoy the game all the time but if you want to improve thats just not true lol. You really have to grind the game and grind some scores. Thats how top players improve. Though by grinding scores i dont mean just retry spamming lmao. You have to put in the effort i guess.

Like for example every time i always played like only sightreading and never trying to grind some scores i didnt improve. But at the same time there was also times all i did was just only retry spam to farm and that also didnt improve me. In my opinion playing maps fully but also giving the effort to improve your older scores is the best way. And no need to force yourself if you still cant improve your scores after like 4-5 tries or so. Just try it later
__scripting

kujubuo wrote:

__scripting wrote:

__scripting wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

I'll jump out of the window
its always ever a pleasure to see responses on loserotaku posts..

kujubuo wrote:

If farming doesnt give you ranks anymore just focus on improving instead of farming. i dont think you have ever actually tried to focus on improvement thats why you are such an slow improver just stop with the farming for now
what happens when you are a REALLY slow improver player(no farmer) but still cant farm on easy jump maps??
=' )

genetics wins, gg, quit the game.
playing too hard maps and not trying to actually improve and just only enjoying game probably will make you a really slow improver. People say enjoy the game all the time but if you want to improve thats just not true lol. You really have to grind the game and grind some scores. Thats how top players improve. Though by grinding scores i dont mean just retry spamming lmao. You have to put in the effort i guess.

Like for example every time i always played like only sightreading and never trying to grind some scores i didnt improve. But at the same time there was also times all i did was just only retry spam to farm and that also didnt improve me. In my opinion playing maps fully but also giving the effort to improve your older scores is the best way. And no need to force yourself if you still cant improve your scores after like 4-5 tries or so. Just try it later
i agree.
Ive been doing this for the past week offline and i have to confess... its all true :|
i grinded a beatmap that 12-15 days ago i barely got B ranks, or C ranks with poor acc, now the map is much easier for me

could be wrong there, but, i think the reason that me and others guys are so slow is because we have a "shitty intuition" for everything, literally need a "crutch" or a "teacher" to guide to play a simple game... idk how to play, idk what i need to play, idk if what im doing is alright, idk what skillset i need to grind, etc. this is the reason why i choose to play for fun and enjoy the game and copy the gamestyle of my fav streamers, i dont wanna get overthinking a circle game :D , per example, in the past i spent 18.000 playcount in low 3* range thinking that i was suddenly going to be very good at high stars map... aaand all i got is a fucking mindblocked nerve above my control from trying to SS or 99% every 3* low stars map, every choke soundeffect, 100 or sliderbreak it was a stab in my heart.

Now idntgivafck 8-) , its much better to be a pass player cmon

But in truth, i will never know the real reason to be soo slow.
this was my 620 accumulated hours of playtime outburst :?
anaxii

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

BlueChinchompa wrote:

Just buy new genetics. I recommend mrekks.
Genetics are for p*ssies, but enjoying game are for GIGACHAD
Genetics let you win tourneys with cash prizes :cry:
Then go for it, buy genetics and start being a tourneys player
WitherMite
stop playing, make graph go the other way, no longer stuck at same rank.
soft kitten
tunnel vision dt farming basically

rank doesnt mean anything, focus on enjoyment first and skill to farm will come shortly after
Stomiks

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

BlueChinchompa wrote:

Just buy new genetics. I recommend mrekks.
Genetics are for p*ssies, but enjoying game are for GIGACHAD
Genetics let you win tourneys with cash prizes :cry:
Then go for it, buy genetics and start being a tourneys player
Woah you can buy genetics? Where can I get one?
anaxii

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

BlueChinchompa wrote:

Just buy new genetics. I recommend mrekks.
Genetics are for p*ssies, but enjoying game are for GIGACHAD
Genetics let you win tourneys with cash prizes :cry:
Then go for it, buy genetics and start being a tourneys player
Woah you can buy genetics? Where can I get one?
In the black market near my home, I'll show you the place no worries
Topic Starter
loserotaku

rushia fangirl wrote:

tunnel vision dt farming basically

rank doesnt mean anything, focus on enjoyment first and skill to farm will come shortly after
not farming since short jump maps arent the meta
rematyar
Padoru gave me 286pp, quite the pp
Topic Starter
loserotaku

rematyar wrote:

Padoru gave me 286pp, quite the pp
like 4 reworks ago
rematyar

loserotaku wrote:

rematyar wrote:

Padoru gave me 286pp, quite the pp
like 4 reworks ago
Look at my top plays man

most of em are jumps, even if it's not the meta, still gives pp
kujubuo

loserotaku wrote:

rushia fangirl wrote:

tunnel vision dt farming basically

rank doesnt mean anything, focus on enjoyment first and skill to farm will come shortly after
not farming since short jump maps arent the meta
it still is the meta for lower ranked players lol. speed and consistency farm maps literally doesnt exist for lower ranks so jumps are pretty much the meta until 5 digit where consistency plays will get you more pp and until like mid 5 digit speed is pretty rare
Topic Starter
loserotaku

kujubuo wrote:

loserotaku wrote:

rushia fangirl wrote:

tunnel vision dt farming basically

rank doesnt mean anything, focus on enjoyment first and skill to farm will come shortly after
not farming since short jump maps arent the meta
it still is the meta for lower ranked players lol. speed and consistency farm maps literally doesnt exist for lower ranks so jumps are pretty much the meta until 5 digit where consistency plays will get you more pp and until like mid 5 digit speed is pretty rare
still not the meta tho so i am not a “farmer”
kujubuo

loserotaku wrote:

kujubuo wrote:

loserotaku wrote:

rushia fangirl wrote:

tunnel vision dt farming basically

rank doesnt mean anything, focus on enjoyment first and skill to farm will come shortly after
not farming since short jump maps arent the meta
it still is the meta for lower ranked players lol. speed and consistency farm maps literally doesnt exist for lower ranks so jumps are pretty much the meta until 5 digit where consistency plays will get you more pp and until like mid 5 digit speed is pretty rare
still not the meta tho so i am not a “farmer”
its the meta at lower ranks you are a farmer 💀💀💀💀

its literally the easiest thing you can farm at lower ranks.

if you really dont want to get called farmer just play tech maps or reading maps or finger control lmao.

edit: go to osu-pps.com literally every pp farm maps that give from 60 to 90 pp is jump maps,which is probably the range you are farming right now
Topic Starter
loserotaku

kujubuo wrote:

loserotaku wrote:

kujubuo wrote:

loserotaku wrote:

rushia fangirl wrote:

tunnel vision dt farming basically

rank doesnt mean anything, focus on enjoyment first and skill to farm will come shortly after
not farming since short jump maps arent the meta
it still is the meta for lower ranked players lol. speed and consistency farm maps literally doesnt exist for lower ranks so jumps are pretty much the meta until 5 digit where consistency plays will get you more pp and until like mid 5 digit speed is pretty rare
still not the meta tho so i am not a “farmer”
its the meta at lower ranks you are a farmer 💀💀💀💀

its literally the easiest thing you can farm at lower ranks.

if you really dont want to get called farmer just play tech maps or reading maps or finger control lmao.

edit: go to osu-pps.com literally every pp farm maps that give from 60 to 90 pp is jump maps,which is probably the range you are farming right now
that website hasnt updated. also imo the easiest 50 pp play ive gotten was on a 4 min consistency map
MrSparklepants
Just want to insert my thoughts, short jump maps are still somewhat meta despite many players believing jump maps are now underweighted. In fact you can still hit 4 digit with all or mostly short jump maps +(HD)DT.

But lets get into the definition of a farmer. What is a farmer? That question can vary depending on who you ask, some will say playing/retry spamming short jump maps that are worth a lot of PP for the person playing the maps. Others will say it's when players play maps that play into their specific skillset. You would never think of something like EZDT being farmable, but it very much is to a player like EZChamp (until like 600-700PP which is like the soft cap for most doable current EZDT scores). Is it ok to be a farmer, yes as long as you're having fun.

Now how would you get out of being hardstuck? I really wouldn't know because I've been around the same rank for over a year. But you are not hardstuck, you have made many top plays within the last month/2 months not to mention this month you haven't even played 1,000 times which means you only played around 26 times a day this month, in my opinion you'll want at least 100 plays a day for "maximum" improvement. Looking at your profile you don't have any recent plays which leads me to believe you either retry spam or quit after missing (bad habits that I still do sometimes). In conclusion... play more and start playing maps all the way through.

(osu-pps is accurate and is updated with newly ranked maps fairly regularly, I don't know the exact math formula(I'm extremely tired while typing this), but it appears that it takes into account some actual scores from the map leaderboards and spits out a PP value of getting an FC with 99-100% accuracy).

Now you may be asking why did I type of this just it to likely not be read? I was tired and bored, there's probably a lot of grammatical mistakes.
kujubuo

loserotaku wrote:

kujubuo wrote:

loserotaku wrote:

kujubuo wrote:

loserotaku wrote:

rushia fangirl wrote:

tunnel vision dt farming basically

rank doesnt mean anything, focus on enjoyment first and skill to farm will come shortly after
not farming since short jump maps arent the meta
it still is the meta for lower ranked players lol. speed and consistency farm maps literally doesnt exist for lower ranks so jumps are pretty much the meta until 5 digit where consistency plays will get you more pp and until like mid 5 digit speed is pretty rare
still not the meta tho so i am not a “farmer”
its the meta at lower ranks you are a farmer 💀💀💀💀

its literally the easiest thing you can farm at lower ranks.

if you really dont want to get called farmer just play tech maps or reading maps or finger control lmao.

edit: go to osu-pps.com literally every pp farm maps that give from 60 to 90 pp is jump maps,which is probably the range you are farming right now
that website hasnt updated. also imo the easiest 50 pp play ive gotten was on a 4 min consistency map
that website is updated what do you mean?????? it literally gets updated by what people farms

oh also that consistency play is only one of your top plays out of 100 just sayin

also look at top right it literally says updated: 23.05.2023

MrSparklepants wrote:

Just want to insert my thoughts, short jump maps are still somewhat meta despite many players believing jump maps are now underweighted. In fact you can still hit 4 digit with all or mostly short jump maps +(HD)DT.

But lets get into the definition of a farmer. What is a farmer? That question can vary depending on who you ask, some will say playing/retry spamming short jump maps that are worth a lot of PP for the person playing the maps. Others will say it's when players play maps that play into their specific skillset. You would never think of something like EZDT being farmable, but it very much is to a player like EZChamp (until like 600-700PP which is like the soft cap for most doable current EZDT scores). Is it ok to be a farmer, yes as long as you're having fun.

Now how would you get out of being hardstuck? I really wouldn't know because I've been around the same rank for over a year. But you are not hardstuck, you have made many top plays within the last month/2 months not to mention this month you haven't even played 1,000 times which means you only played around 26 times a day this month, in my opinion you'll want at least 100 plays a day for "maximum" improvement. Looking at your profile you don't have any recent plays which leads me to believe you either retry spam or quit after missing (bad habits that I still do sometimes). In conclusion... play more and start playing maps all the way through.

(osu-pps is accurate and is updated with newly ranked maps fairly regularly, I don't know the exact math formula(I'm extremely tired while typing this), but it appears that it takes into account some actual scores from the map leaderboards and spits out a PP value of getting an FC with 99-100% accuracy).

Now you may be asking why did I type of this just it to likely not be read? I was tired and bored, there's probably a lot of grammatical mistakes.
exactly
Akisu
Even though I’m a lower rank then you what I have noticed is to take breaks I usually grind scores for like 1-3 weeks and then take a break for like a month. Doesn’t mean you have you should take a break for a month💀 but I think that helps so you don’t burn out.
Another thing you can do is play longer maps instead of farming I’ve been starting to do that, they usually give more pp then sotarks 1-2 jumps and feel more rewarding. Maps you can try are diamond and M flat.
I’ve also been experimenting with three mod but sometimes if you play to much it will mess up your reading it also pushes you to try get better acc since one 100 will make you lose like 1% acc that’s all I have to say
Topic Starter
loserotaku

MrSparklepants wrote:

Just want to insert my thoughts, short jump maps are still somewhat meta despite many players believing jump maps are now underweighted. In fact you can still hit 4 digit with all or mostly short jump maps +(HD)DT.

But lets get into the definition of a farmer. What is a farmer? That question can vary depending on who you ask, some will say playing/retry spamming short jump maps that are worth a lot of PP for the person playing the maps. Others will say it's when players play maps that play into their specific skillset. You would never think of something like EZDT being farmable, but it very much is to a player like EZChamp (until like 600-700PP which is like the soft cap for most doable current EZDT scores). Is it ok to be a farmer, yes as long as you're having fun.

Now how would you get out of being hardstuck? I really wouldn't know because I've been around the same rank for over a year. But you are not hardstuck, you have made many top plays within the last month/2 months not to mention this month you haven't even played 1,000 times which means you only played around 26 times a day this month, in my opinion you'll want at least 100 plays a day for "maximum" improvement. Looking at your profile you don't have any recent plays which leads me to believe you either retry spam or quit after missing (bad habits that I still do sometimes). In conclusion... play more and start playing maps all the way through.

(osu-pps is accurate and is updated with newly ranked maps fairly regularly, I don't know the exact math formula(I'm extremely tired while typing this), but it appears that it takes into account some actual scores from the map leaderboards and spits out a PP value of getting an FC with 99-100% accuracy).

Now you may be asking why did I type of this just it to likely not be read? I was tired and bored, there's probably a lot of grammatical mistakes.
no rs because im moving rn and cant play
Stomiks

loserotaku wrote:

kujubuo wrote:

loserotaku wrote:

rushia fangirl wrote:

tunnel vision dt farming basically

rank doesnt mean anything, focus on enjoyment first and skill to farm will come shortly after
not farming since short jump maps arent the meta
it still is the meta for lower ranked players lol. speed and consistency farm maps literally doesnt exist for lower ranks so jumps are pretty much the meta until 5 digit where consistency plays will get you more pp and until like mid 5 digit speed is pretty rare
still not the meta tho so i am not a “farmer”
Just go play stream maps or some other skill if you don't want to be called a farmer geez. Also just being called a farmer is not much a concern regarding what other people are talking about you.
Akisu
How can you be hard stuck at rank 450k it’s probably that your overranked because I can see that you have 166 hours of play time and you are just playing easy maps for like +4 raw pp obviously this can’t be applied to everyone but a rank 450k should be a able to fc a nomod 4*
Cause I barely see any.I’m rank 580k and I play 3mod AR 9.5 and have 5* choke.you need to play harder maps or you gonna become BTMC
Stomiks
It's because he has this awful mindset about everything negative in osu. Genetics are everything, complains about not improving fast enough, always thinking he dosn't have a problem, etc.
anaxii

Stomiks wrote:

It's because he has this awful mindset about everything negative in osu. Genetics are everything, complains about not improving fast enough, always thinking he dosn't have a problem, etc.
I wonder if he's serious or just trolling
WitherMite

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

It's because he has this awful mindset about everything negative in osu. Genetics are everything, complains about not improving fast enough, always thinking he dosn't have a problem, etc.
I wonder if he's serious or just trolling
really dedicated to the bit if troll
Stomiks

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

It's because he has this awful mindset about everything negative in osu. Genetics are everything, complains about not improving fast enough, always thinking he dosn't have a problem, etc.
I wonder if he's serious or just trolling
If he his trolling, then what a huge waste of his life. There's a ton of productive things you can do besides making people upset on the internet.
anaxii

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

It's because he has this awful mindset about everything negative in osu. Genetics are everything, complains about not improving fast enough, always thinking he dosn't have a problem, etc.
I wonder if he's serious or just trolling
If he his trolling, then what a huge waste of his life. There's a ton of productive things you can do besides making people upset on the internet.
+1
kujubuo

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

It's because he has this awful mindset about everything negative in osu. Genetics are everything, complains about not improving fast enough, always thinking he dosn't have a problem, etc.
I wonder if he's serious or just trolling
If he his trolling, then what a huge waste of his life. There's a ton of productive things you can do besides making people upset on the internet.
he isnt even upsetting me im just disappointed in him for not realising his potential. but yeah he is trolling i dmed him about me helping him improve he just said its 6 am and after i messaged him again he just ignored me lol. or i forgot to message him again idk
BlueChinchompa
I dont really feel like hes trolling but at the same time I feel like he is.

Its really hard to tell.
Topic Starter
loserotaku

kujubuo wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

It's because he has this awful mindset about everything negative in osu. Genetics are everything, complains about not improving fast enough, always thinking he dosn't have a problem, etc.
I wonder if he's serious or just trolling
If he his trolling, then what a huge waste of his life. There's a ton of productive things you can do besides making people upset on the internet.
he isnt even upsetting me im just disappointed in him for not realising his potential. but yeah he is trolling i dmed him about me helping him improve he just said its 6 am and after i messaged him again he just ignored me lol. or i forgot to message him again idk
what potential?
Akisu

loserotaku wrote:

kujubuo wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

It's because he has this awful mindset about everything negative in osu. Genetics are everything, complains about not improving fast enough, always thinking he dosn't have a problem, etc.
I wonder if he's serious or just trolling
If he his trolling, then what a huge waste of his life. There's a ton of productive things you can do besides making people upset on the internet.
he isnt even upsetting me im just disappointed in him for not realising his potential. but yeah he is trolling i dmed him about me helping him improve he just said its 6 am and after i messaged him again he just ignored me lol. or i forgot to message him again idk
what potential?
I mean you have big goals getting 1K pp play and top 100 and also you are grinding the game yet you just troll people and complain like it is kinda fucking funny at this point how stupid you are you can’t be hard stuck at 450k you graph is literally going up you should just continue playing osu and do something better with your osu life
Stomiks

kujubuo wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

It's because he has this awful mindset about everything negative in osu. Genetics are everything, complains about not improving fast enough, always thinking he dosn't have a problem, etc.
I wonder if he's serious or just trolling
If he his trolling, then what a huge waste of his life. There's a ton of productive things you can do besides making people upset on the internet.

he isnt even upsetting me im just disappointed in him for not realising his potential. but yeah he is trolling i dmed him about me helping him improve he just said its 6 am and after i messaged him again he just ignored me lol. or i forgot to message him again idk
The guy is actually a mixed bag though. Last time I checked he was actually getting coached by a guy on our discord server but in the end it lookes like he nitpicked the advice he was given lmao.
anaxii

BlueChinchompa wrote:

I dont really feel like hes trolling but at the same time I feel like he is.

Its really hard to tell.
We're never sure with him.
__scripting

Stomiks wrote:

kujubuo wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

It's because he has this awful mindset about everything negative in osu. Genetics are everything, complains about not improving fast enough, always thinking he dosn't have a problem, etc.
I wonder if he's serious or just trolling
If he his trolling, then what a huge waste of his life. There's a ton of productive things you can do besides making people upset on the internet.

he isnt even upsetting me im just disappointed in him for not realising his potential. but yeah he is trolling i dmed him about me helping him improve he just said its 6 am and after i messaged him again he just ignored me lol. or i forgot to message him again idk
The guy is actually a mixed bag though. Last time I checked he was actually getting coached by a guy on our discord server but in the end it lookes like he nitpicked the advice he was given lmao.
nah this cant be true

i cant take anything he says seriously, but as already Chinchompa said, i want to at least try to help him everytime he appears in forums asking for improvement or crying about how bad he is, but at same time, feels like trolling
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