I'm moving to Korea and I need to get rid of my current ATX computer; which is huge and kind of overpowered. I'm looking to build this as a Mini-ITX computer with a AMD A10-7850k.

AMD-7850k
http://www.techpowerup.com/195320/amd-a ... ailed.html

Here's the part list
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2tZ61 need LP RAM and FM2+ socket type
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2u9JT Better SSD suggested
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2uavb

I'm just wonder how well this would perform under general use and osu!. I will no longer be able to stream osu! so I wont need as strong of a PC and I don't often play other games. I use a 144hz monitor so maintaining that smooth framerate on some games may be a problem. I don't know of anyone who uses any of the AMD APU, so I'm asking here. Any suggestions for replacing parts would be appreciated too.

I would also regret moving to this form of a computer because I wont be able to use G-sync, but oh well.

I'm not familiar with AMD APU performance, so I can't give any input on that. I want to guess you would be fine, but don't take my word for it.

I put together a few builds for you because I enjoy doing it. I tried to stay in your original budget as much as I could and played around with different ideas.

NOTE: None of these include an optical drive or operating system.


Build 1: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2u4GC
On this first build I followed your Mini-ITX choice. I've never picked out an ITX PC before, so that was a first.

Case: I don't trust any case in this price range, so I just went with what you had. The included PSU saved some money.
Motherboard: Gigabyte has a pretty good hold on the Z77 chipset. The Z77 chipset is ideal for overclocking, which I encourage with your cpu cooler.
RAM: RAM is RAM. I went with 1333 MHz RAM because 2133 MHz RAM does not provide much of a benefit over standard 1333 or 1600 clocked RAM during general use. It is usually only visible in benchmarks and other specific situations. It's pretty much just for bragging rights.
CPU: I went with Intel in this price range because Osu! is more CPU intensive than GPU. Unless you are playing high graphics games, from what I've read, a Core i5 will serve you well in all aspects. The i5 3570K is unlocked for overclocking.
CPU Cooler: The GeminII M4 had nice reviews and was still low-profile for the small case.
Storage: I'm impartial between SSD's and Hard Disks, so I just kept what you had.
Final Price: $565. $30 more than your original list. The SSD's price is slightly unstable and may raise soon.


Build 2: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2u4Hr
I looked around MicroATX options to see what there was.

Case: Rosewill is a nice company and the case had nice reviews. It did not come with a PSU.
Motherboard: Asus is good at what it does. I still went with the Z77 chipset for overclocking purposes. Not much else to say here.
RAM: Same as Build 1.
CPU: Same as Build 1.
CPU Cooler: Same as Build 1.
Storage: Same as Build 1.
PSU: This PSU has wonderful reviews and is more than enough to support your system. Should be very reliable.
Final Price: $575. $35 more than original list. You could easily drop the PSU and find a case with a PSU included to save some money, if you'd like. As with Build 1, the SSD's price is slightly unstable.


Build 3: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2u4kJ
I went with an AMD CPU and tried including a GPU.

Case: Same as Build 2
Motherboard: A cheap board. The price leaves room for a GPU. I do not suggest overclocking with this board, as it will probably turn out poorly.
RAM: Same as Build 2
CPU: The FX-6300 is very good for the cost at this price range.
CPU Cooler: Did not include one. This motherboard should not be used for overclocking if you don't like your computer catching on fire.
GPU (Video Card): A very decent video card will help with high graphics and general low-graphics usage like Osu! as well.
Storage: If you go with a GPU, it's common to download games that will use it. Those games take space. Space is what this hard drive has.
PSU: Same as Build 2
Final Price: $545. $5 more than the original. The HDD's price is pretty stable.


If you have any questions, feel free to ask them. I'd be happy to learn if I don't know.

The AMD 7850k is all around faster than that i5-3570k for less. APU require faster ram timing in order to work faster. Also the reason you say it doesn't require much is because that Intel CPU has a limit of 1600mhz for the RAM timing, and 1333MHZ is the lower end for it. I'm trying to avoid a discrete graphics card and I would like to go for the smallest build. I'm debating on using a smaller case than the one I picked out myself but I saw it came with the power supply and the case layout is nice. Thank you for offering the builds, but those are not what I'm looking for. I'm going for efficiency without going overboard.

CPU comparison
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-3 ... -A10-7850K

Memory Scaling
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mem ... ,3419.html

Intel Spec list for the i5-3570k which includes the memory types listed. The techpowerup link I gave earlier shows the memory type limit for the A10-3570k
http://ark.intel.com/products/65520

Edit:
I just realized I will have to use a low profile ram to fit the CPU cooler size. Also I should go with FM2+ instead of FM2. I was also recommended a better SSD.... Updated OP with new part list

Dexus wrote:

The AMD 7850k is all around faster than that i5-3570k for less. APU require faster ram timing in order to work faster. Also the reason you say it doesn't require much is because that Intel CPU has a limit of 1600mhz for the RAM timing, and 1333MHZ is the lower end for it.

Thanks for educating me I really didn't know much about the APU. I only knew the general idea of what it was supposed to do. The RAM timing wasn't something I was aware of, either. It was never mentioned in all of what I've read about it.

Dexus wrote:

I'm trying to avoid a discrete graphics card and I would like to go for the smallest build. I'm debating on using a smaller case than the one I picked out myself but I saw it came with the power supply and the case layout is nice. Thank you for offering the builds, but those are not what I'm looking for. I'm going for efficiency without going overboard.

I suppose I don't really know what your situation in Korea will be like. Anyway, I learned a lot from this.
I poked around and found a few cases that have been reviewed in different lists in case you haven't seen them.
Antec ISK 310-150
M350 Enclosure

Thanks for teaching me and good luck on your move!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ulbJ how about this? No G-Sync but there's still Mantle and a more mature catalyst driver.

Claximillions wrote:

Antec ISK 310-150
M350 Enclosure

Thanks for teaching me and good luck on your move!

The second one uses a pico psu, that's really worrying. Thanks for the suggestions and thanks for the luck!
I found this case and I'm probably going to use it
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Powercool-2020C ... B008XI7F2C

SigLogicalMaxiss wrote:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ulbJ how about this? No G-Sync but there's still Mantle and a more mature catalyst driver.

That CPU fan wouldn't fit with the RAM if I'm not mistaken. Just checked other builds and it looks like it fit the ram.
Found this case in the process
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 38566&SID=
I may actually remake the build using this case and my current GTX 780 if it fits. Looking it up at the moment... I could always go to a smaller GTX graphics card that would still fit and run with g-sync.
To be honest I followed the design and parts of the steam box, without using a full graphics card. I would recreate one in a heartbeat if I could find a case that supported a riser the way the steam box has it.
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/17318 ... -gaming-pc

What kind of general use are you talking about? If it's for everyday stuff like browsing and light gaming, I don't think the new kaveri's gonna be necessary. You'd be good enough with 5800k since it's cheaper, but if you're willing to spend a few more bucks, take the 6800k. There's no need for additional cooler since the stock one is suitable enough. It's better to go with mATX instead of mini-ITX. Storage is up to you, but I recommend HyperX 3K. I've got this build for now, it should do
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2uQXh

Case is up to you.

*don't cheap out on the PSU or else your precious baby's gonna pop like my friend's

Dexus wrote:

To be honest I followed the design and parts of the steam box, without using a full graphics card. I would recreate one in a heartbeat if I could find a case that supported a riser the way the steam box has it.
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/17318 ... -gaming-pc

The Sliverstone RVZ01 pretty much follows everything of a steam box but it's not available yet, That ML02B however won't fit a normal GPU since the GPU use a normal profile expansion slot while the case use a low profile expansion slot