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[4K] 1K3's NM/M4M Modding Queue [CLOSED]

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1K3
1K3's 4K NM Modding Queue
~ CLOSED ~

I'm mostly doing this to find more cool maps to play and modding comes second to that.

The speed at which I mod depends on how much time I have, but I'll try to get to accepted maps as quickly as I can. (Also I'm completely new to modding lmao)

READ THE FULL POST BEFORE REQUESTING

For M4M Requests
Here is my beatmap to mod.
(This is also a pretty good indication of the kind of maps I want to mod)

Wait until I accept/reject your request before you start modding, and then I'll mod your map once you're done.

I will most likely accept your request if it's M4M regardless of my preferences, as long as the map still vaguely follows what I like.

Thanks :)

Request Format:
NM/M4M:
Artist - Title:
Link:
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one):
Star Rating:
Length:
Any notes about the map (entice me):

Preferences
  1. Full flavour maps that incorporate many different mapping styles
  2. Marathon maps (I prefer 5 mins up to around 10 mins, although anything roughly over 4 minutes is fine)
  3. Sets with only one difficulty
  4. 5* or higher SR (If its 4* but plays like a 5* that's fine too)
  5. I can go up to around 7* but only LN/Tech orientated maps like the following:

  1. I will mod any SR for SV heavy maps
  2. I would rather you already have some mods on your beatmap just to make things easier for me
  3. I prefer rythgamecore music like Camellia, Reek, Kobaryo but anything electronic is fine (Artists like this that I've probably never heard of are a bonus)
  4. Tech, Hybrid and LNs are all good
  5. I'm not a big fan of rice orientated maps (especially harder ones as I can't really play them)
  6. Give me something challenging, I like maps underrated by the current SR system
Check my recently liked beatmaps if you want a clear indication of roughly what I'm looking for

Rules
  1. 4K Only
  2. Not gonna take anime song maps
  3. I'll only mod one difficulty so specify which diff if your map has more than one
  4. Finished maps in the pending state only and actively going for ranked
  5. I will not mod hitsounds (I don't play with them)
Additional Info:
Let me know if you just want my opinion on the map rather than modding because I am much more likely to do so and will be more lenient with my preferences if this is the case.

I'm going to cherry-pick which maps I mod, but if I like the map but don't feel I'm qualified to mod it I'll give it a hype :)

Don't let the preferences scare you away as they are only preferences, but know that I am unlikely to mod if the map doesn't broadly follow these preferences.

Just to make sure you've realllllly read all this (sorry), tell me your favourite animal in the notes section of the request.

I'm probably gonna periodically open and close this when I have time and my preferences and rules and stuff are subject to change,
show me something good owo)b

~ OPEN ~ ~ CLOSED ~
Winkwing
Artist - Title: Winkwing - Raging Storm
Link: beatmapsets/1985126#mania/4123136
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): easy, normal, hard
Star Rating: 1.58, 1.89, 2.78
Length: 3:59
Any notes about the map (entice me): funny 3/4 waltz rhythm, also, it's a track made by me.
wintibear
Artist - Title: Pedro Silva - OMORI OST - 108 Squall
Link: beatmapsets/1985331#mania/4123770
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one):
Star Rating: 1.70
Length: 1:23
Any notes about the map (entice me): My first beatmap! It's shield-heavy, and it's straightforward and easy because it's meant to be something that I can at least play well (I'm not good)

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't modding and feedback the same thing? IDK, I'm new to requesting mods so..
Topic Starter
1K3

wintibear wrote:

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't modding and feedback the same thing? IDK, I'm new to requesting mods so..
Yeah you’re kind of right, I’ve made it clearer what I meant in the original post, thanks :)
Donpa-chan
Hi

NM Request Please

Artist - Title: Getsuryu - MOONLiGHT
Link: beatmapsets/1985155#mania/4123269
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): Top Diff
Star Rating: 4.84
Length: 1:56
Any notes about the map (entice me): Spicy Noodles is my favourite food

Thank you very much
Zan-
Artist - Title: xi - MEGALODON
Link: s/1845627
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): AQUAMARINE (Top diff)
Star Rating: 6.22*
Length: 2:06
Any notes about the map (entice me): i think this map has challenging jacks so i need more opinion about that nad my fav food is any kind of fried rice :D
Topic Starter
1K3

Winkwing wrote:

Artist - Title: Winkwing - Raging Storm
Link: beatmapsets/1985126#mania/4123136
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): easy, normal, hard
Star Rating: 1.58, 1.89, 2.78
Length: 3:59
Any notes about the map (entice me): funny 3/4 waltz rhythm, also, it's a track made by me.
Rejected (Doesn't follow the rules of the post}. It's cool that you made the song.

wintibear wrote:

Artist - Title: Pedro Silva - OMORI OST - 108 Squall
Link: beatmapsets/1985331#mania/4123770
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one):
Star Rating: 1.70
Length: 1:23
Any notes about the map (entice me): My first beatmap! It's shield-heavy, and it's straightforward and easy because it's meant to be something that I can at least play well (I'm not good)

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't modding and feedback the same thing? IDK, I'm new to requesting mods so..
Rejected (Doesn't follow the rules of the post). Good luck finding other modders though.


Furr H wrote:

Hi

NM Request Please

Artist - Title: Getsuryu - MOONLiGHT
Link: beatmapsets/1985155#mania/4123269
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): Top Diff
Star Rating: 4.84
Length: 1:56
Any notes about the map (entice me): Spicy Noodles is my favourite food

Thank you very much
Rejected. There's nothing inherently wrong with the map but it's a bit plain for my tastes.


Zan- wrote:

Artist - Title: xi - MEGALODON
Link: s/1845627
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): AQUAMARINE (Top diff)
Star Rating: 6.22*
Length: 2:06
Any notes about the map (entice me): i think this map has challenging jacks so i need more opinion about that nad my fav food is any kind of fried rice :D
Accepted, I'll see what I can do :)
ML-ysg
Artist - Title:Kaneko Chiharu - INF-BL-aste-R
Link: beatmapsets/1934192#mania/3996857
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): any u like
Star Rating:1.5-5.15
Length:1:52
Any notes about the map (entice me): song from SDVX

thanks!
AverageBoi
Artist - Title: meganeko x Shirobon - Mind/ /Pulse
Link: beatmapsets/1830086#mania/3756090
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one):
Star Rating: 4.69*
Length: 4:25
Any notes about the map (entice me): Heavy SV usage revolving around jacks and hybrid
I know that I have done much with other mods to this map, but I would just like more feedback to it
Also my favorite food is chicken parmesan
EdgyKing
Artist - Title: Laur - SYSTEM ERROR
Link: beatmapsets/1956623#mania/4053287
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one):
Star Rating: 8.28* (may be a bit lower or higher, everytime I change the map the sr fluctuates a lot)
Length:4:53
Any notes about the map (entice me): The SR says a lot about society. Ok but now talking about the map: Hybrid/LN tech madness. I've used all snaps in this map to spice it up a little bit, and there some rice sections as well to challenge all type of players. Actual 8* map, although it have some funny™ patterns
Topic Starter
1K3

ML-ysg wrote:

Artist - Title:Kaneko Chiharu - INF-BL-aste-R
Link: beatmapsets/1934192#mania/3996857
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): any u like
Star Rating:1.5-5.15
Length:1:52
Any notes about the map (entice me): song from SDVX

thanks!
Rejected (Doesn't follow rules of the post).

AverageBoi wrote:

Artist - Title: meganeko x Shirobon - Mind/ /Pulse
Link: beatmapsets/1830086#mania/3756090
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one):
Star Rating: 4.69*
Length: 4:25
Any notes about the map (entice me): Heavy SV usage revolving around jacks and hybrid
I know that I have done much with other mods to this map, but I would just like more feedback to it
Also my favorite food is chicken parmesan
Accepted. I'll give this a go. There's a couple of SV changes and mapping changes I could think of suggesting on first play through so I'll see if i can spot anything else as well.

EdgyKing wrote:

Artist - Title: Laur - SYSTEM ERROR
Link: beatmapsets/1956623#mania/4053287
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one):
Star Rating: 8.28* (may be a bit lower or higher, everytime I change the map the sr fluctuates a lot)
Length:4:53
Any notes about the map (entice me): The SR says a lot about society. Ok but now talking about the map: Hybrid/LN tech madness. I've used all snaps in this map to spice it up a little bit, and there some rice sections as well to challenge all type of players. Actual 8* map, although it have some funny™ patterns
Semi-Rejected? (Doesn't follow the rules of the post and also a bit above my skill level) It would be cool to see this ranked though so i'll consider checking consistency and stuff at some point.


GONNA LEAVE QUEUE OPEN FOR ABOUT A WEEK FROM THIS POINT.

I'll close queue after a week and sort through to find a couple more beatmaps to mod.
aether-
Artist - Title: Schwank - OPEN YOUR 3RD EYE
Link: beatmapsets/1987288#mania/4128090
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one):
Star Rating: 6.62 web 7.08 local
Length: 3 minutes
Any notes about the map (entice me): hybrid ln
Polarin
Artist - Title: Akiri - Star Drain
Link: beatmapsets/1976493#mania/4102563
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): pref insane/top diff but u can choose whatever
Star Rating: 5.07*
Length: 1:52
Any notes about the map (entice me): dumpstream/speedjack map that utilizes a lot of constant flow to convey an energetic feeling throughout the chart while still trying to keep the map relatively comfortable with minimal usage of anchors and extended trills

ty!!
snomi
Artist - Title: Tanger - PP BREAKER
Link: beatmapsets/1968214
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): NOW CUT IN ANY DIRECTION
Star Rating: 6.74
Length: 3:32
Any notes about the map (entice me): ITS A FULL FLAVOUR MAP!!!! we got rice, ln, and hybrid mapping. it also has some jack sections, stamina sections, and tech sections too!! this map goes hard i swear
-Myoui-
Artist - Title: REIRIE - Rabbits
Link:
beatmapsets/1986125#mania/4125601
Which diff: insane or extra
Star Rating: 6.28
Lenght: 2:57

Thanks!!
Xzzj
hi

Artist - Title: Halozy feat. ななひら - 物凄いライヴでチルノがそこはかとなく物凄いうた
Link: beatmapsets/1942061
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): single diff
Star Rating: 5.72*
Length: 5:00 (drain time is 4:13)
Any notes about the map (entice me): single diff marathon with a lot of LNs and SV

my favourite food: LNs maybe noodles

Thanks in advance!
paperpull
Artist - Title: Dragonforce - My Heart Will Go On
Link: beatmapsets/1905605#mania/3930227
Which diff : mod any diff that you want.
Star Rating: 4,46*; 5,23*;
Length: 3:15
Any notes about the map (entice me): 200bpm, stream, stamina, metal.

hype it if you liked it, that would help me a lot.
Topic Starter
1K3

Xzzj wrote:

hi

Artist - Title: Halozy feat. ななひら - 物凄いライヴでチルノがそこはかとなく物凄いうた
Link: beatmapsets/1942061
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): single diff
Star Rating: 5.72*
Length: 5:00 (drain time is 4:13)
Any notes about the map (entice me): single diff marathon with a lot of LNs and SV

my favourite food: LNs maybe noodles

Thanks in advance!
Only accepting this request because they were the only one that told me their favourite food :(

I'll give some my brief opinion on the rest of the maps tho:
  1. Not a big fan of the mapping style in aether-'s request
  2. Polarin's request is actually quite fun but too ricey for me, would benefit from some LNs for diversity
  3. snomi's request is ok but i disagree with how a lot of the patterns are mapped, the LNs in the kiai sections are mapped kind of weirdly and don't fit in
  4. -Myoui-'s request is fun but that LN section in the extra diff is very overmapped and feels quite out of place compared with the rest of the map which is mapped pretty reasonably
  5. Not really interested in the song of paperpull's request
Closing queue for now, i'll open up again soon when i have more time on my hands.
Topic Starter
1K3
Got some more time, so re-opening the queue :)
[TCD] duyet299
NM/M4M: NM. I can M4M if you are really desperate
Artist - Title: S3RL - I'll See You Again (feat. Chi Chi)
Link: beatmapsets/2013638#mania/4190403
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): Insane
Star Rating: 4.36
Length: 3:40
Any notes about the map (entice me): This is a hybrid LN-oriented map mixing with chords which focuses on vocal and synth, has lots of grace + some SVs (hopefully something you might like). Don't be fooled by the SR; even with percy and lower OD than usual, it might be hard to get good accuracy. Sorry for WIP because I wanted to make a spread, but I need some mods for my top diff to know if I was going on the right track. Got some general feedback from Ryax through discord :d

I love cats
Xinhong1003
NM/M4M:NM
Artist - Title:Maoki Yamamoto - GEOMETRIC DANCE (Long Ver.)
Link: beatmapsets/2003769#mania/4166948
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): only one diff
Star Rating: 5.05
Length: 5:35
Any notes about the map (entice me): hybrid, some obvious guitar sounds are deliberately omitted

thx:333
Pyra-san
NM/M4M: NM
Artist - Title: *namirin - Senaka Awase no Sora
Link: beatmapsets/2001791#mania/4162609
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): 1 diff mapset
Star Rating: 4.43
Length: 3:50
Any notes about the map (entice me): hybrid map with a touch of SVs, need to check for consistency and SV usage. My fav animal ofc is... Catssssss

Thank You and Goodluck
newbandpro
NM/M4M: NM
Artist - Title: Celldweller - Lost In Time
Link: beatmapsets/1991630#mania/4138105
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one):
Star Rating: 4.33*
Length: 06:19
Any notes about the map (entice me): Mostly a jack map with a few LN sections as well.

(I also like dogs)
WSSCJ 503
NM/M4M: N4M
Artist - Title: Saradik - 222 - wewewe
Link:
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): Hard and Wewewe
Star Rating: 2.55* and 3.30*
Length: 0:48
Any notes about the map (entice me): Modifications so that in the future it can be ranked and the genre is happycore/hardcore
Ssandi NImo
hi~
NM/M4M:NM
Artist - Title:TeddyLoid feat. DELTA - Defection
[url]Link:https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/1850548#mania/3962684[/url]
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one):any diff
Star Rating:4.23
Length:2:27
Any notes about the map (entice me): top diff with LN pattern and sv。(If you're interested,low diff need help
hpoe you like it,thanks~
Salty Mermaid
yo

NM/M4M: NM
Artist - Title: Yuyoyuppe feat. Natsuiro Karin | SICK -Yanderu EP-
Link: beatmapsets/1996989#mania/4150526
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): bruh
Star Rating: 5.37
Length: 15:58
Any notes about the map (entice me): Yeah so it's 5 songs in one map. The mapping style varies from a song to another, but it's not too crazy. Star rating is at 5.37, but only the two first songs are actually rated over 5*. And uuh, dunno how to make it sound enticing so I'll leave it at that xd. And cats.

Alright, thanks and have a nice day
Zonifyy
NM/M4M: NM
Artist - Title: xi - White Peak
Link: beatmapsets/2013471#mania/4190771
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): One diff
Star Rating: 5.58
Length: 4:04
Any notes about the map (entice me): A hybrid 191bpm 4k map with JS/HS patterns throughout the map, pretty much all I can say about that.

Thanks in advance.
Angki
NM/M4M: NM
Artist - Title: DJ Genki vs. Gram - Einherjar Joker
Link: beatmapsets/1128003#mania/2356493
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): any
Star Rating: 1.30* - 6.09*
Length: 2:14
Any notes about the map (entice me): its LN map

thankss!
Topic Starter
1K3

duyet299 wrote:

NM/M4M: NM. I can M4M if you are really desperate
Artist - Title: S3RL - I'll See You Again (feat. Chi Chi)
Link: beatmapsets/2013638#mania/4190403
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): Insane
Star Rating: 4.36
Length: 3:40
Any notes about the map (entice me): This is a hybrid LN-oriented map mixing with chords which focuses on vocal and synth, has lots of grace + some SVs (hopefully something you might like). Don't be fooled by the SR; even with percy and lower OD than usual, it might be hard to get good accuracy. Sorry for WIP because I wanted to make a spread, but I need some mods for my top diff to know if I was going on the right track. Got some general feedback from Ryax through discord :d

I love cats
Already completed this request but i'm listing it as accepted here. I like the unique mapping style :3


Salty Mermaid wrote:

yo

NM/M4M: NM
Artist - Title: Yuyoyuppe feat. Natsuiro Karin | SICK -Yanderu EP-
Link: beatmapsets/1996989#mania/4150526
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): bruh
Star Rating: 5.37
Length: 15:58
Any notes about the map (entice me): Yeah so it's 5 songs in one map. The mapping style varies from a song to another, but it's not too crazy. Star rating is at 5.37, but only the two first songs are actually rated over 5*. And uuh, dunno how to make it sound enticing so I'll leave it at that xd. And cats.

Alright, thanks and have a nice day
Accepting this request as well. Seems pretty well crafted and longer maps are hard to get mods on so accepted. Might be a bit longer getting to this one cause of its length.


Rejecting the others for now but feel free to DM if you want a more detailed reason for rejection/my opinion on the map.

Modding queue is still open so feel free to re-request a different map if you did get rejected
ExPLOiX
Hello

NM Req
Artist - Title: danretsu - Spider Lily (Breakcore)
Link: beatmapsets/2014516#mania/4192372
Single Diff
Star Rating: 5.18*
Length: 5:00
Notes: Hybrid Tech & Dump type of beatmap. Difficulty increases as song progresses.
The most experimental thing I made yet.

No Hitsounds

Favourite Animal: Arctic Fox
1145810
NM/M4M:NM
Artist - Title:Normal1zer vs. Broken Nerdz-DESTRUCTION 3,2,1
Link:beatmapsets/2014669#mania/4192908
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one):DEVASTATION
Star Rating:9.26 (it exaggerated by lots of ln)
Length:2:32
Any notes about the map (entice me):jack and some dump ln
Skibidi Toilet
NM/M4M: nm
Artist - Title: Camellia - FINAL BLENDERMAN APPEARED. (feat. RichaadEB)
Link: https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/2019520#mania/4205661
Star Rating: 7.85
Length: 4:35
Any notes about the map (entice me): ln focused map, and also the song is an absolute banger 🔥🔥

thanks!
Slick6969
yo yo

NM/M4M: M4M
Artist - Title: ReeK - Weeaboo Spookfest II - Necro-Degeneracy
Link: beatmapsets/2011901#mania/4186518
Star Rating: 7.74*
Length: 6:39
Any notes about the map (entice me): mix of straightforward and tech/dump mapping, even mix of rice and LN, mild sv, no hitsounds, decent amount of genres in the song (thanks reek for being a memelord), PM me if you accept/decline, cats
Xinhong1003
NM/M4M: NM
Artist - Title: James Landino X Akira Complex - Hydra
Link: beatmapsets/2017080#mania/4199402
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): Glitch
Star Rating: 4.59
Length: 2:25
Any notes about the map (entice me): hybrid

thx:333
Ryu Sei
NM/M4M: NM
Artist - Title: onoken - Last | Moment
Link: beatmapsets/1847292
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): Beyond
Star Rating: 3.77
Length: 2:25
Any notes about the map (entice me): Simple jumpstream map with artcore genre

Thanks!
My Angel Chen
NM/M4M:NM
Artist - Title:ICDD - misogiharae no kamiumi wa notamai magabarai no shokuzai wa chikau
Link:https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/2018028#mania/4202073
Star Rating:6.31
Length: 08.04
Any notes about the map (entice me):It's an ICDD map :]
etz
NM
Astrophysics - Kawaii Razor Blades
beatmapsets/2020347#mania/4207525
SR: 4.9
Length: 5:17
Some trills, some tech, some uncomfortable patterns
Preferrably modding if possible, opinion if you can't

My favorite animals are cats :)
DC2_727
NM/M4M: NM
Xyris - Title: Eviternity (Rhea's "Construction Site" Remix)
Link: beatmapsets/1984540#mania/4194729
Star Rating: 6.15
Length: 3:24
Any notes about the map (entice me): 300 bpm speedcore, majorly speedjack and jumptrills and short LN
-MysticEyes
Heya!

NM
Artist - Title: Kanzaki Shion - Palette Lab(Extended)
Link: beatmapsets/2019770#mania/4206228
Star Rating: 4.42
Length: 3:52
Any notes about the map: So it is almost fully rice, BUT it is a pretty experimental tech map with some fun vocal dump bits too, and an awesome little jack section where the preview point is. It's a decent bit harder than the SR suggests too with pretty unorthodox patterns for a potential ranked map. Any feedback would be appreciated! Also I adore cats. Rabbits and moths too but especially cats.

Thank you for your time!
chy030_ft_pH5_6
hi!
NM/M4M: NM
Xyris - Title: Σvreka
Link: beatmapsets/2014921#mania/4193515
Star Rating: 6.5
Length: 5:33
Any notes about the map (entice me): Full flavour maps, with tech hb & ln. TB style, but it is much simpler than the sr. When I was making it, I mainly considered the fluency, hoping to get some suggestions on the overall design.
AverageBoi
NM/M4M: NM
Artist - Title: Xtrullor - Corrosive
Link: beatmapsets/2020372#mania/4207555
Which diff (Ignore this if there is only one): *ignores*
Star Rating: 6.31*
Length: 4:29
Any notes about the map (entice me): Very intense tech/dump map with a side of chordjacks, jumpstreams, and SVs (not a lot tho). Inspired by a few loved maps [also my favorite animals are otters, cats, and rabbits!]
Zalenitte
NM pls
Artist - Title: Akira Complex - Galactic Warzone
Link: beatmapsets/2011073#mania/4184765
Which diff: Insane - top diff
Star Rating: 4.9*
Length: 2:12
Any notes about the map (entice me): Boss song composed for the rhythm game Rotaeno, very "rhythm game" sounding. Hybrid tech map with jacks and chordstreams together, leans more towards the rice side though. (favourite animal is rabbits)
Topic Starter
1K3

Slick6969 wrote:

yo yo

NM/M4M: M4M
Artist - Title: ReeK - Weeaboo Spookfest II - Necro-Degeneracy
Link: beatmapsets/2011901#mania/4186518
Star Rating: 7.74*
Length: 6:39
Any notes about the map (entice me): mix of straightforward and tech/dump mapping, even mix of rice and LN, mild sv, no hitsounds, decent amount of genres in the song (thanks reek for being a memelord), PM me if you accept/decline, cats
Accepting this request


-MysticEyes wrote:

Heya!

NM
Artist - Title: Kanzaki Shion - Palette Lab(Extended)
Link: beatmapsets/2019770#mania/4206228
Star Rating: 4.42
Length: 3:52
Any notes about the map: So it is almost fully rice, BUT it is a pretty experimental tech map with some fun vocal dump bits too, and an awesome little jack section where the preview point is. It's a decent bit harder than the SR suggests too with pretty unorthodox patterns for a potential ranked map. Any feedback would be appreciated! Also I adore cats. Rabbits and moths too but especially cats.

Thank you for your time!
Accepting this as well (Least I can do after all the modding you did on my map a bit ago lmao)


chy030_ft_pH5_6 wrote:

hi!
NM/M4M: NM
Xyris - Title: Σvreka
Link: beatmapsets/2014921#mania/4193515
Star Rating: 6.5
Length: 5:33
Any notes about the map (entice me): Full flavour maps, with tech hb & ln. TB style, but it is much simpler than the sr. When I was making it, I mainly considered the fluency, hoping to get some suggestions on the overall design.
Very fun map and good song but some parts could do with some work imo

Rejecting the other maps for various different reasons (PM me if you want me to be more specific).

I'm closing queue for now till i finish these up then I'll reopen :3
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