It'd be pretty useful to know the maximum score we can get on a map without opening it in test.
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Sometimes the highest difficulty level doesn't always give the most points, and for people who like to play for score this would be a nice feature
Sometimes the highest difficulty level doesn't always give the most points, and for people who like to play for score this would be a nice feature
I disagree with this, personally.
There is no reason to deliberately hide this information. I also agree that this information should be visible. The problem here of course is that spinners don't have a hard point cap, so you need to count the points for the spinners with some kind of an average high spin rate that players can do.
There is a spin rate cap, and that's achieved by Auto.
This isn't really realistic for a player as far as I know? Could've been changed though, but if not then it spins so much faster than any human that the difference in the max score calculated with that rate would be enormous compared to the actual possible max score.strager wrote:
There is a spin rate cap, and that's achieved by Auto.
Anyway, it's still one possibility to calculate it with the autoplay spin rate. Doesn't really matter that much on most maps and this feature is there to give a rough idea anyway.
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Well with mods the "maximum score" can be passed I guess.
I was assuming the number that would be shown is the same one that displays in test mode ?_?
So that would use Auto's 477 rpm spin speed to calculate that, no?
I was assuming the number that would be shown is the same one that displays in test mode ?_?
So that would use Auto's 477 rpm spin speed to calculate that, no?
It's not like a few thousand extra points from max spin spinners are going to screw up your thinking of what the max score for a map is.
Didn't we already have a thread for this?
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I disagree.
If there are no scores on that map yet, I look at the play length and do a rough calculation of the max score.
Let's just keep it simple...
If there are no scores on that map yet, I look at the play length and do a rough calculation of the max score.
Let's just keep it simple...
How is estimating based on length (which doesn't work because of relative break time etc.) more simple than displaying it?Gens wrote:
Let's just keep it simple...
That said, this requires server-side processing of score calculation, which isn't a simple feat. Low priority request which may get done in a year or whatnot (unless someone is offering to port ~1k lines to serverside php/.net code).
Why not the max score that auto can get for each beatmap?Gens wrote:
I disagree.
If there are no scores on that map yet, I look at the play length and do a rough calculation of the max score.
Let's just keep it simple...
It's simple and a decent estimate...
or whatever auto spin gets...idk
true. This can be helpful.
I always go to edit then test just to see the maximum score, ffs. >.>
I always go to edit then test just to see the maximum score, ffs. >.>
It can't just grab the same thing that test mode shows? I really don't know much about programming (yet) so this confuses me ._.;peppy wrote:
How is estimating based on length (which doesn't work because of relative break time etc.) more simple than displaying it?Gens wrote:
Let's just keep it simple...
That said, this requires server-side processing of score calculation, which isn't a simple feat. Low priority request which may get done in a year or whatnot (unless someone is offering to port ~1k lines to serverside php/.net code).
The web code is written mostly in PHP.Derekku Chan wrote:
It can't just grab the same thing that test mode shows? I really don't know much about programming (yet) so this confuses me ._.;peppy wrote:
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That said, this requires server-side processing of score calculation, which isn't a simple feat. Low priority request which may get done in a year or whatnot (unless someone is offering to port ~1k lines to serverside php/.net code).
osu! itself is written in C#.
The code to calculate the max score is in C#. It'd need to be ported or introp'd to PHP for it to be displayed on the site.
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Ugh, this is what I thought too. I don't think it's necessary to see this stat on the website at all, but in the game it seems very useful.Derekku Chan wrote:
I thought this request was to show the max score inside osu! when you're choosing a song. (Oops) But wouldn't it make more sense that one would want to see it there instead of having to check it online? :3
It's unnecessary detail in my opinon. Maybe because i've never played for score 
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anyway:
i think we can just look into score list. There's almost everything there.peppy wrote:
That said, this requires server-side processing of score calculation, which isn't a simple feat. Low priority request which may get done in a year or whatnot (unless someone is offering to port ~1k lines to serverside php/.net code).
It's more for new maps that have no scores/no S-ranks on them yet so people can figure out how much each diff is worthShaggoN wrote:
i think we can just look into score list. There's almost everything there.
For example, I usually play the hardest difficulty that I can fc without too much trouble, and then I can use the harder diffs as practice later using Spun Out
But say there's a map with a hard and an insane, I can fc the hard in 3 or 4 tries with great acc, but the insane might take me 50-60+ tries with just decent acc
If the insane was worth 10 mil and the hard only worth like 2 mil, I might be more willing to spend time fcing the insane, but if it was only like a 1 million point difference then it's not worth my time imo
I know not everyone plays for score but this would be pretty helpful for those that do, whether it's in-game or on the beatmap listing on the web site, so that we don't have to go into test mode for every difficulty to check how much each one is worth
I have thought about this myself, but the fact of recalculating everything every time you add notes to your editing beatmap, like peppy said, requires a lot of work.peppy wrote:
this requires server-side processing of score calculation, which isn't a simple feat. Low priority request which may get done in a year or whatnot (unless someone is offering to port ~1k lines to serverside php/.net code).
It would be nice to have this feature later on though.
EDIT: This feature IS for when editing inside osu!
That's not what he said. >_>Sir Minelli wrote:
I have thought about this myself, but the fact of recalculating everything every time you add notes to your editing beatmap, like peppy said, requires a lot of work.peppy wrote:
this requires server-side processing of score calculation, which isn't a simple feat. Low priority request which may get done in a year or whatnot (unless someone is offering to port ~1k lines to serverside php/.net code).
The human element in this process (the programming) "isn't a simple feat". The computer can take it no problem (hopefully).