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Quick question about what skillset this map falls under

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goose7849
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Joined January 2022
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goose7849
Hi, I've always had issues identifying what a map is considered, and by skillset I mean categories like tech, stream, burst, jump, finger control, etc. I've been trying to get better at it but I can't really tell what this one would be beatmapsets/413707#osu/1116405 .

It feels dumb to make a whole forum post for such a simple quick question but I tried asking in osu chat and unfortunately didnt get an answer. y'know how osu chat goes, sometimes people respond sometimes the message gets ignored.

Thanks in advance.
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii
Oh hey, I remember playing this map the last month! It looks like a generic map with symmetrical patterns in my opinion
Laskerf
102 posts
Joined March 2021
Laskerf
I think it's a "slow" alt map (NM3 slot in tournaments)! Like it's not quite high bpm enough to force you to alt, but the patterns look like they were made with full alt in mind (also singletapping 220 is a bit high for 4 stars). If it was like 260 bpm+ with the same patterns I think there would be no doubts.
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goose7849
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Joined January 2022
Topic Starter
goose7849
Ah okay that makes sense.

Thanks so much for the answer! I'm so happy I finally have the correct term. I've been saving mapsets of this style in a collection called click always for months since I just have never been able to figure out the actual correct term, changing it to "slow alt" finally feels like closure lmao.
ainkeK
299 posts
Joined September 2020
ainkeK
Singletappable aim alt. Too slow to be a "real" alt map, it is mapped with aim/jumps in mind instead.

Here are some other examples:
beatmapsets/1749750#osu/3580554
beatmapsets/727333#osu/1535588
beatmapsets/317538#osu/861971
goose7849
12 posts
Joined January 2022
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goose7849
Since this question is in the same vein as my original post I'm just gonna ask this here instead of making another separate one.

Based on my understanding burst and alt maps are the same thing, like the two terms are interchangeable, correct?
ainkeK
299 posts
Joined September 2020
ainkeK
A burst is simply a line of notes in quick succession, no matter the BPM, but is 8 or less notes as more than 8 notes would be considered a stream. 130 BPM bursts in alt maps could be considered bursts, but 270 BPM bursts in speed maps are also considered bursts as well.

An alt map is only a map where the 1/4th notes are mapped at 100-150 BPM.
goose7849
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Joined January 2022
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goose7849
Yeah I understand what a burst is. I've read the literal definitions of most of the terms, those definitions are what I use when I'm trying to properly identify the skillset a map would be considered. Sorry for phrasing that in a confusing way, let me clarify. What I was trying to say in my question was when burst or alt is used in the context of someone saying a mapset is a burst map or a mapset is a alt map, theres no difference between the two terms & both mean exactly the same thing, its just a matter of preference as to which one uses. I'm pretty sure that is the case but I just wanted to make sure.

Sorry for any confusion by the way I phrased it initially, I'm ass at talking and explaining things.
Laskerf
102 posts
Joined March 2021
Laskerf
when you hear "alt" map people mean: map with mostly flow aim patterns, really spaced "slow" streams (like 120-160 bpm stream with followpoints between circles, it's not hard to tap but it's hard to aim), really fast small jumps, lots of fast small sliders, not many pauses in the song (just put circle, sliderhead or sliderend every 1/4 beat). The biggest tell is the bpm, alt maps have bpm around 120-160 or double that.
Singletapping most patterns in an alt map is not supposed to be possible unless you're a woodpecker, you're most likely not fast enough for that.
Example: beatmapsets/41686#osu/131564

when you hear "burst" map people mean: any normal map with many bursts, usually faster to tap and less spaced than the alt map, you can probably singletap the rest of the map and alternate the bursts just fine. The map is probably in the range 160-230 bpm.

If you by any chance full alt any pattern no matter what, it's gonna be difficult to explain lol.
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AccountWontWork
2,023 posts
Joined March 2021
AccountWontWork
I've never encountered anyone who uses "alt" and "burst" interchangeably.

Alt maps and Burst maps are two different map types.


Alt maps are maps that generally use bpms between 120bpm-150bpm for notes/patterns and require players to play them with both fingers(alternating). That's why they are called Alt maps, because the player needs to be able to use the alternate tapping method.


Burst maps are maps that have burst through out the map, the burst in these maps are usually under 6 notes, meaning they are too short to be considered streams so they are instead called as Burst maps.


so no, alt and burst are 2 different things and they do not have the same meaning.
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